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Old 4th June 2019, 01:59 PM   #161
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Trump turned down a meeting with Corbyn because he thinks Corbyn is too 'negative'

Lots of praise for Farage and promises the best trade deal ever as long as we give him the NHS to divide up between US healthcare corporations.
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Old 4th June 2019, 02:25 PM   #162
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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop View Post
Trump turned down a meeting with Corbyn because he thinks Corbyn is too 'negative'

Lots of praise for Farage and promises the best trade deal ever as long as we give him the NHS to divide up between US healthcare corporations.
To be fair, Trump had no idea what NHS was. Theresa May had to explain to him the letters stood for, 'National Health Service'.

OTOH he may have known only too well what it means and is lining up private American medical insurance companies to replace it.

That will be a disaster. The huge numbers of people being bankrupted in the US is invariably due to their being unable to meet their medical bills.

People have to stay in jobs they hate as they and their family are 100% reliant on their employer's healthcare insurance provider.

This is what Farage is advocating - privatising the NHS - and this is why Trump was keen to meet him and encourage Nigel to go for a no-deal Brexit so that Trump's Chapter 13 guys can move in.
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Old 4th June 2019, 02:54 PM   #163
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The right-wing press are desperate to promote fascism so of course they side with Trump.

We saw the scurrilous Rees-Mogg show his true colours today when he called Khan 'rude' amongst a general diatribe, 'he compared Trump to someone who killed millions of people' when actually Khan attacked Trump's fascist rhetoric.

Then there was Adam Boulton of SKY News getting really aggressive with an MP who stuck up for Khan, as did various other reporters throughout the morning in tones of, how dare you protest against our wonderful ally? And the ridiculous accusation: 'So how come Jeremy Corbyn meets with the Hamas and the IRA but refuses to dine with dear benign Trump?' when it was over forty? fifty? years ago he met up with the likes of Gerry Adams, when he was a Citizen Smith-type 'Power-to-the-People' socialist clutching the obigatory, 'Thoughts of Chairman Mao.'

Well, Adam, I am sure when you were a callow youth, you, too, did some things that seem crazy today. Perhaps you wore tartan bondage trousers and a safety pin through your ear as you gobbed and jumped at the Roxy Club along with Joe Strummer (another pampered public school 'rebel').

I have to say though, some of the replies were pretty stupid, of the kind, 'we disrespect Trump because he's disrespectful himself.'
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Old 4th June 2019, 03:40 PM   #164
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Originally Posted by Vixen View Post
Perhaps you wore tartan bondage trousers and a safety pin through your ear as you gobbed and jumped at the Roxy Club along with Joe Strummer (another pampered public school 'rebel').
Another quirk of English - "public schools" in the UK are what we would call "private schools" in the U.S.

Also, why do I used periods with U.S. and not with UK? Dunno, it just seems right.

I thought that NHS thing was a joke. Maybe I could go for it if it worked the other way - expand single-provider UHS to cover the U.S. My guess is Trump had absolutely no idea what he was saying.
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Old 4th June 2019, 05:48 PM   #165
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Originally Posted by Matthew Best View Post
That's not a citation
It's not even comprehensible.

I think we are being trolled, folks. Let's not feed him anylonger.
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Originally Posted by Minoosh View Post
I thought that NHS thing was a joke. Maybe I could go for it if it worked the other way - expand single-provider UHS to cover the U.S. My guess is Trump had absolutely no idea what he was saying.
He not only has no idea what he is saying, he ignores anyone who tries to tell him this. The very idea that he would think the UK NHS is some sort of bargaining chip or negotiable product speaks to his utter and deliberate ignorance.
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Old 4th June 2019, 06:10 PM   #167
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With Boris as PM and a 'no deal' Brexit the NHS being sold off is a certainty.
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Old 4th June 2019, 07:02 PM   #168
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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop View Post
With Boris as PM and a 'no deal' Brexit the NHS being sold off is a certainty.
It can't be. It's a government entity like the US military is a government entity. It would need to be privatised first, then sold off.

Can you imagine the US privatising its whole military establishment then selling it off to another country to run at a cheaper price? Someone like...say...China? "Selling the NHS" is that sort of silly.
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Old 4th June 2019, 07:28 PM   #169
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Amazing. This is the depth of leftist critique and "wit"? You honestly can't see how childish, how puerile it is?
I swear by Mercury’s Sandals that I am trying to treat you with respect.

The photo essay is titled, “The Funniest Signs at the Trump Protest,” and you are taking issue with the level of intellect displayed in the selected protest signs.

As for President Trump’s intelligence, let’s have a look at the record. May 2016, “People said I want to go and buy debt and default on debt, and I mean, these people are crazy. This is the United States government. First of all, you never have to default because you print the money, I hate to tell you, OK?"

Do we really need to provide more examples?
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Originally Posted by Minoosh View Post
Another quirk of English - "public schools" in the UK are what we would call "private schools" in the U.S.

Also, why do I used periods with U.S. and not with UK? Dunno, it just seems right.

I thought that NHS thing was a joke. Maybe I could go for it if it worked the other way - expand single-provider UHS to cover the U.S. My guess is Trump had absolutely no idea what he was saying.
Not unusual for the trumpfster and his little fog too!!!!!
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Old 4th June 2019, 08:53 PM   #171
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I think we get it only too well.

The guy is a joke.
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Originally Posted by Minoosh View Post
Another quirk of English - "public schools" in the UK are what we would call "private schools" in the U.S.

Also, why do I used periods with U.S. and not with UK? Dunno, it just seems right.

I thought that NHS thing was a joke. Maybe I could go for it if it worked the other way - expand single-provider UHS to cover the U.S. My guess is Trump had absolutely no idea what he was saying.
The trumpfster rarely has any real ides of what is tumbling out of his mouth!!!
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Originally Posted by KDLarsen View Post
As the Guardian rightly points out, being slagged off by trump should bump Sadiq Khan up a few points in the polls ahead of the upcoming mayoral election next year.
Khan already has the fourth highest positive rating of any Labour or Tory politician in the country, and has a lower negative rating than the three above him. It's not like he actually needs much help in that department.
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Old 5th June 2019, 12:27 AM   #174
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Originally Posted by Minoosh View Post
Another quirk of English - "public schools" in the UK are what we would call "private schools" in the U.S.

Also, why do I used periods with U.S. and not with UK?

Because if you used them with UK they would be full stops.
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With Boris as PM and a 'no deal' Brexit the NHS being sold off is a certainty.
I think the same is true of pretty much all of the Conservative front-runners. The only difference with some is that it wouldn't require a no-deal Brexit to trigger the selling off of the NHS

I was chatting ranting in the pub last night and a couple of members of Wyld Bird Seed insisted that the NHS was safe in Tory hands and simply refused to believe that a significant proportion of services had already been privatised, NHS funding had been reduced in real terms since 2010 (especially since the NHS is picking up the slack from underfunded local authority services) and that influential Conservative Party MPs have it as a stated objective.
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Trump Tweets

I kept hearing that there would be “massive” rallies against me in the UK, but it was quite the opposite. The big crowds, which the Corrupt Media hates to show, were those that gathered in support of the USA and me. They were big & enthusiastic as opposed to the organized flops!
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Old 5th June 2019, 01:37 AM   #177
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There was a giant balloon of him as a baby and a statue of him ******** on a toilet that blared out comical fart sounds plus many numbers of protesters.

By 'quite the opposite' does he think they were there to support him?

Where was the 'big crowd' in support of him and the USA?
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Could not have been treated more warmly in the United Kingdom by the Royal Family or the people. Our relationship has never been better, and I see a very big Trade Deal down the road. “This trip has been an incredible success for the President.” @IngrahamAngle
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Did the Palace count the silverware are Dumbass's visit or did they give him the chrome plated stuff?
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"This evening, we thank God for the brave sons of the United Kingdom and the United States, who defeated the Nazis and the Nazi regime, and liberated millions from tyranny. The bond between our nations was forever sealed in that great crusade."

"On behalf of all Americans, I offer a toast to the eternal friendship of our people, the vitality of our nations, and to the long-cherished and truly remarkable reign of Her Majesty The Queen."
So, no mention of the sons of Canada and all the other nations involved on D-Day, then?
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Well, the number of vacuous, virtue-signalling twats "expected" to rock up in in central London tomorrow and **** up everyone else's day depends on who's **** it's pulled from. But I guess there are enough of these jobless ne're-do-wells with literally nothing better to do and zero capacity for independent thought to swell the numbers for the same media organs that form their "opinions" for them.
****, but that lazy stereotype is ******* lazy. Do people not get to take time off work where you live? Not work part-time? Or self-employed? Or pensioners?
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I'll be quite looking forward to seeing people, even Jeremy Corbyn, take a day off from their jobs to protest the vacuous twat who pulls just about everything from his arse. This sort of thing should happen more often in the states, since most people with a rational viewpoint find it easy to identify the moral degradation he represents simply by listening to him speak (and tweet).
It's easier in the UK, what with the legal minimum of 28 days paid leave from work!
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Labor Day in the United Kingdom, like most of the world, is celebrated on May 1.
No, 1 May is "May Day," but the public holiday is the first Monday in the Month - officially the "Early May Bank Holiday" (catchy, eh?).
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The problem with leftists/liberals is lack of self-awareness commensurate with their mediocre, or worse, IQ's. Whatever else Trump may be, he most certainly is not stupid - that's something lefties have to take as a given to flatter their own severely limited cognitive abilities.

So here we are, swarms of them making what amount to puerile pee-pee and vagina jokes because they can't articulate a single intelligible point. Forgive me if I'm sceptical of any claims that "this is all the Orange Man deserves" and therefore no effort need be made to argue coherently - these morons are simply incapable of it.
I think you might need a little help there...

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What a surprise, college-educated people (smart people, right?) are predominantly leftists (Democrat voters in the US). However, exclude graduates in the arts, humanities and (in particular) 'social sciences' (the wellspring of cultural marxism) and include only STEM graduates, and guess what? No such preponderance of overt leftism and democrat voters.

That said, don't underestimate the peer-pressure, if not outright intimidation brought to bear on campuses to toe the PC line and at least pay lip service to Official Doctrine.
Chicken meets egg...
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“westerners”? This sounds like cold war era division between the democratic west and the communist Soviet block. Since you don’t count yourself among the democratic west can we surmise you are either a Russian apologist or a Russian troll?
Are we actually significant enough to be trolled by Russians here, or did they take a wrong turning somewhere?!
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He not only has no idea what he is saying, he ignores anyone who tries to tell him this. The very idea that he would think the UK NHS is some sort of bargaining chip or negotiable product speaks to his utter and deliberate ignorance.
I think he's probably just unaware of the sensitivity around it and just went with an off the top of his head, tough guy negotiator stance of 'Of course everything is on the table'.

TBH this isn't one I'd absolutely castigate him for - probably naivety rather than some grand plan. When I have to draw up business cases, I always have to include options that I know won't fly because they are still options and they have to be put there so they can be considered and then rejected.
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It can't be. It's a government entity like the US military is a government entity. It would need to be privatised first, then sold off.

Can you imagine the US privatising its whole military establishment then selling it off to another country to run at a cheaper higher price? Someone like...say...China? "Selling the NHS" is that sort of silly.
FTFY.
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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop View Post
Trump Tweets

I kept hearing that there would be “massive” rallies against me in the UK, but it was quite the opposite. The big crowds, which the Corrupt Media hates to show, were those that gathered in support of the USA and me. They were big & enthusiastic as opposed to the organized flops!
Moron.
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He not only has no idea what he is saying, he ignores anyone who tries to tell him this. The very idea that he would think the UK NHS is some sort of bargaining chip or negotiable product speaks to his utter and deliberate ignorance.
I'm not even sure what could be negotiated if the UK was amenable to the idea.
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I think he's probably just unaware of the sensitivity around it and just went with an off the top of his head, tough guy negotiator stance of 'Of course everything is on the table'.

TBH this isn't one I'd absolutely castigate him for - probably naivety rather than some grand plan. When I have to draw up business cases, I always have to include options that I know won't fly because they are still options and they have to be put there so they can be considered and then rejected.
Or just believing whatever Farage told him.
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Moron.
Apparently he's actually really clever, and it's the rest of us that are stupid.
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Apparently he's actually really clever, and it's the rest of us that are stupid.
He is clever. Every one in UK knows he is lying and the protests have been large and the crowds supporting him........ crowds is the wrong word.... the few people who went out of their way to cheer him is embarrassingly low. However his tweets are not aimed at an informed audience in the UK or those in America who look for confirmation of his 'facts'. He is tweeting to people who believe him and will swear that he took 4 hours to walk down the mall shaking hands with the well wishers.
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I kept hearing that there would be “massive” rallies against me in the UK, but it was quite the opposite. The big crowds, which the Corrupt Media hates to show, were those that gathered in support of the USA and me. They were big & enthusiastic as opposed to the organized flops!
Nowadays you don't really need a big rally, just enough people to tweet a picture which looks like a big rally. I've seen 3 Trump-related views on Facebook; the big baby balloon and various anti-Trump placards (don't know where or how many involved), a clip of a rally where the speaker is praising Trump (various flags but no banners mentioning Trump and it might well be an old clip from an event which wasn't actually about Trump) and a photo of the Mall, barrier-lined and flag-decked but deserted, whose photographer said he'd spoken to a cop on duty who agreed that it was distinctly less busy than they had prepared for and further agreed that it was pretty funny.

Of course there might have been massive, jubilant street parties celebrating Trump's visit which the MSM hushed up. But then again there might not.
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Trump tells Prince Charles US has "clean climate": “The United States right now has among the cleanest climates there are based on all statistics." "We want the best water, the cleanest water. It’s crystal clean, has to be crystal clean clear.”
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Did the Palace count the silverware are Dumbass's visit or did they give him the chrome plated stuff?
Fake silver plated plastic -which he likely quietly pocketed.
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So, no mention of the sons of Canada and all the other nations involved on D-Day, then?
Those who do not remember history are doomed to repeat it.
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Fake silver plated plastic -which he likely quietly pocketed.
They served him McDonald's hamburgers and fries, no utensils required. They did put the good tarp down, to catch all the splashing.
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Old 5th June 2019, 08:42 AM   #199
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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop View Post
Trump tells Prince Charles US has "clean climate": “The United States right now has among the cleanest climates there are based on all statistics." "We want the best water, the cleanest water. It’s crystal clean, has to be crystal clean clear.”
Yep all that mining waste is putting the cleaners from the clean coal into the water making it all cleaner.
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Originally Posted by fuelair View Post
Those who do not remember history are doomed to repeat it.
Though I hope trumpfy is doomed this week!!!!!
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