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Old 25th June 2018, 08:15 AM   #1
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Living Water.

I just saw one of those commercial-decorated cars on the road advertising this “Living Water”.

Prominent was a message to “call for franchise information”...

But also things like “hydrogen rich” (????)

The website:
http://www.livingwaterhealthsolutions.com/

Quotes from scripture in a couple of places, and indicates that this stuff has all sorts of health and curative powers, as well as improvements in “cognitive ability”.

Sounds like a combination of good old snake-oil and a pyramid scheme all rolled into one.
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Old 25th June 2018, 08:25 AM   #2
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Huh. A few weeks ago when the town where I work discovered its water was living, we were told to boil it.

We should have bottled it up and sold it instead? Who knew?
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Old 25th June 2018, 08:27 AM   #3
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Originally Posted by Bikewer View Post
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But also things like “hydrogen rich” (????)
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Well, not technically a lie I guess
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Old 25th June 2018, 09:09 AM   #4
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They've probably filtered out all of the deadly DHMO.
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Old 25th June 2018, 09:13 AM   #5
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Perhaps it is also wetter than normal water.


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Old 25th June 2018, 09:56 AM   #6
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Funny thing is almost nothing on their list of products is a liquid, much less something you might call water.
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Old 25th June 2018, 10:41 AM   #7
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But also things like “hydrogen rich” (????)
Up to two thirds hydrogen?
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Old 25th June 2018, 10:58 AM   #8
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So...does this mean drinking is murder?
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Old 25th June 2018, 11:11 AM   #9
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Originally Posted by Bikewer View Post
I just saw one of those commercial-decorated cars on the road advertising this “Living Water”.

Prominent was a message to “call for franchise information”...

But also things like “hydrogen rich” (????)

The website:
http://www.livingwaterhealthsolutions.com/

Quotes from scripture in a couple of places, and indicates that this stuff has all sorts of health and curative powers, as well as improvements in “cognitive ability”.

Sounds like a combination of good old snake-oil and a pyramid scheme all rolled into one.
Well, guess they hope the "cognitive ability” doesn't improve too much.

Reminds me of the smart pill joke. A man is selling little round 'smart pills'. A customer buys some, eats one and goes "EWWW, that tastes like crap!!". The man goes "Yep, rabbit crap, see, you're getting smarter already".
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I am now tempted to start a business selling "Zombie Water".
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Old 25th June 2018, 01:49 PM   #11
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Originally Posted by Hokulele View Post
I am now tempted to start a business selling "Zombie Water".
Risen Water.

Think about it, you could monetize your own urine!
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Old 25th June 2018, 03:31 PM   #12
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Perusing the linked website, it seems they don't sell any water at all and it's some kind of woo clinic in Mississippi . . . I do find that Living Water seems to be some kind of MLM/Franchise thing in the Philippines.
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Old 25th June 2018, 03:34 PM   #13
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I like this part - read carefully - I haven't changed a word:
Quote:
"Our purpose is to HELP you achieve health and wellness in every way! We realize people aren’t just physically sick, they are sick in their heart, soul, mind and body! Good health consists of far free fonts more than physical health, and can only be obtained replica watches when our entire being is well. A person’s mental and spiritual health has a direct affect on their physical health and vise-versa."
As for the cherry on the cake, he's certified in colon cleansing, amongst other things...
http://www.livingwaterhealthsolutions.com/about.php
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Old 25th June 2018, 04:47 PM   #14
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Originally Posted by Kid Eager View Post
I like this part - read carefully - I haven't changed a word:


As for the cherry on the cake, he's certified in colon cleansing, amongst other things...
http://www.livingwaterhealthsolutions.com/about.php

No wonder then, when I first looked at the phrase "far free fonts" in your link, I read "far free farts"


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Old 25th June 2018, 05:24 PM   #15
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Maybe someone lost a fake Rolex up there.
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Awwww

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Old 25th June 2018, 06:31 PM   #17
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Originally Posted by Hokulele View Post
I am now tempted to start a business selling "Zombie Water".

This is a marketable notion! It's all in the packaging.
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Old 25th June 2018, 06:33 PM   #18
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Somewhere, a Nigerian is chortling...
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Old 26th June 2018, 07:08 AM   #19
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Old 26th June 2018, 05:13 PM   #20
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Originally Posted by Bikewer View Post
...But also things like “hydrogen rich” (????)
Originally Posted by The Sparrow View Post
Well, not technically a lie I guess
Actually, as this is woo - of course it is technically a lie.

H has an atomic radius of 25, Oxygen is 60.
Density of H is 88 kg/m3 and O, 1495.

So you have only 14% H by volume and 12% by mass.

Hardly “hydrogen rich” in my book.
According to FDA guidelines,
“ The terms "high," "rich in," or "excellent source of" may be used on the label and in the labeling of foods,. . . provided that the food contains 20 percent or more of the RDI or the DRV per reference amount customarily consumed.
I don’t know if there is an RDI for H, but 12 or 14 is still less than 20 as far as my maths can work out.




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This guy (Ronnie Ingley) has a presence as a Mississippi redemptionist-type minister, too. Gotta be the same guy. Living Water is in Hattiesburg.


Check out this page, doubters....

http://www.livingwaterhealthsolutions.com/about.php

I'll have you know that not only has he read the works of several doctors, but that he's an adherent to the Godliness of the Hallelujah Acres health plan - some sort of Raw Foodie Meets Bible Thumper organization.

But if that doesn't sell you.... look at that picture of their hallway! That's some hallway, I tell ya! As the caption explains, that's the "Living Water Hallway". Hey, I'm sold!
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Originally Posted by EHocking View Post
Actually, as this is woo - of course it is technically a lie.

H has an atomic radius of 25, Oxygen is 60.
Density of H is 88 kg/m3 and O, 1495.

So you have only 14% H by volume and 12% by mass.

Hardly “hydrogen rich” in my book.
According to FDA guidelines,
“ The terms "high," "rich in," or "excellent source of" may be used on the label and in the labeling of foods,. . . provided that the food contains 20 percent or more of the RDI or the DRV per reference amount customarily consumed.
I don’t know if there is an RDI for H, but 12 or 14 is still less than 20 as far as my maths can work out.




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Well, if the RDI is "none", then even no hydrogen would be 20% of the RDI.

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My parents taught me that it is wrong to take advantage of stupid people. But I must admit it is getting more and more difficult for me to stick to that moral teaching. The stupid seem to want so desperately to be suckered. Why deny them? And if you sell them hydrogen-rich water, or colonic cleaning, or mono-magnetic copper bracelets, etc. at a high price, they are very likely to indeed feel better after the "treatment." Just as people enjoy more the same wine if sold for $200 a bottle than $2.

Actually my moral qualms against selling people useless health aides remain fully intact. But my ethical resistance in other areas, such as the idea of selling high-end audiophiles magic crystals that "enhance the depth and transparency" of their music, is wavering. But the competition in that field is already intense. I will have to think up something else.
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Well, if the RDI is "none", then even no hydrogen would be 20% of the RDI.

Didn't want you to be disappointed...

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Actually my moral qualms against selling people useless health aides remain fully intact. But my ethical resistance in other areas, such as the idea of selling high-end audiophiles magic crystals that "enhance the depth and transparency" of their music, is wavering. But the competition in that field is already intense. I will have to think up something else.
Try selling them on the prospect of making millions by assisting you move left-over funds from a sub-Sahara African revolution to a Swiss bank account. All they need do is supply an idle bank account in their name and pay the transfer fees, and they can have a percentage of the millions.

(That percentage may be zero. )
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Originally Posted by EHocking View Post
Actually, as this is woo - of course it is technically a lie.

H has an atomic radius of 25, Oxygen is 60.
Density of H is 88 kg/m3 and O, 1495.

So you have only 14% H by volume and 12% by mass.

Hardly “hydrogen rich” in my book.
According to FDA guidelines,
“ The terms "high," "rich in," or "excellent source of" may be used on the label and in the labeling of foods,. . . provided that the food contains 20 percent or more of the RDI or the DRV per reference amount customarily consumed.
I don’t know if there is an RDI for H, but 12 or 14 is still less than 20 as far as my maths can work out.




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It's still 2/3 measured in moles. You've got to choose your units carefully.
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