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Old 12th February 2019, 02:39 PM   #721
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Originally Posted by rjh01 View Post
That should be done next week. That bill was a trial run.

It seems the cross benchers are no so keen for an early election. Perhaps some are not so sure of re-election, and want to stretch out their employment as long as possible.
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Old 12th February 2019, 04:08 PM   #722
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It seems the cross benchers are no so keen for an early election. Perhaps some are not so sure of re-election, and want to stretch out their employment as long as possible.
Some of them have only just got in there!
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Old 12th February 2019, 04:13 PM   #723
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Originally Posted by lionking View Post
I agree with you, apart from the ďChildren OverboardĒ prediction. Itís the only card he has left. He will play Border Security hard. It will be popular in Queensland.
Agreed, for sure. But I don't think he will make a stunt out of it, rather a "policy".

And look! After yesterday's drubbing he's running with "BUILD THAT WALL!" even if it would have to be in the Timor, Arafura and Coral Seas.

You must be prescient or something.
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Old 12th February 2019, 05:06 PM   #724
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The Medical Evacuation Bill just passed the Senate, 36 - 34.
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Old 12th February 2019, 05:16 PM   #725
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Originally Posted by arthwollipot View Post
The Medical Evacuation Bill just passed the Senate, 36 - 34.
Good. Maybe we can now very quickly end this poisonous farce that is offshore detention, aka tropical gulags.
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Old 12th February 2019, 05:22 PM   #726
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Originally Posted by Norman Alexander View Post
Good. Maybe we can now very quickly end this poisonous farce that is offshore detention, aka tropical gulags.
Morrison just announced that he is re-opening Christmas Island.
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Old 12th February 2019, 05:26 PM   #727
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Originally Posted by arthwollipot View Post
Morrison just announced that he is re-opening Christmas Island.
At least it is Australian soil. He should open a holding centre on Tasmania instead if he wants to put these people on an inescapable island.
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Old 12th February 2019, 05:53 PM   #728
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Originally Posted by Norman Alexander View Post
At least it is Australian soil. He should open a holding centre on Tasmania instead if he wants to put these people on an inescapable island.
Yeah, there's a little bit down in the southeast - I hear it's connected to the mainland only by a narrow neck. It's got a name - Port... something. Port Arnold?
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Old 12th February 2019, 10:44 PM   #729
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Originally Posted by arthwollipot View Post
Yeah, there's a little bit down in the southeast - I hear it's connected to the mainland only by a narrow neck. It's got a name - Port... something. Port Arnold?
There is also luxury accommodation there. It was revolutionary when it was built in more than one way. Each person gets their own room! Carpet on the floor. Church services every Sunday. Just needs a bit of rebuilding before it can be used.

For those that know nothing about Australia
Port Arthur. The most brutal jail that could be built in brutal times (late 1700s) for the worst offenders. They were often insane on release
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Old 12th February 2019, 10:57 PM   #730
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Originally Posted by arthwollipot View Post
Yeah, there's a little bit down in the southeast - I hear it's connected to the mainland only by a narrow neck. It's got a name - Port... something. Port Arnold?
Port Arbuthnot. I think...
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Old 12th February 2019, 11:07 PM   #731
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Sorry to nit-pick but...
Originally Posted by rjh01 View Post
For those that know nothing about Australia

Port Arthur. The most brutal jail that could be built in brutal times (late 1700s) for the worst offenders. They were often insane on release.
1) It wasn't the most brutal in Tasmania, although it was dreadful enough. Sarah Island in Macquarie Harbour on the west side of Tasmania was a forced-labour camp and considered worse. Also the Norfolk Island penal settlement was for intractables.

2) It was built in the 1830's and abandoned by the 1860's.

3) Our Minister for Immigration would like to re-open them again as going concerns.
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Old 12th February 2019, 11:55 PM   #732
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Originally Posted by Norman Alexander View Post
Some of them have only just got in there!
Agreed. No new MP will want to commit hari kari when only just weeks into their term. Itís not so much about money, but to have even some minor impact to take back to an electorate pissed off with an early election. Yes, only a couple of months early, but itís the principle.
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Old 13th February 2019, 02:05 PM   #733
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So now the subject of all the other Qantas asylum seekers has come into the light again. Politicians on both sides remain blinded by this light however and keep on bleating about the dreaded "Boat People Threat'.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-02-...ation/10808394

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For example, while we are told that they have "stopped the boats", little has been said about the record 27,000 on-shore asylum applications in 2018. Most claimants have come by plane from Malaysia and China.
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Old 13th February 2019, 04:55 PM   #734
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Yeah, well they came by plane, so they're obviously not poor. It's the poor people we worry about. Rich people are okay, but we certainly wouldn't want to be overrun by poor people.
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Old 13th February 2019, 05:28 PM   #735
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Speaking of schadenfreude...

Pauline Hanson staffer James Ashby scuffles with ex-One Nation senator Brian Burston as sexual harassment claims rock party

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Pauline Hanson's chief of staff physically clashed with a former One Nation senator inside Parliament House, amid sexual harassment allegations which are rocking the party.

Senator Hanson has denied sexual harassment claims from former colleague Brian Burston, dismissing them as "retaliation" and claiming she "can't stop laughing about it".

Images showed James Ashby and senator Brian Burston apparently trading blows on Wednesday night after Senator Burston levelled the claims against Senator Hanson.

Senator Burston made a series of claims in The Daily Telegraph about Senator Hanson's behaviour towards him over the course of the past two decades, alleging she had acted inappropriately towards him numerous times.

It came after Senator Hanson told Parliament this week that an unnamed, married, male senator was the subject of a serious sexual harassment investigation.

Senator Burston told the Telegraph he believed Senator Hanson was talking about him, and denied the accusation.
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Old 13th February 2019, 05:59 PM   #736
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Originally Posted by arthwollipot View Post
Pigs mud wrestling.

No, worse than that. Hyenas ****-wrestling.
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Old 13th February 2019, 06:14 PM   #737
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Yeah, well they came by plane, so they're obviously not poor. It's the poor people we worry about. Rich people are okay, but we certainly wouldn't want to be overrun by poor people.
I appreciate your playing the part of the "concerned Liberal voter". But let's look at it purely from a money point of view.

People smugglers charge roughly $2000 per person, well down from $10,000-plus some years ago.
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People smugglers were charging as much as $US10,000 in 2013, a Senate committee heard on Monday.

But with Operation Sovereign Borders turning boats back to Indonesia, people smugglers have discounted prices to $US2000 as they struggle to attract customers.
https://www.sbs.com.au/news/people-s...nt-boat-prices

Meanwhile, a one-way air ticket from Malaysia or China costs (very) roughly $500 to $1000.

https://flights.agoda.com/flights/KU...t=bestflight_a

So it is actually cheaper to fly in than go on a boat. Plus there is also the abject silence of the current government on "illegals" arriving by air versus by boat. Plus asylum seekers by air don't get put in offshore detention. It is the cheapest, fastest, least problematic and lowest risk option for would-be asylum seekers, and is thus the most popular.
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Old 13th February 2019, 06:23 PM   #738
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Stop making sense! You know that's not what the policy is based on.
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Old 13th February 2019, 06:45 PM   #739
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Sorry! Sorry! Back to the usual government mantra now.

STOP THE WALL!! BUILD THE BOATS!!
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From the Guardian's live blog of today's parliamentary proceedings:

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So far, today has included some sort of altercation between a senator and a staffer in the marble hall, disputes over who historically sexually harassed who at a Rooty Hill RSL, blood on a senator’s door, that the bleeder doesn’t recall leaving there, but admits to, a senior staffer being banned from the parliament, the deputy prime minister [falsely] declaring rapists and murderers will be coming into the country because of the medievac bill and being called out for the false claims on Sky News and the longest ever question time, so the government avoids losing a vote that wasn’t going to happen.

Just a totally normal day in the 45th parliament.
https://www.theguardian.com/australi...-politics-live

What a circus.
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And this just in: James Ashby has been banned from Parliament.
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Old 13th February 2019, 10:59 PM   #742
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Originally Posted by arthwollipot View Post
From the Guardian's live blog of today's parliamentary proceedings:



https://www.theguardian.com/australi...-politics-live

What a circus.
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And this just in: James Ashby has been banned from Parliament.
About ******* time. Horrible little twerp.
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This seems relevant:

The difference between a snafu, a **** show, and a cluster ****

Replace the asters with the obvious words, and you'll get an article that describes this week in Parliament pretty well.
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Trouble in the Greens at the state level.


https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/austr...ijb?li=AAgfLCP
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