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Old 30th March 2019, 10:27 AM   #161
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Yeah, it's way too small. It might have been a good plan twenty-five years ago, but things have progressed too far in the meantime. It's just not aggressive enough.

Of course, some would say that they perfect should not be the enemy of the good, every little bit helps, blah, blah, blah. In practice however, people tend to look at band-aid solutions like this as a solution in and of itself, and use them as an excuse not to make the more radical changes that are actually needed.
One modification and it would be plenty large enough.

Instead of paying the dividend to everyone equally whether they are a source or a sink, a dividend paid to verified long term soil carbon sequestration would be enough to push it over the top.

Right now guys like this are easily sequestering plenty of carbon. They have been yelling it from the rooftops. But the government expects them to do it for free.

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Old 30th March 2019, 01:54 PM   #162
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No. I'm not going to do that. I'm going to keep replying to your posts with no expectation from you to have an opinion on my statements.
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Old 30th March 2019, 01:56 PM   #163
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Originally Posted by JoeMorgue View Post
*Slight hijack. Has Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez ever objected to the "AOC" moniker? It's almost universally how she is referred to, both by detractors and supporters.
I doubt she has - it is her chosen Twitter handle:

https://twitter.com/AOC
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Old 30th March 2019, 08:00 PM   #164
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Originally Posted by Matthew Best View Post
I doubt she has - it is her chosen Twitter handle:

https://twitter.com/AOC
Correct. Why on earth would she object? Branding is just as important in politics as any form of marketing. Both supporters and detractors used "LBJ" and "JFK". But for politicians, particularly neophyte politicians, name recognition is a yuge thing. Totally unsupported by research, I'd say AOC is probably in the top ten readily identifiable names on the current political landscape. If not top ten, then definitely top twenty.
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Old 30th March 2019, 08:40 PM   #165
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Originally Posted by Foolmewunz View Post
Correct. Why on earth would she object? Branding is just as important in politics as any form of marketing. Both supporters and detractors used "LBJ" and "JFK". But for politicians, particularly neophyte politicians, name recognition is a yuge thing. Totally unsupported by research, I'd say AOC is probably in the top ten readily identifiable names on the current political landscape. If not top ten, then definitely top twenty.
I've heard that she's the second most recognizable politician after President Trump, at least for U.S. residents. (I kinda doubt that)

Fox News is spending more and more time attacking her since she started pushing her "Green New Deal".
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Old 31st March 2019, 06:46 AM   #166
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Originally Posted by Venom View Post
I've heard that she's the second most recognizable politician after President Trump, at least for U.S. residents. (I kinda doubt that)

Fox News is spending more and more time attacking her since she started pushing her "Green New Deal".
I thought the claim was about the politician who got "second most talked about" status, rather than the second most recognizable? WaPo apparently disagrees with that claim, as it is.
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Old 31st March 2019, 09:20 AM   #167
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Originally Posted by Aridas View Post
I thought the claim was about the politician who got "second most talked about" status, rather than the second most recognizable? WaPo apparently disagrees with that claim, as it is.
Hilited:What claim are you talking about? We're addressing a slight derail over the past 12 hours today and it's clearly about recognition. It's right there in the several posts above yours. "Most talked about" changes from day to day and week to week. Mueller is probably #2 at present but Jussie took it over for a while.

But we're talking about politicians. And it's all subjective, anyway.
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Old 31st March 2019, 04:07 PM   #168
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Originally Posted by Foolmewunz View Post
Hilited:What claim are you talking about? We're addressing a slight derail over the past 12 hours today and it's clearly about recognition. It's right there in the several posts above yours. "Most talked about" changes from day to day and week to week. Mueller is probably #2 at present but Jussie took it over for a while.

But we're talking about politicians. And it's all subjective, anyway.
I quite suspect that Venom was misremembering a related claim. In this case, a claim from Time magazine.

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This is the daily reality for America’s newest human Rorschach test. Wonder Woman of the left, Wicked Witch of the right, Ocasio-Cortez has become the second most talked-about politician in America, after the President of the United States.
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Old 26th April 2019, 01:50 PM   #169
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The hubbub about this has died down, but here's an example of what is happening:

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The Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee's vendor policy is already putting the squeeze on one of the most prominent incumbent challengers: Marie Newman, who is taking a second run at moderate Rep. Dan Lipinski in IL-03.

NEWMAN VS. DCCC — The DCCC's announcement that it would not do business with consultants or vendors who work for candidates challenging sitting members is already reverberating through one of the most closely watched primaries of 2020, still 11 months away. Newman told Campaign Pro’s Laura Barrón-López that a consultant dropped her campaign as recently as Wednesday due to DCCC chair Cheri Bustos' (Ill.) new enforcement of what was considered a long-unwritten rule.

“I've had four consultants leave the campaign,” Newman said. “We've now had two mail firms say that they couldn't work with us because of the DCCC issue, and then a [communications] group, a compliance group and several pollsters.” Consultants who planned to work with Newman said that the DCCC delivered the warning in the nicest terms possible — but that it was a very clear threat to their ability to do business with the DCCC.
Lipinski's seat seems safe (D); Hillary won the district by 15 percentage points in 2016, and Lipinski's done plenty to rile the Democratic base: he's pro-life, opposed gay marriage and declined to endorse Obama for reelection in 2016.
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Old 26th April 2019, 02:11 PM   #170
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Doubling down on alienating their base.
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Originally Posted by Brainster View Post
The hubbub about this has died down, but here's an example of what is happening:



Lipinski's seat seems safe (D); Hillary won the district by 15 percentage points in 2016, and Lipinski's done plenty to rile the Democratic base: he's pro-life, opposed gay marriage and declined to endorse Obama for reelection in 2016.
It's a safe Dem seat. Lipinski is far from safe, though.

There's a lot going on behind the scenes on the DCCC intransigence. Lipinski is going to negate the DCCC ruling's effect on this race, though, because they will give so much free coverage to Newman that she'll have advertising agencies lining up to help her out... even agencies that haven't yet put a toe into political campaigning.

Lipinski is the only Illinois Dem who voted against ACA. He's a carpetbagger, airlifted into an open seat by his daddy with the blessing of the Daley cohorts downtown.

He's the perfect poster boy to get this DCCC policy changed. The Bernie and AOC factions have chosen well if this is the cross they wish to die on. The DCCC should commit to holding Democratic seats FOR THE PARTY, not for the incumbent. I predict Newman will mobilize enough support that she'll win the primary. Lipinski, like his dad, is part of the old guard blue dog faction and should change parties.
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Doubling down on alienating their base.
I have a friend who's involved in ward politics in lower Manhattan. She says this whole DCCC thing was a miscalculation. There's been an unwritten policy on this for years. Bringing it out in the open was a money-raising ploy for the DCCC. (They get a whole lot of their funding during and in the aftermath of congressional elections every two years. They wanted the current batch of winners to remember how wonderful they are and help raise funds via the DCCC channel.)

In short, the DCCC doesn't give a rat's ass about the incumbents. The DCCC cares about enriching the DCCC so they maintain their sway. The formalization of this existing policy was a fund-raising letter to the rookies on the hill. "Now that you're part of the in group, you need to support us because we'll support you since you won. No hard feelings and all that."
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