George Santos charged with defrauding campaign donors - Page 26

Hans · 20th November 2023, 09:29 AM

Originally Posted by Gulliver Foyle

It's his own fault for running for office.

It is an old truism that if you have something you want to hide, a secret you didn't want known - DON'T run for public office - because your opponents will do a search into your past well beyond what the police might do.

dann · 27th November 2023, 02:16 AM

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New York Congressman George Santos is doubling down against the ethics committee report alleging his misuse of campaign funds. Meanwhile, another House vote to expel him is expected this week. Ethics committee member Rep. Glenn Ivey joins MSNBC’s Symone Sanders-Townsend to discuss what to expect.
Congressman George Santos in hot water: House Ethics Committee Member reveals what's next (MSNBC on YouTube, Nov 27, 2023 - 7:40 min)

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Norman Alexander · 27th November 2023, 05:18 AM

Should be literal hot water.

gnome · 27th November 2023, 08:41 PM

"Oh no, I lied to everyone to get into office and now that I'm accused of various crimes, nobody believes me! How did that happen?"

Mike! · 1st December 2023, 08:59 AM

Looks like he's getting a well deserved boot out of the house.
311 to 114, with 2 voting 'present', and 8 not voting.

acbytesla · 1st December 2023, 09:01 AM

Originally Posted by Mike!

Looks like he's getting a well deserved boot out of the house.

Yeah, they crossed the 287 vote threshold. He's expelled.

acbytesla · 1st December 2023, 09:06 AM

It's official. George Santos has been expelled. There will be a special election to fill his seat.

Gord_in_Toronto · 1st December 2023, 12:12 PM

Originally Posted by acbytesla

It's official. George Santos has been expelled. There will be a special election to fill his seat.

Will Trvmp run for it?

jaydeehess · 1st December 2023, 02:34 PM

How the hell did he get 100+ members to vote to not expell him. This should have been unanimous.

JoeMorgue · 1st December 2023, 02:53 PM

"Since he was not convicted of a crime George Santos retains access to the House floor, dining room, gym and cloakroom but not security."

So my biggest takeaway is that Congress has a Cloakroom and our Congress people don't wear cloaks.

(Yes I'm sure it's just a glorified coatcheck room)

acbytesla · 1st December 2023, 03:08 PM

Originally Posted by JoeMorgue

"Since he was not convicted of a crime George Santos retains access to the House floor, dining room, gym and cloakroom but not security."

So my biggest takeaway is that Congress has a Cloakroom and our Congress people don't wear cloaks.

(Yes I'm sure it's just a glorified coatcheck room)

Are you sure about this? That doesn't seem likely to me. But it is not likely that Santos will walk back into that building except as a tourist 20 years from now.

gnome · 1st December 2023, 03:17 PM

Originally Posted by acbytesla

Are you sure about this? That doesn't seem likely to me. But it is not likely that Santos will walk back into that building except as a tourist 20 years from now.

Or for a Jan 6 2025 photo op.

Foster Zygote · 1st December 2023, 03:31 PM

Originally Posted by jaydeehess

How the hell did he get 100+ members to vote to not expell him. This should have been unanimous.

Party before ethics.

Stacyhs · 1st December 2023, 05:55 PM

Originally Posted by jaydeehess

How the hell did he get 100+ members to vote to not expell him. This should have been unanimous.

Keeping that GOP small majority from getting any smaller. A Dem is likely to take his vacant seat making it even tighter.

JoeMorgue · 1st December 2023, 06:05 PM

Originally Posted by acbytesla

Are you sure about this? That doesn't seem likely to me.

That's what CNN is saying:

Quote:

Santos retains certain privileges: Unlike previous modern-day expulsions – of Democrat Michael Myers in 1980 and Democrat Jim Traficant in 2002 – Santos has not been convicted of a felony. House rules stipulate that until there is a conviction, Santos retains some privileges as a now-former member of Congress, including access to the House floor, dining room, gym and cloakroom but not security.

The expulsion resolution could have stripped Santos of those privileges, but there is no clause in the motion to do that. Both Traficant’s and Myer’s privileges were stripped immediately following the expulsion vote because they had been convicted of their crimes.

But that could change: The House makes rules changes all the time regarding privileges for former members. Privileges were stripped for former members during the Covid-19 pandemic, and floor privileges are usually restricted for former members for the State of the Union address. Should Santos 1) be expelled; and 2) continue to exercise the privileges as a former member, it's expected a rules change would come to address that issue.

TragicMonkey · 1st December 2023, 06:29 PM

I expect they'll bar him from the premises the second or third time he's caught stealing stuff from there.

Crossbow · 1st December 2023, 07:27 PM

Well, it only took those stupid, idiotic, lying Republicans three times to give that POS Santos the boot.

So, I guess that means if another Trump impeachment issue ever happens to reach the US House of Representatives, then Trump will finally get booted as well.

But in the meantime, I am glad that at least for the time being, there is one less POS in the House.

Gulliver Foyle · 2nd December 2023, 02:24 AM

Originally Posted by jaydeehess

How the hell did he get 100+ members to vote to not expell him. This should have been unanimous.

Well one is a child rapist who doesn't want precedent set. Another is one who lied to authorities to protect a different child rapist (and quite possibly is a child rapist himself) to ensure that child rapist (his boss) got off.

I'm sure if you looked at all those who voted to acquit, not one hasn't committed at least one serious crime.

kookbreaker · 2nd December 2023, 06:30 AM

The GOP members who voted against this are afraid those guns will be pointing at them soon enough.

The ones who voted for this did so because Santos made the mistake of stealing from rich people.

varwoche · 2nd December 2023, 07:11 AM

Phase 1: get elected
Phase 2: get booted
Phase 3: profit

He may have time to write a book, go on an apology tour, and star in a biopic before he winds up in prison.

JoeMorgue · 2nd December 2023, 02:59 PM

Assuming he stays out of prison there's a long career in being a talking head about how horrible the liberals treated him and oh by the way want to buy this 100 dollar a bottle male performance supplement for him.

Stacyhs · 2nd December 2023, 03:46 PM

I enjoyed watching Santos' name being removed from his (former) office.

acbytesla · 2nd December 2023, 04:21 PM

Originally Posted by JoeMorgue

Assuming he stays out of prison there's a long career in being a talking head about how horrible the liberals treated him and oh by the way want to buy this 100 dollar a bottle male performance supplement for him.

I don't think so. It's not like he's a macho testosterone filled heterosexual who hates the LGBT community. He ain't selling what Republicans are buying these days.

Stacyhs · 2nd December 2023, 04:26 PM

There's little chance that George won't get yet another name: Prisoner #34957390.

Gord_in_Toronto · 2nd December 2023, 08:32 PM

Originally Posted by varwoche

Phase 1: get elected
Phase 2: get booted
Phase 3: profit

He may have time to write a book, go on an apology tour, and star in a biopic before he winds up in prison.

Next Vice President?

P.J. Denyer · 3rd December 2023, 03:24 AM

Originally Posted by gnome

"Oh no, I lied to everyone to get into office and now that I'm accused of various crimes, nobody believes me! How did that happen?"

You know the story of "The Boy Who Cried Wolf"? Well, George Santos claims he wrote it.

Gord_in_Toronto · 3rd December 2023, 02:20 PM

Originally Posted by P.J. Denyer

You know the story of "The Boy Who Cried Wolf"? Well, George Santos claims he wrote it.

I understand Aesop is rising from the dead and going to sue for plagiarism.

gnome · 3rd December 2023, 10:40 PM

Originally Posted by acbytesla

I don't think so. It's not like he's a macho testosterone filled heterosexual who hates the LGBT community. He ain't selling what Republicans are buying these days.

Seems to be he'll be anyone he needs to be if there's a paycheck in it.

20th November 2023, 09:29 AM	#1001
Hans Philosopher Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 9,050	Originally Posted by Gulliver Foyle It's his own fault for running for office. It is an old truism that if you have something you want to hide, a secret you didn't want known - DON'T run for public office - because your opponents will do a search into your past well beyond what the police might do.
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27th November 2023, 05:18 AM	#1003
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27th November 2023, 08:41 PM	#1004
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1st December 2023, 08:59 AM	#1005
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1st December 2023, 09:01 AM	#1006
acbytesla Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 32,881	Originally Posted by Mike! Looks like he's getting a well deserved boot out of the house. Yeah, they crossed the 287 vote threshold. He's expelled.
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1st December 2023, 09:06 AM	#1007
acbytesla Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 32,881	It's official. George Santos has been expelled. There will be a special election to fill his seat.
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1st December 2023, 12:12 PM	#1008
Gord_in_Toronto Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 24,424	Originally Posted by acbytesla It's official. George Santos has been expelled. There will be a special election to fill his seat. Will Trvmp run for it?
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1st December 2023, 02:34 PM	#1009
jaydeehess Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: 40 miles north of the border Posts: 20,849	How the hell did he get 100+ members to vote to not expell him. This should have been unanimous.

1st December 2023, 02:53 PM	#1010
JoeMorgue Self Employed Remittance Man Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 46,102	"Since he was not convicted of a crime George Santos retains access to the House floor, dining room, gym and cloakroom but not security." So my biggest takeaway is that Congress has a Cloakroom and our Congress people don't wear cloaks. (Yes I'm sure it's just a glorified coatcheck room)
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1st December 2023, 03:08 PM	#1011
acbytesla Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 32,881	Originally Posted by JoeMorgue "Since he was not convicted of a crime George Santos retains access to the House floor, dining room, gym and cloakroom but not security." So my biggest takeaway is that Congress has a Cloakroom and our Congress people don't wear cloaks. (Yes I'm sure it's just a glorified coatcheck room) Are you sure about this? That doesn't seem likely to me. But it is not likely that Santos will walk back into that building except as a tourist 20 years from now.
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1st December 2023, 03:17 PM	#1012
gnome Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 14,493	Originally Posted by acbytesla Are you sure about this? That doesn't seem likely to me. But it is not likely that Santos will walk back into that building except as a tourist 20 years from now. Or for a Jan 6 2025 photo op.
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1st December 2023, 03:31 PM	#1013
Foster Zygote Dental Floss Tycoon Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,271	Originally Posted by jaydeehess How the hell did he get 100+ members to vote to not expell him. This should have been unanimous. Party before ethics.
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1st December 2023, 05:55 PM	#1014
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 32,229	Originally Posted by jaydeehess How the hell did he get 100+ members to vote to not expell him. This should have been unanimous. Keeping that GOP small majority from getting any smaller. A Dem is likely to take his vacant seat making it even tighter.

1st December 2023, 06:05 PM	#1015
JoeMorgue Self Employed Remittance Man Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 46,102	Originally Posted by acbytesla Are you sure about this? That doesn't seem likely to me. That's what CNN is saying: Quote: Santos retains certain privileges: Unlike previous modern-day expulsions – of Democrat Michael Myers in 1980 and Democrat Jim Traficant in 2002 – Santos has not been convicted of a felony. House rules stipulate that until there is a conviction, Santos retains some privileges as a now-former member of Congress, including access to the House floor, dining room, gym and cloakroom but not security. The expulsion resolution could have stripped Santos of those privileges, but there is no clause in the motion to do that. Both Traficant’s and Myer’s privileges were stripped immediately following the expulsion vote because they had been convicted of their crimes. But that could change: The House makes rules changes all the time regarding privileges for former members. Privileges were stripped for former members during the Covid-19 pandemic, and floor privileges are usually restricted for former members for the State of the Union address. Should Santos 1) be expelled; and 2) continue to exercise the privileges as a former member, it's expected a rules change would come to address that issue.
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1st December 2023, 06:29 PM	#1016
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1st December 2023, 07:27 PM	#1017
Crossbow Seeking Honesty and Sanity Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Charleston, WV Posts: 14,547	Well, it only took those stupid, idiotic, lying Republicans three times to give that POS Santos the boot. So, I guess that means if another Trump impeachment issue ever happens to reach the US House of Representatives, then Trump will finally get booted as well. But in the meantime, I am glad that at least for the time being, there is one less POS in the House.
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2nd December 2023, 02:24 AM	#1018
Gulliver Foyle Master Poster Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Cork baaaiii Posts: 2,835	Originally Posted by jaydeehess How the hell did he get 100+ members to vote to not expell him. This should have been unanimous. Well one is a child rapist who doesn't want precedent set. Another is one who lied to authorities to protect a different child rapist (and quite possibly is a child rapist himself) to ensure that child rapist (his boss) got off. I'm sure if you looked at all those who voted to acquit, not one hasn't committed at least one serious crime.
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2nd December 2023, 06:30 AM	#1019
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2nd December 2023, 07:11 AM	#1020
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2nd December 2023, 02:59 PM	#1021
JoeMorgue Self Employed Remittance Man Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 46,102	Assuming he stays out of prison there's a long career in being a talking head about how horrible the liberals treated him and oh by the way want to buy this 100 dollar a bottle male performance supplement for him.
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2nd December 2023, 03:46 PM	#1022
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 32,229	I enjoyed watching Santos' name being removed from his (former) office.

2nd December 2023, 04:21 PM	#1023
acbytesla Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 32,881	Originally Posted by JoeMorgue Assuming he stays out of prison there's a long career in being a talking head about how horrible the liberals treated him and oh by the way want to buy this 100 dollar a bottle male performance supplement for him. I don't think so. It's not like he's a macho testosterone filled heterosexual who hates the LGBT community. He ain't selling what Republicans are buying these days.
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2nd December 2023, 04:26 PM	#1024
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 32,229	There's little chance that George won't get yet another name: Prisoner #34957390.

2nd December 2023, 08:32 PM	#1025
Gord_in_Toronto Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 24,424	Originally Posted by varwoche Phase 1: get elected Phase 2: get booted Phase 3: profit He may have time to write a book, go on an apology tour, and star in a biopic before he winds up in prison. Next Vice President?
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3rd December 2023, 03:24 AM	#1026
P.J. Denyer Philosopher Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 9,904	Originally Posted by gnome "Oh no, I lied to everyone to get into office and now that I'm accused of various crimes, nobody believes me! How did that happen?" You know the story of "The Boy Who Cried Wolf"? Well, George Santos claims he wrote it.
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3rd December 2023, 02:20 PM	#1027
Gord_in_Toronto Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 24,424	Originally Posted by P.J. Denyer You know the story of "The Boy Who Cried Wolf"? Well, George Santos claims he wrote it. I understand Aesop is rising from the dead and going to sue for plagiarism.
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3rd December 2023, 10:40 PM	#1028
gnome Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 14,493	Originally Posted by acbytesla I don't think so. It's not like he's a macho testosterone filled heterosexual who hates the LGBT community. He ain't selling what Republicans are buying these days. Seems to be he'll be anyone he needs to be if there's a paycheck in it.
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