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Old 27th February 2019, 03:05 PM   #241
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You can not second guess a narcissist. I believe Trump is more then capable of violence.
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Old 27th February 2019, 03:05 PM   #242
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Originally Posted by Steve View Post
Non-sequitur response in 3,2.1....
Oh, and we know its a-comin.

But at least we can move on to discussing the content instead of listenkng to feeble attempts to wholesale dismiss every word
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Old 27th February 2019, 03:06 PM   #243
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Context my friend. Quote my complete statement or quote nothing. Respond to my complete statement or keep quiet.
LOLZ! Oh mercy, that was funny!

you fellas are slaying me.
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Old 27th February 2019, 03:08 PM   #244
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Originally Posted by Thermal View Post
Here, I'll throw the bone:

Yes, Cohen is a liar.

Happy now?

Now let's have a fun test, and determine who has not
determine who has not... lied to Congress?
Admitted to lying to Congress?
Pled guilty of lying to Congress?
Got convicted of lying to Congress?
Is going to jail for lying to Congress?

I know, I know!

Michael Cohen!
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Old 27th February 2019, 03:08 PM   #245
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LOLZ! Oh mercy, that was funny!

you fellas are slaying me.
Sorry Thermal. I got the non-sequitur response first.
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Old 27th February 2019, 03:09 PM   #246
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Important note, again: the lie Cohen pleaded guilty to telling was that Trump did nothing wrong.

If Cohen lies during today's testimony he will be in violation of his plea agreement.
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Old 27th February 2019, 03:09 PM   #247
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I just find it hysterical that those screaming the most about Cohen being a liar are the most rabid supporters of a president infamous for his pathological lying.
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Old 27th February 2019, 03:09 PM   #248
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Originally Posted by The Big Dog View Post
Say, thanks for your really important thoughts, that manage to both ignore the post to which I was replying AND totally evade the question.

cool cool.

I take it you are unfamiliar with Cohen's plea deal?

cool cool.

I will put you down for ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ .
You can put me down for "Both" and also "Depends".
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Old 27th February 2019, 03:09 PM   #249
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Possible Collaterial Damage:
Roger Stone tweeting a angry response to what Cohen had to say about him in the testimony.
This might be a violation of the gag rule imposed on Stone.
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Old 27th February 2019, 03:12 PM   #250
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Other hilarious things that actual admitted congressional Grifter Michael Cohen is responsible for???

Quote:
Women for Cohen --Women who love and support Michael Cohen. Strong, pit bull, sex symbol, no nonsense, business oriented, and ready to make a difference!
https://twitter.com/WomenForCohen

have the laughing dogs bathed and sent to Michael cohen's room.
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Old 27th February 2019, 03:13 PM   #251
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Originally Posted by Thermal View Post
Here, I'll throw the bone:

Yes, Cohen is a liar.

Happy now?

Now let's have a fun test, and determine who has not
If Cohen is a liar, then we are ALL LIARS. Are we not? Who amongst us has never told a lie?

The question is, who is lying now?

It should be noted that Cohen is testifying under oath and can face additional prison time for lying to Congress today. He knows very well the ramifications for lying to Congress as he will begin serving time next month for lying to Congress. So is he really likely to be lying now?

Consider that no one else talking about the events today faces the same consequences. Certainly not the President who thinks truth is irrelevant to whatever he says. It's also ironic and sad that Don Jr. Is commenting from the cheap seats as he too lied to Congress. But let's face it, is not likely to be prosecuted for his offense. At least not for this offense.
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Old 27th February 2019, 03:13 PM   #252
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Sorry Thermal. I got the non-sequitur response first.
But I got the utterly nonsensical first!

Well, first on this page...

We, first on this topic...

Well...
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Old 27th February 2019, 03:14 PM   #253
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Originally Posted by The Big Dog View Post
Other hilarious things that actual admitted congressional Grifter Michael Cohen is responsible for???



https://twitter.com/WomenForCohen

have the laughing dogs bathed and sent to Michael cohen's room.
Relevance to........anything?
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Old 27th February 2019, 03:16 PM   #254
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Originally Posted by acbytesla View Post
If Cohen is a liar, then we are ALL LIARS. Are we not? Who amongst us has never told a lie?

The question is, who is lying now?

It should be noted that Cohen is testifying under oath and can face additional prison time for lying to Congress today. He knows very well the ramifications for lying to Congress as he will begin serving time next month for lying to Congress. So is he really likely to be lying now?

Consider that no one else talking about the events today faces the same consequences. Certainly not the President who thinks truth is irrelevant to whatever he says. It's also ironic and sad that Don Jr. Is commenting from the cheap seats as he too lied to Congress. But let's face it, is not likely to be prosecuted for his offense. At least not for this offense.
Yep. People lie. People come clean. A good barometer is whether or not they stand to gain from it. Cohen does not appear to be gaining much, save a little self respect
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Old 27th February 2019, 03:17 PM   #255
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Uh huh, except the whole tax fraud from 2012-2016 that implicates his wife as well, and caused him to go into full sniveling rat mode to cover up their crimes.
Virtually by definition, a rat's inner-circle consists of rats. This should come as no surprise whatsoever to any prosecutor who has ever gone after the mob.

It's surreal and bleakly hilarious that all the pearl-clutching about Cohen's past lies is in defense of the world class liar of all ******* time.
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Old 27th February 2019, 03:18 PM   #256
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Relevance to........anything?
That CongressGrifter Michael Cohen himself set up that fake account filled with lies.
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Old 27th February 2019, 03:19 PM   #257
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What makes you think his claims haven't ALREADY been investigated? I'd bet money he has told the SCO, the SDNY and NYAG all of this.

And while I think it's possible Cohen is lying before Congress today, I don't think it is likely. And you just nailed the reason. Lying to Congress at this point could easily add more prison time. And trust me, Cohen of all people knows this.
Further, the SCO and SDNY will KNOW if anything he says is a lie.


* * * * *

I have to say that the purchase of extra bags of popcorn, and getting up at 4am to watch this has been worth every penny and every minute spent. Watching some of the GOP members' heads exploding in fits of red-faced, spittle-filled fake outrage has been truly, truly entertaining.
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Old 27th February 2019, 03:20 PM   #258
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You understand that i have already expertly and with actual legal citations nuked that false comment from orbit, right?
No you have not.
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I wish I could be a fly on the wall witnessing Trump watching Cohen's testimony.
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Virtually by definition, a rat's inner-circle consists of rats. This should come as no surprise whatsoever to any prosecutor who has ever gone after the mob.

.

Or anybody who has seen a Marty Scorsese Mafia movie.
Or a season of the Sopranos...
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Fextra bags of popcorn, and getting up at 4am to watch this has been worth every penny and every minute spent. Watching some of the GOP members' heads exploding in fits of red-faced, spittle-filled fake outrage has been truly, truly entertaining.
Kinda like me and this thread, Watching some of the Leftists' heads exploding in fits of red-faced, spittle-filled real outrage has been truly, truly entertaining, indeed.
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Important note, again: the lie Cohen pleaded guilty to telling was that Trump did nothing wrong.
Yes, that is important to note. Again and again. Maybe it should be posted every time someone calls Cohen a liar, just for balance. Should we warn icerat?
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That CongressGrifter Michael Cohen himself set up that fake account filled with lies.
Ok, no relevance. Thanks.
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Old 27th February 2019, 03:26 PM   #264
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determine who has not... lied to Congress?
Admitted to lying to Congress?
Pled guilty of lying to Congress?
Got convicted of lying to Congress?
Is going to jail for lying to Congress?

I know, I know!

Michael Cohen!
AND PAY NO ATTENTION TO THE LIES COMING FROM THE WHITE HOUSE!
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Old 27th February 2019, 03:29 PM   #265
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Further, the SCO and SDNY will KNOW if anything he says is a lie.

* * * * *

I have to say that the purchase of extra bags of popcorn, and getting up at 4am to watch this has been worth every penny and every minute spent. Watching some of the GOP members' heads exploding in fits of red-faced, spittle-filled fake outrage has been truly, truly entertaining.
I really wonder just how many of those GOP members actually disbelieve what Cohen said today? My guess is it is some number between ZERO and NONE. Hell, I don't think even The Big Dog thinks Cohen is lying. He, like those GOP members are simply trying to discredit the messenger.
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You can not second guess a narcissist. I believe Trump is more then capable of violence.
Yeah, this Narcissist is not capable of personal violence is a lot of crap.
In fact, Narcissm is a common trait among mass muderers and serial killers.
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Ok, no relevance. Thanks.
Oh dear, the relevance is that the leftists' newest and bestest buddy Michael cohen is congenital liar of Hillarian Proportions.
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At this point a good attorney would go "yes, the President is a liar and a sleazeball; let's talk about how much physical evidence you got to back up your case that he commited actual serious crimes worthy of impeachment".
But although no doubt a number of the GOP ers are attorneys. they are not good ones.
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Yes, that is important to note. Again and again. Maybe it should be posted every time someone calls Cohen a liar, just for balance. Should we warn icerat?
Hi Dr. keith. This statement:

"The lie Cohen pleaded guilty to telling was that Trump did nothing wrong."

Is not accurate. Not at all. Cohen lied to Congress about the details of an otherwise totally legal project.

the lies were the crimes, not anything Trump did.

I linked the information earlier in the thread. If you need me to walk you through it, you just let The Big Dog know.
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Yep. People lie. People come clean. A good barometer is whether or not they stand to gain from it. Cohen does not appear to be gaining much, save a little self respect
I would have thought that to sell a book and to become a tv pundit in the future he would need to be truthful and credible now. Also I get the impression that he wouldn't want to let down his family again.

I wish the questioning had been more focussed but I thought Ocasia-Cortes was quite good.
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Hi Dr. keith. This statement:

"The lie Cohen pleaded guilty to telling was that Trump did nothing wrong."

Is not accurate. Not at all. Cohen lied to Congress about the details of an otherwise totally legal project.

the lies were the crimes, not anything Trump did.

I linked the information earlier in the thread. If you need me to walk you through it, you just let The Big Dog know.
I must be really confused. Please do.
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Oh dear, the relevance is that the leftists' newest and bestest buddy Michael cohen is congenital liar of Hillarian Proportions.
In 759 days, President Trump has made 8,718 false or misleading claims. Courtesy Washington Post
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I gotta admit; when he gets out of prison Cohen might get a gig as a talk show host;he has shown he's good with comebacks.
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You know guys, that ignore button is pretty useful.

Also, Tlaib should have said to Meadows "I didn't say you were a racist, but that was a damn good impression of one."
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I must be really confused. Please do.
Sure. You see there is something called an Information. let me know when you have read the entire Information I linked earlier.

/so to confirm, you did claim you are an attorney, right?
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In 759 days, President Trump has made 8,718 false or misleading claims. Courtesy Washington Post
And I am sure that the WAPO missed a few....


I expect politicans to lie;every politician does. I even expect the President to lie on occasion. But the amount of lying Trump does is just staggering.
And what gets to me is so many of them are Dumb Lies;the kind of Lie I feel he is insulting my intelligence by expecting I would fall for it. I can have a certain twisted respect for a clever liar, but Trump is a just plain dumb liar.
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Quite the dramatic ending.

Congressman who did the racist thing, Trump's black friend proves he's not a racist, gets called on it by a black Congresswoman. Goes into a pearl clutching outrage, settled by Cummings clarifying the accusation was general, not personal. Nice one. Prevents the testimony from being stricken from the record, takes the teeth out of the Congressman's outrage while leaving the blatant (and valid) accusation intact. Whether he's a racist or not, the tactic was racist.

Then Cummings gave a great closing argument, all about the democracy Trump is a threat to.
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Yep. People lie. People come clean. A good barometer is whether or not they stand to gain from it. Cohen does not appear to be gaining much, save a little self respect
Well if you don't consider the book deals worth millions................sure.

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You know guys, that ignore button is pretty useful.

Also, Tlaib should have said to Meadows "I didn't say you were a racist, but that was a damn good impression of one."
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If you need me to walk you through it, you just let The Big Dog know.
Wheeeee!

How about walking us through whatever argument you're trying to make. "Cohen is a liar, therefore... ?"
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