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Old 26th July 2018, 09:15 PM   #281
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Article on The Daily Caller advocates that the protesting athletes should be stripped of their salaries, flogged and then put up in stocks for public humiliation. People in the comments say that kneeling athletes should be executed or dismembered.
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Old 27th July 2018, 04:25 AM   #282
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Originally Posted by Travis View Post
Article on The Daily Caller advocates that the protesting athletes should be stripped of their salaries, flogged and then put up in stocks for public humiliation.
My fetish sense is tingling. Perhaps all of this is just repressed sexual urges coming out as patriotism. Perhaps all patriotism is really sex. Everything is sex or death, after all.
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Old 27th July 2018, 06:44 AM   #283
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Originally Posted by TragicMonkey View Post
My fetish sense is tingling. Perhaps all of this is just repressed sexual urges coming out as patriotism. Perhaps all patriotism is really sex. Everything is sex or death, after all.
Interesting idea. What would you say is the point of forced diversity? Sex? Or death?
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Old 27th July 2018, 07:41 AM   #284
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Originally Posted by theprestige View Post
Interesting idea. What would you say is the point of forced diversity? Sex? Or death?
Both 'forced' diversity and a fear of diversity are rooted in sex. The latter is more unhealthy in my opinion, because the sexual urges are being repressed and denied.
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Is Forced Diversity a new white nationalist sitcom where a good Christian white family is forced to take in refugees who naturally turn out to be planning a terrorist attack?
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Originally Posted by theprestige View Post
Interesting idea. What would you say is the point of forced diversity? Sex? Or death?
Can you give some real world examples of "forced diversity", including who is doing the forcing, how they are doing the forcing, and how any previous lack of diversity had come about as background?

ETA: also some stats on how much gets forced vs. non-forced.
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Say patriotism is a repressed sexual fetish, and nobody bats an eye.

Ask about diversity, and everybody loses their minds.
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Originally Posted by theprestige View Post
Say patriotism is a repressed sexual fetish, and nobody bats an eye.

Ask about diversity, and everybody loses their minds.
I just considered the source for the patriotism fetish thing, and didn't think it was serious. Now if it it is, i ask for the same serious backing of the claim.
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Originally Posted by theprestige View Post
Say patriotism is a repressed sexual fetish, and nobody bats an eye.

Ask about diversity, and everybody loses their minds.
I'm more interested in why you brought up diversity. Do you see diversity as the opposite of patriotism?
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Originally Posted by TragicMonkey View Post
I'm more interested in why you brought up diversity. Do you see diversity as the opposite of patriotism?
Great question! Especially when increasing diversity in the corporate world is seen as a net benefit, it improves creativity and the ability to understand more markets, and avoid groupthink. I would think a more diverse nation is a stronger nation.

A "mongrel nation" being a weaker nation was proven wrong in WW II
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Great question! Especially when increasing diversity in the corporate world is seen as a net benefit, it improves creativity and the ability to understand more markets, and avoid groupthink. I would think a more diverse nation is a stronger nation.

A "mongrel nation" being a weaker nation was proven wrong in WW II
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Originally Posted by theprestige View Post
Say patriotism is a repressed sexual fetish, and nobody bats an eye.

Ask about diversity, and everybody loses their minds.
I missed that. I read the questions, didn't see anybody "losing their mind."
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Old 29th July 2018, 11:21 AM   #293
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I think airing the Pledge of Allegiance should be required only in high school, perhaps 8th grade. Kids before that age typically don't know what pledging allegiance to their country entails nor do they care.
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Old 29th July 2018, 12:15 PM   #294
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Originally Posted by TheGoldcountry View Post
I missed that. I read the questions, didn't see anybody "losing their mind."
I saw two good answers and a good joke. I guess that wasn't the expected response.
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Old 29th July 2018, 12:24 PM   #295
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I think airing the Pledge of Allegiance should be required only in high school, perhaps 8th grade. Kids before that age typically don't know what pledging allegiance to their country entails nor do they care.
I don't think the pledge should be required at all. At least not since the GOP changed the wording.
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I think airing the Pledge of Allegiance should be required only in high school, perhaps 8th grade. Kids before that age typically don't know what pledging allegiance to their country entails nor do they care.
I don't think it should be required at all...and the Supreme Court agreed with this in 1943. Why the need to have kids stand and pledge allegiance? Does it make them any more loyal? It's forced "patriotism". It reminds me of when I was very young and my public school required us to have a morning prayer. Being raised in a non-religious household, I found it very uncomfortable and I felt singled out. My older sister was actually told in class by a classmate that she was "going to Hell" when she didn't participate. I also felt forced to pledge to a "nation under God" which I did not believe in. Many children in our public schools are not US citizens. Many are children of people on work visas, student visas, etc. This "uber-patriotism" that is so popular in the US is verging on nationalism in my opinion. I find it embarrassing.
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I notice in the comments on articles on the anthem protests that many people say the athletes should be deported.


Deported to where? Anyone got an idea what their deportation idea is all about?
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I don't think the pledge should be required at all. At least not since the GOP changed the wording.
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I don't think it should be required at all...and the Supreme Court agreed with this in 1943. Why the need to have kids stand and pledge allegiance? Does it make them any more loyal? It's forced "patriotism". It reminds me of when I was very young and my public school required us to have a morning prayer. Being raised in a non-religious household, I found it very uncomfortable and I felt singled out. My older sister was actually told in class by a classmate that she was "going to Hell" when she didn't participate. I also felt forced to pledge to a "nation under God" which I did not believe in. Many children in our public schools are not US citizens. Many are children of people on work visas, student visas, etc. This "uber-patriotism" that is so popular in the US is verging on nationalism in my opinion. I find it embarrassing.
Perhaps I should rephrase, or at least clarify that the pledge be recited only in high school. With a choice to stand or not, like we had. I don't think that changes your reply though.
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Sort of related, we leave near a state park with a campground. You go by the campground the laat weekend of July (or at any time) and you see a bunch of campers predominately displaying US flags.

Is there a purpose to that other than virtue signalling?

Something more related: seeing a tweet going around about how football players do a whole bunch of breast cancer support activities and no one complains, but try to protest racial inequality, then it's all "just play football and stop with the social statements"
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I think airing the Pledge of Allegiance should be required only in high school, perhaps 8th grade. Kids before that age typically don't know what pledging allegiance to their country entails nor do they care.
For the last ten years, my first lesson to an incoming class of kids (5th graders) is to explain what "indivisible" mean. Invariably, they think it means "invisible". I had one kid one year who actually knew.
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I notice in the comments on articles on the anthem protests that many people say the athletes should be deported.


Deported to where? Anyone got an idea what their deportation idea is all about?

Liberia?
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I notice in the comments on articles on the anthem protests that many people say the athletes should be deported.


Deported to where? Anyone got an idea what their deportation idea is all about?
There is a massive ignorance out there about issues of how we are coming or going from other countries. To the point where people seem to believe that we can just pick a country and airdrop anyone there.
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Perhaps I should rephrase, or at least clarify that the pledge be recited only in high school. With a choice to stand or not, like we had. I don't think that changes your reply though.
You're right it doesn't. The recitation of the pledge by schoolchildren at all is an infringement on some basic rights. I consider myself to be quite patriotic and I think this. The pledge is a 20th century invention that mandates a bizarre form of patriotism. And I am particularly offended by the words 'under god' which were added in the 50s.
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Perhaps I should rephrase, or at least clarify that the pledge be recited only in high school. With a choice to stand or not, like we had. I don't think that changes your reply though.
No, it doesn't. I think the whole thing is silly.

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You're right it doesn't. The recitation of the pledge by schoolchildren at all is an infringement on some basic rights. I consider myself to be quite patriotic and I think this. The pledge is a 20th century invention that mandates a bizarre form of patriotism. And I am particularly offended by the words 'under god' which were added in the 50s.
That.
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You're right it doesn't. The recitation of the pledge by schoolchildren at all is an infringement on some basic rights. I consider myself to be quite patriotic and I think this. The pledge is a 20th century invention that mandates a bizarre form of patriotism. And I am particularly offended by the words 'under god' which were added in the 50s.
The flag part bothers me more than the God part ...

I worked at a school that had a lot of kids formerly home-schooled in religious families. The parents liked it partly because it was smaller and had a good reputation. They might not have realized the owner was old-school Soviet atheist, and her own 2nd grader was excused from taking the pledge. Any kid could opt out; I don't know how many did. I think teachers etc. just left it up to the kid.
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There was a baseball quote from I forget who - the anthem was playing and a ballplayer said, "I always have a bad day when they play this song."

Also, the hand-over-the-heart tradition came about because previously, listeners had been using a Nazi salute. That got awkward around 1936.

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“At a signal from the Principal,” Bellamy wrote, “the pupils, in ordered ranks, hands to the side, face the Flag. Another signal is given; every pupil gives the flag the military salute—right hand lifted, palm downward, to a line with the forehead and close to it. Standing thus, all repeat together, slowly, ‘I pledge allegiance to my Flag…’” (The words of the Pledge itself have a long and contentious history of their own, as Amy Crawford wrote for Smithsonian magazine last year.)
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Originally Posted by theprestige View Post
Say patriotism is a repressed sexual fetish, and nobody bats an eye.
Who? Which eye? By "bat," did you mean "wink suggestively?"
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Football is back baby! Well preseason anyways. And so that means we have more issues regarding the protests.


And...first up we have the Miami police union boycotting the Miami Dolphins when three members of the team take a knee during their first preseason game. The union described the protest by three players as "disgusting" and a "slap in the face" because apparently they either think that all their members are guilty of police brutality or somehow remain ignorant of what the protest is about.



https://deadspin.com/miami-police-un...aye-1828287248


I never knew big bad police officers were so easily triggered.
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Football is back baby! Well preseason anyways. And so that means we have more issues regarding the protests.


And...first up we have the Miami police union boycotting the Miami Dolphins when three members of the team take a knee during their first preseason game. The union described the protest by three players as "disgusting" and a "slap in the face" because apparently they either think that all their members are guilty of police brutality or somehow remain ignorant of what the protest is about.



https://deadspin.com/miami-police-un...aye-1828287248


I never knew big bad police officers were so easily triggered.

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The Broward County Police Benevolent Association—the union of officers in one of the three counties that make up the greater Miami area—is calling on its members to boycott Miami Dolphins games and return discounted tickets because the Dolphins have not successfully forced their players to stand during pregame national anthem ceremonies.

I eagerly await the follow-up headline;
"Broward County Police Officers Arrested for Scalping Discounted Dolphins Tickets"
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I never knew big bad police officers were so easily triggered.
When I hear the expression 'poor widdle snowflake,' I always picture a middle aged white guy.
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When I hear the expression 'poor widdle snowflake,' I always picture a middle aged white guy.
I do the same thing. I always picture a guy that revels in not caring about racial slurs but freaks out when someone disrespects something he does care about.
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Showing those n-words who's boss, mostly.
Way back in post #4.....
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