Charles III's coronation - Page 7

novaphile · 13th April 2023, 06:14 PM

Originally Posted by TragicMonkey

The real Spiderman is going to Charles's coronation, of course; he's a shameless social climber and wants to be made Sir Spiderman some day. J Jonah Jameson will be super mad when that happens! Aunt May was invited but won't attend, she's having her cat resurfaced so it repels water better.

I see what you did there.

Susheel · 14th April 2023, 12:14 AM

Originally Posted by aniri

Very funny. But I'll stop this conversation now.

aniri....meet TragicMonkey purveyor of tales and whimsy.

Carrot Flower King · 14th April 2023, 02:03 AM

Originally Posted by Susheel

aniri....meet TragicMonkey purveyor of tales and whimsy.

And in this instance less daft than the actual event in question.

Vixen · 14th April 2023, 06:55 AM

Originally Posted by Susheel

aniri....meet TragicMonkey purveyor of tales and whimsy.

Shame for some he is not a purveyor of ales and whisky as well.

Vixen · 14th April 2023, 06:57 AM

Hey guys, I am so incredibly excited! I have ordered some Coronation Chinaware from RCT shop including some 'limited edition' plates!!! I have no idea how many are available but depending on how 'limited' the numbers are before they sell out, should be a good investment opportunity if you like that type of thing.

Myriad · 14th April 2023, 07:50 AM

Originally Posted by Vixen

Hey guys, I am so incredibly excited! I have ordered some Coronation Chinaware from RCT shop including some 'limited edition' plates!!! I have no idea how many are available but depending on how 'limited' the numbers are before they sell out, should be a good investment opportunity if you like that type of thing.

I like the Royal Collection Shop plates better than the Royal Collection Trust ones.

Either way, you get to plop pot roast, peas, and mashed potatoes onto the Royal Coat of Arms at dinnertime.

Vixen · 15th April 2023, 04:10 AM

Originally Posted by Myriad

I like the Royal Collection Shop plates better than the Royal Collection Trust ones.

Either way, you get to plop pot roast, peas, and mashed potatoes onto the Royal Coat of Arms at dinnertime.

I note the limited edition (1,000) plates are now out of stock. That is a relief as I had a sudden fear that Charles and Camilla are so hated that they would remain unwanted and thus unsaleable* should one ever need to go on eBay. Looks like the coffee mug and various other items are already out of stock, too.

*I still have some first day stamp issues of their wedding as no-one on eBay was interested in them.

catsmate · 15th April 2023, 04:12 AM

Much miffedness in the right-wing UKian press over the lack of Biden.

TragicMonkey · 15th April 2023, 05:47 AM

Originally Posted by catsmate

Much miffedness in the right-wing UKian press over the lack of Biden.

Is Putin attending? I read in a gossip column that those two aren't on good terms at the moment, something to do with a crane. Celebrities and their drama!

P.J. Denyer · 15th April 2023, 06:08 AM

TragicMonkey - If I'm ever crowned King may I formally appoint you Chief Coronation Organiser& Master of Ceremonies?

TragicMonkey · 15th April 2023, 07:26 AM

Originally Posted by P.J. Denyer

TragicMonkey - If I'm ever crowned King may I formally appoint you Chief Coronation Organiser& Master of Ceremonies?

Yes, but only if it doesn't conflict with Prince Harry's coronation. I'm convinced that at some point he's going to pull a coup and overthrow his evil brother. I know what you're going to say: what about Kate's magic powers? Can't she defend against overthrowization? The answer is no, because Meghan Markle is an American and as an American she gets +50 to her base gunplay skill. Kate's magic simply can't compete.

Craig4 · 16th April 2023, 12:26 AM

Originally Posted by catsmate

Much miffedness in the right-wing UKian press over the lack of Biden.

The UK cannot seriously expect our president to attend a coronation. Does anyone really need to point out the visuals to them on our president attending a British coronation (or any coronation really)? You all do you but this royalty thing is foundationally not us.

catsmate · 16th April 2023, 02:20 AM

Originally Posted by Craig4

The UK cannot seriously expect our president to attend a coronation. Does anyone really need to point out the visuals to them on our president attending a British coronation (or any coronation really)? You all do you but this royalty thing is foundationally not us.

Less of the "you" please, mind your pronouns.......

Many of the UKian right suffer from the Imperial Delusion, hence the bollocks spouted by idiots like Nick Timothy.

Gulliver Foyle · 16th April 2023, 05:49 AM

Originally Posted by Myriad

I like the Royal Collection Shop plates better than the Royal Collection Trust ones.

Either way, you get to plop pot roast, peas, and mashed potatoes onto the Royal Coat of Arms at dinnertime.

I ordered mine from Gnomemart, they've guaranteed the picture of Charles won't wash off to reveal a picture of Diana for at least a year.

Now that's value!

Nessie · 16th April 2023, 06:57 AM

My attitude to the coronation, man gets new hat.

Mashuna · 16th April 2023, 12:09 PM

Originally Posted by Nessie

My attitude to the coronation, man gets new hat.

Or an old one of dubious provenance.

catsmate · 16th April 2023, 01:30 PM

Too much religion....
I do see that apathy towards the coronation is pretty common in the UK.

Chanakya · 16th April 2023, 07:19 PM

Do they still do the symbol thing, the escutcheon thing (if I've got the word right)? If so, Charles should commission an escutcheon that says, in appropriately solemn-sounding gravitas-laden Latin, 'Finally, at long last!'

You can't help feeling just a bit sorry for him. How many thousands of nights he must've spent dreaming of just this, only to find, the next morning, his sprightly nanogeneranian mother doing squats and barbells in the gym, or whatever royals do to keep living forever. ...And now, finally his dream's going to come true. Bet you he pinches himself every time he wakes up from sleep.

arthwollipot · 16th April 2023, 07:42 PM

Charles inherits the Coat of Arms and the Royal Standard of the United Kingdom. The escutcheon is the shield on which the arms is displayed, so yeah, you've got the word wrong

.

You're thinking of the motto.

What's a motto?

Nothing! What's a motto with you?

Ha ha.

GlennB · 17th April 2023, 03:14 AM

Originally Posted by catsmate

Too much religion....
I do see that apathy towards the coronation is pretty common in the UK.

Yeah. I get the impression that for QEII it was bunting and street parties, left right and centre. No sign of anything like that being planned round my way.

Darat · 17th April 2023, 03:41 AM

Originally Posted by GlennB

Yeah. I get the impression that for QEII it was bunting and street parties, left right and centre. No sign of anything like that being planned round my way.

Always remember that by now it's the "propaganda" story that becomes the current popular narrative. Look at how it is now the "Blitz spirit" and "we all came together" and "Churchill the bestest ever Britan" The vast black market, widespread looting, resentment, crime rates and so on is now side-lined.

Saying that I think it is clear that there was hell of a lot more enthusiasm back then, but that's hardly surprising, there wasn't anything else to report on.

Double saying that, I do know there are several street parties happening, other neighbours doing something in their gardens and so on. Bunting is being applied to anything that doesn't move even - what to me seems rather poor taste - all around the cemetery fence!

Ryan O'Dine · 17th April 2023, 05:03 AM

Originally Posted by Darat

Always remember that by now it's the "propaganda" story that becomes the current popular narrative. Look at how it is now the "Blitz spirit" and "we all came together" and "Churchill the bestest ever Britan" The vast black market, widespread looting, resentment, crime rates and so on is now side-lined.

Saying that I think it is clear that there was hell of a lot more enthusiasm back then, but that's hardly surprising, there wasn't anything else to report on.

Double saying that, I do know there are several street parties happening, other neighbours doing something in their gardens and so on. Bunting is being applied to anything that doesn't move even - what to me seems rather poor taste - all around the cemetery fence!

It would be more interesting and celebratory if they only put bunting between things that moved.

Darat · 17th April 2023, 05:17 AM

Originally Posted by Ryan O'Dine

It would be more interesting and celebratory if they only put bunting between things that moved.

They have started with that, several council vehicles already decked out. Soon you'll not be able to step outdoors without being bunted!

wobs · 17th April 2023, 06:08 AM

I've seen nothing here so far. We normally don't need much excuse to have a tenfoot* party on our street, but no plans thus far.
Looking at bargain shops, there is little in the way of bunting/flags etc for sale.

* - Tenfoot = local term for a back ally big enough for a car to get down.

GlennB · 17th April 2023, 09:22 AM

Seems the coronation culinary speciality has been chosen by Chas and Cammy. It's 'Coronation Quiche' or flan. Yum ????
(Vegans can forget it, as it contains lard, eggs, milk, cream, cheese and other stuff.)

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TragicMonkey · 17th April 2023, 09:25 AM

Originally Posted by GlennB

Yeah. I get the impression that for QEII it was bunting and street parties, left right and centre. No sign of anything like that being planned round my way.

Well, to be fair, at the time of her coronation Elizabeth was 25 and hot. Charles is 103 and looks like a garden gnome partially dissolved by decades of acid rain.

Trebuchet · 17th April 2023, 09:41 AM

Originally Posted by TragicMonkey

Well, to be fair, at the time of her coronation Elizabeth was 25 and hot. Charles is 103 and looks like a garden gnome partially dissolved by decades of acid rain.

Chuck is actually a little younger than me, and get the hell off my lawn!

Chanakya · 18th April 2023, 07:27 AM

Originally Posted by arthwollipot

Charles inherits the Coat of Arms and the Royal Standard of the United Kingdom. The escutcheon is the shield on which the arms is displayed, so yeah, you've got the word wrong

.

You're thinking of the motto.

What's a motto?

Nothing! What's a motto with you?

Ha ha.

Right you are, the escutcheon is actually the shield, apparently, or rather the surface of the shield on which sits the coat-of-arms. (I looked up Britannica and Wiki, although I'm not linking to them.) Funny thing, apparently women (that is to say, Ladies, capital L) get escutcheons too, except they get lozenges, because they're ladies not rude if ennobled soldiers.

You're right, I suppose I must have been thinking of mottos. (Not that a quick check on "mottos" threw up anything, and I didn't bother "researching" by digging any deeper than that.) You know, like those stories you read as children, when Ivanhoe goes around with "Disinherited" written on his shield, because his father disapproved of step-sister-porn, at least when attempted within his own household, and so kicked him out. (Okay, foster-sister, not step-sister, but whatever.) So, my point is, clearly these guys got to write their own "mottos" on their own escutcheons, right? If Ivanhoe could do it, then why can't Charles? And "Finally, at long last" isn't all that different from "Disinherited", really, in fact it's kind of more upbeat and hopeful, right?

Chanakya · 18th April 2023, 07:31 AM

Originally Posted by Trebuchet

Chuck is actually a little younger than me, and get the hell off my lawn!

Age has nothing to do with it. Royalty brings with it its own privileges, that a commoner like you can never live up to, no matter these spurious similarities in inconsequential things like age that you share with that august personage. After all, you don't look like "a garden gnome partially dissolved by decades of acid rain", do you?

Darat · 18th April 2023, 07:39 AM

Originally Posted by GlennB

Seems the coronation culinary speciality has been chosen by Chas and Cammy. It's 'Coronation Quiche' or flan. Yum ????
(Vegans can forget it, as it contains lard, eggs, milk, cream, cheese and other stuff.)

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A flan? How well insipid is the word I think, which does match the rest of this farce. I suspect this will be as quickly forgotten as the platinum pudding - something I didn't even knew existed until now.

ETA: you know what, it really is a good choice, with the use of lard it helps demonstrate how totally out of touch they are with the rest of the country. Folk simply don't use it any longer, I suspect most folk under 60 would struggle to identify it at their supermarket (yes it is still sold, as ever this is a generalisation), plus what a waste - it will be sold in a 250g block and folk only need 25g. Great when we are in the midst of the worse cost-of-living-crisis since the war (which one is never identified) and everyone wanting to cut down on food waste - let's get folk to buy an ingredient that they won't use in anything else and will chuck away 90%. Bah humbug.

zooterkin · 18th April 2023, 07:56 AM

Originally Posted by Darat

A flan? How well insipid is the word I think, which does match the rest of this farce. I suspect this will be as quickly forgotten as the platinum pudding - something I didn't even knew existed until now.

ETA: you know what, it really is a good choice, with the use of lard it helps demonstrate how totally out of touch they are with the rest of the country. Folk simply don't use it any longer, I suspect most folk under 60 would struggle to identify it at their supermarket (yes it is still sold, as ever this is a generalisation), plus what a waste - it will be sold in a 250g block and folk only need 25g. Great when we are in the midst of the worse cost-of-living-crisis since the war (which one is never identified) and everyone wanting to cut down on food waste - let's get folk to buy an ingredient that they won't use in anything else and will chuck away 90%. Bah humbug.

Not to mention that pig fat is ruled out for Jews and Muslims; so much for his 'defender of all the faiths' idea.

P.J. Denyer · 18th April 2023, 10:25 AM

Originally Posted by Darat

A flan? How well insipid is the word I think, which does match the rest of this farce. I suspect this will be as quickly forgotten as the platinum pudding - something I didn't even knew existed until now.

ETA: you know what, it really is a good choice, with the use of lard it helps demonstrate how totally out of touch they are with the rest of the country. Folk simply don't use it any longer, I suspect most folk under 60 would struggle to identify it at their supermarket (yes it is still sold, as ever this is a generalisation), plus what a waste - it will be sold in a 250g block and folk only need 25g. Great when we are in the midst of the worse cost-of-living-crisis since the war (which one is never identified) and everyone wanting to cut down on food waste - let's get folk to buy an ingredient that they won't use in anything else and will chuck away 90%. Bah humbug.

I actually bought some last week! (I had a sudden hankering for Toad in the Hole)

ETA: For non-British forumites, I should probably explain that Toad in the Hole is a traditional British dish of sausages cooked in a Yorkshire Pudding batter that requires a high temperature fat due to being cooked in a very hot oven, not, as it might sound, an activity learned by Tory MPs at public school requiring a high temperature fat to avoid chaffing.

TragicMonkey · 18th April 2023, 11:56 AM

So what role does this Coronation Quiche, or Flan, play in the ceremony? Does Charles have to eat his own weight in it? Does he wade through a pool full of it to claim Excalibur? Does Camilla get baked into a giant one and she pops out and yells "Surprise!" at the critical moment? Or does everyone just find one underneath their folding chairs like at an Oprah taping?

Vixen · 18th April 2023, 12:35 PM

Originally Posted by Chanakya

Right you are, the escutcheon is actually the shield, apparently, or rather the surface of the shield on which sits the coat-of-arms. (I looked up Britannica and Wiki, although I'm not linking to them.) Funny thing, apparently women (that is to say, Ladies, capital L) get escutcheons too, except they get lozenges, because they're ladies not rude if ennobled soldiers.

You're right, I suppose I must have been thinking of mottos. (Not that a quick check on "mottos" threw up anything, and I didn't bother "researching" by digging any deeper than that.) You know, like those stories you read as children, when Ivanhoe goes around with "Disinherited" written on his shield, because his father disapproved of step-sister-porn, at least when attempted within his own household, and so kicked him out. (Okay, foster-sister, not step-sister, but whatever.) So, my point is, clearly these guys got to write their own "mottos" on their own escutcheons, right? If Ivanhoe could do it, then why can't Charles? And "Finally, at long last" isn't all that different from "Disinherited", really, in fact it's kind of more upbeat and hopeful, right?

The Monarch already has a motto handed down which is, 'mon dieu et mon droit' basically a nod to the divine right of the sovereign to reign over us.

Swedish, Baltic German and Finnish nobility don't/didn't have mottos for their coats of arms AFAIAA.

Vixen · 18th April 2023, 12:36 PM

Originally Posted by zooterkin

Not to mention that pig fat is ruled out for Jews and Muslims; so much for his 'defender of all the faiths' idea.

Surely, just the Defender of THE Faith (aka: 'keep out the Catholics')?

ETA: Ah, you think he is trying to be inclusive?

GlennB · 18th April 2023, 12:48 PM

Originally Posted by Vixen

The Monarch already has a motto handed down which is, '~~mon~~ dieu et mon droit' basically a nod to the divine right of the sovereign to reign over us.

Swedish, Baltic German and Finnish nobility don't/didn't have mottos for their coats of arms AFAIAA.

ftfy

Dieu et mon droit^WP

dudalb · 18th April 2023, 01:30 PM

Originally Posted by TragicMonkey

The real Spiderman is going to Charles's coronation, of course; he's a shameless social climber and wants to be made Sir Spiderman some day. J Jonah Jameson will be super mad when that happens! Aunt May was invited but won't attend, she's having her cat resurfaced so it repels water better.

Given that Spidey almost wrecked the Tower of London fighnint Mysterio last time he was in London....

gypsyjackson · 18th April 2023, 10:32 PM

Originally Posted by Vixen

Surely, just the Defender of THE Faith (aka: 'keep out the Catholics')?

ETA: Ah, you think he is trying to be inclusive?

He’s been saying he wants to be inclusive since 1994 - the right wing tabloids back then went mad when he said he wanted to be Defender of Faiths - after all that would mean changing the coronation oath.

I gather in Canada that clause has been dropped altogether.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...nder-of-faiths

ETA - tarragon quiche sounds quite nice; add some shallots or red onions for a bit of pungent bite. Just make your short crust pastry with a mix of butter and vegetable shortening if you want to avoid having pig in it. Vegans are SOL though.

zooterkin · 18th April 2023, 10:35 PM

Originally Posted by Vixen

Surely, just the Defender of THE Faith (aka: 'keep out the Catholics')?

A common misconception, but the title was in fact granted to Henry VIII by the Pope, before the falling out.

zooterkin · 18th April 2023, 10:37 PM

Originally Posted by Vixen

The Monarch already has a motto handed down which is, 'mon dieu et mon droit' basically a nod to the divine right of the sovereign to reign over us.

Mange tout, Rodney, mange tout.

13th April 2023, 06:14 PM	#241
novaphile Quester of Doglets Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Sunny South Australia Posts: 5,652	Originally Posted by TragicMonkey The real Spiderman is going to Charles's coronation, of course; he's a shameless social climber and wants to be made Sir Spiderman some day. J Jonah Jameson will be super mad when that happens! Aunt May was invited but won't attend, she's having her cat resurfaced so it repels water better. I see what you did there.
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14th April 2023, 12:14 AM	#242
Susheel Illuminator Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Hyderabad, India Posts: 3,292	Originally Posted by aniri Very funny. But I'll stop this conversation now. aniri....meet TragicMonkey purveyor of tales and whimsy.
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14th April 2023, 06:55 AM	#244
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14th April 2023, 06:57 AM	#245
Vixen Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 33,526	Hey guys, I am so incredibly excited! I have ordered some Coronation Chinaware from RCT shop including some 'limited edition' plates!!! I have no idea how many are available but depending on how 'limited' the numbers are before they sell out, should be a good investment opportunity if you like that type of thing.
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14th April 2023, 07:50 AM	#246
Myriad The Clarity Is Devastating Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Betwixt Posts: 20,573	Originally Posted by Vixen Hey guys, I am so incredibly excited! I have ordered some Coronation Chinaware from RCT shop including some 'limited edition' plates!!! I have no idea how many are available but depending on how 'limited' the numbers are before they sell out, should be a good investment opportunity if you like that type of thing. I like the Royal Collection Shop plates better than the Royal Collection Trust ones. Either way, you get to plop pot roast, peas, and mashed potatoes onto the Royal Coat of Arms at dinnertime.
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14th April 2023, 02:03 AM	#243
Carrot Flower King Illuminator Join Date: Mar 2020 Location: Northumberland, UK Posts: 4,053	Originally Posted by Susheel aniri....meet TragicMonkey purveyor of tales and whimsy. And in this instance less daft than the actual event in question.

15th April 2023, 04:10 AM	#247
Vixen Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 33,526	Originally Posted by Myriad I like the Royal Collection Shop plates better than the Royal Collection Trust ones. Either way, you get to plop pot roast, peas, and mashed potatoes onto the Royal Coat of Arms at dinnertime. I note the limited edition (1,000) plates are now out of stock. That is a relief as I had a sudden fear that Charles and Camilla are so hated that they would remain unwanted and thus unsaleable* should one ever need to go on eBay. Looks like the coffee mug and various other items are already out of stock, too. *I still have some first day stamp issues of their wedding as no-one on eBay was interested in them.
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15th April 2023, 04:12 AM	#248
catsmate No longer the 1 Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 29,353	Much miffedness in the right-wing UKian press over the lack of Biden.
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15th April 2023, 05:47 AM	#249
TragicMonkey Poisoned Waffles Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Monkey Posts: 67,070	Originally Posted by catsmate Much miffedness in the right-wing UKian press over the lack of Biden. Is Putin attending? I read in a gossip column that those two aren't on good terms at the moment, something to do with a crane. Celebrities and their drama!
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15th April 2023, 06:08 AM	#250
P.J. Denyer Philosopher Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 9,549	TragicMonkey - If I'm ever crowned King may I formally appoint you Chief Coronation Organiser& Master of Ceremonies?
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15th April 2023, 07:26 AM	#251
TragicMonkey Poisoned Waffles Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Monkey Posts: 67,070	Originally Posted by P.J. Denyer TragicMonkey - If I'm ever crowned King may I formally appoint you Chief Coronation Organiser& Master of Ceremonies? Yes, but only if it doesn't conflict with Prince Harry's coronation. I'm convinced that at some point he's going to pull a coup and overthrow his evil brother. I know what you're going to say: what about Kate's magic powers? Can't she defend against overthrowization? The answer is no, because Meghan Markle is an American and as an American she gets +50 to her base gunplay skill. Kate's magic simply can't compete.
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16th April 2023, 12:26 AM	#252
Craig4 Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: I live in a swamp Posts: 27,397	Originally Posted by catsmate Much miffedness in the right-wing UKian press over the lack of Biden. The UK cannot seriously expect our president to attend a coronation. Does anyone really need to point out the visuals to them on our president attending a British coronation (or any coronation really)? You all do you but this royalty thing is foundationally not us.
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16th April 2023, 02:20 AM	#253
catsmate No longer the 1 Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 29,353	Originally Posted by Craig4 The UK cannot seriously expect our president to attend a coronation. Does anyone really need to point out the visuals to them on our president attending a British coronation (or any coronation really)? You all do you but this royalty thing is foundationally not us. Less of the "you" please, mind your pronouns....... Many of the UKian right suffer from the Imperial Delusion, hence the bollocks spouted by idiots like Nick Timothy.
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16th April 2023, 05:49 AM	#254
Gulliver Foyle Master Poster Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Cork baaaiii Posts: 2,472	Originally Posted by Myriad I like the Royal Collection Shop plates better than the Royal Collection Trust ones. Either way, you get to plop pot roast, peas, and mashed potatoes onto the Royal Coat of Arms at dinnertime. I ordered mine from Gnomemart, they've guaranteed the picture of Charles won't wash off to reveal a picture of Diana for at least a year. Now that's value!

16th April 2023, 06:57 AM	#255
Nessie Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 14,910	My attitude to the coronation, man gets new hat.
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16th April 2023, 12:09 PM	#256
Mashuna Ovis ex Machina Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Sir Ddinbych Posts: 6,984	Originally Posted by Nessie My attitude to the coronation, man gets new hat. Or an old one of dubious provenance.
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16th April 2023, 01:30 PM	#257
catsmate No longer the 1 Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 29,353	Too much religion.... I do see that apathy towards the coronation is pretty common in the UK.
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16th April 2023, 07:19 PM	#258
Chanakya Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 4,441	Do they still do the symbol thing, the escutcheon thing (if I've got the word right)? If so, Charles should commission an escutcheon that says, in appropriately solemn-sounding gravitas-laden Latin, 'Finally, at long last!' You can't help feeling just a bit sorry for him. How many thousands of nights he must've spent dreaming of just this, only to find, the next morning, his sprightly nanogeneranian mother doing squats and barbells in the gym, or whatever royals do to keep living forever. ...And now, finally his dream's going to come true. Bet you he pinches himself every time he wakes up from sleep.
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16th April 2023, 07:42 PM	#259
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17th April 2023, 03:14 AM	#260
GlennB Loggerheaded, earth-vexing fustilarian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Wales Posts: 30,352	Originally Posted by catsmate Too much religion.... I do see that apathy towards the coronation is pretty common in the UK. Yeah. I get the impression that for QEII it was bunting and street parties, left right and centre. No sign of anything like that being planned round my way.

17th April 2023, 03:41 AM	#261
Darat Lackey Administrator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: South East, UK Posts: 111,170	Originally Posted by GlennB Yeah. I get the impression that for QEII it was bunting and street parties, left right and centre. No sign of anything like that being planned round my way. Always remember that by now it's the "propaganda" story that becomes the current popular narrative. Look at how it is now the "Blitz spirit" and "we all came together" and "Churchill the bestest ever Britan" The vast black market, widespread looting, resentment, crime rates and so on is now side-lined. Saying that I think it is clear that there was hell of a lot more enthusiasm back then, but that's hardly surprising, there wasn't anything else to report on. Double saying that, I do know there are several street parties happening, other neighbours doing something in their gardens and so on. Bunting is being applied to anything that doesn't move even - what to me seems rather poor taste - all around the cemetery fence!
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17th April 2023, 05:03 AM	#262
Ryan O'Dine OD’ing on Damitol Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Walk in an ever expanding Archimedean spiral and you'll find me eventually Posts: 2,313	Originally Posted by Darat Always remember that by now it's the "propaganda" story that becomes the current popular narrative. Look at how it is now the "Blitz spirit" and "we all came together" and "Churchill the bestest ever Britan" The vast black market, widespread looting, resentment, crime rates and so on is now side-lined. Saying that I think it is clear that there was hell of a lot more enthusiasm back then, but that's hardly surprising, there wasn't anything else to report on. Double saying that, I do know there are several street parties happening, other neighbours doing something in their gardens and so on. Bunting is being applied to anything that doesn't move even - what to me seems rather poor taste - all around the cemetery fence! It would be more interesting and celebratory if they only put bunting between things that moved.
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17th April 2023, 05:17 AM	#263
Darat Lackey Administrator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: South East, UK Posts: 111,170	Originally Posted by Ryan O'Dine It would be more interesting and celebratory if they only put bunting between things that moved. They have started with that, several council vehicles already decked out. Soon you'll not be able to step outdoors without being bunted!
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17th April 2023, 06:08 AM	#264
wobs Illuminator Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Hull Posts: 3,104	I've seen nothing here so far. We normally don't need much excuse to have a tenfoot* party on our street, but no plans thus far. Looking at bargain shops, there is little in the way of bunting/flags etc for sale. * - Tenfoot = local term for a back ally big enough for a car to get down.
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17th April 2023, 09:22 AM	#265
GlennB Loggerheaded, earth-vexing fustilarian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Wales Posts: 30,352	Seems the coronation culinary speciality has been chosen by Chas and Cammy. It's 'Coronation Quiche' or flan. Yum ???? (Vegans can forget it, as it contains lard, eggs, milk, cream, cheese and other stuff.) The Guardian

17th April 2023, 09:25 AM	#266
TragicMonkey Poisoned Waffles Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Monkey Posts: 67,070	Originally Posted by GlennB Yeah. I get the impression that for QEII it was bunting and street parties, left right and centre. No sign of anything like that being planned round my way. Well, to be fair, at the time of her coronation Elizabeth was 25 and hot. Charles is 103 and looks like a garden gnome partially dissolved by decades of acid rain.
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17th April 2023, 09:41 AM	#267
Trebuchet Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Port Townsend, Washington Posts: 37,699	Originally Posted by TragicMonkey Well, to be fair, at the time of her coronation Elizabeth was 25 and hot. Charles is 103 and looks like a garden gnome partially dissolved by decades of acid rain. Chuck is actually a little younger than me, and get the hell off my lawn!
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18th April 2023, 07:27 AM	#268
Chanakya Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 4,441	Originally Posted by arthwollipot Charles inherits the Coat of Arms and the Royal Standard of the United Kingdom. The escutcheon is the shield on which the arms is displayed, so yeah, you've got the word wrong . You're thinking of the motto. What's a motto? Nothing! What's a motto with you? Ha ha. Right you are, the escutcheon is actually the shield, apparently, or rather the surface of the shield on which sits the coat-of-arms. (I looked up Britannica and Wiki, although I'm not linking to them.) Funny thing, apparently women (that is to say, Ladies, capital L) get escutcheons too, except they get lozenges, because they're ladies not rude if ennobled soldiers. You're right, I suppose I must have been thinking of mottos. (Not that a quick check on "mottos" threw up anything, and I didn't bother "researching" by digging any deeper than that.) You know, like those stories you read as children, when Ivanhoe goes around with "Disinherited" written on his shield, because his father disapproved of step-sister-porn, at least when attempted within his own household, and so kicked him out. (Okay, foster-sister, not step-sister, but whatever.) So, my point is, clearly these guys got to write their own "mottos" on their own escutcheons, right? If Ivanhoe could do it, then why can't Charles? And "Finally, at long last" isn't all that different from "Disinherited", really, in fact it's kind of more upbeat and hopeful, right?
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18th April 2023, 07:31 AM	#269
Chanakya Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 4,441	Originally Posted by Trebuchet Chuck is actually a little younger than me, and get the hell off my lawn! Age has nothing to do with it. Royalty brings with it its own privileges, that a commoner like you can never live up to, no matter these spurious similarities in inconsequential things like age that you share with that august personage. After all, you don't look like "a garden gnome partially dissolved by decades of acid rain", do you?
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18th April 2023, 07:39 AM	#270
Darat Lackey Administrator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: South East, UK Posts: 111,170	Originally Posted by GlennB Seems the coronation culinary speciality has been chosen by Chas and Cammy. It's 'Coronation Quiche' or flan. Yum ???? (Vegans can forget it, as it contains lard, eggs, milk, cream, cheese and other stuff.) The Guardian A flan? How well insipid is the word I think, which does match the rest of this farce. I suspect this will be as quickly forgotten as the platinum pudding - something I didn't even knew existed until now. ETA: you know what, it really is a good choice, with the use of lard it helps demonstrate how totally out of touch they are with the rest of the country. Folk simply don't use it any longer, I suspect most folk under 60 would struggle to identify it at their supermarket (yes it is still sold, as ever this is a generalisation), plus what a waste - it will be sold in a 250g block and folk only need 25g. Great when we are in the midst of the worse cost-of-living-crisis since the war (which one is never identified) and everyone wanting to cut down on food waste - let's get folk to buy an ingredient that they won't use in anything else and will chuck away 90%. Bah humbug.
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18th April 2023, 07:56 AM	#271
zooterkin Nitpicking dilettante Administrator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Berkshire, mostly Posts: 56,494	Originally Posted by Darat A flan? How well insipid is the word I think, which does match the rest of this farce. I suspect this will be as quickly forgotten as the platinum pudding - something I didn't even knew existed until now. ETA: you know what, it really is a good choice, with the use of lard it helps demonstrate how totally out of touch they are with the rest of the country. Folk simply don't use it any longer, I suspect most folk under 60 would struggle to identify it at their supermarket (yes it is still sold, as ever this is a generalisation), plus what a waste - it will be sold in a 250g block and folk only need 25g. Great when we are in the midst of the worse cost-of-living-crisis since the war (which one is never identified) and everyone wanting to cut down on food waste - let's get folk to buy an ingredient that they won't use in anything else and will chuck away 90%. Bah humbug. Not to mention that pig fat is ruled out for Jews and Muslims; so much for his 'defender of all the faiths' idea.
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18th April 2023, 10:25 AM	#272
P.J. Denyer Philosopher Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 9,549	Originally Posted by Darat A flan? How well insipid is the word I think, which does match the rest of this farce. I suspect this will be as quickly forgotten as the platinum pudding - something I didn't even knew existed until now. ETA: you know what, it really is a good choice, with the use of lard it helps demonstrate how totally out of touch they are with the rest of the country. Folk simply don't use it any longer, I suspect most folk under 60 would struggle to identify it at their supermarket (yes it is still sold, as ever this is a generalisation), plus what a waste - it will be sold in a 250g block and folk only need 25g. Great when we are in the midst of the worse cost-of-living-crisis since the war (which one is never identified) and everyone wanting to cut down on food waste - let's get folk to buy an ingredient that they won't use in anything else and will chuck away 90%. Bah humbug. I actually bought some last week! (I had a sudden hankering for Toad in the Hole) ETA: For non-British forumites, I should probably explain that Toad in the Hole is a traditional British dish of sausages cooked in a Yorkshire Pudding batter that requires a high temperature fat due to being cooked in a very hot oven, not, as it might sound, an activity learned by Tory MPs at public school requiring a high temperature fat to avoid chaffing.
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18th April 2023, 11:56 AM	#273
TragicMonkey Poisoned Waffles Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Monkey Posts: 67,070	So what role does this Coronation Quiche, or Flan, play in the ceremony? Does Charles have to eat his own weight in it? Does he wade through a pool full of it to claim Excalibur? Does Camilla get baked into a giant one and she pops out and yells "Surprise!" at the critical moment? Or does everyone just find one underneath their folding chairs like at an Oprah taping?
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18th April 2023, 12:35 PM	#274
Vixen Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 33,526	Originally Posted by Chanakya Right you are, the escutcheon is actually the shield, apparently, or rather the surface of the shield on which sits the coat-of-arms. (I looked up Britannica and Wiki, although I'm not linking to them.) Funny thing, apparently women (that is to say, Ladies, capital L) get escutcheons too, except they get lozenges, because they're ladies not rude if ennobled soldiers. You're right, I suppose I must have been thinking of mottos. (Not that a quick check on "mottos" threw up anything, and I didn't bother "researching" by digging any deeper than that.) You know, like those stories you read as children, when Ivanhoe goes around with "Disinherited" written on his shield, because his father disapproved of step-sister-porn, at least when attempted within his own household, and so kicked him out. (Okay, foster-sister, not step-sister, but whatever.) So, my point is, clearly these guys got to write their own "mottos" on their own escutcheons, right? If Ivanhoe could do it, then why can't Charles? And "Finally, at long last" isn't all that different from "Disinherited", really, in fact it's kind of more upbeat and hopeful, right? The Monarch already has a motto handed down which is, 'mon dieu et mon droit' basically a nod to the divine right of the sovereign to reign over us. Swedish, Baltic German and Finnish nobility don't/didn't have mottos for their coats of arms AFAIAA.
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18th April 2023, 12:36 PM	#275
Vixen Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 33,526	Originally Posted by zooterkin Not to mention that pig fat is ruled out for Jews and Muslims; so much for his 'defender of all the faiths' idea. Surely, just the Defender of THE Faith (aka: 'keep out the Catholics')? ETA: Ah, you think he is trying to be inclusive?
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