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12th August 2013, 06:00 PM | #1 |
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Bigfoot - has anybody seen one? Part II.
Was there a question in there somewhere I missed? Did you want me to respond to this part?: "This is because you have no background in, or understanding of, primate physiology."
I read thru your post of course. If you would like to talk more about the Cross River Gorillas, I'm fine with that but you'll probably need to start a new thread. Forgive me if I'm wrong but I thought your post was meant to be educational aside from a little snarky remark in the beginning. |
12th August 2013, 06:32 PM | #2 |
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12th August 2013, 06:39 PM | #3 |
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That kind of detail on camera would blow away the PGF
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12th August 2013, 07:22 PM | #5 |
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I find it hard to believe that you, nor any of your team, could manage a better photo, despite having several encounters.
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12th August 2013, 07:27 PM | #6 |
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One problem with the Cross River gorilla photo from 1906? It's an adult male chimpanzee, not a young male gorilla.
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12th August 2013, 07:50 PM | #7 |
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And yet(i), there is no such detail on camera even after all these years. One guy (who just happened to be making a Big Foot movie at the time) supposedly caught one on film, but none of the great white hunters has managed anything close to that since. It's almost as if the dang things don't exist.
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12th August 2013, 07:53 PM | #8 |
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The hilarity is you thinking you're trying to convince us of something. You're just trying to convince yourself. Why else come to this vast wasteland of Buzz Killington skeptics, known to have zero respect for your Bigfoot idol Bill Munns? And then make over 100 posts in less than a week's time defending him and Bigfoot? FTR I post less in an entire year. It's as if Bigfoot's cosmic license to exist depends solely on the amount of BIF™ (Bigfoot Intestinal Fortitude™) you can sustain in a hostile environment. That is, if you can endure the JREF hell and come out the other end perhaps scathed but still bleevin, then Bigfoot LIVES!
"If we can just get enough of us to say it, it's gotta be true." Earlier you offered "...If you live nearby and wish to go out trekking let's go. I'm not for hire and I don't make deliveries. If you wanna solve the bigfoot mystery for yourself you'll need to put in the time and mileage trekking to do so. I have a great area available and you are welcome. Or you can sit by your computer and continue thinking someone should solve the mystery for you. I won't. But if you agree to put in say 18 months or so of effort there's a very good chance you'll solve it for yourself..." Seriously? Are you just practicing your Amway pitch to a new audience? Apparently I'm unworthy of knowing the Bigfoot Truth™ unless I prove it by going through 18 months (not 6 or 12? Days?) of Bigfoot Monk rituals like driving in circles late at night yelling Bigfoot's "The Letter D for $1,000 Alex." Then you wrote, "...The easy way is to just deny everything and never make the effort to solve the mystery. If that's for you that's great. I'm of a different opinion." Yes of course, how could I be so obtuse, it's me who's in denial. So I'll ask again, do you have any ******* clue (or a regular clue too) how to genuinely shut us all up? That doesn't actually involve any of us and creepy late night Bigfoot Round-ups in rural Kentucky? |
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12th August 2013, 08:25 PM | #10 |
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You want me to bring you a Bigfoot to your front door? LOL Even if I could why would I do that? What's my motivation? To better serve you?
As I already said, I don't deliver. You want answers to the mystery? Go get 'em is my advice. If not, the only person you have to blame is yourself. |
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Good catch, Shrike. I should have looked closer. I was looking more at the stomach than the face.
Now going back to what Chris was saying... Again I would like to ask, if I look at a photo of a dead chimp, gorilla, orangutan, or any known extant animal, and I have no problem as accepting it as such, but I look at an alleged photo of a dead Bigfoot and my first thought is to think photoshop hoax or something along that line, what is unfair about that and what is not right about those differing standards? |
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Until better evidence is provided, the best solution to the PGF is that it is a man in a suit. -Astrophotographer. 2 prints, 1 trackway, same 'dermals'? 'Unfortunately no' says Meldrum. I want to see bigfoot throw a pig... Is that wrong? -LTC8K6 |
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Until better evidence is provided, the best solution to the PGF is that it is a man in a suit. -Astrophotographer. 2 prints, 1 trackway, same 'dermals'? 'Unfortunately no' says Meldrum. I want to see bigfoot throw a pig... Is that wrong? -LTC8K6 |
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Until better evidence is provided, the best solution to the PGF is that it is a man in a suit. -Astrophotographer. 2 prints, 1 trackway, same 'dermals'? 'Unfortunately no' says Meldrum. I want to see bigfoot throw a pig... Is that wrong? -LTC8K6 |
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12th August 2013, 09:17 PM | #15 |
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13th August 2013, 04:59 AM | #17 |
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What a kop-out, Chris. You know fully well if Foot was real, & you could catch one, then you would. For the recognition and $$$
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13th August 2013, 05:02 AM | #18 |
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It's hard to believe that any serious investigator would tell someone to "solve the mystery" for themselves. What nonsense...
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13th August 2013, 06:00 AM | #19 |
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It's very hard to believe a person can see a slitted nose and other details, but can't get those details into a modern camera so that others can see them.
How can you be close enough to see details with your eyes, but too far away for a half decent camera to back up your observations? |
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I'd always wondered what the 'KY,' in KY Jelly, stood for...
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14th August 2013, 02:48 PM | #22 |
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I live in north Ga. I've spent a good portion of my life in this area on and off. I've been to the locations where they filmed some of those scenes. (the chattooga river, and tallulah gorge) as well as I've hiked and mtn biked all over Cohutta wilderness area. Plenty of wild hogs, deer, black bear, coyotes and other assorted fauna in the area. There are no bigfoots in Georgia. If you think there is an area with bigfoots, I'll be happy to find out what you're really experiencing there (just give me the location) If it's on private land, you may be getting hoaxed or just imagining things. (or just plain telling stories) A blob in the bush does not equate a bigfoot. If you've spent any amount of time in the woods you would become familiar with what is there and the sounds/sign made by their activities. What evidence do you have of any bigfoots being present in the state? Have you contacted any wildlife officials about it? |
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Why is Chris pretending he knew the Wikipedia Cross River gorilla page mistakenly showed a chimp?
Discussing the gorillas Chris says he thinks they haven't been filmed before 2009... Night Walker links the photo that Vort already mentioned for Chris... Chris responds to the linked photo to clarify he meant moving images as in video, no mentions of hey, that's a chimp... Vort specifically asks Chris if he's seen the photo... Chris acknowledges the post, no it's a chimp gotcha moment, and suggests simply moving Cross River gorilla discussion to a new thread... And only after Shrike points it out, jumps up to pretend he knew all along... This is the same person who in the presence of skeptics says his Bigfoot photos are not even evidence... Yet on his own website for believers... I can affirm that this individual in the pic and the rest of the group are some sort of unknown North American Primates that exactly match descriptions of the creatures known as Bigfoot/Sasquatch. Most Researchers are very afraid when presenting any evidence to the public, they will NOT say "IT'S BIGFOOT" for fear of being wrong or for fear of an honest misidentification. This is not the case with myself. I know what I have seen and captured on film and video and I know what I continue to observe in the KY backwoods, I have collected pictures and video of these creatures, behavior notes as well as what they're eating. - ChrisBFRPKY http://www.bfrpky.com/PICS.html |
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14th August 2013, 03:54 PM | #24 |
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15th August 2013, 01:03 AM | #25 |
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Sorry Kit, you'll have to try another angle. It's not my fault only 1 here took the hint. I don't consider "gotcha moments" as productive. You already know this about me from the BFF.
You also know I am soft spoken and a man of few words and I don't like engaging in conversation with those that are less than civil. As far as my website. I'm not sure what my site has to do with the PGF? I have some pics and video there that I collected of what I saw on a few occaisions here in KY. None are defining proof of existence for Bigfoot for science. They're failed attempts to clearly capture what I saw on those occaisions. But I try. I think the video of the family group was a good effort considering the equipment I was working with, but still not scientific proof of existence of Bigfoot. The complete description from that pic: This pic is a crop from a larger pic below that I made about 30 minutes after the track pic at the bottom of the page. This crop is a much lower resolution than the 8.1 MP full pic below. The subject is exactly 120 feet from the camera. You'll notice the Sun is shining directly on the subject. For anyone that tries to say it's a trick of shadows and light, sorry, the Sun is shining directly on the creature so there's no possibility of shadows in direct Sun light.......It's the first week of March so leaf growth has not happened yet. The trees are mostly bare with the exception of a few pine trees, they have a few green needles of course. More details of the creature are visible in the high resolution full pic below. Pic was made 03-06-2010 by me. Undisclosed location. Measurements made on the tree the next day confirmed a height of over 9 feet of this "subject". This pic is being listed here as part of a release of information and is being made available to allow study of these creature's differing types of physical build. I can affirm that this individual in the pic and the rest of the group are some sort of unknown North American Primates that exactly match descriptions of the creatures known as Bigfoot/Sasquatch. Most Researchers are very afraid when presenting any evidence to the public, they will NOT say "IT'S BIGFOOT" for fear of being wrong or for fear of an honest misidentification. This is not the case with myself. I know what I have seen and captured on film and video and I know what I continue to observe in the KY backwoods, I have collected pictures and video of these creatures, behavior notes as well as what they're eating. For any reporters reading this, NO INTERVIEWS period. I don't do interviews, especially with closed minded reporters shirking grins or winking at the camera as they ask comical questions, I don't have time for nonsence. For all others, enjoy the pics being released. Best, Chris Bennett Research/Observation Bigfoot Research Project of Kentucky. Do I affirm what I have seen is Bigfoot? Absolutely. But that's not evidence. A body is evidence. Do I admit this description is from a blobby pic? I have many times. |
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Chris how do you explain the existence of Bigfoot in modern Kentucky? Why do you think that is plausible? That picture of the "9 foot" "subject" .. there is nothing there. The problem isn't "the equipment" , the problem is that Bigfoot is not there..
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15th August 2013, 03:39 AM | #27 |
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Exactly. You've got photos on your website that you claim to be bigfoots but you won't repeat those claims in the company of people who will question them. That's not cool. If you want to have a website on which you write stories about seeing bigfoots, go for it. But passing off photos of branches and shadows as photos of those bigfoots puts you in another category.
As for historical chimpanzee photos, I guess you are claiming that you had set a trap for us weak-minded meanie-heads at the JREF, but I don't think you had any idea that was a chimp until I pointed it out. Color me skeptical that you've come here with a mind open to the slightest possibility that you could be wrong about Bigfoot. |
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I guess Chris is saying that if we can't tell a chimp from a gorilla then we are also not qualified to tell a blob from a squatch in his scenery pics.
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Why is an elusive creature, an expert at stealth, just standing in direct sunlight in the woods?
Why can't we get a good picture of a giant biped standing in direct sunlight 40 meters away? |
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This is to dispel the rumor that natives didn't hunt gorillas.
http://vimeo.com/64039673 Highly recommend. |
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If Chris was sending hints they were way too subtle for me. His statements show that he was trying to steer the conversation away from Cross River Gorillas. I just clicked on the link because I wanted to see the old photo. When I did, it was obvious to me that it was a chimp in the photo, despite the annotation on the photo.
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Chris, like myself, had no idea it was a Chimp, but I'm okay with not being a primate expert. Chris is as honest as his trade.
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I'm sorry, but when were you at Alamogordo? I ask because your bio page at http://www.bfrpky.com/Chris.html makes absolutely no mention of you working at any primate research facility.
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Catching Chris in another lie is nothing to be sorry about!
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Chris and Northern Lights, I'm sensing a theme here. NL's excuse for contradicting himself is long overdue.
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I found a dead wolverine not far from Mineral, WA, I think two years ago. I didn't realize at the time how rare they are supposed to be in this state until I looked them up days later. As far as I could tell, they weren't even supposed to be in that area at all. This article http://seattletimes.com/html/localne...returnxml.html suggests a count of only 25 animals in this state, yet I found a dead one. Amazing as that is, as unlikely as that is, it happens. A wolverine is not a big animal, certainly not one of the largest land animals in the country, and absolutely rare by any count.
So I see no way that there could be a viable breeding population of bigfoots anywhere in this country, that could have avoided detection all these centuries. If a person can find a dead animal not much bigger than a house cat or pet dog, that is supposed to number around 25 in the entire state, how come giant hairy beasts can never, ever, EVER be found and "sampled"? |
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