ISF Logo   IS Forum
Forum Index Register Members List Events Mark Forums Read Help

Go Back   International Skeptics Forum » General Topics » USA Politics
 


Welcome to the International Skeptics Forum, where we discuss skepticism, critical thinking, the paranormal and science in a friendly but lively way. You are currently viewing the forum as a guest, which means you are missing out on discussing matters that are of interest to you. Please consider registering so you can gain full use of the forum features and interact with other Members. Registration is simple, fast and free! Click here to register today.
Tags Ivanka Trump

Reply
Old 26th March 2019, 06:57 PM   #161
The Atheist
The Grammar Tyrant
 
The Atheist's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 22,261
Good spot - I didn't notice. Obviously should be stepmother.

Doesn't seem evil enough to be Ivanka stepmother.
__________________
The point of equilibrium has passed; satire and current events are now indistinguishable.
The Atheist is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 26th March 2019, 09:51 PM   #162
Skeptic Ginger
Nasty Woman
 
Skeptic Ginger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 73,331
Originally Posted by Silly Green Monkey View Post
Did that article refer to Melania as Ivanka's mother in law? That would make Melania Jared's mother, not Ivanka's.
Never mind, it was the stupid author, not Ivanka herself.
__________________
Restore checks and balances no matter your party affiliation.

Last edited by Skeptic Ginger; 26th March 2019 at 09:57 PM.
Skeptic Ginger is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 12th April 2019, 08:13 PM   #163
The Atheist
The Grammar Tyrant
 
The Atheist's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 22,261
Quote:
If she were to run for president herself, however, her father thinks she would likely win.

I think shed be very, very hard to beat, Mr Trump told The Atlantic.
2024 should work out nicely.

Tremendous woman who's done tremendous work and can count past five. There aren't many people good enough to take on either US Ambassador to the UN or President of the World Bank, but my girl is.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a8867636.html
__________________
The point of equilibrium has passed; satire and current events are now indistinguishable.
The Atheist is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 12th April 2019, 10:45 PM   #164
Foolmewunz
Grammar Resistance Leader
TLA Dictator
 
Foolmewunz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Pattaya, Thailand
Posts: 40,344
Originally Posted by The Atheist View Post
2024 should work out nicely.

Tremendous woman who's done tremendous work and can count past five. There aren't many people good enough to take on either US Ambassador to the UN or President of the World Bank, but my girl is.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a8867636.html
He also at one time said she'd be a great Supreme Court Justice. He's just so smitten with her! It's probably the millions he invested in plastic surgery and orthodontics. He thinks of her as Trump Property.

He also admires her "calmness". That's another way of saying "she's a slow as Donnie Jr. and Eric, but she looks sedated when she's blinking at the difficult questions".
__________________
Ha! Foolmewunz has just been added to the list of people who aren't complete idiots. Hokulele

It's not that liberals have become less tolerant. It's that conservatives have become more intolerable.
Foolmewunz is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 12th April 2019, 11:00 PM   #165
The Atheist
The Grammar Tyrant
 
The Atheist's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 22,261
Originally Posted by Foolmewunz View Post
He also at one time said she'd be a great Supreme Court Justice.
Really? Wow, that takes the cake.
__________________
The point of equilibrium has passed; satire and current events are now indistinguishable.
The Atheist is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 13th April 2019, 05:41 AM   #166
Craig4
Penultimate Amazing
 
Craig4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Alexandria, VA Home to the Deep State.
Posts: 17,945
Originally Posted by The Atheist View Post
Really? Wow, that takes the cake.
He knows the stupid cow would have to go to law school right?
Craig4 is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 13th April 2019, 06:57 AM   #167
TragicMonkey
Poisoned Waffles
 
TragicMonkey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Monkey
Posts: 48,710
If life were a Black Mirror episode, Trump would be planning to transplant his brain into Ivanka's body.
__________________
You added nothing to that conversation, Barbara.
TragicMonkey is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 13th April 2019, 08:45 AM   #168
Trebuchet
Penultimate Amazing
 
Trebuchet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: The Great Northwet
Posts: 21,040
Originally Posted by Craig4 View Post
He knows the stupid cow would have to go to law school right?
I'm pretty sure that actually being a lawyer is not a constitutional requirement.
__________________
Cum catapultae proscribeantur tum soli proscripti catapultas habeant.
Trebuchet is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 13th April 2019, 09:01 AM   #169
Squeegee Beckenheim
Penultimate Amazing
 
Squeegee Beckenheim's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 24,129
Originally Posted by TragicMonkey View Post
If life were a Black Mirror episode, Trump would be planning to transplant his brain into Ivanka's body.
As opposed to real life, where he's trying to put some other part of his body in her body?
__________________
I don't trust atoms. They make up everything.

Last edited by Squeegee Beckenheim; 13th April 2019 at 09:21 AM.
Squeegee Beckenheim is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 13th April 2019, 09:20 AM   #170
wasapi
Philosopher
 
wasapi's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 6,721
Originally Posted by TragicMonkey View Post
If life were a Black Mirror episode, Trump would be planning to transplant his brain into Ivanka's body.
As I recall, he told Howard Stern that he would also enjoy transplanting another body part into his "girl".

It still creeps me out.
__________________
Julia
wasapi is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 13th April 2019, 09:38 AM   #171
The Great Zaganza
Maledictorian
 
The Great Zaganza's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 7,931
Red face

Originally Posted by wasapi View Post
As I recall, he told Howard Stern that he would also enjoy transplanting another body part into his "girl".

It still creeps me out.
You don't get it -

It was a compliment!
__________________
Opinion is divided on the subject. All the others say it is; I say it isnt.
The Great Zaganza is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 13th April 2019, 12:23 PM   #172
Stacyhs
Philosopher
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Posts: 7,175
Originally Posted by Foolmewunz View Post
He also at one time said she'd be a great Supreme Court Justice. He's just so smitten with her! It's probably the millions he invested in plastic surgery and orthodontics. He thinks of her as Trump Property.

He also admires her "calmness". That's another way of saying "she's a slow as Donnie Jr. and Eric, but she looks sedated when she's blinking at the difficult questions".
If the word 'great' didn't exist, Trump would lose half his vocabulary.
Stacyhs is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 13th April 2019, 08:31 PM   #173
Foolmewunz
Grammar Resistance Leader
TLA Dictator
 
Foolmewunz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Pattaya, Thailand
Posts: 40,344
Originally Posted by Foolmewunz View Post
He also at one time said she'd be a great Supreme Court Justice. He's just so smitten with her! It's probably the millions he invested in plastic surgery and orthodontics. He thinks of her as Trump Property.

He also admires her "calmness". That's another way of saying "she's a slow as Donnie Jr. and Eric, but she looks sedated when she's blinking at the difficult questions".
Originally Posted by The Atheist View Post
Really? Wow, that takes the cake.
To be fair, it may have been in one of his stump speeches at a rally, but I sorta recall it being early on, around the time of the RNC. But I'm old and forgetful and can't find any quotes to that effect.
__________________
Ha! Foolmewunz has just been added to the list of people who aren't complete idiots. Hokulele

It's not that liberals have become less tolerant. It's that conservatives have become more intolerable.
Foolmewunz is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 13th April 2019, 09:58 PM   #174
Minoosh
Philosopher
 
Minoosh's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 8,992
Originally Posted by Foolmewunz View Post
He also at one time said she'd be a great Supreme Court Justice. He's just so smitten with her! It's probably the millions he invested in plastic surgery and orthodontics. He thinks of her as Trump Property.
I don't think she's had all that much work. New knockers and something around the nose. Great teeth. Maybe some fillers here and there. Whoever did it, they're pretty damn good. Before and after, she looks like herself.

I would agree that money doesn't hurt except it can, actually. Like the man who wants to become a living Ken doll or the lady who wants to look like a lion. But it doesn't hurt to have, or be, an expert stylist to puts looks together with hair, eyebrows, wardrobe, makeup, etc.
Minoosh is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 18th April 2019, 12:24 AM   #175
Planigale
Illuminator
 
Planigale's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 3,019
Clearly Ivanka is smarter than her father.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-47968745
Trump offered her the position of president of the world bank 'because she is good with numbers' , Ivanka at least had the good sense to refuse. Clearly Trump does not understand what the world bank really does.

Chelsea Clinton at least seems to have some qualifications for the post.
Planigale is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 18th April 2019, 12:27 AM   #176
Stacyhs
Philosopher
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Posts: 7,175
Originally Posted by Planigale View Post
Clearly Ivanka is smarter than her father.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-47968745
Trump offered her the position of president of the world bank 'because she is good with numbers' , Ivanka at least had the good sense to refuse. Clearly Trump does not understand what the world bank really does.

Chelsea Clinton at least seems to have some qualifications for the post.
Nepotism, anyone?
Stacyhs is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 18th April 2019, 04:29 AM   #177
Darat
Lackey
Administrator
 
Darat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: South East, UK
Posts: 85,675
Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza View Post
You don't get it -

It was a compliment!
Was is the operative word. No way would Trump still be interested, she's way too old for him...
__________________
I wish I knew how to quit you
Darat is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 18th April 2019, 04:33 PM   #178
The Atheist
The Grammar Tyrant
 
The Atheist's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 22,261
Originally Posted by Darat View Post
Was is the operative word. No way would Trump still be interested, she's way too old for him...
You're getting mixed up - Biden is the one who likes the very young chicks.

To give the devil his due, Trump has only molested women over the age of consent, and since his cherished Ivanka is 10 years younger than Melania and he was definitely doing Melania 13 years ago, I'd say age isn't an issue.
__________________
The point of equilibrium has passed; satire and current events are now indistinguishable.
The Atheist is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 19th April 2019, 04:20 AM   #179
dann
Philosopher
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 7,562
But ...
__________________
/dann
"Stupidity renders itself invisible by assuming very large proportions. Completely unreasonable claims are irrefutable. Ni-en-leh pointed out that a philosopher might get into trouble by claiming that two times two makes five, but he does not risk much by claiming that two times two makes shoe polish." B. Brecht
"The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is required for their real happiness. The demand to give up the illusion about its condition is the demand to give up a condition which needs illusions." K. Marx
dann is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 19th April 2019, 04:28 AM   #180
Squeegee Beckenheim
Penultimate Amazing
 
Squeegee Beckenheim's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 24,129
There was also a rape allegation from someone who claimed to be 14 at the time.
__________________
I don't trust atoms. They make up everything.
Squeegee Beckenheim is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 19th April 2019, 06:15 PM   #181
The Atheist
The Grammar Tyrant
 
The Atheist's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 22,261
Originally Posted by dann View Post
Did he have sex with any of them? Did he try to?

Originally Posted by Squeegee Beckenheim View Post
There was also a rape allegation from someone who claimed to be 14 at the time.
"Allegation" "Claimed"

Very damning.
__________________
The point of equilibrium has passed; satire and current events are now indistinguishable.
The Atheist is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 19th April 2019, 07:45 PM   #182
Roger Ramjets
Illuminator
 
Roger Ramjets's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 3,985
Originally Posted by The Atheist View Post
"Allegation" "Claimed"

Very damning.
That's what they said about Rolf Harris, Harvey Weinstein, Bill Cosby... The days of 'claimed allegations' being dismissed out of hand are over.
__________________
We don't want good, sound arguments. We want arguments that sound good.
Roger Ramjets is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 19th April 2019, 08:51 PM   #183
Foolmewunz
Grammar Resistance Leader
TLA Dictator
 
Foolmewunz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Pattaya, Thailand
Posts: 40,344
Originally Posted by The Atheist View Post
Did he have sex with any of them? Did he try to?



"Allegation" "Claimed"

Very damning.
Did he have sex with them or try to? Is that your standard for the repetition of the Creepy Uncle Joe meme? 'Cuz no one, to my knowledge, has even hinted that Biden was making sexual advances. The complaint is that he's just plain out of touch (or "out of touchy-feely") with standard public behavior and how it's shifted in the last fifty years.

You derailed your own thread with the Biden Meme and are now applying a double standard? Something's amiss, here.
__________________
Ha! Foolmewunz has just been added to the list of people who aren't complete idiots. Hokulele

It's not that liberals have become less tolerant. It's that conservatives have become more intolerable.
Foolmewunz is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 19th April 2019, 09:12 PM   #184
The Atheist
The Grammar Tyrant
 
The Atheist's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 22,261
Originally Posted by Roger Ramjets View Post
That's what they said about Rolf Harris, Harvey Weinstein, Bill Cosby... The days of 'claimed allegations' being dismissed out of hand are over.
I think you'll find the way it works is this:

Allegation -> police charge -> court hearing -> conviction -> jail.

The trail with Trump stops at the first of those.

Neil de Grasse Tyson & Brett Kavanaugh had allegations against them, but since neither was charged, far less found guilty, it doesn't seem to have done them any harm.

Originally Posted by Foolmewunz View Post
Did he have sex with them or try to? Is that your standard for the repetition of the Creepy Uncle Joe meme? 'Cuz no one, to my knowledge, has even hinted that Biden was making sexual advances. The complaint is that he's just plain out of touch (or "out of touchy-feely") with standard public behavior and how it's shifted in the last fifty years.

You derailed your own thread with the Biden Meme and are now applying a double standard? Something's amiss, here.
No, it was me being wrongly hyperbolic: mea culpa. Fair point to you for picking it up.

A better way of putting it would have been "Did he touch any of them inappropriately?"

I'm pretty sure that claim isn't made for the dressing room incident, so there isn't any possible criminal behaviour there, unlike Creepy Joe. Rubbing your hands over a female's breast area, whether developed or not, is sexual assault.

I would be completely unsurprised if one of the Trump PACs will has at least one woman waiting for Biden to win the nomination - assuming that happens - before unleashing actual charges against him.
__________________
The point of equilibrium has passed; satire and current events are now indistinguishable.
The Atheist is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 20th April 2019, 01:34 AM   #185
Squeegee Beckenheim
Penultimate Amazing
 
Squeegee Beckenheim's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 24,129
Originally Posted by The Atheist View Post
"Allegation" "Claimed"

Very damning.
Whether or not you consider it "damning", it's an indication that your statement that "Trump has only molested women over the age of consent" may be incorrect.

He's also been reported as saying that he was more sexually attracted to Ivanka than his wife, when Ivanka was 13. And there was a case that it's hard to find again because the relevant search terms are pulling up articles about Epstein's relationship with Trump, where Trump publicly said about a group of 8 year old girls that if they were a little older he'd be their boyfriend which, at the very least, indicates that he thinks of young girls in that manner.

Nothing that's stuck, certainly, but there should be enough there to want to add a "that we know of for sure" to the end of your statement.
__________________
I don't trust atoms. They make up everything.
Squeegee Beckenheim is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 20th April 2019, 09:42 AM   #186
dann
Philosopher
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 7,562
You don't hear this one much nowadays:

YouTube Video This video is not hosted by the ISF. The ISF can not be held responsible for the suitability or legality of this material. By clicking the link below you agree to view content from an external website.
I AGREE
__________________
/dann
"Stupidity renders itself invisible by assuming very large proportions. Completely unreasonable claims are irrefutable. Ni-en-leh pointed out that a philosopher might get into trouble by claiming that two times two makes five, but he does not risk much by claiming that two times two makes shoe polish." B. Brecht
"The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is required for their real happiness. The demand to give up the illusion about its condition is the demand to give up a condition which needs illusions." K. Marx
dann is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 20th April 2019, 02:48 PM   #187
The Atheist
The Grammar Tyrant
 
The Atheist's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 22,261
Originally Posted by Squeegee Beckenheim View Post
Nothing that's stuck, certainly, but there should be enough there to want to add a "that we know of for sure" to the end of your statement.
I don't see any need to do that. Like I said, the burden of proof is on the prosecution.

Mate, I'd love to see the slimy skunk behind bars for raping underage girls, and you could double how happy I'd be if they managed to put that piece of ****, Prince Andrew, in the cell next door.

But it's not going to happen.
__________________
The point of equilibrium has passed; satire and current events are now indistinguishable.
The Atheist is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 22nd April 2019, 04:19 PM   #188
Craig4
Penultimate Amazing
 
Craig4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Alexandria, VA Home to the Deep State.
Posts: 17,945
Originally Posted by Trebuchet View Post
I'm pretty sure that actually being a lawyer is not a constitutional requirement.
True, but law school is the traditional start to a career that ends up at the top of the legal profession. I can think of a few members of the Senate who might choose to uphold that tradition.
Craig4 is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 22nd April 2019, 04:24 PM   #189
Craig4
Penultimate Amazing
 
Craig4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Alexandria, VA Home to the Deep State.
Posts: 17,945
Originally Posted by The Atheist View Post
Did he have sex with any of them? Did he try to?



"Allegation" "Claimed"

Very damning.
You put the allegations with the "Access Hollywood" video and the other creepy things he's done with women, there's a segment of the population you can spin it into truth for. It's a short step in the minds of most people from walking in on naked girls at Teen USA to underage sex. Stay on message well enough and it becomes holy writ.
Craig4 is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 23rd April 2019, 01:44 AM   #190
Squeegee Beckenheim
Penultimate Amazing
 
Squeegee Beckenheim's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 24,129
Originally Posted by The Atheist View Post
I don't see any need to do that. Like I said, the burden of proof is on the prosecution.
Nobody is being prosecuted for anything.

Still, you're free to commit yourself to absolute statements of certitude in the face of doubt, if you like. Speaking personally, if there are multiple, credible, independent reports of someone indulging in certain kinds of behaviour then I won't absolutely rule that behaviour out as a possibility, and I will frame my statements accordingly.
__________________
I don't trust atoms. They make up everything.
Squeegee Beckenheim is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 23rd April 2019, 04:23 PM   #191
The Atheist
The Grammar Tyrant
 
The Atheist's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 22,261
Originally Posted by Squeegee Beckenheim View Post
Speaking personally, if there are multiple, credible, independent reports of someone indulging in certain kinds of behaviour then I won't absolutely rule that behaviour out as a possibility, and I will frame my statements accordingly.
What multiple reports are you talking about?

In terms of Trump & underage women, there is nothing more than rumour, with one withdrawn allegation.

I'm not ruling it out; I just don't see any evidence worth considering.
__________________
The point of equilibrium has passed; satire and current events are now indistinguishable.
The Atheist is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 23rd April 2019, 06:10 PM   #192
Craig4
Penultimate Amazing
 
Craig4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Alexandria, VA Home to the Deep State.
Posts: 17,945
Originally Posted by Squeegee Beckenheim View Post
Nobody is being prosecuted for anything.

Still, you're free to commit yourself to absolute statements of certitude in the face of doubt, if you like. Speaking personally, if there are multiple, credible, independent reports of someone indulging in certain kinds of behaviour then I won't absolutely rule that behaviour out as a possibility, and I will frame my statements accordingly.
Why would we want a resolution of the question? It's much better as an open question running through the election. It doesn't have to be true; it just has to siphon off independent voters in three states. Trump can deal with the allegations, true or not once he's out of office. The ends justify the means.
Craig4 is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 23rd April 2019, 06:16 PM   #193
Craig4
Penultimate Amazing
 
Craig4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Alexandria, VA Home to the Deep State.
Posts: 17,945
Originally Posted by The Atheist View Post
What multiple reports are you talking about?

In terms of Trump & underage women, there is nothing more than rumour, with one withdrawn allegation.

I'm not ruling it out; I just don't see any evidence worth considering.
Who cares as long as people keep considering it? What does it matter if any of it is true or not? Tie the allegation to the "Access Hollywood" tape, and the walking in on Miss Teen USA contestant in the dressing room and you're good. Actually proving it happened isn't the point. You convince 10,000 people spread across three states that it might have happened and you've only got 90,000 to go and you win the electoral college. Hype the incest charge with his daughters and maybe you've got 20,000 undecided voters. It's okay if it's not true. It just has to sway swing voters in three states.
Craig4 is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 24th April 2019, 12:22 AM   #194
Squeegee Beckenheim
Penultimate Amazing
 
Squeegee Beckenheim's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 24,129
Originally Posted by The Atheist View Post
What multiple reports are you talking about?

In terms of Trump & underage women, there is nothing more than rumour, with one withdrawn allegation.
There have been more reported incidents of Trump sexualising children posted in just the last few posts. That you'd dismiss Trump's own statements as "rumour" is mind-boggling.
__________________
I don't trust atoms. They make up everything.
Squeegee Beckenheim is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 24th April 2019, 12:23 AM   #195
Squeegee Beckenheim
Penultimate Amazing
 
Squeegee Beckenheim's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 24,129
Originally Posted by Craig4 View Post
Why would we want a resolution of the question?
Because truth matters.
__________________
I don't trust atoms. They make up everything.
Squeegee Beckenheim is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 24th April 2019, 12:57 AM   #196
The Atheist
The Grammar Tyrant
 
The Atheist's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 22,261
Originally Posted by Squeegee Beckenheim View Post
There have been more reported incidents of Trump sexualising children posted in just the last few posts. That you'd dismiss Trump's own statements as "rumour" is mind-boggling.
You're obviously getting a tad confused. Trump's own words relate to women, not children, and the "reported incidents" in the posts are nothing but rumour.

I've looked back through the last 20 posts (more than "the last few") and all I see is:

He's also been reported as saying that he was more sexually attracted to Ivanka than his wife, when Ivanka was 13.

...been reported... No actual evidence, of course. Rumour.

where Trump publicly said about a group of 8 year old girls that if they were a little older he'd be their boyfriend

Hardly sexual. Creepy Joe seems to talk about boyfriends to little girls a lot. I see that as the kind of thing any old bloke might say - he's telling little girls they're pretty, which is hardly damning by any metric.

Then we're left with walking in on teenagers getting changed. None molested - he walked into a dressing room. Creepy, sure, but no relation to sexual assault.

I love the way Trump's opponents fall straight into the Trump Derangement Syndrome trap. You'll have him as President until Queen I is ready to take over. 2024 looks good to me. I bet she has Jared as Veep.

What you need to do is concentrate on what he's actually done rather than what you wish you could hang him with.
__________________
The point of equilibrium has passed; satire and current events are now indistinguishable.
The Atheist is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 24th April 2019, 02:30 AM   #197
Squeegee Beckenheim
Penultimate Amazing
 
Squeegee Beckenheim's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 24,129
Originally Posted by The Atheist View Post
You're obviously getting a tad confused. Trump's own words relate to women, not children[...]
Except for when he bragged about walking into the changing rooms of teenage girls, and said that he'd like to be the "boyfriend" of a couple of 8 year old girls, and said that he found his 13 year-old daughter more sexually attractive than his wife.

Quote:
I love the way Trump's opponents fall straight into the Trump Derangement Syndrome trap. You'll have him as President until Queen I is ready to take over. 2024 looks good to me. I bet she has Jared as Veep.
Oh, you're one of those, are you? 'nough said.

Quote:
What you need to do is concentrate on what he's actually done rather than what you wish you could hang him with.
Straw man.
__________________
I don't trust atoms. They make up everything.
Squeegee Beckenheim is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 24th April 2019, 02:35 AM   #198
thaiboxerken
Penultimate Amazing
 
thaiboxerken's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Posts: 29,970
C'mon now. Just because Trump brags about barging in on naked teenagers doesn't mean he enjoys looking at naked teenagers......
__________________
All national institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power & profit - Thomas Paine
thaiboxerken is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 24th April 2019, 03:28 AM   #199
Craig4
Penultimate Amazing
 
Craig4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Alexandria, VA Home to the Deep State.
Posts: 17,945
Originally Posted by Squeegee Beckenheim View Post
Because truth matters.
I'm sorry, I thought we were in the politics section. Winning matters.
Craig4 is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Reply

International Skeptics Forum » General Topics » USA Politics

Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 01:28 PM.
Powered by vBulletin. Copyright ©2000 - 2019, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

This forum began as part of the James Randi Education Foundation (JREF). However, the forum now exists as
an independent entity with no affiliation with or endorsement by the JREF, including the section in reference to "JREF" topics.

Disclaimer: Messages posted in the Forum are solely the opinion of their authors.