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Old 19th March 2019, 08:43 AM   #161
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Originally Posted by Squeegee Beckenheim View Post
"what does this tell you?"
That a society whose members communicate what should be rich, complex, nuanced ideas and ideologies via cartoonish internet memes is well on its way to complete collapse.
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Old 19th March 2019, 08:48 AM   #162
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Originally Posted by carlitos View Post
That a society whose members communicate what should be rich, complex, nuanced ideas and ideologies via cartoonish internet memes is well on its way to complete collapse.
I agree totally. Wait I think I have a meme for that...

But in all serious, yes this. This X 1000.
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Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza View Post
no doubt he'll push the "Fiscal Conservative" narrative - after having inflated the debt like never before.
Toad.
Well sure remember fiscal conservative means reveling in Fox News's core audience dying in ditches. Privatizing medicare was something he was fantasizing about in college after all.
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Old 19th March 2019, 08:57 AM   #164
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Originally Posted by carlitos View Post
That a society whose members communicate what should be rich, complex, nuanced ideas and ideologies via cartoonish internet memes is well on its way to complete collapse.
Ok you put it better than I would have.
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Old 19th March 2019, 09:11 AM   #165
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Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza View Post
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no doubt he'll push the "Fiscal Conservative" narrative - after having inflated the debt like never before.
Hey, how could he have known that massively cutting government revenue would increase the deficit?

And its not like anyone was predicting that the deficit would increase as a result of the act. Well, except for the Congressional budget office. And the Joint Committee on taxation. And pretty much every economist out there. But apart from all those people, everyone thought the deficits would magically disappear!
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Old 19th March 2019, 09:13 AM   #166
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Originally Posted by Segnosaur View Post
Hey, how could he have known that massively cutting government revenue would increase the deficit?
Nobody knew economics could be so complicated!
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Old 19th March 2019, 10:43 AM   #167
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Originally Posted by Segnosaur View Post
Hey, how could he have known that massively cutting government revenue would increase the deficit?

And its not like anyone was predicting that the deficit would increase as a result of the act. Well, except for the Congressional budget office. And the Joint Committee on taxation. And pretty much every economist out there. But apart from all those people, everyone thought the deficits would magically disappear!
That is what you get by reading too much Ayn Rand.....
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Old 19th March 2019, 11:04 AM   #168
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Originally Posted by dudalb View Post
That is what you get by reading too much Ayn Rand.....
did you know that when you put Atlas Shrugged and the New Testament next to each other on the shelf, they fight to the death?
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Old 19th March 2019, 11:39 AM   #169
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Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza View Post
did you know that when you put Atlas Shrugged and the New Testament next to each other on the shelf, they fight to the death?
That's only because it's an alterboy's room.
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Old 19th March 2019, 11:51 AM   #170
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Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza View Post
did you know that when you put Atlas Shrugged and the New Testament next to each other on the shelf, they fight to the death?
Is that anything like hanging Campbell and McDonald tartans side-by-side in the same wardrobe?
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Old 19th March 2019, 12:57 PM   #171
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Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza View Post
did you know that when you put Atlas Shrugged and the New Testament next to each other on the shelf, they fight to the death?
And of course that weird hippy Jesus guy always looses. Remember true conservatice know that the ideal person the smartest person who ever lived ever met(Rand) was of course a serial killer of children. Totally selfish and thus superior to all others.
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Old 31st March 2019, 09:03 AM   #172
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They're at it again.

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Old 31st March 2019, 09:10 AM   #173
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Originally Posted by Stacko View Post
I'm afraid I'm missing something. What are you pointing out with that photo?
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Old 31st March 2019, 09:11 AM   #174
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Originally Posted by phiwum View Post
I'm afraid I'm missing something. What are you pointing out with that photo?
The chyron that is blatantly removing the mask.
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Old 31st March 2019, 09:15 AM   #175
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The chyron that is blatantly removing the mask.
Oh, ****, how did I miss "Mexican"? I kept looking at the scrolling headline, thinking that was somehow relevant.

ETA: I'm not sure it's so much removing the mask as just a symptom of remarkable incompetence and ignorance.

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Old 31st March 2019, 10:47 AM   #176
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Originally Posted by phiwum View Post
I'm afraid I'm missing something. What are you pointing out with that photo?
There are three Mexicos.

Or four I guess.
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Old 31st March 2019, 11:28 AM   #177
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Originally Posted by phiwum View Post
Oh, ****, how did I miss "Mexican"? I kept looking at the scrolling headline legs, thinking that was somehow relevant.

ETA: I'm not sure it's so much removing the mask as just a symptom of remarkable incompetence and ignorance.
Fixed that for you. Seriously, if Fox put their female personalities behind a desk, they'd lose at least a third of their audience overnight.
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Old 31st March 2019, 01:06 PM   #178
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It's all Mexico to Fox viewers.
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Old 31st March 2019, 01:57 PM   #179
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I'll guess the bulk of the alternative phrasings would have to include the word "American"... which would raise thoughts they just didn't want to deal with.

Or some graphics dp had a brain fart. That's a doozy though.
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They misspelled "Messican."
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Old 31st March 2019, 06:55 PM   #181
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They misspelled "Messican."
You never go full Kinsley Gaffe.
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Old 31st March 2019, 07:17 PM   #182
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Originally Posted by Minoosh View Post
It's all Mexico to Fox viewers.
Mexico is not so much a place as a concept: Everyone who is not them who speaks differently to them. Laughingly this could include Australians. Sadly this is true.
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Mexico is not so much a place as a concept: Everyone who is not them who speaks differently to them. Laughingly this could include Australians. Sadly this is true.

It reminds me of my elderly mother, to whom every Asian person is "Japanese", regardless of where they're actually from.
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Fake news, nobody ever learned anything from Hannity.
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Originally Posted by Norman Alexander View Post
Mexico is not so much a place as a concept: Everyone who is not them who speaks differently to them. Laughingly this could include Australians. Sadly this is true.
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It reminds me of my elderly mother, to whom every Asian person is "Japanese", regardless of where they're actually from.
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It's all Mexico to Fox viewers.
Here in Norway, every person with darker skin than us Norsemen is a "Muslim". Same concept.

Or for that matter, how every Asian person was "Chinese" a decade or two ago.
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Old 20th April 2019, 01:49 AM   #187
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And that's the thing I don't get about this narrative - how can the Republicans who push it not see how much of an own-goal it is?
They understand it perfectly well, but it's a feature, not a bug. Their cultists like to be the tough, strong bad guys, and whenever someone points it out they get to gloat and smirk because they've "triggered the libs".
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They understand it perfectly well, but it's a feature, not a bug. Their cultists like to be the tough, strong bad guys, and whenever someone points it out they get to gloat and smirk because they've "triggered the libs".
It's a manifestation of the phenomenon of being happy to live under a bridge in a cardboard box, with a couple of sparrows on a stick for dinner. So long as the brown folk beside them have but a single sparrow for their stick.
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Is the unbreakable wall of Faux News' blind support for Dear Leader beginning to show some cracks?

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/judg...struct-justice

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Old 26th April 2019, 12:48 AM   #190
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Looks to me that Fox is periodically taking soundings of how much backlash they get when they cease to support Trump at all costs.
The Bernie Townhall was one case, and there were others.
This is another.

Trump keeps on costing Fox advertisers, and they would love to get back to the mainstream if it doesn't cost them all their viewership.
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Is the unbreakable wall of Faux News' blind support for Dear Leader beginning to show some cracks?
I noticed there were a few times where they disputed the White House's statements about the Mueller report, and also some negative reporting on Barr's press conference.

It's worth bearing in mind that the pro-Trump policy comes from Murdoch, and Murdoch has long been reported as not actually liking Trump and badmouthing him behind closed doors. More in the "useful idiot" category. Perhaps he thinks that Trump's usefulness is coming to an end and is starting to soften the ground a little so that, come some future revelation (congressional testimony by Mueller or someone similar, perhaps) they can start doing a "we can no longer deny that Trump is corrupt" u-turn, as if it's only now that it's been possible to put the pieces together.
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I noticed there were a few times where they disputed the White House's statements about the Mueller report, and also some negative reporting on Barr's press conference.
Who exactly was the "they" you were referring to who was disputing the White House's statements?

I don't watch fox news myself, but from what I understand, they have always had a few people (such as Shep Smith) who are willing to challenge the Fox news Trump Love narrative. (The problem is, not only are those people few and far between, they tend not to be given priority time slots on the network. So while Hannity gets prime time to praise Trump and spread various anti-Democrat conspiracy theories, Smith gets a daytime timeslot (when ratings are lower, which happens when much of your audience is at work) to point out when Hannity's claims are nonsense.

On the other hand, there are rumors that Hannity may actually be considering leaving Fox News, because he thinks they aren't Trumpian enough...

https://hillreporter.com/hannity-to-...w-report-32917
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Host Sean Hannity has reportedly told friends that he plans to leave the network in 2021 due in part to the Murdochs’ lack of support for the president.... The relationship with Rupert Murdoch’s sons seems to be a tipping point for Hannity. He has also lost some significant allies in former network president’s Roger Ailes and Bill Shine...While not on the level of Laura Ingraham or Tucker Carlson, Hannity has lost some significant sponsors...But the main problems between Hannity and the network goes back to Lachlan and James Murdoch. James is reportedly looking to invest in some media outlets that lean more liberal than conservative.
You do have to wonder what exactly Hannity will do if he leaves the network. I can't see any non-racist main-stream network having an interest in him. (Megyn Kelly has illustrated that success on Fox News does not translate to success in real journalism.) He could follow Glenn Beck and Bill O'Reilly into the world of podcasts and conspiracy-theories, but his influence will be greatly reduced. Or he could jump into politics, but unless he finds a place to run that is far to the right, his polarizing nature will be a liability.
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Originally Posted by smartcooky View Post
Is the unbreakable wall of Faux News' blind support for Dear Leader beginning to show some cracks?

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/judg...struct-justice

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The president's job is to enforce federal law. If he had ordered its violation to save innocent life or preserve human freedom, he would have a moral defense. But ordering obstruction to save himself from the consequences of his own behavior is unlawful, defenseless and condemnable.
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Hannity leaving in 2021 sounds like he knows that Trump is done for, and he is hoping to get a post on Trump TV then.
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You do have to wonder what exactly Hannity will do if he leaves the network. I can't see any non-racist main-stream network having an interest in him. (Megyn Kelly has illustrated that success on Fox News does not translate to success in real journalism.) He could follow Glenn Beck and Bill O'Reilly into the world of podcasts and conspiracy-theories, but his influence will be greatly reduced. Or he could jump into politics, but unless he finds a place to run that is far to the right, his polarizing nature will be a liability.
As I understand it, getting fired from Fox was the best thing that ever happened to Beck, financially speaking. And Alex Jones does just fine without a network.
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You do have to wonder what exactly Hannity will do if he leaves the network. I can't see any non-racist main-stream network having an interest in him. (Megyn Kelly has illustrated that success on Fox News does not translate to success in real journalism.) He could follow Glenn Beck and Bill O'Reilly into the world of podcasts and conspiracy-theories, but his influence will be greatly reduced. Or he could jump into politics, but unless he finds a place to run that is far to the right, his polarizing nature will be a liability.
As I understand it, getting fired from Fox was the best thing that ever happened to Beck, financially speaking.
Really? I guess it shouldn't be too surprising... he supposedly started a media company after he left Fox. But, you figure the market for that sort of thing is going to get saturated.

And even if financially he may be successful, I suggested his influence may decrease as a result. Not as big an audience without Fox News.
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Again, he's got a niche that may become over-saturated.
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Hannity leaving in 2021 sounds like he knows that Trump is done for, and he is hoping to get a post on Trump TV then.
Either that or he's expecting a senior post in the second Trump administration - Secretary of State perhaps ?
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Either that or he's expecting a senior post in the second Trump administration - Secretary of State perhaps ?
Terrible move: Trump has way more respect for anyone on TV than he has for anyone in his presence.
Also, being on Fox is a much more reliable method to getting to talk to Trump than being a member of the White House staff.
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More evidence that Trump's relationship with Fox news is a bit.. incestuous.

From: https://www.politicususa.com/2019/04...ews-trump.html
Buried in the Mueller report is an instance of the White House appearing to have the ability to tell Fox News what to cut out of their interviews with Trump.
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More evidence that Trump's relationship with Fox news is a bit.. incestuous.

From: https://www.politicususa.com/2019/04...ews-trump.html
Buried in the Mueller report is an instance of the White House appearing to have the ability to tell Fox News what to cut out of their interviews with Trump.
Wish reporters would stop using the phrase "state run news". It is far from accurate or appropriate. What they really mean is "administration-controlled propaganda unit" or plain old "Trump megaphone". It is nothing to do with the state at all.
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