IS Forum
Forum Index Register Members List Events Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read Help

Go Back   International Skeptics Forum » General Topics » USA Politics
 


Welcome to the International Skeptics Forum, where we discuss skepticism, critical thinking, the paranormal and science in a friendly but lively way. You are currently viewing the forum as a guest, which means you are missing out on discussing matters that are of interest to you. Please consider registering so you can gain full use of the forum features and interact with other Members. Registration is simple, fast and free! Click here to register today.
Tags donald trump , Trump administration , Trump controversies

Reply
Old 17th August 2022, 10:37 PM   #1881
Aridas
Crazy Little Green Dragon
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: East Coast, US
Posts: 9,239
Originally Posted by Steve View Post
And no one is actually saying that Trump is not Russia's boy.
Not true! Lots of the willfully blind are and have been saying that!

With that said, two points are probably worth remembering to temper newyorkguy's surprise. First, Russian media has said similar things about Trump being their agent/ally/etc many times previously, including throughout the Trump Presidency. Second, I don't think that I've ever seen this cause a problem for the willfully blind. That Russian media is deeply untrustworthy and that Russia quite manifestly has a history of trying to stoke division and chaos actually do make for pretty solid examples of reasons not to treat the potential cognitive dissonance causers that Russian media spouts as worthy of serious consideration, much as it's somewhat unlikely that those who willfully ignore the mountain of evidence and solid lines of reasoning will actually truly employ the valid reasons to be wary of such.
__________________
So sayeth the crazy little dragon.

Last edited by Aridas; 17th August 2022 at 10:39 PM.
Aridas is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 17th August 2022, 11:14 PM   #1882
The Great Zaganza
Maledictorian
 
The Great Zaganza's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 18,589
Originally Posted by Aridas View Post
Not true! Lots of the willfully blind are and have been saying that!

With that said, two points are probably worth remembering to temper newyorkguy's surprise. First, Russian media has said similar things about Trump being their agent/ally/etc many times previously, including throughout the Trump Presidency. Second, I don't think that I've ever seen this cause a problem for the willfully blind. That Russian media is deeply untrustworthy and that Russia quite manifestly has a history of trying to stoke division and chaos actually do make for pretty solid examples of reasons not to treat the potential cognitive dissonance causers that Russian media spouts as worthy of serious consideration, much as it's somewhat unlikely that those who willfully ignore the mountain of evidence and solid lines of reasoning will actually truly employ the valid reasons to be wary of such.
Unless they report something that you want to hear - then it's God's Honest Truth every time.
__________________
"The only true paradise is paradise lost"
Marcel Proust
The Great Zaganza is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 18th August 2022, 12:32 AM   #1883
SteveAitch
Muse
 
SteveAitch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2020
Location: St Aines
Posts: 637
Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza View Post
Unless they report something that you want to hear - then it's God's Honest Truth every time.
Well, to quote someone or other, the bests lies contain a grain of truth.

Or something.
__________________
If this board is too exciting for you, try my Flickr pages. Warning: may cause narcolepsy!

Some people call me 'strange'. I prefer 'unconventional'. But I'm willing to compromise and accept 'eccentric'...
SteveAitch is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 18th August 2022, 05:59 AM   #1884
newyorkguy
Penultimate Amazing
 
newyorkguy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: NY
Posts: 12,480
I can't find examples of the Russian media saying trump was a Russian agent "many times previously." I did find one other time that a Russian state TV host referred to trump being a Russian agent but they made it clear it was speculation, bordering on hyperbole. The Wrap reported on this in 2018, following trump's visit to the Russian-United States summit in Helsinki that summer.
Quote:
Russian media has enjoyed President Trump’s love affair with Vladimir Putin, with one host saying on the country’s’ state-controlled television network that Trump appeared to be an operative for their country. “When Trump says our relations are bad because of American foolishness and stupidity, he really smells like an agent of the Kremlin,” said Olga Skabeeva, a host of the Russian program “60 Minutes.” Link to The Wrap
The irony is, if Russian state TV hosts really thought trump was working for Russia, I don't think they would say it, at least not publicly. My feeling is, the comment that trump is their "agent" is probably an example of Russia's efforts to sow disinformation.
newyorkguy is online now   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 18th August 2022, 06:12 AM   #1885
SteveAitch
Muse
 
SteveAitch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2020
Location: St Aines
Posts: 637
Originally Posted by newyorkguy View Post
The irony is, if Russian state TV hosts really thought trump was working for Russia, I don't think they would say it, at least not publicly. My feeling is, the comment that trump is their "agent" is probably an example of Russia's efforts to sow disinformation.
Double bluff?
__________________
If this board is too exciting for you, try my Flickr pages. Warning: may cause narcolepsy!

Some people call me 'strange'. I prefer 'unconventional'. But I'm willing to compromise and accept 'eccentric'...
SteveAitch is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 18th August 2022, 06:46 AM   #1886
Fast Eddie B
Philosopher
 
Fast Eddie B's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Lenoir City, TN/Mineral Bluff, GA
Posts: 7,329
Originally Posted by Steve View Post
And no one is actually saying that Trump is not Russia's boy.
I’d say a good 30% of voters still believe the “no collusion” refrain we heard from Barr et al following the release Mueller Report, and that any connection between Trump and Russia is just a hoax.
Fast Eddie B is online now   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 18th August 2022, 08:39 AM   #1887
JoeMorgue
Self Employed
Remittance Man
 
JoeMorgue's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Florida
Posts: 41,315
People forget how much of a joke Trump was... right up until he won.
__________________
"If everyone in the room says water is wet and I say it's dry that makes me smart because at least I'm thinking for myself!" - The Proudly Wrong.
JoeMorgue is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 18th August 2022, 09:10 AM   #1888
Upchurch
Papa Funkosophy
 
Upchurch's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: St. Louis, MO
Posts: 33,162
Originally Posted by JoeMorgue View Post
People forget how much of a joke Trump was... right up until he won.
He's still a joke. There is just a bigger joke that he once, and only once, fooled enough people in just the right places.
__________________
"There is nothing more deceptive than an obvious fact." -- Sherlock Holmes.
"It’s easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled." -- Mark Twain, maybe.
Upchurch is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 18th August 2022, 01:12 PM   #1889
dudalb
Penultimate Amazing
 
dudalb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Sacramento
Posts: 56,301
I have to wonder at this point, given that Trump has no hesistatin about dumping people, he might not begin to distance himself from Putin, now that Putin has become what Trump despises more then anything..a loser.
__________________
Pacifism is a shifty doctrine under which a man accepts the benefits of the social group without being willing to pay - and claims a halo for his dishonesty.

Robert Heinlein.
dudalb is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 19th August 2022, 03:51 AM   #1890
Susheel
Master Poster
 
Susheel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Hyderabad, India
Posts: 2,862
Originally Posted by dudalb View Post
I have to wonder at this point, given that Trump has no hesistatin about dumping people, he might not begin to distance himself from Putin, now that Putin has become what Trump despises more then anything..a loser.
How do you figure that?...Putin is doing a lot better than Trump in his own country. I think Trump's relations with Putin goes a lot deeper than just a diplomatic fellow traveller. I think Putin's network of pet oligarchs have contributed greatly to keeping him financially viable for some years now.
__________________
I've got to get to a library...fast Robert Langdon
Susheel is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 19th August 2022, 06:18 AM   #1891
Norman Alexander
Penultimate Amazing
 
Norman Alexander's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: Gundungurra
Posts: 12,366
Originally Posted by Susheel View Post
How do you figure that?...Putin is doing a lot better than Trump in his own country. I think Trump's relations with Putin goes a lot deeper than just a diplomatic fellow traveller. I think Putin's network of pet oligarchs have contributed greatly to keeping him financially viable for some years now.
Since the casino days. Trump's tiny pink balls, and all his markers, have been in Pootie's top drawer since Pootie became head honcho of the Russian crime world.
__________________
...our governments are just trying to protect us from terror. In the same way that someone banging a hornets’ nest with a stick is trying to protect us from hornets. Frankie Boyle, Guardian, July 2015
Norman Alexander is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 19th August 2022, 06:53 AM   #1892
Aridas
Crazy Little Green Dragon
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: East Coast, US
Posts: 9,239
Originally Posted by Norman Alexander View Post
Since the casino days. Trump's tiny pink balls, and all his markers, have been in Pootie's top drawer since Pootie became head honcho of the Russian crime world.
Add to that that Putin still could give Trump what Trump wants. That includes an "in" to the massively corrupt Russian business scene that Trump has been trying to get (more) in on for a long time now. Besides that, given how easily Trump gives Putin blackmail, it's still fairly safe to say that Putin's got plenty more blackmail on Trump. Trump's not likely to actually ditch Putin any time soon.

Elsewhere, looks like Trump Org is facing serious problems as Weisselberg has pled guilty on all 15 counts of tax fraud and has agreed to testify against the Trump Org on the subject when that reaches the court in a couple months. Trump's apparently pled the Fifth over 400 times on that front. I suppose we may see if his usual BSing will let that hold.
__________________
So sayeth the crazy little dragon.
Aridas is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 19th August 2022, 07:24 AM   #1893
eerok
Quixoticist
 
eerok's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: ON Canada
Posts: 5,253
Originally Posted by Aridas View Post
Add to that that Putin still could give Trump what Trump wants. That includes an "in" to the massively corrupt Russian business scene that Trump has been trying to get (more) in on for a long time now. Besides that, given how easily Trump gives Putin blackmail, it's still fairly safe to say that Putin's got plenty more blackmail on Trump. Trump's not likely to actually ditch Putin any time soon.
Trump's best move is to go full Seagal. Just kidding, but not entirely.
__________________
"Every saint has a past and every sinner has a future." - Oscar Wilde
eerok is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 19th August 2022, 07:43 AM   #1894
Segnosaur
Penultimate Amazing
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Canada, eh?
Posts: 19,066
Originally Posted by eerok View Post
Trump's best move is to go full Seagal. Just kidding, but not entirely.
Do you really want to see Trump act in a bunch of cheesy straight -to-dvd action films?

On second thought... Maybe filming the action scenes might cause a cheezburger-induced heart attack.....

Sent from my moto e using Tapatalk
__________________
Trust me, I know what I'm doing. - Sledgehammer

I'm Mary Poppin's Y'all! - Yondu

We are Groot - Groot
Segnosaur is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 19th August 2022, 08:24 AM   #1895
eerok
Quixoticist
 
eerok's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: ON Canada
Posts: 5,253
Originally Posted by Segnosaur View Post
Do you really want to see Trump act in a bunch of cheesy straight -to-dvd action films?

On second thought... Maybe filming the action scenes might cause a cheezburger-induced heart attack.....
Trump is also a lying blowhard who can't fight worth a damn, so he's qualified.
__________________
"Every saint has a past and every sinner has a future." - Oscar Wilde
eerok is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 19th August 2022, 09:23 AM   #1896
Segnosaur
Penultimate Amazing
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Canada, eh?
Posts: 19,066
Originally Posted by Prometheus View Post
Quote:
We don't actually know that. Yes, its easy to claim "hillary was a bad candidate, and its obvious because she lost". But there is no guarantee that any alternative would have won either.

She did have a few specific drawbacks related to her as a person that were unique.... a history of smear tactics by republicans over the years, the fact that she was a woman, etc.. But many of the other disadvantages she faced would have impacted ANY democratic candidate.
I think the hilited bit was decisive. She drew traditionally apathetic crazies out of the woodwork. The only worse choice the Democrats could make in '24 would be to nominate Fauci (and given the chance, I wouldn't put it past them...).
But any potential candidate would have had their own drawbacks.

Sanders? If he loses then people would complain "only the democrats would pick a far-left socialist who riled up republicans enough to vote for Trump".

O'Malley? People would complain "why did you pick a candidate from a tiny state with such a low national profile?"

I am not saying the Democrats were guaranteed to lose. I'm just saying that I don't think its fair to say "only she would have lost". There were factors working against the Democrats that would have applied regardless of the candidate.
__________________
Trust me, I know what I'm doing. - Sledgehammer

I'm Mary Poppin's Y'all! - Yondu

We are Groot - Groot
Segnosaur is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 19th August 2022, 12:27 PM   #1897
Stacyhs
Penultimate Amazing
 
Stacyhs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: United States
Posts: 26,713
Originally Posted by Prometheus View Post
Hillary was the only candidate in the Democratic field who could have possibly lost to Trump in 2016. Her nomination is the reason we got stuck with the orange clown in the first place.
Speculation. But, even if true, that does not change what I said:

I'd rather have Hillary than Trump or ANY Republican.

Hillary was so right about Trump.

The "basket of deplorables" was an understatement.
Stacyhs is online now   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 19th August 2022, 12:28 PM   #1898
Stacyhs
Penultimate Amazing
 
Stacyhs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: United States
Posts: 26,713
Originally Posted by Upchurch View Post
He's still a joke. There is just a bigger joke that he once, and only once, fooled enough people in just the right places.
Stacyhs is online now   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 22nd August 2022, 06:27 AM   #1899
Segnosaur
Penultimate Amazing
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Canada, eh?
Posts: 19,066
Sorry we threatened to have you locked up, my followers suggested you were involved in a child trafficing ring, and I hinted to gun nuts that perhaps you should be shot if you won. But after getting elected (thanks in part to russian election interference), we're all good now, right?

From: Business Insider
Kushner, Trump's son-in-law, writes that the former president wanted to establish a "cordial relationship with Hillary to unite the country"....Trump "told Ivanka to invite Hillary and Bill for dinner in the coming weeks"

Why do I get the feeling Kushner's book will be largely self-serving and involve a ton of whitewashing of his and Trump's role in hurting the U.S.?
__________________
Trust me, I know what I'm doing. - Sledgehammer

I'm Mary Poppin's Y'all! - Yondu

We are Groot - Groot
Segnosaur is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 22nd August 2022, 12:24 PM   #1900
Stacyhs
Penultimate Amazing
 
Stacyhs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: United States
Posts: 26,713
Originally Posted by Segnosaur View Post
Sorry we threatened to have you locked up, my followers suggested you were involved in a child trafficing ring, and I hinted to gun nuts that perhaps you should be shot if you won. But after getting elected (thanks in part to russian election interference), we're all good now, right?

From: Business Insider
Kushner, Trump's son-in-law, writes that the former president wanted to establish a "cordial relationship with Hillary to unite the country"....Trump "told Ivanka to invite Hillary and Bill for dinner in the coming weeks"

Why do I get the feeling Kushner's book will be largely self-serving and involve a ton of whitewashing of his and Trump's role in hurting the U.S.?
Ya think?

I don't believe Trump ever entertained the thought of having the Clintons over for dinner or establishing any kind of cordial relationship with them. He's too much of a petty, grudge-holding, vengeful narcissist for that.
Stacyhs is online now   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 22nd August 2022, 02:10 PM   #1901
Steve
Penultimate Amazing
 
Steve's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Sydney Nova Scotia
Posts: 11,585
Originally Posted by Stacyhs View Post
Ya think?

I don't believe Trump ever entertained the thought of having the Clintons over for dinner or establishing any kind of cordial relationship with them. He's too much of a petty, grudge-holding, vengeful narcissist for that.
Surely Kushner wouldn't lie about such a thing?
__________________
Caption from and old New Yorker cartoon - Why am I shouting? Because I'm wrong!"
Steve is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 22nd August 2022, 02:26 PM   #1902
Norman Alexander
Penultimate Amazing
 
Norman Alexander's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: Gundungurra
Posts: 12,366
Originally Posted by Steve View Post
Surely Kushner wouldn't lie about such a thing?
Or more likely he is SUCH a dork he missed Donny's "vengeful LOL" tone of voice when the original invitation was discussed.

"Hey, Kushner! Invite Hillary and Bill over for dinner! Say it's to 'make up for all the hurtful talk in the election'. Then we'll make 'em an offer they can't refuse! Heh heh!"
__________________
...our governments are just trying to protect us from terror. In the same way that someone banging a hornets’ nest with a stick is trying to protect us from hornets. Frankie Boyle, Guardian, July 2015
Norman Alexander is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 22nd August 2022, 05:43 PM   #1903
autumn1971
Illuminator
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 3,851
I’m going with he’s a feckless **** married to a feckless **** who is the daughter of a feckless ****.
__________________
'A knave; a rascal; an eater of broken meats; a base, proud, shallow, beggardly, three-suited, hundred-pound, filthy, worsted-stocking knave; a lily-livered, action-taking knave, a whoreson, glass-gazing, superservicable, finical rogue;... the son and heir of a mongral bitch: one whom I will beat into clamorous whining, if thou deniest the least syllable of thy addition."'
-The Bard
autumn1971 is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 23rd August 2022, 07:25 AM   #1904
Segnosaur
Penultimate Amazing
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Canada, eh?
Posts: 19,066
Originally Posted by Stacyhs View Post
Quote:
Sorry we threatened to have you locked up, my followers suggested you were involved in a child trafficing ring, and I hinted to gun nuts that perhaps you should be shot if you won. But after getting elected (thanks in part to russian election interference), we're all good now, right?

From: Business Insider
Kushner, Trump's son-in-law, writes that the former president wanted to establish a "cordial relationship with Hillary to unite the country"....Trump "told Ivanka to invite Hillary and Bill for dinner in the coming weeks"
I don't believe Trump ever entertained the thought of having the Clintons over for dinner or establishing any kind of cordial relationship with them. He's too much of a petty, grudge-holding, vengeful narcissist for that.
Personally I could see him wanting to have the Clintons over for dinner. But not because he wanted to 'unite the country' or have a 'cordial relationship', but BECAUSE he is a petty vengeful narcissist.

Trump would use the dinner as an opportunity to suggest the Clintons were "bending the knee" to him, and acknowledging his greatness. He might even try suggesting they came "begging" for something from him.
__________________
Trust me, I know what I'm doing. - Sledgehammer

I'm Mary Poppin's Y'all! - Yondu

We are Groot - Groot
Segnosaur is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 23rd August 2022, 10:11 AM   #1905
Jim_MDP
Philosopher
 
Jim_MDP's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: N.Cal/S.Or
Posts: 9,124
That would be my take as well, not whatever The Kush thought... or is trying to put forward.
__________________
----------------------
Anything goes in the Goblin hut... anything.

"Suggesting spurious explanations isn't relevant to my work." -- WTC Dust.
"Both cannot be simultaneously true, and so one may conclude neither is true, and if neither is true, then Apollo is fraudulent." -- Patrick1000.
Jim_MDP is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 23rd August 2022, 11:11 AM   #1906
alfaniner
Penultimate Amazing
 
alfaniner's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Sorth Dakonsin
Posts: 27,079
Originally Posted by Segnosaur View Post
Personally I could see him wanting to have the Clintons over for dinner. But not because he wanted to 'unite the country' or have a 'cordial relationship', but BECAUSE he is a petty vengeful narcissist.

Trump would use the dinner as an opportunity to suggest the Clintons were "bending the knee" to him, and acknowledging his greatness. He might even try suggesting they came "begging" for something from him.
And guess who would get the biggest piece of chocolate cake? Maybe even two.
__________________
Science is self-correcting.
Woo is self-contradicting.
alfaniner is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 23rd August 2022, 11:16 AM   #1907
Jim_MDP
Philosopher
 
Jim_MDP's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: N.Cal/S.Or
Posts: 9,124
Originally Posted by alfaniner View Post
And guess who would get the biggest piece of chocolate cake? Maybe even two.
A la mode. Two scoops.
__________________
----------------------
Anything goes in the Goblin hut... anything.

"Suggesting spurious explanations isn't relevant to my work." -- WTC Dust.
"Both cannot be simultaneously true, and so one may conclude neither is true, and if neither is true, then Apollo is fraudulent." -- Patrick1000.
Jim_MDP is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 23rd August 2022, 11:22 AM   #1908
Stacyhs
Penultimate Amazing
 
Stacyhs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: United States
Posts: 26,713
Originally Posted by Segnosaur View Post
Personally I could see him wanting to have the Clintons over for dinner. But not because he wanted to 'unite the country' or have a 'cordial relationship', but BECAUSE he is a petty vengeful narcissist.

Trump would use the dinner as an opportunity to suggest the Clintons were "bending the knee" to him, and acknowledging his greatness. He might even try suggesting they came "begging" for something from him.
On second thought, you could be right. With Trump, that is a distinct possibility. The Clintons, however, would never have accepted an invitation from Trump. They had no reason, unlike the GOP, to kowtow to Trump.
Stacyhs is online now   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 23rd August 2022, 11:55 AM   #1909
JoeMorgue
Self Employed
Remittance Man
 
JoeMorgue's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Florida
Posts: 41,315
"But Hillary there's like a 90% chance he's just going to serve a giant buffet spread of McDonalds...."
"No, Bill."
__________________
"If everyone in the room says water is wet and I say it's dry that makes me smart because at least I'm thinking for myself!" - The Proudly Wrong.
JoeMorgue is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 23rd August 2022, 12:50 PM   #1910
TheGoldcountry
Philosopher
 
TheGoldcountry's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 7,087
Originally Posted by JoeMorgue View Post
"But Hillary there's like a 90% chance he's just going to serve a giant buffet spread of McDonalds...."
"No, Bill."
That would be a great SNL skit. The one thing that unites the two.... Big Macs.
__________________
I have no idea what you're trying to say, but I'm still pretty sure that you're wrong. -Akhenaten
I sometimes think the Bible was inspired by Satan to make God look bad. And then it backfired on Him when He underestimated the stupidity of religious ideologues. -MontagK505
TheGoldcountry is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 23rd August 2022, 01:37 PM   #1911
bruto
Penultimate Amazing
 
bruto's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Way way north of Diddy Wah Diddy
Posts: 32,979
Originally Posted by TheGoldcountry View Post
That would be a great SNL skit. The one thing that unites the two.... Big Macs.
Until Trump demands that they split the check.
__________________
I love this world, but not for its answers. (Mary Oliver)

"There is another world, but it's in this one." (Paul Eluard)
bruto is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 23rd August 2022, 01:40 PM   #1912
TheGoldcountry
Philosopher
 
TheGoldcountry's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 7,087
Originally Posted by bruto View Post
Until Trump demands that they split the check.
Split? When's the last time Trump held up his end? He'd bill it to the Clinton Foundation as a "consultant fee."
__________________
I have no idea what you're trying to say, but I'm still pretty sure that you're wrong. -Akhenaten
I sometimes think the Bible was inspired by Satan to make God look bad. And then it backfired on Him when He underestimated the stupidity of religious ideologues. -MontagK505
TheGoldcountry is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 26th August 2022, 12:30 AM   #1913
jimbob
Uncritical "thinker"
Moderator
 
jimbob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: UK
Posts: 27,380
Originally Posted by TheGoldcountry View Post
Split? When's the last time Trump held up his end? He'd bill it to the Clinton Foundation as a "consultant fee."
As this seems the "General nonspecific Trump thread"...

https://youtu.be/nmADwjSogjI

YouTube Video This video is not hosted by the ISF. The ISF can not be held responsible for the suitability or legality of this material. By clicking the link below you agree to view content from an external website.
I AGREE


Warning, contains snark.
__________________
OECD healthcare spending
Public/Compulsory Expenditure on healthcare
https://data.oecd.org/chart/60Tt

Every year since 1990 the US Public healthcare spending has been greater than the UK as a proportion of GDP. More US Tax goes to healthcare than the UK
jimbob is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 26th August 2022, 02:15 AM   #1914
Aridas
Crazy Little Green Dragon
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: East Coast, US
Posts: 9,239
Originally Posted by jimbob View Post
As this seems the "General nonspecific Trump thread"...

https://youtu.be/nmADwjSogjI

YouTube Video This video is not hosted by the ISF. The ISF can not be held responsible for the suitability or legality of this material. By clicking the link below you agree to view content from an external website.
I AGREE


Warning, contains snark.
$1.6 million in unpaid bills, I think I saw? Hasn't paid since March? Huh. Interesting. Was it March when Russian bank accounts and thus their means of paying their foreign... disinformation amplifying employees were largely cut off from use?
__________________
So sayeth the crazy little dragon.
Aridas is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 26th August 2022, 05:39 AM   #1915
Prometheus
Acolyte of Víðarr
 
Prometheus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 50,451
Originally Posted by jimbob View Post
As this seems the "General nonspecific Trump thread"...

https://youtu.be/nmADwjSogjI

YouTube Video This video is not hosted by the ISF. The ISF can not be held responsible for the suitability or legality of this material. By clicking the link below you agree to view content from an external website.
I AGREE


Warning, contains snark.
I don't get what this guy is on about. Trump has a history of not paying his bills and a long trail of failed business ventures. Why is this supposed to be unexpected?
__________________
As Einstein once said, "If you can't think of something relevant to say, just make something up and attribute it to some really smart dead guy."
"I find your lack of pith disturbing," - Darth Rotor
..........
Don't be offended. I'm not calling you a serial killer. -- Ron Tomkins.
Prometheus is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 26th August 2022, 05:57 AM   #1916
Mike!
Official Ponylandistanian National Treasure. Respect it!
 
Mike!'s Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Ponylandistan! Where the bacon grows on trees! Can it get any better than that? I submit it can not!
Posts: 47,267
Originally Posted by Prometheus View Post
I don't get what this guy is on about. Trump has a history of not paying his bills and a long trail of failed business ventures. Why is this supposed to be unexpected?
I believe the gentleman in the video is saying these things with his tongue planted squarely in his cheek.
__________________
"Never judge a man until you’ve walked a mile in his shoes...
Because then it won't really matter, you’ll be a mile away and have his shoes."
Mike! is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 26th August 2022, 06:48 AM   #1917
Prometheus
Acolyte of Víðarr
 
Prometheus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 50,451
Originally Posted by Mike! View Post
I believe the gentleman in the video is saying these things with his tongue planted squarely in his cheek.
ahh, so it's FAKE NEWS....
__________________
As Einstein once said, "If you can't think of something relevant to say, just make something up and attribute it to some really smart dead guy."
"I find your lack of pith disturbing," - Darth Rotor
..........
Don't be offended. I'm not calling you a serial killer. -- Ron Tomkins.
Prometheus is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 26th August 2022, 07:42 AM   #1918
kookbreaker
Evil Fokker
 
kookbreaker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Posts: 14,132
Originally Posted by Mike! View Post
I believe the gentleman in the video is saying these things with his tongue planted squarely in his cheek.
I mean “the upstart Twitter” didn’t give it away?
__________________
www.spectrum-scientifics.com <- My store of science toys, instruments and general fun!

Thanks for helping me win Best Toys in Philly Voter in 2011,2012, and 2014! We won' be discussing the disappointment that was 2013.
kookbreaker is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 26th August 2022, 08:23 AM   #1919
Segnosaur
Penultimate Amazing
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Canada, eh?
Posts: 19,066
Re: Trump's "Truth Social" media site...
Originally Posted by Aridas View Post
$1.6 million in unpaid bills, I think I saw? Hasn't paid since March? Huh. Interesting. Was it March when Russian bank accounts and thus their means of paying their foreign... disinformation amplifying employees were largely cut off from use?
Speaking of the "Truth" site/application...

From: Business Insider
...Trump has run into a significant setback with trademarking the name for his social media platform, Truth Social....Trump's social media app had its application refused by the US Patent and Trademark Office because its name bore too much resemblance to the names of other business entities.

Ha ha! I do like seeing Trump lose.

I assume not being able to trademark the name is probably going to affect the financial value.
__________________
Trust me, I know what I'm doing. - Sledgehammer

I'm Mary Poppin's Y'all! - Yondu

We are Groot - Groot
Segnosaur is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 26th August 2022, 08:52 AM   #1920
Prometheus
Acolyte of Víðarr
 
Prometheus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 50,451
Originally Posted by Segnosaur View Post
Re: Trump's "Truth Social" media site...

Speaking of the "Truth" site/application...

From: Business Insider
...Trump has run into a significant setback with trademarking the name for his social media platform, Truth Social....Trump's social media app had its application refused by the US Patent and Trademark Office because its name bore too much resemblance to the names of other business entities.

Ha ha! I do like seeing Trump lose.

I assume not being able to trademark the name is probably going to affect the financial value.
Not really. He'll just make up a number depending on how he feels on any given day.
__________________
As Einstein once said, "If you can't think of something relevant to say, just make something up and attribute it to some really smart dead guy."
"I find your lack of pith disturbing," - Darth Rotor
..........
Don't be offended. I'm not calling you a serial killer. -- Ron Tomkins.
Prometheus is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Reply

International Skeptics Forum » General Topics » USA Politics

Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 12:08 PM.
Powered by vBulletin. Copyright ©2000 - 2022, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

This forum began as part of the James Randi Education Foundation (JREF). However, the forum now exists as
an independent entity with no affiliation with or endorsement by the JREF, including the section in reference to "JREF" topics.

Disclaimer: Messages posted in the Forum are solely the opinion of their authors.