Charles III's coronation - Page 17

P.J. Denyer · 10th May 2023, 11:43 AM

Originally Posted by Darat

You have to be very careful, her essence of evil can't be destroyed all you can do is gather up her evil stone heart and throw it in a volcano, won't destroy it but will keep it from reaching out for new souls to devour.

Just don't nuke the volcano or we'll have a Sue Ellen Thetan to deal with!

The Don · 12th May 2023, 03:55 AM

Meanwhile some poor Royalist was handcuffed for looking a bit like a Stop Oil demonstrator.

Quote:

A royal fan who was mistaken for a protester and detained by police at the Coronation has spoken about her ordeal.

Alice Chambers was handcuffed and held for 13 hours when officers arrested Just Stop Oil protesters she happened to be standing near to on the Mall.

The architect told BBC Newsnight she was handcuffed, fingerprinted and questioned in a police station.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-65567316

Doubtless the government will throw the police under the bus but IMO there's little doubt that they rushed through legislation to ensure that the Coronation passed off without any opposition or demonstrations and this is the inevitable result.

We're back to the 70's and 80's when "undesirables" were regularly hassled and arrested for no discernible reason. As a teenager I was regularly followed and stopped on my way home from Labour Party meetings.

Darat · 12th May 2023, 05:21 AM

Originally Posted by The Don

Meanwhile some poor Royalist was handcuffed for looking a bit like a Stop Oil demonstrator.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-65567316

Doubtless the government will throw the police under the bus but IMO there's little doubt that they rushed through legislation to ensure that the Coronation passed off without any opposition or demonstrations and this is the inevitable result.

We're back to the 70's and 80's when "undesirables" were regularly hassled and arrested for no discernible reason. As a teenager I was regularly followed and stopped on my way home from Labour Party meetings.

The headline shows how insidious the inroads into our rights can be:

Coronation: Royal fan held for 13 hours after being mistaken for protester

Seems fair enough but if you think for a moment that headline assumes it would have been right to have arrested her if she had been a protestor.

We seem to be heading into a very unpleasant place. The only way I see this being reversed is when the "heartland" Tories who protest about the likes of HS2 and new developments start finding that they are being arrested for being a protestor.

jimbob · 12th May 2023, 07:40 AM

Originally Posted by Darat

The headline shows how insidious the inroads into our rights can be:

Coronation: Royal fan held for 13 hours after being mistaken for protester

Seems fair enough but if you think for a moment that headline assumes it would have been right to have arrested her if she had been a protestor.

We seem to be heading into a very unpleasant place. The only way I see this being reversed is when the "heartland" Tories who protest about the likes of HS2 and new developments start finding that they are being arrested for being a protestor.

Exactly.

Gulliver Foyle · 12th May 2023, 11:48 AM

Originally Posted by Darat

The headline shows how insidious the inroads into our rights can be:

Coronation: Royal fan held for 13 hours after being mistaken for protester

Seems fair enough but if you think for a moment that headline assumes it would have been right to have arrested her if she had been a protestor.

We seem to be heading into a very unpleasant place. The only way I see this being reversed is when the "heartland" Tories who protest about the likes of HS2 and new developments start finding that they are being arrested for being a protestor.

They won't be arrested in sufficient numbers to raise a stink until it's too late.

Mojo · 12th May 2023, 11:59 AM

Originally Posted by Darat

Seems fair enough but if you think for a moment that headline assumes it would have been right to have arrested her if she had been a protestor.

The new Public Order Act doesn't say anything about protests; it's all in terms of causing disruption or interference. The coronation caused massive disruption.

GlennB · 12th May 2023, 12:16 PM

Originally Posted by Mojo

The new Public Order Act doesn't say anything about protests; it's all in terms of causing disruption or interference. The coronation caused massive disruption.

Simples ... arrest Chuck and Cammie !

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12th May 2023, 05:21 AM	#643
Darat Lackey Administrator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: South East, UK Posts: 111,170	Originally Posted by The Don Meanwhile some poor Royalist was handcuffed for looking a bit like a Stop Oil demonstrator. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-65567316 Doubtless the government will throw the police under the bus but IMO there's little doubt that they rushed through legislation to ensure that the Coronation passed off without any opposition or demonstrations and this is the inevitable result. We're back to the 70's and 80's when "undesirables" were regularly hassled and arrested for no discernible reason. As a teenager I was regularly followed and stopped on my way home from Labour Party meetings. The headline shows how insidious the inroads into our rights can be: Coronation: Royal fan held for 13 hours after being mistaken for protester Seems fair enough but if you think for a moment that headline assumes it would have been right to have arrested her if she had been a protestor. We seem to be heading into a very unpleasant place. The only way I see this being reversed is when the "heartland" Tories who protest about the likes of HS2 and new developments start finding that they are being arrested for being a protestor.
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12th May 2023, 07:40 AM	#644
jimbob Uncritical "thinker" Moderator Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: UK Posts: 31,005	Originally Posted by Darat The headline shows how insidious the inroads into our rights can be: Coronation: Royal fan held for 13 hours after being mistaken for protester Seems fair enough but if you think for a moment that headline assumes it would have been right to have arrested her if she had been a protestor. We seem to be heading into a very unpleasant place. The only way I see this being reversed is when the "heartland" Tories who protest about the likes of HS2 and new developments start finding that they are being arrested for being a protestor. Exactly.
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Gulliver Foyle Master Poster Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Cork baaaiii Posts: 2,472	Originally Posted by Darat The headline shows how insidious the inroads into our rights can be: Coronation: Royal fan held for 13 hours after being mistaken for protester Seems fair enough but if you think for a moment that headline assumes it would have been right to have arrested her if she had been a protestor. We seem to be heading into a very unpleasant place. The only way I see this being reversed is when the "heartland" Tories who protest about the likes of HS2 and new developments start finding that they are being arrested for being a protestor. They won't be arrested in sufficient numbers to raise a stink until it's too late.
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12th May 2023, 11:59 AM	#646
Mojo Mostly harmless Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Nor Flanden Posts: 37,641	Originally Posted by Darat Seems fair enough but if you think for a moment that headline assumes it would have been right to have arrested her if she had been a protestor. The new Public Order Act doesn't say anything about protests; it's all in terms of causing disruption or interference. The coronation caused massive disruption.
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12th May 2023, 03:55 AM	#642
The Don Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Sir Fynwy Posts: 36,977	Meanwhile some poor Royalist was handcuffed for looking a bit like a Stop Oil demonstrator. Quote: A royal fan who was mistaken for a protester and detained by police at the Coronation has spoken about her ordeal. Alice Chambers was handcuffed and held for 13 hours when officers arrested Just Stop Oil protesters she happened to be standing near to on the Mall. The architect told BBC Newsnight she was handcuffed, fingerprinted and questioned in a police station. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-65567316 Doubtless the government will throw the police under the bus but IMO there's little doubt that they rushed through legislation to ensure that the Coronation passed off without any opposition or demonstrations and this is the inevitable result. We're back to the 70's and 80's when "undesirables" were regularly hassled and arrested for no discernible reason. As a teenager I was regularly followed and stopped on my way home from Labour Party meetings.

12th May 2023, 12:16 PM	#647
GlennB Loggerheaded, earth-vexing fustilarian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Wales Posts: 30,352	Originally Posted by Mojo The new Public Order Act doesn't say anything about protests; it's all in terms of causing disruption or interference. The coronation caused massive disruption. Simples ... arrest Chuck and Cammie !