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Old 20th January 2019, 08:11 AM   #41
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And the address and contact information for their school is plastered all over Facebook.
For what purpose?

The sneering contempt of the leftist Resistance for basic principles of free speech is amazing
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Old 20th January 2019, 08:12 AM   #42
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Originally Posted by The Big Dog View Post
The full video completely exonerates the high schoolers, yet they are getting death threats from the Resistance.
It doesn't exonerate them. They engaged in a whole set of rude and obnoxious behavior in the video. If my daughter ran up and joined them in doing those things, I would be incredibly embarrassed.
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Old 20th January 2019, 08:13 AM   #43
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I had a longer post, but it was eaten.

I see we are getting the same kind of rewrite efforts that we got after Charlottesville.

Sorry folks. But you don't get to put on a MAGA hat and then claim you didn't mean anything by mocking the Native American. I might dismiss some of the antics as being stupid teens, but with that marker you are just racist teens.

The chaperones should have diffused this situation when it started in with the Black Israelite group.

And please, don't act like its some kind of revelation that Nathan Phillips approached the group. He said as much in his account from the start. He was hoping to diffuse the situation with his Peace Drum, but then when young Mr. Backpfeifengesicht got in his way and he ended up surrounded with the racist mockery and Build the Wall chants.

And yes, it was racist mockery. Again: MAGA hats.

The city (at least the mayor), the diocese, and the school are all taking this situation very seriously. As well they should. I suspect some chaperones may need as much disciplining as the kids.

I expect the Dead Agenting of Nathan Phillips to start shortly.
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Old 20th January 2019, 08:15 AM   #44
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I'm not interested in your racial agenda or your white backlash chip on your shoulder. A school should not be bringing its pupils to a political rally, and the behaviour of the kids in that video shows a bunch of ignorant brats who have no respect for their elders.

Catholic schools demand better standards of behaviour than that where I come from, maybe the Bishop in charge of that diocese in Kentucky needs to sack a few people.
Yes, in fact, they should and they do in the United States almost everyday.
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Old 20th January 2019, 08:17 AM   #45
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Yes, in fact, they should and they do in the United States almost everyday.
No they should not, its completely inappropriate. They would be better off in a classroom learning some history - maybe start with teaching them about the existence of Native Americans.
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Old 20th January 2019, 08:17 AM   #46
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Some kids chanting crap at a guy singing a song... yeah, but am I the only one who's more focused on the guy who tells his friend to kill his own kid?

That.

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Old 20th January 2019, 08:20 AM   #47
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Shocking. The gall of these whites to actually exercise their fundamental democratic right and attend a rally. Some of them were wearing Trump hats, for Christ's sake, and one of them had the audacity to dance around in front of his mates! The school should be shut down! The parents should be ashamed! Why can't they be like that group of blacks and shout homophobic slurs, encourage violence, swear, repeatedly scream the word '******' and liken people of different skin colour to 'cave men'.
All the kids had to do to avoid what's coming is not wear the MAGA hats. This story would be a nothing burger if they hadn't been wearing those hats. They chose to put on racist apparel and now they're going to get what they deserve.
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Old 20th January 2019, 08:22 AM   #48
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Wow.... are we really at the point where gross misrepresentations about an event are now prefaced by tales of how the thread starter recommended to his friend that he murder his 2 year old child?
No, "we" are not there. The OP, apparently, is there. Just like we are not where we should blame any event of stupidity in the US on Trump.

We should concentrate on the stupid things he actually does. It's not like there isn't enough.

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Old 20th January 2019, 08:22 AM   #49
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I'm not interested in your racial agenda or your white backlash chip on your shoulder.
I wish I could reciprocate, but I'm very interested in your racist targeting of certain groups and your disregard for facts in your eagerness to demonise groups you don't like, even if they are groups of children. It would be great if you could explain how such hypocrisy can be wielded under any expectation that reasonable people might take it seriously.

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A school should not be bringing its pupils to a political rally, and the behaviour of the kids in that video shows a bunch of ignorant brats who have no respect for their elders.
Rubbish. Of the two groups in the video, which is the better behaved? You can't even bring yourself to say it. Or maybe there are three groups, including the drummer and his mate. You know, the drummer, a 60+ year old man who decides to walk right into a group of school kids, confront them and start banging a drum, then gets triggered when one of them stares at him.

And these kids are what? Fourteen, fifteen, sixteen? Most of them aren't saying or doing anything, even under constant abuse and taunting by that bunch of black lunatics you tacitly endorse. A couple dance around. Some cheer. One smirks. Maybe you can detail what standards you're applying here, and the hole you pulled them out of.

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In case you thought the apple was falling far from the tree.

tl:dr Mom of hat-boy says 'Black Muslims' were to blame for everything. Black Isrealites may be a looooot of things, but Muslim is not one of them.
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Old 20th January 2019, 08:25 AM   #51
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All the kids had to do to avoid what's coming is not wear the MAGA hats.
You're right, and so completely wrong at the same time.
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Old 20th January 2019, 08:26 AM   #52
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No they should not, its completely inappropriate.
Not in the United States. One would be better off in a classroom learning some history - maybe start with teaching them about the existence of Free Speech and the First Amendment?
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Old 20th January 2019, 08:26 AM   #53
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Shocking. The gall of these whites to actually exercise their fundamental democratic right and attend a rally. Some of them were wearing Trump hats, for Christ's sake, and one of them had the audacity to dance around in front of his mates! The school should be shut down! The parents should be ashamed! Why can't they be like that group of blacks and shout homophobic slurs, encourage violence, swear, repeatedly scream the word '******' and liken people of different skin colour to 'cave men'.
Don't forget "coon ass, super Sambo, uncle Tom, cracker, dirty cracker, crusty cracker, children of sodomy and incest" and threats of physical violence, just to repeat a few.

An hour and half of bigotry, racism, harassment and threats of violence and all we get is 20 seconds of some teenagers doing the tomahawk chop.
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Old 20th January 2019, 08:29 AM   #54
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Don't forget "coon ass, super Sambo, uncle Tom, cracker, dirty cracker, crusty cracker, children of sodomy and incest" and threats of physical violence, just to repeat a few.

An hour and half of bigotry, racism, harassment and threats of violence and all we get is 20 seconds of some teenagers doing the tomahawk chop.
Of course, it is the race hustlers out there scamming the self loathing members of the Resistance.
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Old 20th January 2019, 08:31 AM   #55
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Don't forget "coon ass, super Sambo, uncle Tom, cracker, dirty cracker, crusty cracker, children of sodomy and incest" and threats of physical violence, just to repeat a few.

An hour and half of bigotry, racism, harassment and threats of violence and all we get is 20 seconds of some teenagers doing the tomahawk chop.
Yet it's the latter which makes the headlines and prompts worldwide backlash.

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Actress and activist Alyssa Milano tweeted that the footage “brought me to tears,” while actor Chris Evans said the students’ actions were “appalling” and “shameful.
You have to wonder if this insanity represents the beginning of the fall of mankind.
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Old 20th January 2019, 08:32 AM   #56
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Phillips, who fought in the Vietnam War, says in an interview “I started going that way, and that guy in the hat stood in my way and we were at an impasse. He just blocked my way and wouldn’t allow me to retreat.”

Totally false.
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Old 20th January 2019, 08:33 AM   #57
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Its no wonder America's in such a state.
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Old 20th January 2019, 08:33 AM   #58
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Yet it's the latter which makes the headlines and prompts worldwide backlash.



You have to wonder if this insanity represents the beginning of the fall of mankind.
Good way to identify the race grifters among us.
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Old 20th January 2019, 08:37 AM   #59
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Its no wonder America's in such a state.
yeah, respecting fundamental human rights enshrined in the Constitution.
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Old 20th January 2019, 08:41 AM   #60
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In the range of responses including NTA, YTA, NAH and ESH*, I go with the last one. The students are what we would call "hooligans" in the UK, the old man with the drum is passive aggressive, and the preachers are just revolting.

*https://twitter.com/fasterthanlime/s...59234778918914
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Old 20th January 2019, 08:43 AM   #61
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Its no wonder America's in such a state.
No joke, the willingly ignorant and gullible allow the media to whip them into a frenzy of prejudice and bigotry against a group of kids of whom they know nothing of. Then when evidence of the media lying to them is available, they ignore it completely and continue to stew in their own ignorance and stupidity while blaming the rest of America for the false reality they live in.
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Old 20th January 2019, 08:46 AM   #62
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black hebrew israelites, literal hate group (as defined by the SPLC)

Race Grifters go after the high schoolers.
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Old 20th January 2019, 08:50 AM   #63
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Racist, homophobic hate group assails high school kids:

https://twitter.com/JoeySalads/statu...44851452809216

Will the race grifters like Milano and the rest mention this?

Nope.
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Old 20th January 2019, 08:53 AM   #64
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Don't forget "coon ass, super Sambo, uncle Tom, cracker, dirty cracker, crusty cracker, children of sodomy and incest" and threats of physical violence, just to repeat a few.

For those who are too lazy to click the video linked earlier to find out what actually happened instead of what the media wants you to believe happened, the above did not come from the white boys.
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Video from a literal hate group

https://twitter.com/Quirlygirl/statu...18572532793344

Getting taken down all across twitter and elsewhere as soon as it goes up, because it does not fit in with the race grifters hate agenda.

At 1:10 the Native American contingent shows up.

He could not back away ya see, because about 20 of his followers were standing behind him with their cameras.

Race grifters gonna grift.

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Old 20th January 2019, 08:57 AM   #66
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What's Peter Noone from Herman's Hermits got to do with all this?
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Video from a literal hate group

https://twitter.com/Quirlygirl/statu...18572532793344

Getting taken down all across twitter and elsewhere as soon as it goes up, because it does not fit in with the race grifters hate agenda.

At 1:10 the Native American contingent shows up.

He could not back away ya see, because about 20 of his followers were standing behind him with their cameras.

Race grifters gonna grift.

I would say this is a pretty egregious example of race grifters grifting, but it's not. What was it, one week ago, that some "white nationalist", inspired by Trump, gunned down a seven-year-old black girl?

Now here we are again, same ****, different day.

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Honestly, people, you don't have to pick a side. It's entirely legitimate to think that absolutely everybody involved is a ****.

Oh, and yes schools should endorse protesting. There were a hell of a lot of people that approved of schools endorsing the recent protests where kids walked out of class and/or marched in order to try to get more restrictions on guns. There were a hell of a lot of people who criticised the schools that punished the pupils that did so.

It works both ways. If you think schools should endorse pupils protesting against guns, you have to allow schools to endorse pupils protesting against abortions. You can't agree with one and disagree with the other just because you agree with one cause and disagree with the other. That's not what free speech is.
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Its no wonder America's in such a state.

If they’d had proper walls around the country 500 years ago they wouldn’t be having these problems.
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Honestly, people, you don't have to pick a side. It's entirely legitimate to think that absolutely everybody involved is a ****.
But there are different levels of **** ishness (I'm helping the forum censor here).

One level of **** ishness might be kids jumping up and down and staring at someone.

Another level of **** ishness could be a grown man confronting a group of kids, banging a drum in their faces then lying about what transpired to make them look bad.

Yet a third level of **** isheness might involve constant and explicit racist shouting, homophobic rhetoric, calls for violence, and intimidation of children by adult men.
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All the kids had to do to avoid what's coming is not wear the MAGA hats. This story would be a nothing burger if they hadn't been wearing those hats. They chose to put on racist apparel and now they're going to get what they deserve.
I'm sorry to disrupt your world view, but Make America Great Again isn't a racist sentiment. It's not racist to support the President. Maybe if these kids were singling out one specific group of people and claiming that their lives matter as if other lives don't, you could label them racist. But a MAGA hat? Give me a ******* break!
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Ok, the kids were insensitive and immature, doing the tomahawk thing. Probably not the first time kids were being stupid.

The culture that they are growing up in must be highly politically charged for so many kids to be sporting MAGAwear. I guess at a Catholic school in Kentucky, this is normal? I would hope not, but any posters familiar with the area?

They are at an anti-abortion rally. Ok, catholic and all.

Bogative and TBD have a valid point with their video submissions, though. Phillips and his group walked up to them and got right up in the kids' faces. The kid being lambasted for being smarmy was standing still with an awkward smile while a full grown man walked up to him, chanting and beating a drum in his face. Not sure why the kid is being crucified over this.

And the black guy in particular in Phillip's group is using some pretty hateful language, which seems unprovoked. As far as outright bigotry goes, only one side is showing it. The 'adults'.

Yet the boys are being blasted for taunting the indigenous protesters. That's not what is happening here. The boys are being childish and jerks, yes. But they are children. The adults need to take a long look at their behavior, too.
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All the kids had to do to avoid what's coming is not wear the MAGA hats. This story would be a nothing burger if they hadn't been wearing those hats. They chose to put on racist apparel and now they're going to get what they deserve.
I'm pretty sure a bunch of white teens getting filmed chanting, "build that wall," at Native Americans is going to draw attention to them MAGA hats or not.
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I'm sorry to disrupt your world view, but Make America Great Again isn't a racist sentiment. It's not racist to support the President. Maybe if these kids were singling out one specific group of people and claiming that their lives matter as if other lives don't, you could label them racist. But a MAGA hat? Give me a ******* break!
"Very fine people on both sides". MAGA might as well be a swastika.
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I'm pretty sure a bunch of white teens getting filmed chanting, "build that wall," at Native Americans is going to draw attention to them MAGA hats or not.
Link and a timestamp, please?
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Honestly, people, you don't have to pick a side. It's entirely legitimate to think that absolutely everybody involved is a ****.

Oh, and yes schools should endorse protesting. There were a hell of a lot of people that approved of schools endorsing the recent protests where kids walked out of class and/or marched in order to try to get more restrictions on guns. There were a hell of a lot of people who criticised the schools that punished the pupils that did so.

It works both ways. If you think schools should endorse pupils protesting against guns, you have to allow schools to endorse pupils protesting against abortions. You can't agree with one and disagree with the other just because you agree with one cause and disagree with the other. That's not what free speech is.

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"Very fine people on both sides". MAGA might as well be a swastika.
For an adult, agreed. But these were kids, probably mimicking the adults in their families, town, and schools. Do we cut kids slack for not appreciating what they are doing or wearing? I'm inclined to. Kids sometimes just like to belong, or be contrary, while they are growing up. They need to be guided, but were the adults in this scenario helping to do that?
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"Very fine people on both sides". MAGA might as well be a swastika.
Yeah, because those kids were just like the SS.
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I was a little surprised this got the news coverage it did. I use google news on my phone and it was all over the place.

Admittedly I haven't read much on it, but from my uninformed opinion I would say the kids look smug, and it sounds like the Native American guy is a passive aggressive douche.
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To equate anything the children did with any of the lies, hate, and provocation from the adults is ludicrous. Those kids are way classier than all those scumbags that had their children saying and holding signs with "**** Donald Trump" in other protests.


The ******** doxing these kids and threatening violence should be arrested. Any groups those ******** belong to should have all their assets seized as hate groups.
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