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Old 13th June 2019, 10:31 AM   #281
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Originally Posted by Baylor View Post
You are defending white supremacy. White people who choose to be around other white people is white supremacy. There are plenty of people of color who live around South Point. No white (supremacist) person reached out to them and offered them to attend to make the meeting more diverse. It's because skeptics prefer the meeting to be white.
Ok this is silly. MAYBE it's because black people historically have high degree of religiosity and this in and of itself is a primary reason we're underrepresented (yes I'm black) in the skeptic community. MAAAYBE. Religiosity doesn't lend itself to skepticism. Implying it's the result of the desire of the attendees is silly. I must've missed the "no coloreds" clause..
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Old 15th June 2019, 10:07 PM   #282
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I thought HRC was the wrong candidate for the Dems at the wrong time but she was still immeasurably a better pick for President than Trump in terms of policies, experience, intelligence and being articulate.
All the wrong criteria for being 'better'. A good president should be a man of the people - a racist, misogynist, lying narcissist who projects all his faults onto others - just like us.

Trump was objectively better than any other candidate (including Hillary). No one else could have convinced the Deplorables to out themselves. No one else would have shown us the depths of depravity that Republicans would plunge to. No one else would have made a mockery of the legislative process and openly questioned our right to democracy and free speech. No one else could have turned the US into the laughing stock it is today, with the promise of even more to come.

Yes, for those us who hate America, Trump was definitely the better choice!
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Old 16th June 2019, 03:37 AM   #283
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Yes, it could be if Bernie Sanders types are even in control of the White House. Trump is better than Hillary Clinton too.
Oh I agree! Trump is the perfect US leader...if you are not American and your nation is in trade competition with the USA. He has been handed his own arse on a plate so many times and yet he keeps on coming back for repeat embarrassments. Any tinpot country, let alone the G20 nations, can make advantage over the USA just by pretending to kow-tow to Trump personally.

Sanders or Clinton would have been MUCH more difficult and tougher to deal with. They have brains and experience, and understand US statecraft and trade policies.
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Old 16th June 2019, 06:01 AM   #284
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Originally Posted by Roger Ramjets View Post
All the wrong criteria for being 'better'. A good president should be a man of the people - a racist, misogynist, lying narcissist who projects all his faults onto others - just like us.

Trump was objectively better than any other candidate (including Hillary). No one else could have convinced the Deplorables to out themselves. No one else would have shown us the depths of depravity that Republicans would plunge to. No one else would have made a mockery of the legislative process and openly questioned our right to democracy and free speech. No one else could have turned the US into the laughing stock it is today, with the promise of even more to come.

Yes, for those us who hate America, Trump was definitely the better choice!
I frighten myself. My better half is fearful of the damage Trump and his cabal of boot-lickers is doing to the wider world. But the evil imp within me delights in the thought of a right royal descent into hell for the US for their collective idiocy in hoisting to power such a manifestly destructive p***k as The Donald. While the MAGA crowd chants, "America; ****** yah!", I retort, "America, ****** you!"

All the while caring for and desiring the best for my friends to my immediate south.
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Old 22nd June 2019, 07:13 AM   #285
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Originally Posted by tanabear View Post
We didn't start any new wars????

Sure if you don't include Libya, Syria and Yemen.
Please, tell us more about how the US started the wars in Libya, Syria, and Yemen.
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Old 22nd June 2019, 07:16 AM   #286
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Originally Posted by Lurch View Post
I frighten myself. My better half is fearful of the damage Trump and his cabal of boot-lickers is doing to the wider world. But the evil imp within me delights in the thought of a right royal descent into hell for the US for their collective idiocy in hoisting to power such a manifestly destructive p***k as The Donald. While the MAGA crowd chants, "America; ****** yah!", I retort, "America, ****** you!"

All the while caring for and desiring the best for my friends to my immediate south.
Having lived in the States, and loving and caring deeply for the country... I feel kinda the same way. It's been apparent for a long time what kind of person and leader Trump is, and if 40% of Americans support him... maybe they don't deserve better. Maybe they need some catastrophic Trump-induced failures to really drive drive home why they shouldn't support such leaders.
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Old 22nd June 2019, 09:13 AM   #287
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Old 22nd June 2019, 09:48 AM   #288
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Originally Posted by Safe-Keeper View Post
Having lived in the States, and loving and caring deeply for the country... I feel kinda the same way. It's been apparent for a long time what kind of person and leader Trump is, and if 40% of Americans support him... maybe they don't deserve better. Maybe they need some catastrophic Trump-induced failures to really drive drive home why they shouldn't support such leaders.

I don't think supporters of Trump could be convinced that any Trump induced disaster was actually Trump's fault.
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Old 22nd June 2019, 01:30 PM   #289
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I don't think supporters of Trump could be convinced that any Trump induced disaster was actually Trump's fault.
Let me know when you find a Trump induced disaster, and you and I can try it out.
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Old 22nd June 2019, 02:10 PM   #290
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Having lived in the States, and loving and caring deeply for the country... I feel kinda the same way. It's been apparent for a long time what kind of person and leader Trump is, and if 40% of Americans support him... maybe they don't deserve better. Maybe they need some catastrophic Trump-induced failures to really drive drive home why they shouldn't support such leaders.
But then the 60% of us who don't support him have to suffer, too.
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Old 22nd June 2019, 02:18 PM   #291
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But then the 60% of us who don't support him have to suffer, too.
Of course it's not an actual, rational desire. More like this instinctive "can't he do something really bad so everyone sees what an ******** he is?" kind of thought.
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Old 22nd June 2019, 02:25 PM   #292
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Let me know when you find a Trump induced disaster, and you and I can try it out.
Not enough room in 65536 characters to list them all.
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Old 22nd June 2019, 02:46 PM   #293
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Not enough room in 65536 characters to list them all.
Whatever you have to tell yourself, I guess. Less work for me, though. Thanks!
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Old 22nd June 2019, 04:18 PM   #294
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Fringe resets never seemed like much work. It's far more work for everyone else to explain the same thing over and over than it is for denialists to pretend they've never heard the explanation.
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Old 22nd June 2019, 04:31 PM   #295
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Of course it's not an actual, rational desire. More like this instinctive "can't he do something really bad so everyone sees what an ******** he is?" kind of thought.
I feel ya! Part of me feels the same way, too. Sadly, I think it would actually take something horrendous for his base to turn on him...and even then some would claim it wasn't Trump's fault.
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Old 22nd June 2019, 04:32 PM   #296
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Let me know when you find a Trump induced disaster, and you and I can try it out.
NM. This is not the Trump thread,

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Fringe resets never seemed like much work. It's far more work for everyone else to explain the same thing over and over than it is for denialists to pretend they've never heard the explanation.
Amen to that! They repeat the same disproved claims/nonsense over and over again despite their having been addressed multiple times already. Selective memory at its worst.
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Old 22nd June 2019, 05:30 PM   #298
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Let me know when you find a Trump induced disaster, and you and I can try it out.
Remember that time I was pointing out how Trump's response to the Puerto Rico hurricane was a disaster, and Trump sycophants like you and Ziggurat wouldn't have any of it? I particularly enjoyed the time when I was quoting stats to Zigg and he was pulling nonsense out of his ass to ignore reality. Like I pointed out the PR response after 1 or 2 weeks and he said, "That's Too Short!" and then I pointed out the response after 1 - 1.5 years and he said, "That's Too Long!!" Good times, man. "Goldilocks" never would tell me what time frame I should be considering.

So anyway, yeah: We already tried it out. Trump supporters failed miserably.

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Plus its the real world with 18,000 moving pieces and parts. Every time you point out something Trump waded into and chaos ensued, here comes an army of excuses, false equivalences, and hypothetical navel-gazing to explain how it was "already like that before."
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Oh I agree! Trump is the perfect US leader...if you are not American and your nation is in trade competition with the USA. He has been handed his own arse on a plate so many times and yet he keeps on coming back for repeat embarrassments. Any tinpot country, let alone the G20 nations, can make advantage over the USA just by pretending to kow-tow to Trump personally.

Sanders or Clinton would have been MUCH more difficult and tougher to deal with. They have brains and experience, and understand US statecraft and trade policies.
The problem is they use Socialism as a way to get along and interact with other countries at the expense of their own country. Winston Churchill said it best when he described Socialism as equally shared misery.
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Old 27th June 2019, 08:43 PM   #301
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The problem is they use Socialism as a way to get along and interact with other countries at the expense of their own country. Winston Churchill said it best when he described Socialism as equally shared misery.
Don't know much about history,
Don't know much about diplomacy,

But I do know that I love Trump...
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