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So, you don't know?
You don't know why the universe behaves in a way opposite of what your model predicts and yet you have the arrogance to claim that THAT model should be used instead of the model that does not require nature to behave opposite to the observed way? As for your second question, why should I explain something that is only a problem in the EU 'model'? Why don't YOU explain how we can observe positive protons and negative electrons moving in the same direction without interacting, when according to the EU model this is impossible? Because until you manage that, the rest of your comments are completely baseless. In effect you are arguing whether griffin feather or dragon sinew wands give the best magic, while at the same time admitting you cannot prove magic exists. |
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You will find that has to do with the energetics involved. We are dealing with a collisionless plasma, that is travelling at ~ 400 km/s. Why would they recombine? That is not to say that recombination doesn't happen ever. However, in my (admittedly limited) understanding of the subject, you will need a colder (i.e. slower), denser plasma.
Recombination can and does happen at comets, where the outflowing ions are slowed down and pile up at the diamagnetic cavity boundary. You can go read all about that in the literature. |
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I see, and yet you keep refusing to explain your model.
So once again, you EU model predicts something that is the exact opposite of what we observe in nature. Since explaining is so simple, would you care to explain how that works? And if you can't explain why that is, can you then explain why you keep clinging to a clearly faulty model? |
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“No rock. Any charge separation is limited. The electric field is pointing in the wrong direction. Currents are doing nothing.” Jonesdave116. “The 'electric comet' is physically IMPOSSIBLE to model using mainstream science! PERIOD! True story! End of story!” Indagator |
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“No rock. Any charge separation is limited. The electric field is pointing in the wrong direction. Currents are doing nothing.” Jonesdave116. “The 'electric comet' is physically IMPOSSIBLE to model using mainstream science! PERIOD! True story! End of story!” Indagator |
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Ah, that explains it, you do not accept measured quantities. Yes, if you refuse to accept nature the way it is, then I guess the EU is an acceptable form of magic.
Let me guess, you believe Gingervytes when he claims rockets do not work, which is why we, in your belief system, cannot measure the solar wind? Or are you part of the 'Every space agency lies because reasons' crowd? |
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And, despite repeated requests, you again fail to give us your mechanism. You don't have one, do you? Is it the idiot Scott's electric field? Somebody needs to explain to that clown that the solar wind is composed of electrons and ions. Opposite charges, see? Electric field sends them in opposite directions. Does that fit with observation? No, it doesn't. So, having disposed of that particular schoolboy error, perhaps Sol88's mechanism can finally see the light of day. Or he could just admit that he doesn't have one.
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The insane insults of the deceased Michael Francis A'Hearn by Sol88 linking him with demented dogma, etc. Sol88's usual inane gibberish ignoring his demented dogma about comets and the Sun. Sol88's usual insane ignorance - the solar wind is ions and electrons being blown off the Sun! We have valid physics to create the solar wind. Start with the simple fact that hot stuff ejects matter (look at an analogy of steam from boiling water). Thermal energy alone ejects gas, ions and electrons from the Sun. This is then accelerated by unknown mechanisms, e.g. interactions with the even hotter corona. His demented cult just has an insane obsession with electric fields which cannot produce any solar wind. This is high school physics. Electrons go one way in an electric field. Protons go the opposite way in an electric field. |
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No, I was not wrong. You were. Remember? You wanted an ambipolar field that is accelerating ions to also accelerate electrons! Duh! Which just goes to show that you have no idea about the relevant science. You want papers on ion and electron acceleration? I'm sure I could probably dig up something from Halley, or that sort of time period. You have still not got a single thing right about comets. You still do not have a mechanism. Nor evidence. Nor science. All a bit sad, really. And pathetic.
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Gravitational waves are observed. Tough luck. Fusion is observed. Tough luck. And what the hell have currents got to do with the Sun? Or Jupiter? Nothing to do with EU garbage. Currents don't explain neutrinos, for the hard of thinking. Nor do they explain the solar wind. So if you've got a point (unlikely) then explain the science of it in detail. Otherwise it is just more of the same insane word salad that we expect from you.
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Not the equally measured quantities I was talking about, but then you know that because you seek to avoid answering the actual question as that would force you to admit that the very basis of your so-called model is wrong.
And your modus operandi when you reach that point is to flail at anything else you do not understand in the hope it can distract. We see electrons and protons leaving the sun. We see the moving with the same acceleration in the same direction. Your model predicts that this would not happen. Therefore the entire basis for EU is wrong, and there is no need to focus on minutiae. That fact that you try to hide this simple fact under mountains of excrement does not change that fact. |
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Yeah, maybe. But I’m still sticking to comets are charged rocks discharging in the solar plasma. Simple. After all our understanding is evolving Couple papers on the horizon that WILL freshen the thread up a little. Mainstream discovering the Happy days for the EU. |
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You think I'm the only person that believes it? Lol. Stop being dim. Nobody that matters disagrees with it. If you think otherwise, then link to their papers. I want to see the 'science'. Forget about unqualified clowns like Thornhill. Real scientists, with real qualifications. That don't believe Earth used to orbit Saturn.
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Oh, and there we go again - another innumerate EU mythologist, who is so ignorant of maths that it appears to be magic to him! Sad. Why do these clueless Velikovskians seem, almost without fail, to be clueless at maths? I guess it's a pre-requisite when your religion is built on physics defying impossibilities. Still, it does seem to be a common thread with these cultists.
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The usual insane lies, delusions, insults, etc. already addressed over the last 10 years.
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Wonder if mainstream can explain it??? Researchers recreate the sun's solar wind and plasma 'burps' on Earth
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Otherwise another SAFIRE experiment. Oh poor mainstream... did they use thermonuclear reactions I wonder??? Nope good ‘ol ELECTRICITY. where is the power point on the Sun? ![]() |
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A laboratory model for the Parker spiral and magnetized stellar winds
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