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Old 27th July 2022, 06:24 AM   #1401
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‘Night of terror’: Female inmates raped when male detainees bribed guard, lawsuit says


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Female inmates at an Indiana jail were subjected to a “night of terror” when male detainees gained access to their cells, the women allege in a lawsuit.

The lawsuit was filed Friday, July 22, by eight women against Clark County Sheriff Jamey Noel and current and former Clark County Jail officers. It’s the second lawsuit filed this summer following the alleged incident, with 20 women filing suit in June, court records show.

The women claim that on Oct. 23, 2021, jail officer David Lowe gave two male detainees keys to the interior of the jail in exchange for $1,000.

That night, the two male detainees and other male inmates went into restricted areas of the jail that housed women, according to the lawsuit.

“Numerous male detainees used the keys obtained from Lowe to enter Pods 4(E) and 4(F), where they raped, assaulted, harassed, threatened and intimidated the plaintiffs in this lawsuit, and other women, for several hours, resulting in significant physical and emotional injuries,” the lawsuit filed in the United States District Court of the Southern District of Indiana says.

The men threatened to further harm the women if they pressed the emergency call button, according to the lawsuit.

The women claim in the lawsuit that no jail officers came to their aid throughout the night, despite the assaults being viewable on surveillance video.
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Old 27th July 2022, 06:28 AM   #1402
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None of that would have happened if those women had been at home being properly subservient to their husbands, so really you have to blame both sides.
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Old 27th July 2022, 07:05 AM   #1403
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I've literally started to type my opinion three times before this and just couldn't manage it - it's something you'd only ever think would, no could happen in a crap thriller.
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Old 27th July 2022, 08:05 AM   #1404
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From the article,

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After the Oct. 23 incident, jail officials punished the women by leaving the lights on for 72 straight hours, denying them normal privileges and confiscating pillows, blankets and hygiene items, according to the lawsuit.
Evil *****. Abjectly vile. What carved them so hollow?

It is difficult not to advocate for violence in this case.
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Old 27th July 2022, 05:06 PM   #1405
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I've literally started to type my opinion three times before this and just couldn't manage it - it's something you'd only ever think would, no could happen in a crap thriller.
When I saw the headline, I thought this must have happened in some horrible third-world ******** hell-on-earth country. Then I found out I was right.
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This is one of the most horrifying news stories about prisons I've read.

Lowe in particular, and every single jail official that could see what was happening and did nothing, should be charged as an accessory to every individual assault that occurred.
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Old 28th July 2022, 05:46 AM   #1407
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Originally Posted by tyr_13 View Post
...It is difficult not to advocate for violence in this case.
It's equally difficult, for me anyway, not to take satisfaction in the fact Sheriff Noel and his staff may soon get to experience firsthand something similar to what the 28 victims (and counting) had to endure.
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Another one from Indiana:

Brookville, Indiana, police accused of arresting man they did not want running for office

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The Brookville Police Department is under scrutiny after allegations surfaced about officers targeting a man and arresting him for rape because they did not want him in an elected position.

Franklin County Prosecutor Chris Huerkamp announced Tuesday he had dismissed the charges, adding he’s disturbed at the arrest. Huerkamp has requested that Indiana State Police investigate.

Court documents state the man wanted to run for Brookville Town Board but was known to police for being anti-law enforcement.

The man is not named in this report because he is not facing any charges.

“Keep in mind,” said Judson McMillin, the man’s attorney, “that the board is the boss of the law enforcement.”
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It's equally difficult, for me anyway, not to take satisfaction in the fact Sheriff Noel and his staff may soon get to experience firsthand something similar to what the 28 victims (and counting) had to endure.
What makes you think that's possible? I might be missing something, but this is a civil suit and the only law enforcement charged was the one bribed. Even the civil suit won't take money from the officials who did wrong.

That's actually, specifically, why it is so difficult not to want violence, in the 'making peaceful revolution impossible makes violent revolution inevitable' kind of way. There is zero recourse anywhere near sufficient to address the injustice done by these officials and staff. The worst that will happen to all but the one who handed over the key is losing a job or an election. The system leaves no possible way to seek justice outside of extra-judicial violence.

Which is a problem all of it's own.
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At least this time they kept it in house....

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/l...brary/3125491/
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At least this time they kept it in house....

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/l...brary/3125491/
Drawing a loaded gun during a ******* training session on the use of batons? WTF?
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Drawing a loaded gun during a ******* training session on the use of batons? WTF?
If the library POLICE(!?!?!) had been trained properly he would have been gunned down as soon as he reached for his gun
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Old 5th August 2022, 09:26 AM   #1413
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At least this time they kept it in house....

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/l...brary/3125491/
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“I don’t have answers as to why the live firearm was in asp baton training,” Contee said. “I don’t have those answers for you right now.”
I do. Cops in the US love guns and love to play with guns because not one has received decent training.
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It was a library did they at least use a silencer?
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Old 5th August 2022, 02:51 PM   #1415
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It was a library did they at least use a silencer?
Book him!
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If the library POLICE(!?!?!) had been trained properly he would have been gunned down as soon as he reached for his gun
What was it Claus Larsen said he would do if he saw a man in a library with a gun?
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New York Cop Bought Rifle for Neo-Nazi ‘Rapekreig’ Marine Who Planned Synagogue Attack: Feds

The former Marine is also alleged to have written a neo-Nazi group's plans to sexually assault white women to create more white children.


Knowingly, of course.
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At least this time they kept it in house....

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/l...brary/3125491/
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Drawing a loaded gun during a ******* training session on the use of batons? WTF?
Shot by the *trainer*

"Who trains the trainers"?
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1st Amendment!
2nd Amendment!
Bad apple!
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Orangeburg couple alleges in new lawsuit that police removed them from home at gunpoint

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ORANGEBURG — Armed officers from two small-town police departments roused a couple from their bed and unlawfully detained them in August 2020 based on a personal vendetta, according to a pair of lawsuits filed earlier this week.

The couple’s lawyers released body- and dash-camera footage Aug. 3 that shows the trio of armed officers driving up to the Orangeburg County residence of Shane Glover, who was there with his girlfriend Codie Fuller.

Holly Hill police officers Jermaine Smith and Jacob Bolen, along with Santee police officer George Chappell, arrived at the home around 2 a.m. Aug. 2, 2020. They shouted at the couple to come outside and placed them in handcuffs while their child was asleep inside the residence, according to the suits.

The officers were operating outside their lawful jurisdiction at the time and did not have warrants, the suits allege.
This story has it all: thuggish cops abusing their power, an utterly uselessness investigation by state police (hello again, SLED!), Cop of the Year Syndrome, and a fired cop hired by a neighboring police agency.
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And let's not forget the child in the house. Already born, so tough luck.
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There was a link to another story on that page:

https://www.postandcourier.com/news/...5e9d4ea91.html

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GOOSE CREEK — Two former school resource officers were arrested Aug. 3 following an investigation into inappropriate sexual conduct at Stratford High School.

Conrad Sands Stayton, 40, was arrested on charges of third-degree sexual exploitation of a minor and misconduct in office on allegations he kept “pornographic” photos of a 17-year-old student on his phone.

...snip....

Shelly Love Ollic, Stayton’s former supervisor at the Goose Creek Police Department, was arrested on one count of misconduct in office. The 52-year-old lieutenant is accused of failing to report Stayton’s inappropriate behavior to authorities.

...snip....

Ollic failed to report to her superiors that the student spent “extended time” with Stayton in a hotel room during an event in January sponsored by the police department.

The student later reported being sexually assaulted by Stayton, according to the affidavits.

...snip...

It’s unclear whether Stayton possessed pornographic images of the same student who made the sexual assault claim. The student’s name and pronouns were also redacted in the affidavits.


Goose Creek Police Chief LJ Roscoe said the department became aware of the allegations against Stayton in early March. She terminated the officer later that month following an internal investigation.
...snip...
One bad apple....
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Because of course they'd be trained in dowsing for bodies - what could go wrong?
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FWIW, I'll take them teaching that over teaching things like Killology any day. As least that's a relatively harmless thing to teach in and of itself, even if it's a bit wasteful.
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I've been dowsing for bodies for many years. I've got a 100% hit rate in cemeteries!
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I've been dowsing for bodies for many years. I've got a 100% hit rate in cemeteries!
Except for the caskets buried empty?
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The dowsing found the spirit of the deceased there, so it counts.
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An Alabama town has dissolved its police department after local media publicized a text exchange consisting of a racist joke between two unnamed police officers of the town.

The police chief initially responded to the controversial report by announcing that "appropriate action had been taken", without any elaboration or further comment. However the city council held an emergency meeting in which they effectively fired both the police chief and his assistant, and then disbanded the department entirely, evidently on account of the two removed individuals being the entire leadership corps of the department and there being an extremely small number of remaining officers - the article suggests perhaps as few as one.

For now, the county sheriff's department has taken over enforcement duties in the town. The sheriff released his own statement condemning the racist texts.
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That's good. Unfortunately, we all know they'll soon get hired somewhere else.
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Lawyers for the City of New York submitted a brief this week that blamed the death of a 3-month-old baby killed by a reckless driver last year in Clinton Hill, Brooklyn on her grieving parents. Because really, they should have known how dangerous it is to exist on a New York sidewalk.

Julien Mong and Marion Guillemin lost their infant daughter Apolline Mong-Guillemin on September 11, 2021. That evening, the family was out for a stroll when Tyrik Mott drove the wrong way down a one-way street while fleeing police. Mott hit another driver, forcing that car on to the curb and into the small family. The second car hit Mong, Guillemin and their daughter, launching the 3-month-old from her stroller. Mott had a long history of traffic violations, according to AMNY
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Mong-Guillemin was rushed to the hospital and pronounced dead on arrival. Guillemin was also severely injured in the crash. Mong and Guillemin filed a wrongful death lawsuit against the city last month. The pair specifically blame New York for “...failing to design, construct … and maintain [roads] in a reasonably safe condition thereby creating dangerous and hazardous conditions,” Streetsblog NY reports. They also blame the police for pursuing Mott in the middle of New York’s most densely populated borough over something as minor as a red light infraction.

The city responded by saying no, it’s actually the grieving parents who are responsible for their child’s death for daring to talk a walk with their new baby on a warm summer evening. From Streetsblog:

“Plaintiff[s] culpable conduct caused or contributed to the alleged injuries and the alleged wrongful death,” the city’s Assistant Corporation Counsel Elizabeth Gross wrote in court papers filed late last week in response to a wrongful death lawsuit filed last month by Apolline’s parents, Julien Mong and Marion Guillemin against the city and the drivers involved in the crash. “Plaintiff[s] negligence caused or contributed to the alleged injuries and the alleged wrongful death.”

And after blaming both parents for “negligence” and “culpable conduct” for taking their daughter for a walk on the sidewalk along Vanderbilt and Gates avenue in the gloaming of Sept. 11, 2021, the city twists the shiv a bit deeper by claiming that the parents should have known how dangerous it is to walk along a New York City street — a legal argument that at once seeks to hold the city blameless while also admitting that it is failing to keep the streets safe.

“Any and all risks, hazards, defects, and dangers … were of an open, obvious, apparent, and inherent nature, and were known or should have been known to plaintiff[s],” the city’s court papers claim

The city’s Law Department also claim that the NYPD had to chase down Mott due to “...the risks to the public, outweighed the danger to the community if the suspect was not immediately apprehended.” Why that driver, who had 160 traffic violations and $14,000 in fines, didn’t present enough of a danger to the community for the city to at least revoke his license wasn’t mentioned in the city’s response. In the city’s Law Department’s opinion, New York’s Department of Transportation and Police Department are completely blameless and immune from the lawsuit. Mott was charged with manslaughter. His next court appearance is set for August 24.
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If I was the father I don't think I could ever appear in court. I would wind up killing somebody.
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I can kind of see the argument that the city can't be held responsible. Accidents will always be able to occur however safe you have tried to build the road.

But there's a long way from that argument to "parents showed negligence and is culpable for walking on the sidewalk with their child". That is victim blaming of the highest order. Ms Gross should be ashamed of herself. **** that noise.

Also initiating a chase in a heavily populated area over a red light infraction?? US police is really something else.
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What an absolute piece of ****.
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What an absolute piece of ****.
Yes, plain and simple. I hope it ends her career.
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What an absolute piece of ****.
That's the best thing you've ever said about me!
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Originally Posted by shemp View Post
A bit off-topic, I think. A more appropriate one would be "the behavior of American lawyers.
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Originally Posted by Trebuchet View Post
A bit off-topic, I think. A more appropriate one would be "the behavior of American lawyers.
It's the knock-on effect from the so called "Tort Reform" movement. We were bombarded with propaganda about the evil of frivolous lawsuits and nary a word about the frivolous defense of a lawsuit. Which from the perspective of everyone not an insurance company or large corporation is the far worse problem.

This is that sort of thing. The officer was reckless and probably in violation of policy by chasing someone over a traffic violation. Admit civil liability and maybe have a trial over damages unless there is a settlement.
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Mississippi Town Sued After Its Former Police Chief Bragged About Killing Black People
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/lexin...b077bb77a67415

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“According to data compiled by JULIAN and ACLU-Mississippi, the LPD has customarily violated the First, Fourth, and Fourteenth Amendments, the fundamental right to travel freely, and the Civil Rights Act,” the lawsuit alleges. “Over 200 Black citizens have formally or informally complained about being harassed, arrested, or fined for baseless reasons in the past year or so.”
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“I shot that ********** 119 times, OK?” he says in the expletive-laden recording that also includes the statement: “I don’t talk to ******* queers, I don’t talk to ******* ********ts.”
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Originally Posted by Ranb View Post
Mississippi Town Sued After Its Former Police Chief Bragged About Killing Black People
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/lexin...b077bb77a67415





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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfAHfWr6vvA

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Police manage to shoot a man who had already thrown his gun away and put his hands in the air, and also shoot six innocent bystanders.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/...jured-88514862
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