Dr. Jeffrey Meldrum - America's "Bigfoot Professor" - Part Deux

Gilbert Syndrome · 23rd February 2020, 08:15 AM

Originally Posted by Northern Lights

Our group is participating in a sasquatch conference and one of the speakers will be Dr. Meldrum. So not only will I be meeting him for the first time, I will be picking him up from the airport and driving him to the conference location which is about 2 1/2 hours away.

I understand he is not held in high regard on this forum but I don't share that sentiment. I do respect the man and am truly looking forward to meeting and being able to talk to him without interruption.

My question to this group is if you had this type of access, what would you ask him? If I think you have a serious and legitimate question, I will ask him and reply back with what he said.

The conference is 6 weeks out so let me know. Obviously I'm going to ignore all BS questions but am interested in hearing your thoughts.

Well, the man's reputation is as laughable as they come. A scientist who misuses his trade and bends the truth, hiding behind his tenure while peddling fraudulent evidence and supporting fraudulent claims.

It's not BS questions you need to ignore when it comes to good ol' Jeff, it's BS answers.

Thread continued from here.

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Gilbert Syndrome · 23rd February 2020, 08:26 AM

Originally Posted by rockysmith76

Whether you believe the Bigfootz is real or you don't, Meldrum sold out to being a "Celebrity" Bigfooter long ago, so yes, that does at least partially impact his "credibility.

A Mormon scientist who goes around the country selling obviously man-made Bigfoot casts to grown men in Harry Potter t-shirts. Literally no credibility involved.

Resume · 23rd February 2020, 08:58 PM

Originally Posted by Gilbert Syndrome

Well, the man's reputation is as laughable as they come. A scientist who misuses his trade and bends the truth, hiding behind his tenure while peddling fraudulent evidence and supporting fraudulent claims.

It's not BS questions you need to ignore when it comes to good ol' Jeff, it's BS answers.

What other questions could there be of a BS shoveller shovelling BS about a BS subject?

Cervelo · 24th February 2020, 10:12 AM

Originally Posted by Resume

What other questions could there be of a BS shoveller shovelling BS about a BS subject?

The real question is why does someone act as a shill for the BS'er. What is the mindset of someone who has a desire to protect the BS'er, it's very much a cult like behavior.

Drewbot · 13th October 2020, 08:06 AM

Does anyone remember this lovely bit from Dr. Meldrum?
https://beta.capeia.com/zoology/2017...-north-america

The Shrike had some nice comments on the article.

jerrywayne · 13th October 2020, 02:23 PM

Originally Posted by Drewbot

Does anyone remember this lovely bit from Dr. Meldrum?
https://beta.capeia.com/zoology/2017...-north-america

The Shrike had some nice comments on the article.

I thought both The Shrike and Dr. Meldrum scored some points in their exchange. Dr. Meldrum's position as he articulates it: "There is much compelling evidence, stopping short of "conclusive," which as I have always acknowledged, would require a type specimen." The problem here is that Dr. Meldrum behaves as if that "compelling evidence" is conclusive (notice he puts the word conclusive in quotes as if to diminish it). He behaves as if he hasn't any real doubt in a field that requires substantial doubt to be credible.

CORed · 16th October 2020, 10:30 AM

Originally Posted by jerrywayne

I thought both The Shrike and Dr. Meldrum scored some points in their exchange. Dr. Meldrum's position as he articulates it: "There is much compelling evidence, stopping short of "conclusive," which as I have always acknowledged, would require a type specimen." The problem here is that Dr. Meldrum behaves as if that "compelling evidence" is conclusive (notice he puts the word conclusive in quotes as if to diminish it). He behaves as if he hasn't any real doubt in a field that requires substantial doubt to be credible.

I consider the lack of a type speciment to be pretty conclusive evidence of non-existence There is simply no way that such a creature could exist in North America without leaving a trace.

Resume · 16th October 2020, 10:35 AM

Originally Posted by CORed

I consider the lack of a type speciment to be pretty conclusive evidence of non-existence There is simply no way that such a creature could exist in North America without leaving a trace.

Absence of evidence is evidence of absence where evidence is necessarily expected.

The Shrike · 18th October 2020, 11:38 AM

Ah, the Meldrum version of the Gish Gallop, enabled by naive editors and assclown fanbois.

Drewbot · 20th January 2021, 12:15 PM

OK who laid down the London Trackway?

Did we ever find out?

I can't remember.

https://www.isu.edu/media/libraries/...way_final-.pdf

mysteriousmonsters65 · 2nd February 2021, 10:53 AM

"Dr. Jeffrey Meldrum, Ph.D. - Idaho State University, Associate Professor of Anatomy & Anthropology, Adjunct Associate Professor, Dept. of Anthropology, Dept. of Occupational and Physical Therapy, Affiliate Curator, Idaho Museum of Natural History." Phew ! Now that's a hell of a title. I wonder if he has to type it on his cell phone or a note pad and pull it out and recite when asked about his credentials at any random person asking his qualifications.

rockinkt · 4th February 2021, 12:08 AM

Originally Posted by mysteriousmonsters65

"Dr. Jeffrey Meldrum, Ph.D. - Idaho State University, Associate Professor of Anatomy & Anthropology, Adjunct Associate Professor, Dept. of Anthropology, Dept. of Occupational and Physical Therapy, Affiliate Curator, Idaho Museum of Natural History." Phew ! Now that's a hell of a title. I wonder if he has to type it on his cell phone or a note pad and pull it out and recite when asked about his credentials at any random person asking his qualifications.

It should read: "Dr. Jeffrey Meldrum Ph.D. - Flock Leader, Department of Quacks."

23rd February 2020, 08:26 AM	#2
Gilbert Syndrome Philosopher Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Liverpool, UK Posts: 7,279	Originally Posted by rockysmith76 Whether you believe the Bigfootz is real or you don't, Meldrum sold out to being a "Celebrity" Bigfooter long ago, so yes, that does at least partially impact his "credibility. A Mormon scientist who goes around the country selling obviously man-made Bigfoot casts to grown men in Harry Potter t-shirts. Literally no credibility involved.
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24th February 2020, 10:12 AM	#4
Cervelo Graduate Poster Join Date: Oct 2014 Posts: 1,516	Originally Posted by Resume What other questions could there be of a BS shoveller shovelling BS about a BS subject? The real question is why does someone act as a shill for the BS'er. What is the mindset of someone who has a desire to protect the BS'er, it's very much a cult like behavior.
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13th October 2020, 08:06 AM	#5
Drewbot Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 7,345	Does anyone remember this lovely bit from Dr. Meldrum? https://beta.capeia.com/zoology/2017...-north-america The Shrike had some nice comments on the article.
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20th January 2021, 12:15 PM	#10
Drewbot Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 7,345	OK who laid down the London Trackway? Did we ever find out? I can't remember. https://www.isu.edu/media/libraries/...way_final-.pdf
Drewbot Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 7,345	__________________ "I dont call that evolution, I call that the survival of the fittest." - Bulletmaker "I thought skeptics would usually point towards a hoax rather than a group being duped." - makaya325 Kit is not a skeptic. He is a former Bigfoot believer that changed his position to that of non believer.- Crowlogic

4th February 2021, 12:08 AM	#12
rockinkt Master Poster Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 2,092	Originally Posted by mysteriousmonsters65 "Dr. Jeffrey Meldrum, Ph.D. - Idaho State University, Associate Professor of Anatomy & Anthropology, Adjunct Associate Professor, Dept. of Anthropology, Dept. of Occupational and Physical Therapy, Affiliate Curator, Idaho Museum of Natural History." Phew ! Now that's a hell of a title. I wonder if he has to type it on his cell phone or a note pad and pull it out and recite when asked about his credentials at any random person asking his qualifications. It should read: "Dr. Jeffrey Meldrum Ph.D. - Flock Leader, Department of Quacks."
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23rd February 2020, 08:58 PM	#3
Resume Troublesome Passenger Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 18,814	Originally Posted by Gilbert Syndrome Well, the man's reputation is as laughable as they come. A scientist who misuses his trade and bends the truth, hiding behind his tenure while peddling fraudulent evidence and supporting fraudulent claims. It's not BS questions you need to ignore when it comes to good ol' Jeff, it's BS answers. What other questions could there be of a BS shoveller shovelling BS about a BS subject?

13th October 2020, 02:23 PM	#6
jerrywayne Graduate Poster Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 1,083	Originally Posted by Drewbot Does anyone remember this lovely bit from Dr. Meldrum? https://beta.capeia.com/zoology/2017...-north-america The Shrike had some nice comments on the article. I thought both The Shrike and Dr. Meldrum scored some points in their exchange. Dr. Meldrum's position as he articulates it: "There is much compelling evidence, stopping short of "conclusive," which as I have always acknowledged, would require a type specimen." The problem here is that Dr. Meldrum behaves as if that "compelling evidence" is conclusive (notice he puts the word conclusive in quotes as if to diminish it). He behaves as if he hasn't any real doubt in a field that requires substantial doubt to be credible.

16th October 2020, 10:30 AM	#7
CORed Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Central City, Colorado, USA Posts: 10,079	Originally Posted by jerrywayne I thought both The Shrike and Dr. Meldrum scored some points in their exchange. Dr. Meldrum's position as he articulates it: "There is much compelling evidence, stopping short of "conclusive," which as I have always acknowledged, would require a type specimen." The problem here is that Dr. Meldrum behaves as if that "compelling evidence" is conclusive (notice he puts the word conclusive in quotes as if to diminish it). He behaves as if he hasn't any real doubt in a field that requires substantial doubt to be credible. I consider the lack of a type speciment to be pretty conclusive evidence of non-existence There is simply no way that such a creature could exist in North America without leaving a trace.

16th October 2020, 10:35 AM	#8
Resume Troublesome Passenger Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 18,814	Originally Posted by CORed I consider the lack of a type speciment to be pretty conclusive evidence of non-existence There is simply no way that such a creature could exist in North America without leaving a trace. Absence of evidence is evidence of absence where evidence is necessarily expected.

18th October 2020, 11:38 AM	#9
The Shrike Philosopher Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Oklahoma, USA Posts: 5,147	Ah, the Meldrum version of the Gish Gallop, enabled by naive editors and assclown fanbois.

2nd February 2021, 10:53 AM	#11
mysteriousmonsters65 New Blood Join Date: Jan 2021 Posts: 10	"Dr. Jeffrey Meldrum, Ph.D. - Idaho State University, Associate Professor of Anatomy & Anthropology, Adjunct Associate Professor, Dept. of Anthropology, Dept. of Occupational and Physical Therapy, Affiliate Curator, Idaho Museum of Natural History." Phew ! Now that's a hell of a title. I wonder if he has to type it on his cell phone or a note pad and pull it out and recite when asked about his credentials at any random person asking his qualifications.