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Old 13th August 2022, 06:45 AM   #81
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Originally Posted by JayUtah View Post
I don't even agree with this delineation of natural. Why is culture not part of natural human behavior? It seems people want to draw a bright line between some imagined category of animalistic behavior and some other imagined category of sophistication and say that one is part of human nature and the other isn't, even though humans do all of it. I deem Pride and Prejudice to be just as much a part of human nature as taking a crap.

"Homosexuality in humans is not natural," has to be the most asinine, circularly-reasoned conclusion I've ever heard.
True enough, but I was sticking to the dubious dualistic vernacular here, which is still not enough to make the bad argument good.

There are, of course, some aspects of our own nature that are not nice to nature in the overall-everything-in-the world sense. It may be in our nature to want to roll coal in our jacked up F350's, but, as we're told in The African Queen, "Nature, Mr. Allnut, is what we are put on this earth to rise above!"
I love this world, but not for its answers. (Mary Oliver)

"There is another world, but it's in this one." (Paul Eluard)
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