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Old 8th January 2020, 10:39 AM   #1761
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Originally Posted by SuburbanTurkey View Post
He is claiming medical disability related to PTSD from the event in which he gunned downed an unarmed man crawling on his hands and knees, begging for his life.

I am astounded by how grotesque this is.
The funny thing is that I was looking for a different cop who got disability for shooting an unarmed man.

https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/...ty/2703702001/

"A former Brown Deer police officer who faced felony charges for shooting an unarmed man in the back is collecting more than $57,000 a year tax-free through duty disability insurance.

Devon Kraemer, 30, could receive the payments for life.

Kraemer was not convicted of aggravated battery because the jury in her February 2018 trial could not agree on a verdict. Two months later, Milwaukee County District Attorney John Chisholm said his office would not retry the case."
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Old 8th January 2020, 11:39 AM   #1762
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Originally Posted by SuburbanTurkey View Post
All that matters is our hero police made it home safe at the end of their shift. #bluelivesmatter.

It's insane the cowardly defenses we allow our police to make with straight faces. A man, on his hands and knees, tried to pull up his pants while sobbing and got shot by a cop with a rifle. It would be too dangerous for our brave police to wait the extra half-second to determine whether or not this was any actual danger. They only had him down on the floor with two guns pointed at him, couldn't risk it.

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Who was only trying to pull up his trousers in order to comply with the cop's mutually contradictory orders, if it's the case I remember.
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Old 8th January 2020, 12:08 PM   #1763
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Originally Posted by jimbob View Post
Who was only trying to pull up his trousers in order to comply with the cop's mutually contradictory orders, if it's the case I remember.
Of course it is natural for a cop to panic when confronted by a man in shorts, it is the job of the public to talk the panicking cop down without being shot of course. The killing of Philando Castile is a good example of how to properly and rationally talk down a panicking cop after they already killed your partner.
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Old 8th January 2020, 12:24 PM   #1764
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All these incidents just remind me of the absurd inversion of responsibility our society has in the US.

A legally armed civilian would be in jail for such a shooting. There is much less latitude for ordinary people to explain away unnecessary killings with the "I was in fear for my life" excuse. If you have a concealed weapons permit, you had better be sure before you pull the trigger.

Police, the agents of the state with extensive training, are allowed to be trigger happy ********. Any irregularity is an acceptable excuse to mag dump into an unarmed man.
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Old 8th January 2020, 03:40 PM   #1765
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Originally Posted by SuburbanTurkey View Post
All these incidents just remind me of the absurd inversion of responsibility our society has in the US.

A legally armed civilian would be in jail for such a shooting. There is much less latitude for ordinary people to explain away unnecessary killings with the "I was in fear for my life" excuse. If you have a concealed weapons permit, you had better be sure before you pull the trigger.

Police, the agents of the state with extensive training, are allowed to be trigger happy ********. Any irregularity is an acceptable excuse to mag dump into an unarmed man.
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Old 8th January 2020, 08:02 PM   #1766
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The worst case I am aware of (and thankfully, the law was changed afterwards) was a cop who claimed disability on the grounds that he was in prison for molesting his stepdaughter. He got it, because there weren't any rules against it (the disability claim, not the molestation) at the time. I'm really not going to give more details than that, because she deserves her life to be free of having that dredged up repeatedly.
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Old Yesterday, 04:54 PM   #1767
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Cleveland cop who urinated on girl as she waited for bus gets 4 1/2 years in prison

Nhiwatiwa was off-duty when he drove up to the girl as she waited for the bus to take her to school, and asked her if she needed a ride, court records say. The girl refused his offers and he drove away, court records say.

Nhiwatiwa then returned on foot, pulled out his cellphone and recorded himself as he urinated on her, according to court records.
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Old Yesterday, 05:07 PM   #1768
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Clearly a case of deep mental illness.
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Old Yesterday, 06:37 PM   #1769
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Highest-Paid Baltimore Cop Facing Decades in Prison for Crimes Caught on Camera

For years, Baltimore Police Sergeant Ethan Newberg racked up overtime hours by destroying innocent lives, a thug of a cop who made up the law as he went along, punishing citizens who dared question his tactics or record his arrests.

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Newberg, 49, was indicted after investigators reviewed 12-months of footage from his own body camera and determined he had established a “pattern and practice of harassment and intimidation." Many of those crimes were committed while milking the taxpayers on overtime, making $260,000 in the 2019 fiscal year, more than any other city employee including the police commissioner and mayor.

Now he is the 20th Baltimore police officer to have either been suspended, sentenced or arrested this year for crimes committed in the line of duty. Judging by his arrogance in the video, Newberg believed he was invincible. Untouchable. After 24 years on the force, nobody was going to tell him what to do.

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His behavior went unchecked until the arrival of the new police commissioner.
https://newsmaven.io/pinacnews/cops-...t06C2L1Cwvzz9g
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Originally Posted by William Parcher View Post
Clearly a case of deep mental illness.
Only as in the sense of all people who assault and abuse kids.

The reason the report belongs in this thread is that 1) he left the police force and surrended his licence for being a police officer in his state as part of his plea agreement and 2) the "Jones and Assistant Cuyahoga County Prosecutor Jennifer Driscoll criticized the Euclid police department for not taking the girl’s report seriously at first."
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Originally Posted by Puppycow View Post
And that was from a review of only his last 11 months of behaviour!

I would say he is an example of how "good cops" allow the bad ones amongst them to flourish however given this "... Earlier this month, Mosby announced she has a list containing the names of*more than 300 cops*from the Baltimore Police Department who has integrity or credibility issues..." it would seem to be more likely it is the police force that is "bad" not just individual officers. (Wikipedia has the police force having 2514 officers in 2017.)
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Originally Posted by Darat View Post
And that was from a review of only his last 11 months of behaviour!

I would say he is an example of how "good cops" allow the bad ones amongst them to flourish however given this "... Earlier this month, Mosby announced she has a list containing the names of*more than 300 cops*from the Baltimore Police Department who has integrity or credibility issues..." it would seem to be more likely it is the police force that is "bad" not just individual officers. (Wikipedia has the police force having 2514 officers in 2017.)
I'm going to emphasize this again, as a person who lives nearby: the complete untrustworthiness of the police has been known for years - when people don't trust police at all, witnesses will refuse to talk to them, and younger men often use violence to settle disputes. It's often outright ruinous for communities.

Meanwhile, in NYC, this tweet from the Police Benevolence Association attempting to rally people to bring back onerous bail may not have gone over the way they thought it would...
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A rare win for police accountability, officer who shot dog who was fully restrained on a leash and presented no danger was denied qualified immunity.

https://twitter.com/gabrielmalor/sta...69429767286789

A rare setback for the rampant phenomena of police killing dogs.

True justice would be criminal charges for the officer recklessly and needlessly opening fire and killing an animal for no good reason, but that's just a pipe dream. No QI from a civil suit is a start though.
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The train looked great. Maybe they should just pay the "taggers".

The story of Jax's death is heartbreaking, and I'm glad the cop was convicted. Maybe they need to start applying the same principles to people who are crawling on the floor and begging for their lives too.
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Surveillance footage of a police killing has been released. The officer involved had been cleared of any wrong doing by the department, despite the video clearly showing that the officer fired at the man's back, either while he was walking or running away.

The cop gunned him down while he was retreating. The cops are seem to be taking the line that since the man had been previously brandishing a firearm, shooting him down while fleeing was lawful.

Link to videos in article.

https://apnews.com/b2b8214a1311046760a681798ee7bcd2
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As I stated before, we are literally paying these people to brutalize us. It seems we should have more power to stop these situations since we're paying the bill, instead of waiting until someone high up in the police force decides to get around to it.
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As I stated before, we are literally paying these people to brutalize us. It seems we should have more power to stop these situations since we're paying the bill, instead of waiting until someone high up in the police force decides to get around to it.
You're proceeding on the unwarranted assumption that the majority of people are against police brutality. I don't think they are. I think a majority (or large plurality) accept it as long as it isn't committed against those about whom they personally care. My [non-scientific] evidence for this is that people look for ways to justify even acts of police brutality that are recorded with video and audio. They might even believe that police brutality is a key reason our society is as safe as it is.
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You're proceeding on the unwarranted assumption that the majority of people are against police brutality. I don't think they are. I think a majority (or large plurality) accept it as long as it isn't committed against those about whom they personally care. My [non-scientific] evidence for this is that people look for ways to justify even acts of police brutality that are recorded with video and audio. They might even believe that police brutality is a key reason our society is as safe as it is.
I agree that the majority or large plurality are okay (or don't have much of a problem) with the level of police brutality. But I have [quasi-scientific] evidence that it has to do with diversity and loss of social cohesion. The police don't have an affinity for the communities they are policing like they do in homogeneous countries. The people they police aren't like them and there's much less guilt for mistreating them. The police also have to take into account each race and ethnicity's predilection of criminal behavior. The more "diverse" the city, the more problems presented for the police. (Not a whole lot of gun violence in Boise, Idaho, similarly there are not many acid attacks in Bath, England.)

Other "diverse" countries have similar problems as I've mentioned several times before (but can't get anyone to comment for some reason.) Brazil has 6 times per capita the number of police killings and of course Brazil is multiracial, multiethnic with much fractionalization within the country - even more diverse than US. Mexico is also very diverse, and forget coming up with any numbers of police killings as they're mostly on the cartel's payroll. But it's safe to say even the US police - with all their problems - is way better than Mexico's.

This forum Europomorphizes everything. They can only see things through the lens of a white person living in a white country.
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