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6th September 2013, 10:42 AM | #321 |
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I would assume that most sightings do get reported in one fashion or another, however it's a claim that you can see Bigfoot believers make on a fairly regular basis that most do not get reported.
That's understandable. Do you share that information with groups that do have regular access to such areas? |
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6th September 2013, 10:43 AM | #322 |
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From this website in Kentucky. Not yours.
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6th September 2013, 12:23 PM | #323 |
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6th September 2013, 02:53 PM | #324 |
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6th September 2013, 07:17 PM | #325 |
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I'm with you 100% here. My years in the bush were spent around Great Slave Lake, east of where you are, but wild enough.
Exactly right. I live in Ontario now, but the notion that there's wild, undiscovered animals like bigfoot in the American suburbs makes me laugh. I think that the wildest thing around KY are good old boys on a Saturday night. |
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7th September 2013, 03:48 AM | #326 |
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I'm sure you live in a great place. I love Alaska too. Without rolling off a list of places I can say I am a World traveler as well.
I happen to live in KY. That's where I hang my hat. We have a population of Bigfoot creatures here. I've seen them. I have no idea where to look for one in Alaska, I'd have to do the research. I have no idea why you haven't stumbled across one in your wilderness adventures? I only know that I have here. Your argument seems to be that since Alaska is more remote, you should have found one by now? I really don't know. Where you are verses where I am really has nothing to do with the price of tea in China though does it? Are they more likely to live in Alaska? I don't know. |
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You might as tell us that you have leprechauns in your dishwater. How long will it take for you to realize that we simply don't believe you?
It's not bias on our part. We just want what you don't have and what you have already stated you have no interest in providing: unambiguous evidence. Words will not suffice. The argument is that remote areas such as those that bears love are the perfect habitat for bigfoot. Not suburban KY. Of course we don't know anything about bigfoot... because they don't exist. But rationally, if they were so intelligent and wanted to escape detection, they would go north, not skulk around back yards like bears at a dump. Bigfoot are so smart and undetectable, and yet they are everywhere... but they are also nowhere. Everyone sees them and yet no one can find them. This doesn't sound like a fable to you? Bigfoot "exist" anywhere there's a mind willing to consciously or unconsciously make them up. That's why we get sightings in suburban America. It's just a matter of time before they're spotted in Times Square. |
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7th September 2013, 11:12 PM | #328 |
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That's not his argument at all. What he is saying is that woodland creatures leave very definite traces (like their dead bodies) where ever they hang out. With BF, all we have are tall tales, fake foot prints, and photos of dark splotches in the woods. Yes there is reason to be skeptical.
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9th September 2013, 06:03 AM | #329 |
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I would venture that it probably wouldn't matter where you go. If it be the suburbs of Lousiville, the deepest valley in the Brooks Range of Alaska, the Eastern Edge of the Cascades, the once-decimated forests of Michigan, Pennsylvania, Ohio, or New York, or the western edge of Oklahoma, I would venture that YOU would think you saw a Bigfoot. Once you realize that the Bigfoot sighting is dependent upon the person seeing it, and NOT upon the remoteness of the land, or the darkness of the forest, I think you will realize that Bigfoot is not real. It is a real thing in your head, and in the heads of good storytellers, and narcoleptics the world-over, but not walking around in the margins of Farm fields in Kentucky. It ain't there. Despite your over-compensating for the remoteness of the wilderness there, the areas you are describing are little more than crossing points for white-tailed deer. Here is the county that the 'one wolf' was shot in. Does it look like a place where wolves live and breed? <iframe width="425" height="350" frameborder="0" scrolling="no" marginheight="0" marginwidth="0" src="https://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=& ;q=hart+county+ky&aq=&sll=37.72728,-85.814209&sspn=2.932472,5.817261&t=h&i e=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Hart,+Kentucky&ll=37. 31013,-85.848624&spn=0.368653,0.727158&z=11&o utput=embed"></iframe><br /><small><a href="https://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=embed&hl=en&geocode=&a mp;q=hart+county+ky&aq=&sll=37.72728,-85.814209&sspn=2.932472,5.817261&t=h&i e=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Hart,+Kentucky&ll=37. 31013,-85.848624&spn=0.368653,0.727158&z=11" style="color:#0000FF;text-align:left">View Larger Map</a></small> A wolf pack's minimum range is approx. 10-15 square miles. Is there one area in this county of Kentucky, that a range of approx. 3.5 miles x 3.5 miles is not intersected by a State or County Highway, or Interstate? |
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12th September 2013, 02:23 AM | #330 |
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Remoteness from the human population wouldn't insulate all Bigfeet from all epidemics at all times. For instance, during the period of roughly 1845 through 1864 in the United States, Bigfoot wouldn't be able to predict where humankind was going to be at all. There was a great migration, a great deal of unrest, and a purposeful infiltration of areas where people generally didn't go during this timeframe. There was Manifest Destiny, a Gold Rush, and a couple of small foreign wars as well as one great big Civil one. There were people exploring and/or fleeing all over the place. Bigfoot would be hard pressed to know where to hide in order to avoid the general chaos and near-random movement of this time period.
In addition, there were a number of different epidemics, some of which crossed over species barriers, such as dysentery, which infects the water and kills across species barriers. If it drinks water and has intestines, dysentery can kill it. There are a lot of diseases and illnesses that can cross species barriers like this, so having differences in the immune system isn't enough to protect Bigfoot from all of these different diseases. Animals have their own epidemics, such as anthrax (which coincidentally also kills humans), so avoiding humans isn't enough to protect Bigfoot from disease and sudden death. Influenza type A is another disease that crosses species barriers, killing a variety of different types of animals as well as humans. To sum it up, attributing a superior immune system to Bigfoot that surpasses that not only of man, but also all other animals and living creatures, making Bigfoot (and only Bigfoot) immune to epidemics, is to attribute magical qualities to Bigfoot. |
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There's nothing magical about a creature that doesn't have the same immune system as we do. If you inject yourself with HIV virus, sooner or later you will develop AIDS. If you likewise inject a Chimpanzee with HIV guess what, the chimp will never develop AIDS. Although it is still being argued, the Chimpanzee seems to be the closest living relative of man.
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17th September 2013, 11:21 AM | #333 |
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You seem to have missed this sentence in the paragraphs you quoted:
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17th September 2013, 03:04 PM | #334 |
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Everything is magical about a mythical creature who is claimed to have skulked around humans for so long without ever having been verified to exist. You can imagine and speculate all you like, but there's no bigfoot at hand to test any of your guesses on, and the smart money is on the conclusion that there never will be.
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17th September 2013, 04:33 PM | #335 |
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This is incorrect. It is not illogical that a chimpanzee can develop AIDS from HIV, since the origin of HIV was most likely SIV (Simian Immunodeficiency Virus).
Infected With Human Virus, A Chimpanzee Develops AIDSYour assertion that bigfoot is unlikely to have been affected by viral epidemics that wiped out human populations is not supported by the incorrect assertion that primates with similar immune systems (e.g., chimpanzees) are not affected by human viruses. Indeed Baboons can be infected with HIV and they are even further away from humans in the primate tree. |
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17th September 2013, 06:02 PM | #336 |
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Not to digress or anything but chimps do develop AIDS.
http://www.nature.com/news/2009/0907....2009.711.html |
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17th September 2013, 07:31 PM | #337 |
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As I said in the other thread, you have to wonder about an outdoorsman who can clearly see and identify a creature in the woods, but can't get a decent picture of what he can clearly see.
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17th September 2013, 09:02 PM | #338 |
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If bigfoots were able to mate with humans they were certainly able to catch the same diseases.
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18th September 2013, 05:48 PM | #339 |
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Hey, just 'cause they can mate with us, don't mean they gonna cause young'uns to come into existence.
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18th September 2013, 08:06 PM | #340 |
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It depends, it might not express exactly the same way in non human primates versus humans.
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19th September 2013, 03:51 PM | #341 |
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Whether it does or not is really no longer important.
It has been pretty clearly demonstrated that this argument against a human viral epidemic being a threat to another primate. ... is weak or nonexistent. Futher, the current DNA claims seem to be that bf are partly human |
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Apparently you haven't heard of Patrick.
http://www.examiner.com/article/rhet...bigfoot-hybrid |
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20th September 2013, 08:36 AM | #343 |
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Hello, Rhettman.
Just another attention-seeking goofball feeding off the Bigfoot gravy train. Is that too harsh? |
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There's so much good stuff here. I need to stop hanging out other places.
I was doing a webbernet search trying to find descriptions of the NAWAC wood chimps because the NAWAC spokespersons have presumably been told not to speak fast and loose in public anymore because they got in a lot of hot water with the bosses last time they did, and instead of finding their descriptions of 8 foot tall American chimps, I found this nugget of wisdom. Reading it, my tension melted away. Thank you for reality!!! |
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Harry has delivered some epic rants through the years, and that's a great one.
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29th May 2016, 05:24 PM | #348 |
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Anybody seen one?
Was he snoopin' around? |
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30th May 2016, 04:17 AM | #350 |
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Maybe some new Memorial Day footage will be captured today. It's starting to look like there might not actually such a thing as bigfootses.
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30th May 2016, 07:01 AM | #351 |
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Have the footers slowed down on their "researchin"?
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2nd June 2016, 01:23 AM | #352 |
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Anyone in the UK seen this yet? http://www.channel4.com/programmes/y...mo=coming_soon
Yeti: Myth, Man or Beast? It was screened on Sunday, I think, but I watched it on Four-Seven last night. I quite enjoyed it. It seemed to pick up from the last Mark Evans-presented show, also from Channel 4, in which Prof. Sykes did his controversial testing. |
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5th June 2016, 10:58 PM | #353 |
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An admirably skeptical podcast segment on Bigfoot from Joe Rogan:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3LUiucjgik |
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"I dont call that evolution, I call that the survival of the fittest." - Bulletmaker "I thought skeptics would usually point towards a hoax rather than a group being duped." - makaya325 Kit is not a skeptic. He is a former Bigfoot believer that changed his position to that of non believer.- Crowlogic |
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Weren't people saying that this was supposed to rival the PGF? Just goes to show how much imagination is involved when it comes to Bigfoot footage, hence why nobody "studying" the PGF and coming to an "it's real" conclusion can ever be trusted or given any credence whatsoever.
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The thing that set this video apart from all the others was how they filmed bigfoot from the "sweet spot" - It has to be filmed far enough to obscure that it is a suit but close enough to appear hominid.
It gains credibility compared to all those close-up high definition videos of bigfoot. |
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