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Old 15th October 2019, 07:57 PM   #1561
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Originally Posted by pittsburghjoe View Post
GR only deals with objects that have a physical state.
16 October 2019 pittsburghjoe: Delusions about GR and the usual "unify" stupidity.

GR deals with absolutely no objects at all (vacuum solutions) as he has been told several times and deals with mass, energy or pressure, not vague "objects".
There are no electrons in GR.
There are no protons in GR.
There are no atoms in GR.
There are no planets in GR.
There are no galaxies in GR.
The standard cosmology GR solution has the universe filled with an isotropic, homogenous mass density.

Stupidity that ignorant gibberish that has no QM or GR is a theory of everything that unifies QM and GR.

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Old 15th October 2019, 08:01 PM   #1562
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Exclamation 11 items of ignorance, fantasy and delusion by pittsburghjoe on 16 October 2019

  1. 16 October 2019 pittsburghjoe: Repeats stupidity of a "1 x 10-18g" (about the mass of a virus) pulled out of thin air.
  2. 16 October 2019 pittsburghjoe: Irrelevant ignorance about abiogenesisand usual "virus"/"physical state" delusions.
  3. 16 October 2019 pittsburghjoe: Irrelevant "Maybe there is a god(s)" fantasies about spacetime and life.
  4. 16 October 2019 pittsburghjoe: Stupid gibberish when everyone knows the evidence is that dark matter is non baryonic particles.
  5. 16 October 2019 pittsburghjoe: A "new constant" delusion when all he has is a number pulled out of thin air.
  6. 16 October 2019 pittsburghjoe: Dark matter insanity when we have measured dark matter being physical !
  7. 16 October 2019 pittsburghjoe: Lies about dark matter and stupidity that things we cannot see are not real.
  8. 16 October 2019 pittsburghjoe: A mind blowing delusion - dark mater is real because we detect dark matter .
  9. 16 October 2019 pittsburghjoe: A "I know I'm close" delusion when all he has is abysmal ignorance and gibberish.
  10. 16 October 2019 pittsburghjoe: The logical fallacy of circular reasoning, a delusion and a lie.
  11. 16 October 2019 pittsburghjoe: Delusions about GR and the usual "unify" stupidity.
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Old 15th October 2019, 08:05 PM   #1563
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Originally Posted by pittsburghjoe View Post
GR only deals with objects that have a physical state.
GR doesn't care about objects at all.
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Old 15th October 2019, 08:23 PM   #1565
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Originally Posted by pittsburghjoe View Post
Does anyone else find is weird how next-to-impossible it is for life to have started? If there is a creator/code writer of the universe, it would seem it could use the scale under a virus to seed life using his own language and then letting this world give it a physical state.
It seems to me that given the billions of galaxies and billions of stars and planets in those galaxies, that the probability of life starting somewhere is actually inevitable.

And had been proven to be so.
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Old 15th October 2019, 10:09 PM   #1566
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Originally Posted by pittsburghjoe View Post
1 x 10-18g is the smallest amount of mass gravity can automatically assign a physical state. It is around the size of a virus.
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Does gravity affect atoms?
"Gravity affects atoms the same way it affects all other matter. Every atom creates its own gravitational field which attracts all other matter in the universe."

Are you directly claiming individual atoms are not physical despite having mass and being affected by gravity?
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Yes. They have to have a physical state to be physical/real.
So you are now claiming hydrogen atoms, which weigh 1.66 x 10(-24)g aren't real?

Hydrogen Atoms Manipulated Below the Surface of a Palladium Crystal
https://science.psu.edu/news-and-eve...iss12-2005.htm
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Old Yesterday, 01:22 AM   #1567
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Originally Posted by pittsburghjoe View Post
I wasn't talking to you.

My scientific symbol for the minimum amount of mass will be a cursive capital J
I call Poe
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Originally Posted by hecd2 View Post
I call Poe
I agree: definitely Poe.
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Originally Posted by steenkh View Post
I agree: definitely Poe.
It is hidden in his username. :-)
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Originally Posted by pittsburghjoe View Post
Does anyone else find is weird how next-to-impossible it is for life to have started? If there is a creator/code writer of the universe, it would seem it could use the scale under a virus to seed life using his own language and then letting this world give it a physical state.
Originally Posted by pittsburghjoe View Post
Maybe there is a god that wrote the analog spacetime simulation and another responsible for life.
Entering mythology now? You know we here are rather pragmatic.
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Old Yesterday, 04:40 AM   #1571
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Originally Posted by pittsburghjoe View Post
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Edited for rule 0 and rule 12.
I SAID AUTOMATICALLY, by nature, not someone causing a physical state change
Consider the kinetic energy of a single proton traveling very close to the speed of light, say 99.9999%. If that proton were to hit you it would feel like a baseball traveling at a speed of 60 miles an hour. You see (I hope) nature does not have an arbitrary point were something is matter, therefore you have not established a new physical constant with your virus standard. One more thing you misunderstand. Nature does not distinguish the interference caused by a scientist taking a peek vs nature doing it naturally.

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Old Today, 05:26 AM   #1572
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Do even read what I write? I already said observation is dead. That proton isn't physical until it hits you or was given a physical state.
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Old Today, 05:27 AM   #1573
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Originally Posted by phunk View Post
GR doesn't care about objects at all.
It cares about whatever has a physical state.
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Originally Posted by EHocking View Post
It seems to me that given the billions of galaxies and billions of stars and planets in those galaxies, that the probability of life starting somewhere is actually inevitable.

And had been proven to be so.
What has been proven is how impossible it is for proteins to form ..to start the first living cell.
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Originally Posted by pittsburghjoe View Post
What has been proven is how impossible it is for proteins to form ..to start the first living cell.
Who dat?

So far the only thing proven in this particular thread is your knowledge of science is weak and your communication skills are worse.
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Old Today, 10:24 AM   #1576
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GR deals with what has a physical state.
Somewhere around 1 x 10-18g is a new constant. It is the minimum amount of mass necessary to Automatically have a physical state. Of course objects smaller can be physical/real, but only after they have a physical state (sometimes the final panel wave collapse).

Uncollapsed(stateless | unphysical) Quantum Waves + State(Matter Field or wave collapse) = Physical Matter

Just because something has mass doesn't make it physical/real. Observation is dead ..the question is if a physical state was turned on or not.
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Thumbs down Usual delusion about physical objects (protons) not being physical

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18 October 2019 pittsburghjoe: Usual delusion about physical objects (protons) not being physical.
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Old Today, 03:45 PM   #1578
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Thumbs down Usual delusion about GR which has vacuum solutions (no physical objects at all).

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18 October 2019 pittsburghjoe: Usual delusion about GR which has vacuum solutions (no physical objects at all).
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Thumbs down A deluded "proven is how impossible it is for proteins to form" lie

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18 October 2019 pittsburghjoe: A deluded "What has been proven is how impossible it is for proteins to form ..to start the first living cell" lie.

Abiogenesis lists the plausible chemistry for proteins to form and living cells to form. The 1952 Miller–Urey experiment demonstrated that most amino acids are easily created in the conditions of the early Earth. Proteins are formed from amino acids.
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Old Today, 03:54 PM   #1580
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18 October 2019 pittsburghjoe: Usual GR, a mass pulled out of thin air, insane "equation" delusions and "Observation is dead" insanity.

We observe that his posts are very ignorant and deluded so observation is alive and well ! Mores seriously his delusions are based on observations such as the double slit experiment.

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Old Today, 04:12 PM   #1581
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Originally Posted by pittsburghjoe View Post
Air has a physical state from bouncing off each other.
Air is oxygen and nitrogen atoms, both of which weigh less than your invented arbitrary threshold physical constant of 1 x 10-18g.

Are you now claiming air is physical or non physical?
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Do you know what the word "Automatically" means? Double slit with matter waves have to be done in a vacuum for a reason. Decoherence events are everywhere on earth. A physical state is very common to have here.
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I guess I should start saying the minimum mass "in a vacuum".

Is my "physical state" the same thing as "decoherence"?
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Double slit with matter waves have to be done in a vacuum for a reason. ...
18 October 2019 pittsburghjoe: A wrong reason to address "matter waves" gibberish.

The reason that most particles need a vacuum in the double slit experiment is so they physically get to the silts and beyond ! An electron moving through air is quickly absorbed or scattered by the air. The same for any charged particle. Atoms and molecules are worse - their size alone says there will be sizable scattering. They also tend to be charged so that they can be shoot toward the slits.
Double-slit experiment
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In modern physics, the double-slit experiment is a demonstration that light and matter can display characteristics of both classically defined waves and particles; moreover, it displays the fundamentally probabilistic nature of quantum mechanical phenomena. The experiment was first performed with light by Thomas Young in 1801. In 1927, Davisson and Germer demonstrated that electrons show the same behavior, which was later extended to atoms and molecules.[1][2]
My emphasis added - no vacuum needed for photons (particles) and no matter for imaginary "matter waves".
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Originally Posted by pittsburghjoe View Post
I guess ...
18 October 2019 pittsburghjoe: A delusion that guesses and very ignorant questions are science

Mass is mass whether the massive object is in vacuum or in air.
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Mass is both a property of a physical body and a measure of its resistance to acceleration (a change in its state of motion) when a net force is applied.[1] An object's mass also determines the strength of its gravitational attraction to other bodies.
A photon always has a mass of 0. An electron always has a mass of 9.10938356(11)×10^−31 kg. A 1 kilogram brick always a mass of 1 kilogram! etc.

His "physical state" delusion is not the same as any textbook physics, such as decoherence
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Quantum decoherence is the loss of quantum coherence. In quantum mechanics, particles such as electrons are described by a wave function, a mathematical representation of the quantum state of a system; a probabilistic interpretation of the wave function is used to explain various quantum effects. As long as there exists a definite phase relation between different states, the system is said to be coherent. Coherence is preserved under the laws of quantum physics, and this is necessary for the functioning of quantum computers. If a quantum system is perfectly isolated, it would be impossible to manipulate or investigate it. If it is not perfectly isolated, for example during a measurement, coherence is shared with the environment and appears to be lost with time, a process called quantum decoherence. As a result of this process, quantum behavior is apparently lost, just as energy appears to be lost by friction in classical mechanics.

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Light has a physical state also ..it's when it is a photon.
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Originally Posted by pittsburghjoe View Post
Do you know what the word "Automatically" means?
Yes and I'm trying to determine what your use of the word is.

What event occurs in physics that defines your "automatic" change threshold ?

1) One hydrogen atom 1.66 x 10(-24)g
2) One carbon atom 1.992 x 10(-23)g
3) 100,000 CO2 molecules
4) "A virus" (180,000 atoms) (your arbitrary cut off point) 1 x 10(-18)g.
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18 October 2019 pittsburghjoe: A "when it is a photon" delusion - light is always photons.
This is the definition of a photon - "the quantum of the electromagnetic field including electromagnetic radiation such as light and radio waves, and the force carrier for the electromagnetic force (even when static via virtual particles)."

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A virus is never going to be in superposition ..in a vacuum.

This threshold marries the theories of the large and small. If something isn't physical ..it isn't real.
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A virus is never going to be in superposition ..in a vacuum.
What about half a virus? What about a prion?

Please show us your mathematical workings to obtain your threshold of 1 x 10(-18)g.
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A virus ....
18 October 2019 pittsburghjoe: Repeats his virus delusion.

Quantum superposition
As he has been told many times, QM says that anything can be in superposition. The only question is whether the superposition is measurable. Electrons were the limit. Then protons. Then 810 atom molecules was the limit. Then a bigger molecule. A double slit experiment using a virus is a technological challenge not his delusion of a absolute limit with no justification.

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