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Old 8th February 2020, 08:55 PM   #41
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Originally Posted by a_unique_person View Post
It's an interview about her. People can get bored answering the same basic questions over and over, especially if you are as intelligent as she claims to be and autistic.
Probably the most valid post on this thread.

Fair point. Still a weird thing to do by her but fair point
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Old 8th February 2020, 08:58 PM   #42
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Originally Posted by Sideroxylon View Post
“Normal” = White, hetero, male fearful in a a declining hegemony. Oh for the good old days when weirdos like this were the butt of jokes and everyone used to laugh.
I am not fearful of anyone, wish for the good old days, or think this person should be personally offended for giggles.

I just think handing out a personalised guide on how people should talk to me is weird.
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Old 8th February 2020, 09:32 PM   #43
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Originally Posted by cullennz View Post
I am not fearful of anyone, wish for the good old days, or think this person should be personally offended for giggles.

I just think handing out a personalised guide on how people should talk to me is weird.
If we all did that then everyone would spend all their time reading and conversation would become extinct.


Just like forums, Twitter, email etc.
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Old 9th February 2020, 12:46 AM   #44
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Originally Posted by cullennz View Post
They might be referring to teetotal, chocolate loving, vegetarian, yogi feminist.

Which I think you will fin, while utterly "who cares".

Are choices
No they are not.
They are preferences. Preferences based on your personality.
Could you make the choice to become a teetotal, chocolate loving, vegetarian, yogi feminist?
And I don't mean acting like one but wanting to act like one.
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Originally Posted by Sideroxylon View Post
Oh for the good old days when weirdos like this were the butt of jokes and everyone used to laugh.
I'm all for this.... to an extent. The days when we could prick the balloon of pomposity that surrounds this individual and her ilk are long lamented by me. She is a passive-aggressive, self important jerk and should be instructed to shove her list of demands right up her arse.
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Old 9th February 2020, 01:16 AM   #46
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Originally Posted by Cheetah View Post
No they are not.
They are preferences. Preferences based on your personality.
Could you make the choice to become a teetotal, chocolate loving, vegetarian, yogi feminist?
And I don't mean acting like one but wanting to act like one.
Yes I could because they are all choices. Whether you chose to think they are or not.

Same as transitioning and writing up a how to talk to me guide
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Originally Posted by cullennz View Post
Yes I could because they are all choices. Whether you chose to think they are or not.

Same as transitioning and writing up a how to talk to me guide
A guide to bigots is not such a bad thing.
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Old 9th February 2020, 01:23 AM   #48
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Let's put it this way

My sister is a veggie.

When we were growing up she wasn't as she didn't have any idea what a veggie was.

Got older now doesn't eat meat. Cooks meat sometimes for her kids as not dumb. And will let them decide if they chose to be veggie.

All choice
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Old 9th February 2020, 01:24 AM   #49
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Originally Posted by lionking View Post
A guide to bigots is not such a bad thing.
So you assume everyone is a bigot without a personal guide.
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I think the word "choice" is seriously misapplied here. Of course in the dark days we wish were well behind us a person could choose to live in quiet denial, fear and loneliness so as to avoid derision, disenfranchisement and death. You can call it a choice, but the choice is what you do, not what you are. And that is true even if what you are is judged by many to be wrong, preposterous or crazy, and even if the reason for denial is a good one.
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Old 9th February 2020, 10:59 AM   #51
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I'm all for this.... to an extent. The days when we could prick the balloon of pomposity that surrounds this individual and her ilk are long lamented by me. She is a passive-aggressive, self important jerk and should be instructed to shove her list of demands right up her arse.
The autistic? Presuming this isn't some poorly worded Poe, you should take a good LONG look in a mirror, kid.
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Old 9th February 2020, 11:04 AM   #52
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It's an interview about her. People can get bored answering the same basic questions over and over, especially if you are as intelligent as she claims to be and autistic.
"I get asked the same questions a lot. Here's a crib sheet with the answers, so that we don't have to waste time on them during the interview."

"Actually, let me just write an article about the crib sheet!"
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Old 9th February 2020, 12:21 PM   #53
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The autistic? Presuming this isn't some poorly worded Poe, you should take a good LONG look in a mirror, kid.
I didn't single out autistic as being the issue here, why do you? What is it you hate about autistic people?
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I didn't single out autistic as being the issue here, why do you? What is it you hate about autistic people?
Try looking up what autism is. Ideally before making yourself look any more droolingly stupid.
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Originally Posted by bluesjnr View Post
I'm all for this.... to an extent. The days when we could prick the balloon of pomposity that surrounds this individual and her ilk are long lamented by me. She is a passive-aggressive, self important jerk and should be instructed to shove her list of demands right up her arse.
Salty. Maybe she should include a preamble with trigger warning.
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She has a right to demand anything that she wants, within some limits. Everyone else has a right to react as they see fit, within some limits.

She wouldn't be happy with me refusing to read her " rules of interchange " and deciding how to go after that.

But I wouldn't risk any ' hate crimes ' for her and her weirdness.
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It's an interview about her. People can get bored answering the same basic questions over and over, especially if you are as intelligent as she claims to be and autistic.
There seems to be an extremely high rate of transgenderism among autistic people. It seems that gender transition is seen as a solution to problems that actually originate with autism rather than with gender itself. For example, autistic buys aren't as aggressive as other boys, and may shy away from physical competition. Autistic girls, on the other hand, may find the intense focus that other girls put on relationships to be overwhelming. So autistic boys and girls can end up with a profound sense of not belonging with other children of the same sex, and may find it easier to hang out with the opposite sex. Gender transition can look like a solution to this problem. But it isn't really.
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Originally Posted by Shadowdweller View Post
Try looking up what autism is. Ideally before making yourself look any more droolingly stupid.
Why are you obsessed with autism?

Would you try and explain your ire rather than take pot shots at me. I get it that your all "grr" and "why you..., I oughtta!" but you're the one making no sense?

What is your contention here?

My issue is that people who produce flyers instructing others how to behave, address and give advance warnings in writing about what to expect when one meets them need to have said flyer (metaphorically) shoved up their arse. It might let some wind out their sails.

Your argument seems to be "AUTISM!".

I don't think you're advancing your point.
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Salty. Maybe she should include a preamble with trigger warning.
If she isn't triggering me today it'll be you tomorrow.
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Why are you obsessed with autism?

Would you try and explain your ire rather than take pot shots at me. I get it that your all "grr" and "why you..., I oughtta!" but you're the one making no sense?

What is your contention here?

My issue is that people who produce flyers instructing others how to behave, address and give advance warnings in writing about what to expect when one meets them need to have said flyer (metaphorically) shoved up their arse. It might let some wind out their sails.

Your argument seems to be "AUTISM!".

I don't think you're advancing your point.
Seriously, go spend a couple minutes looking up Autism. Since you clearly don't understand what it is; and the incidence of those on the spectrum is such that you will almost inevitably be forced to interact with one in the future, provided you don't live in a desert.

Your statement:
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The days when we could prick the balloon of pomposity that surrounds this individual and her ilk are long lamented by me. She is a passive-aggressive, self important jerk and should be instructed to shove her list of demands right up her arse.
Compare / Contrast:

* Screaming at a blind man who blunders into a women's restroom to "read the ******* sign".

* Directing a paraplegic in a wheel chair to "head down the front stairs".

* Verbally demanding that a deaf woman "listen to what you're saying."

* Handing a big, heavy package to a person on crutches or using a walker.

Clearly the only POSSIBLE reason why an individual might have a brochure about how to deal with them is arrogance, passive-aggression, or pomposity

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Seriously, go spend a couple minutes looking up Autism. Since you clearly don't understand what it is; and the incidence of those on the spectrum is such that you will almost inevitably be forced to interact with one in the future, provided you don't live in a desert.

Your statement: Compare / Contrast:

* Screaming at a blind man who blunders into a women's restroom to "read the ******* sign".

* Directing a paraplegic in a wheel chair to "head down the front stairs".

* Verbally demanding that a deaf woman "listen to what you're saying."

* Handing a big, heavy package to a person on crutches or using a walker.

Clearly the only POSSIBLE reason why an individual might have a brochure about how to deal with them is arrogance, passive-aggression, or pomposity
You're on quite the crusade! What is the relevance of your compare/contrast list and how does it relate to my post or me?

Can you point out where I said that "clearly the only possible reason why an individual etc etc".

I'm finding your continued charade of attributing an agenda to me tiresome. You are allowed to disagree with me, of course, but it's really poor form to make stuff up then ramp yourself into such a tizzy.
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I suspect the point of the list is even mostly functional autistic people have bad episodes.

Two breakrooms at work, one non smoking and the other for smokers.

The strange girl sat there and lectured us about rules against smoking until she was reminded of exactly which room she was in.

A lot of us would avoid contact with her after that. Then she talked about her social worker resolving her problems, not realizing she was one of the few there with an assigned social worker.

Her normal was not what most of us knew.
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I suspect the point of the list is even mostly functional autistic people have bad episodes.

Two breakrooms at work, one non smoking and the other for smokers.

The strange girl sat there and lectured us about rules against smoking until she was reminded of exactly which room she was in.

A lot of us would avoid contact with her after that. Then she talked about her social worker resolving her problems, not realizing she was one of the few there with an assigned social worker.

Her normal was not what most of us knew.
I think the point of the list was a tad more nefarious with regard to asking me to compare/contrast.
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The place where they ate seems to have a snobby italian menu random word generator device. Onion confit dressing? Burrata stracciatela?
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The place where they ate seems to have a snobby italian menu random word generator device. Onion confit dressing? Burrata stracciatela?
AUTISM!
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Lifestyle porn.
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Lifestyle porn.
I thought that was where they rent a fancy condo for the video shoot, then the owners find out and threaten to sue.
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I thought that was where they rent a fancy condo for the video shoot, then the owners find out and threaten to sue.
Other way around: It's when you bring the porno crew in for a shoot, and it's just instagram posing with the bed and the perfectly-plated food, and the jizz mopper wants to know if he's still going get paid.
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Here's the problem.

Nobody understands anymore that there are two social standards.

1. I will not harm, harass, discriminate, hate, attack, etc you for reason X.
2. I will go out of my way to voluntarily openly engage with you, spend time with you, and interact with you.

1 and 2 are not the same sentence.
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Originally Posted by JoeMorgue View Post
Here's the problem.

Nobody understands anymore that there are two social standards.

1. I will not harm, harass, discriminate, hate, attack, etc you for reason X.
2. I will go out of my way to voluntarily openly engage with you, spend time with you, and interact with you.

1 and 2 are not the same sentence.
I subscribe to
3. I will completely ignore you unless I see a valid reason not to.
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"I get asked the same questions a lot. Here's a crib sheet with the answers, so that we don't have to waste time on them during the interview."



"Actually, let me just write an article about the crib sheet!"
They did the interview as well.
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Originally Posted by JoeMorgue View Post
Here's the problem.

Nobody understands anymore that there are two social standards.

1. I will not harm, harass, discriminate, hate, attack, etc you for reason X.
2. I will go out of my way to voluntarily openly engage with you, spend time with you, and interact with you.

1 and 2 are not the same sentence.
The first could be used by avoidance or extrovert type people. It also doesn't state if reason Y or Z could be reason to discriminate. The second could be the extroverted individual being a saint to an utter bigot.

Very correct that those are qiite different.

I prefer a neutral approach to most folks, cordial but never giving away personal information not easily seen. Never seeking thier personal data.
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https://www.smh.com.au/national/lunc...29-p53vq6.html

I'm all for individuality and that but get a grip
I kept reading through the story waiting for some point to the OP, but didn't find anything.

Seems like a great person who has done a lot of good and been very successful in her life. A great poster child for a capitalism success story, and a success of a relatively free Western Society (compared to Saudi Arabia, Russia, North Korea, UAE, Iran or other similar oppressive/regressive societies).
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It's not the world that's got a bit weird, it's that some of us have got a bit old.
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Seriously

What sort of **** hole hands out a word document on how to deal with them?
Ummmm...tons of people. Hell, I do it.


I do a fair bit of public speaking. I am sometimes interviewed. There are a variety of questions and issues that will fairly predictably arise, so I prepare a document that covers that information in advance of meeting. It not only saves tons of time, but is considered quite professional.


Most other people in similar situations will do much the same thing.


The fact that you are apparently ignorant of this practice, and actually feel the need to criticize it, speaks much more to your character than anyone else.

After all...to edit your question above...



...What sort of **** hole bothers to link to a post and comment on it critically, when they obviously don't even understand what's happening?
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Old 12th February 2020, 05:26 PM   #76
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Ummmm...tons of people. Hell, I do it.


I do a fair bit of public speaking. I am sometimes interviewed. There are a variety of questions and issues that will fairly predictably arise, so I prepare a document that covers that information in advance of meeting. It not only saves tons of time, but is considered quite professional.


Most other people in similar situations will do much the same thing.


The fact that you are apparently ignorant of this practice, and actually feel the need to criticize it, speaks much more to your character than anyone else.

After all...to edit your question above...



...What sort of **** hole bothers to link to a post and comment on it critically, when they obviously don't even understand what's happening?
Do your documents instruct people on how to talk to you?
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Probably the most valid post on this thread.

Fair point. Still a weird thing to do by her but fair point
Usually it would be an assistant making a last-second call with all kinds of hurried instructions.
Tea’s way seems a lot better for all parties
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I just don't know what to think anymore. When I made appointments in the past (10 years or so) the onus was on me to find out about my host before I attended. To have some sort of crib sheet handed to me would have me on the back-foot.
At first sight it smacks of pomposity and self indulgence. When looked at more closely it appears to be pomposity and self indulgence on an immense scale. To be fair, I'd have walked out. Too busy to dance to silly tunes and pander to overblown egos.
Did she hand out these sheets when she was an intern or did she start when she reached the top of the bean bag infested looney tree that is Google?
I've met loads like her over the years, egocentrics - every last one of them, hers is just a variation on the old 'pissing up the wall' game.
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Do your documents instruct people on how to talk to you?
Mine don't, because I don't belong to a particular group or minority where there are issues in how I'm addressed. I'm a heterosexual white male. There is pretty much zero confusion about how I should be addressed or treated.


However, I know of quite a few people from various ethnic minorities and LGBTQ who will do so. For example, "My preferred pronouns are they/their" or "My preferred pronouns are ze/zir". If they have changed their name (for personal reasons, or because of a gender transition), they may also specify what name should be used to refer to them. And if their name may be difficult to pronounce, they may also specify the proper pronunciation.


And that's just for regular, normal folks like me.


For people who are more famous or higher status, they may have all sorts of additional requirements...what types of food to provide, what topics can or cannot be discussed, and all sorts of other stuff all the way to specifying that they need a bowl of M&Ms, with all the red ones removed.

Some of these requirements may seem silly or pointless...

...but again, it is hardly uncommon.
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I just don't know what to think anymore. When I made appointments in the past (10 years or so) the onus was on me to find out about my host before I attended. To have some sort of crib sheet handed to me would have me on the back-foot.
At first sight it smacks of pomposity and self indulgence. When looked at more closely it appears to be pomposity and self indulgence on an immense scale. To be fair, I'd have walked out. Too busy to dance to silly tunes and pander to overblown egos.
Did she hand out these sheets when she was an intern or did she start when she reached the top of the bean bag infested looney tree that is Google?
I've met loads like her over the years, egocentrics - every last one of them, hers is just a variation on the old 'pissing up the wall' game.
I do not understand at all why you'd see this as indicating "pomposity and self-indulgence on an immense scale"?

I've been approached as a speaker for conferences, I've been approached to be interviewed by various media. Yes, they usually do make an effort to ask me questions and find out info about me...but if I'm able to anticipate the most common questions, and send them that info in advance, it saves both sides a lot of time, and in my experience is considered quite professional.

It seems rather weird to me that you'd consider someone putting together a document which saves time on introductory questions and background, and proceed more directly to more specific/targeted questions...to consider this to somehow be weird, or arrogant, or self-indulgent?

Most professionals that I know who are regularly interviewed, or invited to speak at conferences, will have some sort of background sheet that is routinely given to everyone. The specific info may vary...but it's very much a standard practice, and one that's considered professional, not "self-indulgence on an immense scale."
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