[Continuation] The Trump Presidency 11: Insert something funny - Page 3

GlennB · 14th November 2018, 02:04 PM

Originally Posted by carlitos

That's what she said.

**giggle**

Sideroxylon · 14th November 2018, 02:05 PM

Originally Posted by The Big Dog

Curious, the person who bitterly and falsely complained that I was bringing up matters from another thread is fraudulently attributing things I never said to me in the Stormy Daniels thread.

Pathetic.

Gaze upon what fraudulent mischief the leftists use to defend the indefensible.

Rumour is Huckster-Samders is moving on. They might be auditioning so give them a break.

P.J. Denyer · 14th November 2018, 02:17 PM

Originally Posted by varwoche

* She took his election victory proclamation seriously?

Maybe she has a better sense of humour than we give her credit for?

Hellbound · 14th November 2018, 02:20 PM

Originally Posted by Sideroxylon

Rumour is Huckster-Samders is moving on. They might be auditioning so give them a break.

I dunno, the post you responded to reminded me of several things.

Geese and ganders.

Pots and Kettles.

Motes and Planks.

That's without even looking beyond the allegation.

Minoosh · 14th November 2018, 02:24 PM

Originally Posted by The Big Dog

Ya see folks, I opened Melania up to an astounding continuation of blatantly misogynistic attacks.

Wow, there are no other words.

Seize this opportunity - anything's better than defending Trump, who also calls women names.

Minoosh · 14th November 2018, 02:25 PM

Originally Posted by Bob001

That might be the wierdest aspect of this. Any other First Lady would have had a private word with her husband, and the offensive staffer would have been quietly moved to another job with an official statement of gratitude for her great service. This is hard to understand.

I'm not sure they even speak to each other.

P.J. Denyer · 14th November 2018, 02:30 PM

Originally Posted by TheSupermeerkat

Trying to get in on his good side for post Brexit - I have the feeling that 52% of the Brits (who voted on the day) have F’d them~~selves~~ all in the A with Brexit and will need to keep the Dolt sweet.

Just saying as one of those who doesn't want to sacrifice the future for an imaginary past.

plague311 · 14th November 2018, 02:34 PM

Originally Posted by The Big Dog

Curious, the person who bitterly and falsely complained that I was bringing up matters from another thread is fraudulently attributing things I never said to me in the Stormy Daniels thread.

Pathetic.

Gaze upon what fraudulent mischief the leftists use to defend the indefensible.

I corrected my ******* error already. I know you never do that because you will never admit any mistake you make (it's a common trait of those who support Trump). So why don't you give it a rest?

You referred to her as nothing but "porn star", so you're technically correct.

You were just as misogynistic, if not more so, than anyone else around here. Never called her by her name, always "porn star", which you repeatedly used to objectify her. You called her a liar, insulted her and her lawyer at every turn. Now you want to come here crying about people being mean because it's the gold digger in the WH? Seriously, get over yourself.

ETA: Notice how I didn't use quotation marks around my post either? That's because it wasn't a direct quote. It's paraphrasing all of your statements while you try to play some feeble game of "gotcha" because you never used the word "whore". It's really sad and anyone with half a brain can see right through this latest fraud of a defense you're using.

The Big Dog · 14th November 2018, 02:40 PM

Huh, I guess I am the bad guy because a poster fraudulently misrepresented my posts in a completely different thread.

man, if totally made up claims can get people worked up, think what actual misogynistic attacks like those we have seen today in this thread would do.

Oh right, nothing. So it goes

plague311 · 14th November 2018, 02:41 PM

Originally Posted by The Big Dog

Huh, I guess I am the bad guy because a poster fraudulently misrepresented my posts in a completely different thread.

man, if totally made up claims can get people worked up, think what actual misogynistic attacks like those we have seen today in this thread would do.

Oh right, nothing. So it goes

Sad response is sad.

Again, I've corrected everything that was a mistake.

When you're done playing the victim let me know.

ETA: You didn't regularly refer to her as just "porn star"? That's messed up, because whenever I do a search for "whore" in those threads all I see is you calling her "porn star" and "attention whore lawyer" for Avenetti.

I'll get you some links to help you with your memory as it seems to be a problem.

Craig4 · 14th November 2018, 03:06 PM

Originally Posted by thaiboxerken

Bolton is scary. However, do you think the next guy will be any better? The enemy you know....

Yeah, those morons were scraping the bottom of the barrel when they got Bolton to take the job. If you're young enough to have a post Trump future you'd be damaged goods from the moment you sat in the chair. If you're old enough for this to be your last job you'd be worried about your legacy. Kelly's legacy will be a dumpster fire with his military service almost a footnote. People who could be the NSA are sure to have noticed.

Stacyhs · 14th November 2018, 04:17 PM

Originally Posted by dudalb

Nomally I don't believe in dragging a politician's wife into the fray,but if Melania is going to try to play Madame Du Barry and/or the Empress Alexandria, then she has given up her non combatant status.

Empress Alexandra.

Belz... · 14th November 2018, 04:42 PM

Originally Posted by The Big Dog

you realize that post is a total fabrication, right?

Ah, the delicious irony of that statement.

dudalb · 14th November 2018, 04:57 PM

Several unconfirmed reports that Ricardel is gone.
Long live Queen Cersai,oopps, I meant Melania.

varwoche · 14th November 2018, 05:13 PM

Another Trump is melting down article, this time from CNN. Highlights:

isolated, growing more furious by the day
friends say he's embittered by election losses and Mueller probe
longtime confidants worried for his health
blames advisers for losing the winning narrative of the midterms

My favorite bit:

Quote:

After his wife ordered the astounding statement be released Tuesday afternoon, Trump was furious that what had been an internal staffing matter was now thrust into public view, leaving him to look like a bossed-around husband. The President's mood was dark and intense after what officials said was a blindsiding by aides who do not report to him.

I know we see this sort of reporting frequently. It seems like Trump will pull the full mental monte, and then it keeps plodding along. Highly enjoyable notwithstanding. I want this mother ****** to suffer.

Stacyhs · 14th November 2018, 05:18 PM

Originally Posted by dudalb

Several unconfirmed reports that Ricardel is gone.
Long live Queen Cersai,oopps, I meant Melania.

Confirmed by CNN.

Stacyhs · 14th November 2018, 05:25 PM

Originally Posted by varwoche

Another Trump is melting down article, this time from CNN. Highlights:

isolated, growing more furious by the day
friends say he's embittered by election losses and Mueller probe
longtime confidants worried for his health
blames advisers for losing the winning narrative of the midterms

My favorite bit:
I know we see this sort of reporting frequently. It seems like Trump will pull the full mental monte, and then it keeps plodding along. Highly enjoyable notwithstanding. I want this mother ****** to suffer.

Amen to that.

I never believed he went into this expecting, or even really wanting, to be president. It was nothing but an attention getting stunt for him. And then the adulation started by the idiots who could not see him for what he is. Trump got addicted to the rallies and attention and the power. It fed his narcissism like never before. IMO, he doesn't give a damn about what's good for the country, but only what's good for him. I want it all to come crashing down on him. I want it to be the worst decision he ever made.

Cl1mh4224rd · 14th November 2018, 05:25 PM

Originally Posted by Stacko

President Trump accuses people of changing their clothes and returning to cast additional ballots in disguise. (there's no evidence of this) “Sometimes they go to their car, put on a different hat, put on a different shirt, come in and vote again."

At least they draw the line at three kids stacked on top of each other in an overcoat.

Wow. He has no idea how voting works. Or, at best, he thinks this will make his sycophants angry enough to forget how voting works.

Checkmite · 14th November 2018, 05:26 PM

Originally Posted by dudalb

Nomally I don't believe in dragging a politician's wife into the fray,but if Melania is going to try to play Madame Du Barry and/or the Empress Alexandria, then she has given up her non combatant status.

From what I've read, there is nothing wrong with or particularly conniving about Melania Trump wanting certain White House officials gone due to incompatibility. Indeed - again presuming the reports are true - it seems like Kelly is fairly contemptuous toward her, going as far as consistently "forgetting" to make travel and hotel arrangements for members of her staff when she goes on joint foreign visits with her husband. I have no problem with her complaints and I don't agree that she merits criticism for them.

It is hilarious how she's made Trump look whipped though. Which is his own fault, of course.

Babbylonian · 14th November 2018, 05:33 PM

Originally Posted by Checkmite

From what I've read, there is nothing wrong with or particularly conniving about Melania Trump wanting certain White House officials gone due to incompatibility. Indeed - again presuming the reports are true - it seems like Kelly is fairly contemptuous toward her, going as far as consistently "forgetting" to make travel and hotel arrangements for members of her staff when she goes on joint foreign visits with her husband. I have no problem with her complaints and I don't agree that she merits criticism for them.

It is hilarious how she's made Trump look whipped though. Which is his own fault, of course.

Wanting something, though, is a far cry from making the want public. Undermining a president's staff is the same as undermining that president. This is a laudable goal for the press, at least if it's justified and in the public interest. It's a terrible thing for a spouse to do.

Foolmewunz · 14th November 2018, 05:42 PM

Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger

How is that helpful? Bolton's out there starting little war fires all over the world.

I think Trump and his minions are cornered on the legislative front. Even if there are Republicans with passable ideas for legislation (that is passable in another meaning ofthe word), the dimwit in chief has no vision and no one wants to work with him because he'll throw them under the bus on a whim. That's the chief reason they've got no program bits passed except for the "Oooh, I want mine, gimme gimme gimme" tax cuts.

What is frightening is that the government is being run by fiat. What Trump and his stooges, particularly the scary ones like Miller, are doing behind the scenes is sending directives to Homeland Security, CBP, ICE, etc..... All those rules were there - they just found uniquely Trumpian ways to interpret them in the most abusive way possible.

I'd rather NOT have his foreign advisors also working in the backrooms and slipping memos to State and to the diplomatic services with policy changes that they think they can get away with. Having bigmouth Bolton as an attention whore aids in that respect.

varwoche · 14th November 2018, 06:01 PM

Originally Posted by Babbylonian

Wanting something, though, is a far cry from making the want public. Undermining a president's staff is the same as undermining that president. This is a laudable goal for the press, at least if it's justified and in the public interest. It's a terrible thing for a spouse to do.

For some surreal icing on the cake, consider that Melania called out "she". No name, just "she". Weird on top of weird.

dudalb · 14th November 2018, 06:05 PM

Originally Posted by varwoche

Another Trump is melting down article, this time from CNN. Highlights:

isolated, growing more furious by the day
friends say he's embittered by election losses and Mueller probe
longtime confidants worried for his health
blames advisers for losing the winning narrative of the midterms

My favorite bit:
I know we see this sort of reporting frequently. It seems like Trump will pull the full mental monte, and then it keeps plodding along. Highly enjoyable notwithstanding. I want this mother ****** to suffer.

His touting non existent GOP victories in the mid terms reminds me of Hitler ordering non existenet military units around in his last days.
But I would not get to happy about this, we have a borderline psychotic man with his finger on the nuclear trigger. if that is not scary what is.

dudalb · 14th November 2018, 06:09 PM

Originally Posted by Stacyhs

Amen to that.

I never believed he went into this expecting, or even really wanting, to be president. It was nothing but an attention getting stunt for him. And then the adulation started by the idiots who could not see him for what he is. Trump got addicted to the rallies and attention and the power. It fed his narcissism like never before. IMO, he doesn't give a damn about what's good for the country, but only what's good for him. I want it all to come crashing down on him. I want it to be the worst decision he ever made.

I keep on reading that too; that it started as a publicity stunt, but he got addicted to the adulation. But I alos read that even after his nomination he never really expected to win;he thought he would lose but could from some kind of mass movement with his followers with an "the election was stolen from me" line.
But more then Trump,even, I want the GOP enablers who knew full well what he is but figured they could somehow control and then use him'thye are the ones I really want to suffer.

dudalb · 14th November 2018, 06:15 PM

I am now more convinced then ever that,in the end, Trump will decide that the one sure way to rally his base and recapture his glory days is war.
Everything about Trump screams the kind of leader who will get you into a war.

Captain_Swoop · 14th November 2018, 06:17 PM

Originally Posted by Stacyhs

Confirmed by CNN.

Must be Fake News then.

Captain_Swoop · 14th November 2018, 06:19 PM

Trump Tweets

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Ladewig · 14th November 2018, 06:23 PM

Originally Posted by The Big Dog

One does not have to claim the high ground to decry the misogynistic attacks on Melania Trump, all one has to do is avoid diving into the cesspool, something that many of our posters seem to be unable to resist.

I’ll conceed part of the point. Perhaps one doesn’t need the moral high ground but one has to be at least at ground level to accuse others of misogyny. President Trump has dug a deep hole. Being upset with the left while ignoring the president’s glaring and undisgusable misogyny is laughable.

smartcooky · 14th November 2018, 06:30 PM

Originally Posted by dudalb

I am now more convinced then ever that,in the end, Trump will decide that the one sure way to rally his base and recapture his glory days is war.
Everything about Trump screams the kind of leader who will get you into a war.

Well it has been reported that Trump went into a big sulk after the midterm results returned a Democrat House. As someone who has suffered the pain and misery of living with a narcissist, this doesn't surprise me one bit... it is exactly how most narcissists behave when they have been rejected.

Narcissists are very dangerous when they get like this, they tend to lash out at anything and everything. That this particular narcissist is in a position of power makes him doubly dangerous.

alfaniner · 14th November 2018, 06:46 PM

Originally Posted by dudalb

I am now more convinced then ever that,in the end, Trump will decide that the one sure way to rally his base and recapture his glory days is war.
Everything about Trump screams the kind of leader who will get you into a war.

Remember that one of his first acts was to release the Mother Of All Bombs, just to make a point that he could.

Wouldn't it be cool if Melania divorces him, leaving him destitute before the end of his term? (I know there are loads of signed papers designed to prevent that happening, but still...)

Stacyhs · 14th November 2018, 06:48 PM

Originally Posted by alfaniner

Remember that one of his first acts was to release the Mother Of All Bombs, just to make a point that he could.

Wouldn't it be cool if Melania divorces him, leaving him destitute before the end of his term? (I know there are loads of signed papers designed to prevent that happening, but still...)

...one can dream.

The Big Dog · 14th November 2018, 07:04 PM

Originally Posted by Ladewig

I’ll conceed part of the point. Perhaps one doesn’t need the moral high ground but one has to be at least at ground level to accuse others of misogyny. President Trump has dug a deep hole. Being upset with the left while ignoring the president’s glaring and undisgusable misogyny is laughable.

absolutely false. That is a complete ad hominem fallacy, and that is not debatable.

It is the same old lip service while trying to derail the actual conduct we are discussing.

Ridiculous

Foolmewunz · 14th November 2018, 07:04 PM

Originally Posted by alfaniner

Remember that one of his first acts was to release the Mother Of All Bombs, just to make a point that he could.

Wouldn't it be cool if Melania divorces him, leaving him destitute before the end of his term? (I know there are loads of signed papers designed to prevent that happening, but still...)

I have a different take on the MoAB detonation. I think it's more like the "Vrooom! Vrooom!" truck-driver miming. He did it because he wanted to see what it'd be like "blow 'em up real good"(someone insert the SCTV clip, if you want).

He's a big baby and wanted to play with his new toys. If we had a dead zone somewhere in the world, he'd be dropping nukes and watching the videos at night before bed.

a_unique_person · 14th November 2018, 07:15 PM

Originally Posted by The Big Dog

Checks in...

sees that the misogynistic comments directed at Trump's wife are getting called and doubled down.

Cannot say I am surprised.

I think they are deplorables.

Minoosh · 14th November 2018, 08:29 PM

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop

Must be Fake News then.

From CNN:

Quote:

The timing for the President's fury couldn't be worse, considering the White House is heading into uncharted territory with Democrats assuming control of the House.

I wish CNN wouldn't do this. If this is supposed to be a news article, under old-school (my age

) rules, it shouldn't be making this assertion. It veers into "analysis." And really, it's like dozens of articles I've already seen. Trump has had the worst week of his presidency - how many times have I read this? And though it may be freshly true each week, taken together such analyses are giving a distorted view of Trump's presidency.

When Trump first took office I gobbled this stuff up. He was going to get his comeuppance any day now, it seemed. It got to the point where I quit checking CNN, because I felt I was getting an unrealistic expectation that the country as a whole was sick of Trump, and it didn't match the reality I saw around me.

Besides which, "heading into uncharted territory" is just stale writing. For the first time his party does not control both houses of Congress. I can do the math.

After the shock of his election I wasn't about to believe anything I read ahead of the midterms. I avoided the news all last Tuesday. It came out the way I hoped, mostly.

Minoosh · 14th November 2018, 08:31 PM

Originally Posted by Foolmewunz

If we had a dead zone somewhere in the world, he'd be dropping nukes and watching the videos at night before bed.

Don't give him any ideas.

varwoche · 14th November 2018, 08:34 PM

Originally Posted by The Big Dog

absolutely false. That is a complete ad hominem fallacy, and that is not debatable.

It is the same old lip service while trying to derail the actual conduct we are discussing.

Ridiculous

I've lost track of the plot. Who/what is the conductor/conduct?

Regardless, I wish everyone to maintain a degree of decorum. Maybe what Michelle Obama said is falling out of favor. I hope not. This sort of talk gets used against "the good guys" and could cost the 2020 election here on a sleepy backwater forum, ya sure

The immigrant call lady married to Trump is discussed frequently. Someone should start a thread one day.

Venom · 14th November 2018, 09:10 PM

Quote:

“The Republicans don’t win and that’s because of potentially illegal votes,” Trump told the conservative Daily Caller website. “When people get in line that have absolutely no right to vote and they go around in circles. Sometimes they go to their car, put on a different hat, put on a different shirt, come in and vote again. Nobody takes anything. It’s really a disgrace what’s going on.”

- The Guardian

Guys in oversized trenchcoats are just kids standing on each others' shoulders.

The Great Zaganza · 14th November 2018, 09:17 PM

Originally Posted by Venom

- The Guardian

Guys in oversized trenchcoats are just kids standing on each others' shoulders.

That's not the issue
The issue is whether those two kids vote Republican or not.

Regnad Kcin · 14th November 2018, 10:04 PM

Originally Posted by dudalb

For a Die Hard Trump supporter to get all outraged over some name calling is one of the more hypocritical things I have seen lately. And I have seen a lot of hypocrisy...

Bruce Willis a hypocrite? Sad.

14th November 2018, 02:04 PM	#81
GlennB Loggerheaded, earth-vexing fustilarian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Arcadia, Greece Posts: 23,818	Originally Posted by carlitos That's what she said. giggle
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14th November 2018, 02:05 PM	#82
Sideroxylon Featherless biped Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Aporia Posts: 19,821	Originally Posted by The Big Dog Curious, the person who bitterly and falsely complained that I was bringing up matters from another thread is fraudulently attributing things I never said to me in the Stormy Daniels thread. Pathetic. Gaze upon what fraudulent mischief the leftists use to defend the indefensible. Rumour is Huckster-Samders is moving on. They might be auditioning so give them a break.
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14th November 2018, 02:17 PM	#83
P.J. Denyer Illuminator Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 4,725	Originally Posted by varwoche * She took his election victory proclamation seriously? Maybe she has a better sense of humour than we give her credit for?
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14th November 2018, 02:24 PM	#85
Minoosh Philosopher Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 8,227	Originally Posted by The Big Dog Ya see folks, I opened Melania up to an astounding continuation of blatantly misogynistic attacks. Wow, there are no other words. Seize this opportunity - anything's better than defending Trump, who also calls women names.
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14th November 2018, 02:25 PM	#86
Minoosh Philosopher Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 8,227	Originally Posted by Bob001 That might be the wierdest aspect of this. Any other First Lady would have had a private word with her husband, and the offensive staffer would have been quietly moved to another job with an official statement of gratitude for her great service. This is hard to understand. I'm not sure they even speak to each other.
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14th November 2018, 02:20 PM	#84
Hellbound Merchant of Doom Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Not in Hell, but I can see it from here on a clear day... Posts: 12,838	Originally Posted by Sideroxylon Rumour is Huckster-Samders is moving on. They might be auditioning so give them a break. I dunno, the post you responded to reminded me of several things. Geese and ganders. Pots and Kettles. Motes and Planks. That's without even looking beyond the allegation.

14th November 2018, 02:30 PM	#87
P.J. Denyer Illuminator Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 4,725	Originally Posted by TheSupermeerkat Trying to get in on his good side for post Brexit - I have the feeling that 52% of the Brits (who voted on the day) have F’d them~~selves~~ all in the A with Brexit and will need to keep the Dolt sweet. Just saying as one of those who doesn't want to sacrifice the future for an imaginary past.
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14th November 2018, 02:34 PM	#88
plague311 Great minds think... Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: North Dakota Posts: 4,643	Originally Posted by The Big Dog Curious, the person who bitterly and falsely complained that I was bringing up matters from another thread is fraudulently attributing things I never said to me in the Stormy Daniels thread. Pathetic. Gaze upon what fraudulent mischief the leftists use to defend the indefensible. I corrected my ******* error already. I know you never do that because you will never admit any mistake you make (it's a common trait of those who support Trump). So why don't you give it a rest? You referred to her as nothing but "porn star", so you're technically correct. You were just as misogynistic, if not more so, than anyone else around here. Never called her by her name, always "porn star", which you repeatedly used to objectify her. You called her a liar, insulted her and her lawyer at every turn. Now you want to come here crying about people being mean because it's the gold digger in the WH? Seriously, get over yourself. ETA: Notice how I didn't use quotation marks around my post either? That's because it wasn't a direct quote. It's paraphrasing all of your statements while you try to play some feeble game of "gotcha" because you never used the word "whore". It's really sad and anyone with half a brain can see right through this latest fraud of a defense you're using.
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14th November 2018, 02:40 PM	#89
The Big Dog Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 27,812	Huh, I guess I am the bad guy because a poster fraudulently misrepresented my posts in a completely different thread. man, if totally made up claims can get people worked up, think what actual misogynistic attacks like those we have seen today in this thread would do. Oh right, nothing. So it goes
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14th November 2018, 02:41 PM	#90
plague311 Great minds think... Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: North Dakota Posts: 4,643	Originally Posted by The Big Dog Huh, I guess I am the bad guy because a poster fraudulently misrepresented my posts in a completely different thread. man, if totally made up claims can get people worked up, think what actual misogynistic attacks like those we have seen today in this thread would do. Oh right, nothing. So it goes Sad response is sad. Again, I've corrected everything that was a mistake. When you're done playing the victim let me know. ETA: You didn't regularly refer to her as just "porn star"? That's messed up, because whenever I do a search for "whore" in those threads all I see is you calling her "porn star" and "attention whore lawyer" for Avenetti. I'll get you some links to help you with your memory as it seems to be a problem.
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14th November 2018, 03:06 PM	#91
Craig4 Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Alexandria, VA Home to the Deep State. Posts: 17,451	Originally Posted by thaiboxerken Bolton is scary. However, do you think the next guy will be any better? The enemy you know.... Yeah, those morons were scraping the bottom of the barrel when they got Bolton to take the job. If you're young enough to have a post Trump future you'd be damaged goods from the moment you sat in the chair. If you're old enough for this to be your last job you'd be worried about your legacy. Kelly's legacy will be a dumpster fire with his military service almost a footnote. People who could be the NSA are sure to have noticed.

14th November 2018, 04:17 PM	#92
Stacyhs Philosopher Join Date: Mar 2016 Posts: 5,850	Originally Posted by dudalb Nomally I don't believe in dragging a politician's wife into the fray,but if Melania is going to try to play Madame Du Barry and/or the Empress Alexandria, then she has given up her non combatant status. Empress Alexandra.
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14th November 2018, 04:42 PM	#93
Belz... Fiend God Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: In the details Posts: 76,358	Originally Posted by The Big Dog you realize that post is a total fabrication, right? Ah, the delicious irony of that statement.
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14th November 2018, 04:57 PM	#94
dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sacramento Posts: 41,731	Several unconfirmed reports that Ricardel is gone. Long live Queen Cersai,oopps, I meant Melania.
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14th November 2018, 05:13 PM	#95
varwoche Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Puget Sound Posts: 11,942	Another Trump is melting down article, this time from CNN. Highlights: isolated, growing more furious by the day friends say he's embittered by election losses and Mueller probe longtime confidants worried for his health blames advisers for losing the winning narrative of the midterms My favorite bit: Quote: After his wife ordered the astounding statement be released Tuesday afternoon, Trump was furious that what had been an internal staffing matter was now thrust into public view, leaving him to look like a bossed-around husband. The President's mood was dark and intense after what officials said was a blindsiding by aides who do not report to him. I know we see this sort of reporting frequently. It seems like Trump will pull the full mental monte, and then it keeps plodding along. Highly enjoyable notwithstanding. I want this mother ****** to suffer.
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14th November 2018, 05:18 PM	#96
Stacyhs Philosopher Join Date: Mar 2016 Posts: 5,850	Originally Posted by dudalb Several unconfirmed reports that Ricardel is gone. Long live Queen Cersai,oopps, I meant Melania. Confirmed by CNN.
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14th November 2018, 05:25 PM	#97
Stacyhs Philosopher Join Date: Mar 2016 Posts: 5,850	Originally Posted by varwoche Another Trump is melting down article, this time from CNN. Highlights: isolated, growing more furious by the day friends say he's embittered by election losses and Mueller probe longtime confidants worried for his health blames advisers for losing the winning narrative of the midterms My favorite bit: I know we see this sort of reporting frequently. It seems like Trump will pull the full mental monte, and then it keeps plodding along. Highly enjoyable notwithstanding. I want this mother ****** to suffer. Amen to that. I never believed he went into this expecting, or even really wanting, to be president. It was nothing but an attention getting stunt for him. And then the adulation started by the idiots who could not see him for what he is. Trump got addicted to the rallies and attention and the power. It fed his narcissism like never before. IMO, he doesn't give a damn about what's good for the country, but only what's good for him. I want it all to come crashing down on him. I want it to be the worst decision he ever made.
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14th November 2018, 05:25 PM	#98
Cl1mh4224rd Philosopher Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 9,771	Originally Posted by Stacko President Trump accuses people of changing their clothes and returning to cast additional ballots in disguise. (there's no evidence of this) “Sometimes they go to their car, put on a different hat, put on a different shirt, come in and vote again." At least they draw the line at three kids stacked on top of each other in an overcoat. Wow. He has no idea how voting works. Or, at best, he thinks this will make his sycophants angry enough to forget how voting works.
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14th November 2018, 05:26 PM	#99
Checkmite Skepticifimisticalationist Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Gulf Coast Posts: 22,588	Originally Posted by dudalb Nomally I don't believe in dragging a politician's wife into the fray,but if Melania is going to try to play Madame Du Barry and/or the Empress Alexandria, then she has given up her non combatant status. From what I've read, there is nothing wrong with or particularly conniving about Melania Trump wanting certain White House officials gone due to incompatibility. Indeed - again presuming the reports are true - it seems like Kelly is fairly contemptuous toward her, going as far as consistently "forgetting" to make travel and hotel arrangements for members of her staff when she goes on joint foreign visits with her husband. I have no problem with her complaints and I don't agree that she merits criticism for them. It is hilarious how she's made Trump look whipped though. Which is his own fault, of course.
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14th November 2018, 05:33 PM	#100
Babbylonian Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 11,454	Originally Posted by Checkmite From what I've read, there is nothing wrong with or particularly conniving about Melania Trump wanting certain White House officials gone due to incompatibility. Indeed - again presuming the reports are true - it seems like Kelly is fairly contemptuous toward her, going as far as consistently "forgetting" to make travel and hotel arrangements for members of her staff when she goes on joint foreign visits with her husband. I have no problem with her complaints and I don't agree that she merits criticism for them. It is hilarious how she's made Trump look whipped though. Which is his own fault, of course. Wanting something, though, is a far cry from making the want public. Undermining a president's staff is the same as undermining that president. This is a laudable goal for the press, at least if it's justified and in the public interest. It's a terrible thing for a spouse to do.

14th November 2018, 05:42 PM	#101
Foolmewunz Grammar Resistance Leader TLA Dictator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Pattaya, Thailand Posts: 39,342	Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger How is that helpful? Bolton's out there starting little war fires all over the world. I think Trump and his minions are cornered on the legislative front. Even if there are Republicans with passable ideas for legislation (that is passable in another meaning ofthe word), the dimwit in chief has no vision and no one wants to work with him because he'll throw them under the bus on a whim. That's the chief reason they've got no program bits passed except for the "Oooh, I want mine, gimme gimme gimme" tax cuts. What is frightening is that the government is being run by fiat. What Trump and his stooges, particularly the scary ones like Miller, are doing behind the scenes is sending directives to Homeland Security, CBP, ICE, etc..... All those rules were there - they just found uniquely Trumpian ways to interpret them in the most abusive way possible. I'd rather NOT have his foreign advisors also working in the backrooms and slipping memos to State and to the diplomatic services with policy changes that they think they can get away with. Having bigmouth Bolton as an attention whore aids in that respect.
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14th November 2018, 06:01 PM	#102
varwoche Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Puget Sound Posts: 11,942	Originally Posted by Babbylonian Wanting something, though, is a far cry from making the want public. Undermining a president's staff is the same as undermining that president. This is a laudable goal for the press, at least if it's justified and in the public interest. It's a terrible thing for a spouse to do. For some surreal icing on the cake, consider that Melania called out "she". No name, just "she". Weird on top of weird.
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14th November 2018, 06:05 PM	#103
dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sacramento Posts: 41,731	Originally Posted by varwoche Another Trump is melting down article, this time from CNN. Highlights: isolated, growing more furious by the day friends say he's embittered by election losses and Mueller probe longtime confidants worried for his health blames advisers for losing the winning narrative of the midterms My favorite bit: I know we see this sort of reporting frequently. It seems like Trump will pull the full mental monte, and then it keeps plodding along. Highly enjoyable notwithstanding. I want this mother ****** to suffer. His touting non existent GOP victories in the mid terms reminds me of Hitler ordering non existenet military units around in his last days. But I would not get to happy about this, we have a borderline psychotic man with his finger on the nuclear trigger. if that is not scary what is.
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14th November 2018, 06:09 PM	#104
dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sacramento Posts: 41,731	Originally Posted by Stacyhs Amen to that. I never believed he went into this expecting, or even really wanting, to be president. It was nothing but an attention getting stunt for him. And then the adulation started by the idiots who could not see him for what he is. Trump got addicted to the rallies and attention and the power. It fed his narcissism like never before. IMO, he doesn't give a damn about what's good for the country, but only what's good for him. I want it all to come crashing down on him. I want it to be the worst decision he ever made. I keep on reading that too; that it started as a publicity stunt, but he got addicted to the adulation. But I alos read that even after his nomination he never really expected to win;he thought he would lose but could from some kind of mass movement with his followers with an "the election was stolen from me" line. But more then Trump,even, I want the GOP enablers who knew full well what he is but figured they could somehow control and then use him'thye are the ones I really want to suffer.
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14th November 2018, 06:15 PM	#105
dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sacramento Posts: 41,731	I am now more convinced then ever that,in the end, Trump will decide that the one sure way to rally his base and recapture his glory days is war. Everything about Trump screams the kind of leader who will get you into a war.
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14th November 2018, 06:17 PM	#106
Captain_Swoop Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 18,046	Originally Posted by Stacyhs Confirmed by CNN. Must be Fake News then.

14th November 2018, 06:19 PM	#107
Captain_Swoop Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 18,046	Trump Tweets "Our pledge to hire American includes those leaving prison and looking for a very fresh start — new job, and new life. The legislation I am supporting today contains many significant reforms. Read more here: http://45.wh.gov/esvdqj "

14th November 2018, 06:23 PM	#108
Ladewig I lost an avatar bet. Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 26,068	Originally Posted by The Big Dog One does not have to claim the high ground to decry the misogynistic attacks on Melania Trump, all one has to do is avoid diving into the cesspool, something that many of our posters seem to be unable to resist. I’ll conceed part of the point. Perhaps one doesn’t need the moral high ground but one has to be at least at ground level to accuse others of misogyny. President Trump has dug a deep hole. Being upset with the left while ignoring the president’s glaring and undisgusable misogyny is laughable.
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14th November 2018, 06:30 PM	#109
smartcooky Philosopher Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Nelson, New Zealand Posts: 9,663	Originally Posted by dudalb I am now more convinced then ever that,in the end, Trump will decide that the one sure way to rally his base and recapture his glory days is war. Everything about Trump screams the kind of leader who will get you into a war. Well it has been reported that Trump went into a big sulk after the midterm results returned a Democrat House. As someone who has suffered the pain and misery of living with a narcissist, this doesn't surprise me one bit... it is exactly how most narcissists behave when they have been rejected. Narcissists are very dangerous when they get like this, they tend to lash out at anything and everything. That this particular narcissist is in a position of power makes him doubly dangerous.
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14th November 2018, 06:46 PM	#110
alfaniner Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 18,823	Originally Posted by dudalb I am now more convinced then ever that,in the end, Trump will decide that the one sure way to rally his base and recapture his glory days is war. Everything about Trump screams the kind of leader who will get you into a war. Remember that one of his first acts was to release the Mother Of All Bombs, just to make a point that he could. Wouldn't it be cool if Melania divorces him, leaving him destitute before the end of his term? (I know there are loads of signed papers designed to prevent that happening, but still...)
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14th November 2018, 06:48 PM	#111
Stacyhs Philosopher Join Date: Mar 2016 Posts: 5,850	Originally Posted by alfaniner Remember that one of his first acts was to release the Mother Of All Bombs, just to make a point that he could. Wouldn't it be cool if Melania divorces him, leaving him destitute before the end of his term? (I know there are loads of signed papers designed to prevent that happening, but still...) ...one can dream.
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14th November 2018, 07:04 PM	#112
The Big Dog Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 27,812	Originally Posted by Ladewig I’ll conceed part of the point. Perhaps one doesn’t need the moral high ground but one has to be at least at ground level to accuse others of misogyny. President Trump has dug a deep hole. Being upset with the left while ignoring the president’s glaring and undisgusable misogyny is laughable. absolutely false. That is a complete ad hominem fallacy, and that is not debatable. It is the same old lip service while trying to derail the actual conduct we are discussing. Ridiculous
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14th November 2018, 07:04 PM	#113
Foolmewunz Grammar Resistance Leader TLA Dictator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Pattaya, Thailand Posts: 39,342	Originally Posted by alfaniner Remember that one of his first acts was to release the Mother Of All Bombs, just to make a point that he could. Wouldn't it be cool if Melania divorces him, leaving him destitute before the end of his term? (I know there are loads of signed papers designed to prevent that happening, but still...) I have a different take on the MoAB detonation. I think it's more like the "Vrooom! Vrooom!" truck-driver miming. He did it because he wanted to see what it'd be like "blow 'em up real good"(someone insert the SCTV clip, if you want). He's a big baby and wanted to play with his new toys. If we had a dead zone somewhere in the world, he'd be dropping nukes and watching the videos at night before bed.
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14th November 2018, 07:15 PM	#114
a_unique_person Director of Hatcheries and Conditioning Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Waiting for the pod bay door to open. Posts: 39,204	Originally Posted by The Big Dog Checks in... sees that the misogynistic comments directed at Trump's wife are getting called and doubled down. Cannot say I am surprised. I think they are deplorables.
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14th November 2018, 08:29 PM	#115
Minoosh Philosopher Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 8,227	Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop Must be Fake News then. From CNN: Quote: The timing for the President's fury couldn't be worse, considering the White House is heading into uncharted territory with Democrats assuming control of the House. I wish CNN wouldn't do this. If this is supposed to be a news article, under old-school (my age ) rules, it shouldn't be making this assertion. It veers into "analysis." And really, it's like dozens of articles I've already seen. Trump has had the worst week of his presidency - how many times have I read this? And though it may be freshly true each week, taken together such analyses are giving a distorted view of Trump's presidency. When Trump first took office I gobbled this stuff up. He was going to get his comeuppance any day now, it seemed. It got to the point where I quit checking CNN, because I felt I was getting an unrealistic expectation that the country as a whole was sick of Trump, and it didn't match the reality I saw around me. Besides which, "heading into uncharted territory" is just stale writing. For the first time his party does not control both houses of Congress. I can do the math. After the shock of his election I wasn't about to believe anything I read ahead of the midterms. I avoided the news all last Tuesday. It came out the way I hoped, mostly.
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