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It's a Gray's pet that got loose while its owner was busy mutilating some cattle.
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I noticed the linked article quoted some idiot that said it's a grizzly cub. With that tail it's not any kind of bear. I agree that other than color it looks like a coyote, so I'm going to go with melanistic coyote, or coyote-dog hybrid. Feral dog is another possibility. It's too small and its tail is too bushy for a wolf.
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I keep reading the title as "unidentified candid shot" and wondering what he took a picture of.
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Of course. It's the little-known terrestrial larval stage of the Loch Ness Monster. They hatch in Montana, then, after the fifth molt (3-5 years), they enter their aquatic meta-larval stage, swim down the Missouri and Mississippi to the Gulf of Mexico, then cross the Atlantic to Loch Ness. After seven more molts (40-60 years), the winged adults fly back to Montana to mate and lay eggs, then die. Larval Loch Ness monsters were once quite common, but numbers have dropped drastically due to poisoning by dental floss tycoons, because they are a major pest of dental floss farms.
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The mainstream media seemed to quote every crazy idea that anybody said online. Even the biggest most respected media outlets included "theories" such as it being the legendary Dogman.
These weren't put forward as legitimate but instead was more like "let's see what online Americans have to say about it". |
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There's an investigation underway to determine if the Bigfoot industry's preeminent folklore/fakelore/****lore house really did sponsor this headline/story in the Huffington Post (and then denied it): The NAWAC™ Presents The Dogman™: Those Who Don't Believe Are Just Jealous Crossfit™ Dropouts!
A quick passage from the story: "...the flashlight from the previous night's melee had really got banged up and wasn't working very well. We weren't sure if we needed to go to town and get another or simply shove this one up our..." Say what? ![]() |
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I don't find the range think particularly compelling, lone wolves have been known to stray quite far in search of a home.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OR-7 I bet on coy-dog or coy-wolf, though an oddly colored coyote is not out of the question, I just think the experts would have picked up on that more quickly. That's just ridiculous, its way to far north. Edit, I thought dire wolves were much larger than modern species, seems to have been slightly larger but with a larger head relative to body size, and smaller feet and we all know what that means. Probably why it went extinct. |
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That's right. Wolves and coyotes are generally rivals. Coyotes are persecuted when they live within wolf territories.
The coy-wolves of the northeastern USA are descendants of matings that occurred long ago when pioneers killed off most of the wolves. This left an opportunity for coyotes to move in from the west and hybrids occurred in a situation of a very low and scattered wolf population. There haven't been any pure wolves in the NE USA in a long time. Research shows that these "big coyotes" are a mixture of wolf, coyote and dog. |
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I've changed my mind again. I'm now certain that it's a Mokele-mbembe.
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Looks like a mutt to me!
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At least you didn't search for "Baby: Secret of the Lost Legend" on Netflix.
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You are all wrong. It's a bigpaw.
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I'm surprised.
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Cool.
Looks a little odd for a wolf, but I don't guess the DNA lies. |
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I would not have guessed melanistic coyote if I knew it weighed 85 pounds.
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There was no mention of weight until after the lab analysis.
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Right, and I saw the picture of it laying on the truck tailgate and it looked coyote or dog-sized. What was working against my guess is that there's no record of any melanistic coyote in Montana. They seem to be creatures of the southeast.
That rancher was correct. He had the opportunity to see it alive - how it looked standing and behaving and moving. Wolves are not really quite like coyotes and dogs in those aspects. Even if he had never before seen a wolf on his property, he knew. |
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The first time I heard a Black Woodpecker in a German forest I knew immediately what it was.
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