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Old 3rd July 2010, 05:46 PM   #1
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What do you make of this UFO video documentary?

I think it is quite disturbing. I think there is video of some things here we cnnot explain rationally, and why would they be faked. I look on the internet and many many new videos come to light as people have cameras on them. I would like to know from JREF forum what they make of this video. Maybe some clips are fake, who knows. But all? Which ones do you think are real? I find the clips in broad daylight are hard to explain.

I must confess, three days ago I saw something like a UFO in the sky above my house. It was 3.30 in the morning. I looked out and saw this thing, and got binoculars to see it more clearly. Two lights. One very bright, one smaller, right beside it. I have woken myself up four nights in a row at the same time to see if it is there. No sign. It was not a star or a planet and certainly not a plane.

Anyways, see what you think of this and I would like to know your thoughts as I a bit disturbed by what I saw...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66Th0...ext=1&index=16

There seem to be adverts at the beginning of this. I can only apologise. Not everyone will get the ads. And the program is worth waiting for I think.

Really a bit freaked by what I saw and by this film. Any thoughts appreciated.

Seve
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Old 4th July 2010, 12:37 AM   #2
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What conspiracy theory are you talking about?
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Old 4th July 2010, 03:12 AM   #4
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What I make of it is a 49 minute long video that I have no intent on watching to try and understand a point that you can't be bothered to articulate.

I am soooo sick of posts that are little more than "watch this video!!!!" and a link.
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I think with some hamburger, tomato sauce, onions, beans, a can of beer and some green peppers I could make a great bowl of chili of that UFO video documentary.
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Old 5th July 2010, 06:25 AM   #6
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It's a blimp.

Probably.
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I can make a hat, or a brooch, or a pterodactyl.
Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue.
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"and why would they be faked." Why indeed? Why would the history of "UFO" sightings be populated with the most outrageous frauds and fakes imaginable?
There are thousands. Why do people do it? Why do they fake crop circles? Why do hackers do silly things to websites?
Human nature, my friend.
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Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue.
Its always the wrong week to quit Glue sniffing...sniff

49 Minutes! I would rather soft boil 16 and a bit Eggs
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Old 5th July 2010, 09:09 AM   #11
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Originally Posted by Montmorency View Post
I think it is quite disturbing. I think there is video of some things here we cnnot explain rationally, and why would they be faked. I look on the internet and many many new videos come to light as people have cameras on them. I would like to know from JREF forum what they make of this video. Maybe some clips are fake, who knows. But all? Which ones do you think are real? I find the clips in broad daylight are hard to explain.

I must confess, three days ago I saw something like a UFO in the sky above my house. It was 3.30 in the morning. I looked out and saw this thing, and got binoculars to see it more clearly. Two lights. One very bright, one smaller, right beside it. I have woken myself up four nights in a row at the same time to see if it is there. No sign. It was not a star or a planet and certainly not a plane.

Anyways, see what you think of this and I would like to know your thoughts as I a bit disturbed by what I saw...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66Th0...ext=1&index=16

There seem to be adverts at the beginning of this. I can only apologise. Not everyone will get the ads. And the program is worth waiting for I think.

Really a bit freaked by what I saw and by this film. Any thoughts appreciated.

Seve
anything with a rotating strobe light on the bottom is a blimp, I have it on good authority that the aliens are well past that sort of technology
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Originally Posted by Montmorency View Post
I think it is quite disturbing. I think there is video of some things here we cnnot explain rationally, and why would they be faked. I look on the internet and many many new videos come to light as people have cameras on them. I would like to know from JREF forum what they make of this video. Maybe some clips are fake, who knows. But all? Which ones do you think are real? I find the clips in broad daylight are hard to explain.

I must confess, three days ago I saw something like a UFO in the sky above my house. It was 3.30 in the morning. I looked out and saw this thing, and got binoculars to see it more clearly. Two lights. One very bright, one smaller, right beside it. I have woken myself up four nights in a row at the same time to see if it is there. No sign. It was not a star or a planet and certainly not a plane.

Anyways, see what you think of this and I would like to know your thoughts as I a bit disturbed by what I saw...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66Th0...ext=1&index=16

There seem to be adverts at the beginning of this. I can only apologise. Not everyone will get the ads. And the program is worth waiting for I think.

Really a bit freaked by what I saw and by this film. Any thoughts appreciated.

Seve
Why don't you go ahead and sum it up for those of us who don't want to play the "Watch me sucker people into increasing the hits on my video!" game.
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Got as far as the first video. A quick search showed me that the guy's "UFO" was in fact a NASA balloon, and that NASA had announced that they were launching a balloon that day. If this is among the most impressive sightings, I'm not impressed.
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Originally Posted by Montmorency View Post

Any thoughts appreciated.
It's all balderdash. Don't even need to look at the link to know that.
Oh, and what you saw was either a star or a planet or a plane (or other human artefact)
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Old 19th July 2010, 01:40 PM   #15
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ok, I can see that posting a link to a longer length video is perhaps not the thing to do. But I just thought someone might have an angle on things other than to say it is all rubbish and that's it. I think that there is plenty of evidence for some strange unidentified things flying in the sky. Something made the Chinese worried enough to close the airport the other day. Funny they have not come out and said all the photos were faked yet and it was a blimp! Somethings in the sky cannot be explained and cannot be said to be just fakers. They would have to be faking for many hours as these things are seen all ove rthe world by hundreds of people every day. Some I think are made by us. There are three astronauhts now who confirm that alien spacecraft exist. Neil Armstrong is one, Buzz Aldrin is another. Recently Gordon Cooper talked about it at length on the radio. It is funny how this is not accepted by people as being significant. There are other sightings by astronauts too. I think this is quite compelling witness testimony?
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It's all balderdash. Don't even need to look at the link to know that.
Oh, and what you saw was either a star or a planet or a plane (or other human artefact)
What extraordinary conviction you have...How can you know what I saw and what it was?
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Originally Posted by Montmorency View Post
...Maybe some clips are fake, who knows. But all? Which ones do you think are real? I find the clips in broad daylight are hard to explain...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfqDVP_0O0c
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I can make a hat, or a brooch, or a Pterodactyl...

Seriously, what is your take on this video?
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Originally Posted by Montmorency View Post
OK, I can see that posting a link to a longer length video is perhaps not the thing to do. But I just thought someone might have an angle on things other than to say it is all rubbish and that's it...
There are three conclusions to be made: (1) It's rubbish; (2) It's real; and (3) Someone has too much time on their hands. I choose 1 and 3, for the win.
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I think that there is plenty of evidence for some strange unidentified things flying in the sky.
What you think is irrelevant to assessing the validity of your claims.
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Something made the Chinese worried enough to close the airport the other day.
One of their own military missile tests.
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Funny they have not come out and said all the photos were faked yet and it was a blimp!
"They" are all experts, with real jobs, so "They" are probably too busy doing important stuff to waste their time reviewing hashed-up episodes of "Lost in Space".
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Somethings in the sky cannot be explained, and cannot be said to be just fakers.
Everything in the sky can be explained; but not everybody will believe an explanation that does not involve fantasy creatures. Is it not enough to marvel are the wonders of the heavens without also imagining a conspiracy behind them?
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They would have to be faking for many hours as these things are seen all over the world by hundreds of people every day.
... most of whom wouldn't know a satellite from the rings around Uranus
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Some I think are made by us.
Most are natural events and objects, the rest are man-made.
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There are three astronauts now who confirm that alien spacecraft exist.
Where is their evidence?
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Neil Armstrong is one, Buzz Aldrin is another. Recently Gordon Cooper talked about it at length on the radio.
Has-beens seeking to augment their pensions by pandering to the UFOnies who see extraterrestrials behind every cloud and a conspiracy where there is a lack of evidence.
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It is funny how this is not accepted by people as being significant.
There is nothing funny about thinking people seeing nothing significant. What is funny is how many ignorant, open-minded people are willing to believe anything told to them by other ignorant, open-minded people.
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There are other sightings by astronauts too.
Links, please?
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I think this is quite compelling witness testimony?
What you think does not validate your claim any more than what some octogenarian space-case might think. Follow the money to who is paying those bubble-heads to relate their science-fantasy stories to the National Enquirer crowd.
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Originally Posted by Montmorency View Post
Something made the Chinese worried enough to close the airport the other day. Funny they have not come out and said all the photos were faked yet and it was a blimp!
Do you feel the Chinese government has a duty to seek out and examine all the photos people stick on the internet and tell you whether they're fake or not?
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Originally Posted by Avindair View Post
I can make a hat, or a brooch, or a Pterodactyl...

Seriously, what is your take on this video?
Ahahaha, I was just coming in to post this...
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There are three astronauhts now who confirm that alien spacecraft exist. Neil Armstrong is one, Buzz Aldrin is another.
Buzz Aldrin is a talkative kind of guy. Can you humour me by providing a link to Aldrin confirming that alien spacecraft exist (rather than, for example, his describing a piece of unidentified space junk seen from Apollo 11)?

I did try Googling, but the stuff I found made claims like "Buzz Adrin admits aliens exist" but turned out merely to refer to his anecdote about an unidentified item spotted travelling along with Apollo 11.
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There are three astronauhts now who confirm that alien spacecraft exist. Neil Armstrong is one, Buzz Aldrin is another.
Bull st!

Neil, Buzz and Michael never left Earth.
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Heh, you can tell Bell doesn't live near Buzz.
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Originally Posted by Jack by the hedge View Post
Buzz Aldrin is a talkative kind of guy. Can you humour me by providing a link to Aldrin confirming that alien spacecraft exist (rather than, for example, his describing a piece of unidentified space junk seen from Apollo 11)?

I did try Googling, but the stuff I found made claims like "Buzz Adrin admits aliens exist" but turned out merely to refer to his anecdote about an unidentified item spotted travelling along with Apollo 11.
Buzz nipped the UFO nonsense right in the bud on Larry King...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7RUwbqrO08

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One of my first UFO questions stated that Apollo astronaut Buzz Aldrin had reported that he and his crew members saw a UFO on Apollo 11. “Edwin Aldrin recently came out in a special on the Science Channel and stated that the astronauts aboard Apollo 11 all saw unidentified objects which seemed to have been following them. He also mentions that they were briefed not to talk about what they had seen. What does NASA have to say in response to this? What were those objects they all saw?”

To get a straight story, I called Buzz Aldrin, who was happy to explain what had happened. He said that the quotations were taken out of context and did not convey the intended meaning. After the Apollo 11 crew verified that the object they were seeing was not the SIVB upper stage, which was about 6000 miles away at that time, they concluded that they were probably seeing one of the panels from the separation of the spacecraft from the upper stage. These panels were not tracked from Earth and were likely much closer to the Apollo spacecraft. They chose not to discuss this on the open communications channel since they were concerned that their comments might be misinterpreted (as they are being now). All of this explanation about the panels was cut from the broadcast interview, thus giving the impression that the Apollo 11 crew had seen a UFO. Buzz said that he was angry about the deceptive editing and asked them to correct this reversal of what he had said, but they refused.
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Heh, you can tell Bell doesn't live near Buzz.
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Originally Posted by David Morrison, Senior Scientist of the NASA Astrobiology Institute
"To get a straight story, I called Buzz Aldrin, who was happy to explain what had happened. He said that the quotations were taken out of context and did not convey the intended meaning. After the Apollo 11 crew verified that the object they were seeing was not the SIVB upper stage, which was about 6000 miles away at that time, they concluded that they were probably seeing one of the panels from the separation of the spacecraft from the upper stage. These panels were not tracked from Earth and were likely much closer to the Apollo spacecraft. They chose not to discuss this on the open communications channel since they were concerned that their comments might be misinterpreted (as they are being now). All of this explanation about the panels was cut from the broadcast interview, thus giving the impression that the Apollo 11 crew had seen a UFO. Buzz said that he was angry about the deceptive editing and asked them to correct this reversal of what he had said, but they refused. Buzz Aldrin, who was happy to explain what had happened. He said that the quotations were taken out of context and did not convey the intended meaning. After the Apollo 11 crew verified that the object they were seeing was not the SIVB upper stage, which was about 6000 miles away at that time, they concluded that they were probably seeing one of the panels from the separation of the spacecraft from the upper stage. These panels were not tracked from Earth and were likely much closer to the Apollo spacecraft. They chose not to discuss this on the open communications channel since they were concerned that their comments might be misinterpreted (as they are being now). All of this explanation about the panels was cut from the broadcast interview, thus giving the impression that the Apollo 11 crew had seen a UFO. Buzz said that he was angry about the deceptive editing and asked them to correct this reversal of what he had said, but they refused."
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...Maybe some clips are fake, who knows. But all? Which ones do you think are real? I find the clips in broad daylight are hard to explain...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfqDVP_0O0c


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