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Old 7th May 2019, 08:28 AM   #41
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Originally Posted by TragicMonkey View Post
You could lure him into a cardboard box with a cheeseburger, tape it shut, and mail it to Russia.
Throw in a couple of Russian hookers/porn stars, and the trap is sure to work.

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Old 7th May 2019, 09:07 AM   #42
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Originally Posted by TragicMonkey View Post
You could lure him into a cardboard box with a cheeseburger, tape it shut, and mail it to Russia.
Don't reward him.
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I think I should be given two extra years to compensate me for time lost (so that I can play cheat at even more golf at the taxpayers’ expense).

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I've said it before and I'll say it again: Trump is over 70 years old. Whatever he was going to become, he's already there. If he were going to become a totalitarian dictator, he would have gotten there at least 20 years ago. At this point, we have sufficient historical data to confidently predict what will happen when it's time for Trump to leave office: He'll claim he's winning, bluster past any arguments to the contrary, and carry on Trumpin' somewhere else.

For some people, being head of state is about their will to power. For Trump, I think it's mostly just about bragging rights. And as we have seen again and again, Donald Trump has no problem bragging about stuff even when he doesn't have the right. He brags even in the face of contradictory reality. He got to be POTUS, and he'll be able to brag about it whether he stays in office or not. I don't think he much wants to stay in office. He's having fun presidentin', and when the time comes he'll have just as much fun bragging about the presidentin' he did. He's not a Castro or a Maduro or a Putin, who has to stay in power by hook or by crook, in order to keep control and advance their agenda. Trump has no such agenda.
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Old 7th May 2019, 09:43 AM   #46
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Originally Posted by TragicMonkey View Post
Radical Muslim atheists are sneaking into the country to polygamously marry multiple women to indoctrinate them into supporting gay marriage and having lots of children so they'll grow up and vote for abortion. They're using socialism to evade taxes on their huge private fortunes.
Not to mention childless Europeans!
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Old 7th May 2019, 10:19 AM   #47
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Originally Posted by theprestige View Post
I've said it before and I'll say it again: Trump is over 70 years old. Whatever he was going to become, he's already there. If he were going to become a totalitarian dictator, he would have gotten there at least 20 years ago. At this point, we have sufficient historical data to confidently predict what will happen when it's time for Trump to leave office: He'll claim he's winning, bluster past any arguments to the contrary, and carry on Trumpin' somewhere else.

For some people, being head of state is about their will to power. For Trump, I think it's mostly just about bragging rights. And as we have seen again and again, Donald Trump has no problem bragging about stuff even when he doesn't have the right. He brags even in the face of contradictory reality. He got to be POTUS, and he'll be able to brag about it whether he stays in office or not. I don't think he much wants to stay in office. He's having fun presidentin', and when the time comes he'll have just as much fun bragging about the presidentin' he did. He's not a Castro or a Maduro or a Putin, who has to stay in power by hook or by crook, in order to keep control and advance their agenda. Trump has no such agenda.
This is quite obviously incorrect. When he was older than 70 he hadn't become president yet. Guess what...He THEN became president LATER...Not 20 years before.
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Old 7th May 2019, 10:20 AM   #48
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Originally Posted by Drewbot View Post
Obama wasn't going to leave either.

Paranoid extremists on both sides come up with this stuff no matter which party is in power.
My co-worker thought that Obama was the anti-christ, would not relinquish the presidency and campaign for a 3rd term. My prize for successfully predicting Obama would not seek a third term democratically or otherwise, was a bone-in ribeye. I pray I find somebody just as delusional to take up a similar proposition regarding Trump. Sure, it's possible that I'd lose, yet highly unlikely.

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I've said it before and I'll say it again: Trump is over 70 years old. Whatever he was going to become, he's already there. If he were going to become a totalitarian dictator, he would have gotten there at least 20 years ago. At this point, we have sufficient historical data to confidently predict what will happen when it's time for Trump to leave office: He'll claim he's winning, bluster past any arguments to the contrary, and carry on Trumpin' somewhere else.

For some people, being head of state is about their will to power. For Trump, I think it's mostly just about bragging rights. And as we have seen again and again, Donald Trump has no problem bragging about stuff even when he doesn't have the right. He brags even in the face of contradictory reality. He got to be POTUS, and he'll be able to brag about it whether he stays in office or not. I don't think he much wants to stay in office. He's having fun presidentin', and when the time comes he'll have just as much fun bragging about the presidentin' he did. He's not a Castro or a Maduro or a Putin, who has to stay in power by hook or by crook, in order to keep control and advance their agenda. Trump has no such agenda.
Pretty much agree. Trump would allege the election was rigged, create an investigative panel, & refuse to admit he lost fairly. Ultimately, he would yield his crown.
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This is quite obviously incorrect. When he was older than 70 he hadn't become president yet. Guess what...He THEN became president LATER...Not 20 years before.
He's in a different position, but he isn't a different person. The argument is that in order to become an actual dictator, he would have to change as a person, and he's past the point where that can happen. If you want to disagree with that argument, disagree with what it actually means, not this stupid attempt at a gotcha.
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My co-worker thought that Obama was the anti-christ, would not relinquish the presidency and campaign for a 3rd term. My prize for successfully predicting Obama would not seek a third term democratically or otherwise, was a bone-in ribeye. I pray I find somebody just as delusional to take up a similar proposition regarding Trump. Sure, it's possible that I'd lose, yet highly unlikely.
Yeah, that sort of bet is the closest you can get to a sure thing. Take it from anyone foolish enough to make it.
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Yes, also Lou Dobbs. Both hold huge sway with the Evangelical right that serves as Trump's base. I think Tucker Carlson might have also spoke up about it last night but the TV was muted when the subject of those tweets was discussed.
What did Dobbs say? I haven't seen it and a quick Google didn't provide anything relevant.

I don't care much about Falwell. Dobbs is more influential.
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Old 7th May 2019, 10:33 AM   #52
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Originally Posted by Cabbage View Post
This is quite obviously incorrect. When he was older than 70 he hadn't become president yet. Guess what...He THEN became president LATER...Not 20 years before.
No kidding. Being a totalitarian dictator isn't some kind of personality thing, it's kind of a job description.

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He's in a different position, but he isn't a different person. The argument is that in order to become an actual dictator, he would have to change as a person, and he's past the point where that can happen. If you want to disagree with that argument, disagree with what it actually means, not this stupid attempt at a gotcha.
I believe that you have this backwards. I think that Trump's true nature would suit being a dictator very well.

Who here has suggested that he would have to "change as a person" to become a dictator?
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This is quite obviously incorrect. When he was older than 70 he hadn't become president yet. Guess what...He THEN became president LATER...Not 20 years before.
I'm referring to the kind of person he becomes, not the kind of offices he holds. There are many different kinds of person who can be president. How they get there, and what they do there, is a result of the kind of person they are. We can see what kind of person Trump has become, and we can see that it's not the kind of person who is committed to holding onto the presidency in the way that Travis fears.
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Originally Posted by theprestige View Post
I'm referring to the kind of person he becomes, not the kind of offices he holds. There are many different kinds of person who can be president. How they get there, and what they do there, is a result of the kind of person they are. We can see what kind of person Trump has become, and we can see that it's not the kind of person who is committed to holding onto the presidency in the way that Travis fears.
Trump would make an excellent figurehead monarch for a small country that wants attention. His bombast and excesses would be useful in that capacity.

Or he'll just go back to television, where he'll probably be much happier.
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No kidding. Being a totalitarian dictator isn't some kind of personality thing, it's kind of a job description.
I disagree. Most people don't want to be totalitarian dictators. It's just not in their personality. Among those that do, most don't have the personal qualities to pull it off. Mussolinis and Maos just aren't that common.

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I believe that you have this backwards. I think that Trump's true nature would suit being a dictator very well.
Maybe, but for a man who supposedly would enjoy being a dictator, he's put remarkably little effort into making that happen. He got the presidency pretty much by accident. Celebrity status and anti-establishment animus combined to put him in the right place at the right time, and his personality allowed him to exploit that.

But it takes a very different kind of person, with a very different will to power, to set about a program of making themselves dictator. Trump has never set about such a program, neither before nor after taking office. If he were that kind of person, we would have seen the signs decades ago. He would have been on that track decades ago. He wasn't on that track then, and there's no sign he's on that track now. Given what we know about his personality, there's no reason to believe he'll ever get on that track at this point in his life.

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Who here has suggested that he would have to "change as a person" to become a dictator?
I have. Explicitly. More than once. In this thread and in others where the subject has come up. I have suggested this specifically in reply to those who fear that he's that kind of person. I say he isn't that kind of person. I say he'd have to be a different kind of person. I say that at 70 years old, he's not going to become a different kind of person. That ship has sailed. Trump is already the kind of person he's going to become. And that person isn't the kind to become a dictator.
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At this point I feel quite confident that Trump will leave the White House in January of 2025.
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Originally Posted by TragicMonkey View Post
Trump would make an excellent figurehead monarch for a small country that wants attention. His bombast and excesses would be useful in that capacity.

Or he'll just go back to television, where he'll probably be much happier.
Pretty much my take on it. I figure he's like the dog who chased a car, and has no idea what to do now that he's actually got the fender between his jaws. He's hanging in there with doggy bluster, but as soon as the car slows down he's going to let go, shake himself off, sit down, and give his ballsack a good long tongue-bath.
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There's supposed to be a period between the words, to indicate the pause.
That would be syntaxically and grammatically incorrect, though.
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At this point I feel quite confident that Trump will leave the White House in January of 2025.
Speaking of the actual building itself, perhaps we ought to elect the gay guy just so he can fix the decor disasters inflicted by the Trumps. There is probably enough fake gold in there to decorate a Smaug-themed casino. The Xmas decorations can be sold as props for horror movies.
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No kidding. Being a totalitarian dictator isn't some kind of personality thing, it's kind of a job description.
In the case of hereditary dictatorships, personality is less of a factor. But personality is absolutely critical to who becomes a dictator in a previously non-tyrannical country. They aren't all the same, Mao and Lenin and Hitler were all distinctive. But it requires a kind of drive, basically a mania, that most people simply don't have. Even people who think they would like being a dictator mostly could never become a dictator.

And as pointed out, Trump has made no movements in that direction. Seriously, he hasn't expanded the power of the presidency at all. People just throw a **** fit when he exercises the powers that the presidency already has in ways they don't like.

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Who here has suggested that he would have to "change as a person" to become a dictator?
I'll assume that you can figure this part out by now.
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That would be syntaxically and grammatically incorrect, though.
It's spoken English, it doesn't have to be syntactically or grammatically correct.
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That would be syntaxically and grammatically incorrect, though.
Syntactically*

Also, syntax and grammar are redundant in this context.

Anyway, semantics trumps syntax all day, every day. Grammar does not exist for its own sake. Grammar exists to serve the communication of meaning. We make exceptions to the "rules" of grammar all the time, in the service of better conveying some meaning.

Poetry, for example, often plays with the rules of grammar, or ignores them entirely, in order to get at some meaning not conveyed by a doctrinaire adherence to syntax.

And so it is here. We play with the rules of complete sentences and full stops, to convey in writing the meaning conveyed in the original speech. By insisting on "proper" syntax, you have lost the original meaning. This indicates that the syntax is not actually proper in this case. Any time you give up meaning to get "good" grammar, it's time to step back and reconsider the life choices that brought you to such a bad place.
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Originally Posted by Ziggurat View Post
He's in a different position, but he isn't a different person. The argument is that in order to become an actual dictator, he would have to change as a person, and he's past the point where that can happen. If you want to disagree with that argument, disagree with what it actually means, not this stupid attempt at a gotcha.
Positions change people, particularly positions of power. And it's awfully hard to be a dictator without being a leader or president. Tell me, how you can you (or theprestige, actually) argue that if he's a dictator we would have known 20 years ago when......he's only been president for a bit over 2? He would have become a dictator by being the host of a TV reality show????

I find that difficult to believe.
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It's spoken English, it doesn't have to be syntactically or grammatically correct.
It does have to be semantically valuable, though. Which it is. Same as the written form, and different from Belz...'s version.
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Originally Posted by theprestige View Post
Syntactically*

Also, syntax and grammar are redundant in this context.

Anyway, semantics trumps syntax all day, every day. Grammar does not exist for its own sake. Grammar exists to serve the communication of meaning. We make exceptions to the "rules" of grammar all the time, in the service of better conveying some meaning.

Poetry, for example, often plays with the rules of grammar, or ignores them entirely, in order to get at some meaning not conveyed by a doctrinaire adherence to syntax.

And so it is here. We play with the rules of complete sentences and full stops, to convey in writing the meaning conveyed in the original speech. By insisting on "proper" syntax, you have lost the original meaning. This indicates that the syntax is not actually proper in this case. Any time you give up meaning to get "good" grammar, it's time to step back and reconsider the life choices that brought you to such a bad place.
Uh oh. This is the second time today I've agreed with you. A third time is the sign of the Apocalypse.
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I'm referring to the kind of person he becomes, not the kind of offices he holds. There are many different kinds of person who can be president. How they get there, and what they do there, is a result of the kind of person they are. We can see what kind of person Trump has become, and we can see that it's not the kind of person who is committed to holding onto the presidency in the way that Travis fears.
Given his charlatanism/conman history as a businessman, I'd be fascinated to know what you base your "He isn't that kind of person" (paraphrased) on.
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Positions change people, particularly positions of power. And it's awfully hard to be a dictator without being a leader or president. Tell me, how you can you (or theprestige, actually) argue that if he's a dictator we would have known 20 years ago when......he's only been president for a bit over 2? He would have become a dictator by being the host of a TV reality show????

I find that difficult to believe.
Power corrupts, it is true, but Trump's already as corrupt as it's possible to be without being the rotting corpse of Rodrigo Borgia. He's one minor graft away from bodily disintegration.
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I disagree. Most people don't want to be totalitarian dictators. It's just not in their personality. Among those that do, most don't have the personal qualities to pull it off. Mussolinis and Maos just aren't that common.


Maybe, but for a man who supposedly would enjoy being a dictator, he's put remarkably little effort into making that happen. He got the presidency pretty much by accident. Celebrity status and anti-establishment animus combined to put him in the right place at the right time, and his personality allowed him to exploit that.

But it takes a very different kind of person, with a very different will to power, to set about a program of making themselves dictator. Trump has never set about such a program, neither before nor after taking office. If he were that kind of person, we would have seen the signs decades ago. He would have been on that track decades ago. He wasn't on that track then, and there's no sign he's on that track now. Given what we know about his personality, there's no reason to believe he'll ever get on that track at this point in his life.


I have. Explicitly. More than once. In this thread and in others where the subject has come up. I have suggested this specifically in reply to those who fear that he's that kind of person. I say he isn't that kind of person. I say he'd have to be a different kind of person. I say that at 70 years old, he's not going to become a different kind of person. That ship has sailed. Trump is already the kind of person he's going to become. And that person isn't the kind to become a dictator.
I'll admit I haven't studied this formally, but I'd be willing to bet that being a con man is strongly correlated with a tendency to dictatorship.

And you know, in a democratic republic, I think these things need to be done somewhat gradually. Increments into dictatorship (such as declaring a National Emergency in an attempt to usurp Congress' power of the purse), not a sudden jump.

Maybe you don't see them. A hell of a lot of us do.
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I wouldn't take it seriously.

C'mon...
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Power corrupts, it is true, but Trump's already as corrupt as it's possible to be without being the rotting corpse of Rodrigo Borgia. He's one minor graft away from bodily disintegration.

Oh sure, Trump was already corrupt, but back then he wasn't president, either. So

1) We wouldn't expect him to be a dictator back when his biggest claim to fame was as a TV host, and

2) The power of the presidency can corrupt him even more.
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My co-worker thought that Obama was the anti-christ, would not relinquish the presidency and campaign for a 3rd term. My prize for successfully predicting Obama would not seek a third term democratically or otherwise, was a bone-in ribeye. I pray I find somebody just as delusional to take up a similar proposition regarding Trump. Sure, it's possible that I'd lose, yet highly unlikely.
Clearly you need to get into a bet with someone as delusional as the president of the US.
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Pretty much agree. Trump would allege the election was rigged, create an investigative panel, & refuse to admit he lost fairly. Ultimately, he would yield his crown.
Naa better strategy on his part is to claim the election will be rigged and call it off. And like his obstruction of justice or Bush happily torturing prisoners it will all be laughed off by republicans.
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Positions change people, particularly positions of power. And it's awfully hard to be a dictator without being a leader or president. Tell me, how you can you (or theprestige, actually) argue that if he's a dictator we would have known 20 years ago when......he's only been president for a bit over 2? He would have become a dictator by being the host of a TV reality show????
He became the host of a TV reality show instead of becoming a dictator.

Adolph Hitler entered politics, joining the NSDAP (then the DAP) at age 30. He was the leading public figure of the NSDAP by the time he was 32. He instigated the Beer Hall Putsch at age 34. He became a political criminal and published his totalitarian program for Germany by the time he was 35. By the time he was 43, he'd gained enough support from influential politicians and businessmen to get himself installed as Chancellor of Germany. Hitler's entire middle age was devoted to this program of dictatorship. By age 50 he'd pretty much reached Peak Hitler, and that was preceded by almost thirty years of growing effort and focus towards that goal. You think at 70, Trump is going to suddenly start putting in that kind of work, just to stay president a little longer?

I mean, if it fell into his lap for some reason, he'd probably take it, because that's the kind of jackass he is. But I don't see a group of powerful industrialists waiting in the wings to make that happen. Hell, I don't even see a mechanism in the American system of government for that to even be possible. Nor do I see the kind of widespread public sentiment to make it possible without such a mechanism. Nor, of course, do I see any indication that Trump even wants that to happen.

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It's spoken English, it doesn't have to be syntactically or grammatically correct.
Well obviously I didn't strive to be orthographically correct.

And my post was written, not spoken.
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I disagree. Most people don't want to be totalitarian dictators. It's just not in their personality. Among those that do, most don't have the personal qualities to pull it off. Mussolinis and Maos just aren't that common.


Maybe, but for a man who supposedly would enjoy being a dictator, he's put remarkably little effort into making that happen. He got the presidency pretty much by accident. Celebrity status and anti-establishment animus combined to put him in the right place at the right time, and his personality allowed him to exploit that.

But it takes a very different kind of person, with a very different will to power, to set about a program of making themselves dictator. Trump has never set about such a program, neither before nor after taking office. If he were that kind of person, we would have seen the signs decades ago. He would have been on that track decades ago. He wasn't on that track then, and there's no sign he's on that track now. Given what we know about his personality, there's no reason to believe he'll ever get on that track at this point in his life.
Thank you. That's a lot to chew on.


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I have. Explicitly. More than once. In this thread and in others where the subject has come up. I have suggested this specifically in reply to those who fear that he's that kind of person. I say he isn't that kind of person. I say he'd have to be a different kind of person. I say that at 70 years old, he's not going to become a different kind of person. That ship has sailed. Trump is already the kind of person he's going to become. And that person isn't the kind to become a dictator.
Here is where you lose me. You seem to have set up a ... strawman is too harsh ... arbitrary distinction about what kind of person Trump is, and that type is a non-dictator type. Therefore he's not the type to be a dictator, because he's a non-dictatorial personality type. But, as you note, he's 70 years old, so considering what type of person he is -- a lying, scapegoating, con-man authoritarian with anti-democratic views -- this doesn't seem disqualifying for dictatorship in my view.

I also don't believe in a million years that Trump is smart or ambitious enough to make himself a dictator, so maybe I agree with you though.
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I wouldn't take it seriously.

C'mon...
But remember he is the candidate to take seriously not literally.

Here is the thing, the man literally has no sense of humor, it is a joke like his drain the swamp line was a joke. Of course no one should have taken that seriously it was just a trial balloon to gauge reactions. It is a joke like some guy telling his wife how funny it would be if they had a threesome.
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I also don't believe in a million years that Trump is smart or ambitious enough to make himself a dictator, so maybe I agree with you though.
Trump is certainly ambitious enough, the question is, is he to lazy to bother? As for smart, why do you think dictators need to be smart? Hitler made all kinds of really stupid decisions, what makes you think he was some mental giant?
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Thank you. That's a lot to chew on.



Here is where you lose me. You seem to have set up a ... strawman is too harsh ... arbitrary distinction about what kind of person Trump is, and that type is a non-dictator type. Therefore he's not the type to be a dictator, because he's a non-dictatorial personality type. But, as you note, he's 70 years old, so considering what type of person he is -- a lying, scapegoating, con-man authoritarian with anti-democratic views -- this doesn't seem disqualifying for dictatorship in my view.

I also don't believe in a million years that Trump is smart or ambitious enough to make himself a dictator, so maybe I agree with you though.
Fair enough.
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A lot of the discussion here focuses on comparing Trump to historical molds of dictatorship.

But the actual question isn't whether he is a Mussolini but whether he may try to extend his time in office (by means other than winning an election).

I think right now, the only thing keeping him out of prison is the fact that he sits in the oval office. The moment he steps out, NY will likely start the process of putting him behind bars.

He may not be a Mao, but he's absolutely capable of throwing aside any norms, values or laws in his own self interest. If he thought he could get away with it, he'd try to stay in power.
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Originally Posted by Cabbage View Post
Positions change people, particularly positions of power. And it's awfully hard to be a dictator without being a leader or president. Tell me, how you can you (or theprestige, actually) argue that if he's a dictator we would have known 20 years ago when......he's only been president for a bit over 2? He would have become a dictator by being the host of a TV reality show????

I find that difficult to believe.
I would have phrased it a little differently, but the point is that becoming dictator requires a certain kind of will to power, one that doesn't hide itself over the course of a 70+ years of life. Trump likes money, he likes fame, he likes attention, he likes adulation. But he doesn't exhibit the sort of craving for power that dictators have. Aspiring dictators don't wait until they are old in order to pursue that goal, they begin from a much younger age. If Trump was the type of person who really wanted to become a dictator, he would have gotten into politics decades ago. But he didn't. It's not that he wasn't president 20 years ago, it's that he didn't even try to be president, or even any position which would serve as a stepping stone to the presidency, 20 years ago.
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