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Old 11th November 2016, 06:11 AM   #81
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Trump will in fact build a wall. Yes, it might be a fence in some places, and it might be electronic surveillance near natural barriers in other places, but it will be effective in that, when completed, it will reduce illegal immigration by a factor of 10.

As for Mexico paying for the wall, well, it already has. The Mexican peso was 18.3 to the dollar on Tuesday, and now it is 20.6 to the dollar. It has lost 11% of its value because of Trump's election. Given that we import roughly $20 billion of Mexican goods and services per year, which are actually denominated in pesos, the terms of trade have shifted in our favor by $2.2 billion per year. That seems to cover the rate of spending a wall would require.
Your guy won. You can stop living in fantasy land now.
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And he'll pay for #15 how?
He's only going to get them an extra set of binoculars for every ship. That'll be his expansion.
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Old 11th November 2016, 07:18 AM   #84
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And he'll pay for #15 how?
Deficits don't matter. The only thing that matters is aggregate demand vs productive capacity, and aggregate demand has been running below capacity since 2008. There is plenty of room for the government to spend more and tax less.
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That's got to be an amazing wall when you consider that over 50% of illegal immigrants arrive legally on a visa or border crossing card and then over stay, or cross into the US over the Canadian border.
Your statistics are utterly, provably false, as I have explained several times on this forum. If it were true that over 50% of illegal immigrants were visa overstays, then it wouldn't be the case that over 50% of illegal immigrants are from Mexico, and 75% from Latin America.

In any case, I was referring specifically to the illegal immigrants who cross our Southern border.

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How will your wall stop 80% of that?
I do not think that visa overstays is a big problem, but, in any case, that's the easiest problem to fix. Only hand out visas to people who provide enough information for you to track them (e.g. names and addresses of people they're staying with). If there is no record of them leaving when they're supposed to, you track them down.
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Old 11th November 2016, 07:29 AM   #86
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Why is this "pave the whales" **** still a conservative agenda? Is anti-conservation of resources good stewardship of the nation? Are conservatives that convinced some magical skydaddy solution will save us from ourselves?

What a bunch of crap. Recycling your beer cans and not ******** the bed is not liberalism, it's just sensible.
How did we get from doing a realistic cost-benefit analysis of environment regulation to not recycling beer cans? It makes economic sense to recycle beer cans, and for that reason, it will happen. In my town, people are rich enough that even though there is a 5 cent deposit on carbonated beverage containers, they typically just toss them in the recycling bin (or the trash) and don't waste their time bringing them to the store to get back the deposits. But there are people who actually drive around and dig through the recycling bins on trash pickup day to do just that. The market always provides a solution, iff it makes sense.
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Old 11th November 2016, 07:31 AM   #87
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Originally Posted by Argumemnon View Post
You really think the GOP will make a new obamacare? They'll sooner let uninsured people die.
Yes. And nope, they won't kick newly insured people to the curb. The Obamacare subsidies will stay in place - mark my words. Republicans really aren't as hard-hearted as liberals believe. Nowhere near.
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Old 11th November 2016, 07:32 AM   #88
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Originally Posted by NoahFence View Post
Your guy won. You can stop living in fantasy land now.
That's awfully ironic. Which of us was living in a fantasy world before the election?
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Originally Posted by sunmaster14 View Post
Yes. And nope, they won't kick newly insured people to the curb. The Obamacare subsidies will stay in place - mark my words. Republicans really aren't as hard-hearted as liberals believe. Nowhere near.
Well, I took them at their word, but if you think they were lying, ok.

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That's awfully ironic. Which of us was living in a fantasy world before the election?
Following reasonable predictions isn't living in a fantasy world.
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Old 11th November 2016, 07:36 AM   #90
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Originally Posted by sunmaster14 View Post
Republicans really aren't as hard-hearted as liberals believe. Nowhere near.
If it were really rape she wouldn't have gotten pregnant, the female body shuts that down.
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Originally Posted by sunmaster14 View Post
How did we get from doing a realistic cost-benefit analysis of environment regulation to not recycling beer cans? It makes economic sense to recycle beer cans, and for that reason, it will happen. In my town, people are rich enough that even though there is a 5 cent deposit on carbonated beverage containers, they typically just toss them in the recycling bin (or the trash) and don't waste their time bringing them to the store to get back the deposits. But there are people who actually drive around and dig through the recycling bins on trash pickup day to do just that. The market always provides a solution, iff it makes sense.
That's an interesting premise.
"The market will provide a solution, if it makes sense."
"Well, what makes sense then?"
"What the market provides."
"Yeah, but what will the market provide?"
"Whatever makes sense."
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Old 11th November 2016, 07:53 AM   #92
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If it were really rape she wouldn't have gotten pregnant, the female body shuts that down.
It was just locker room talk.
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I also hear from the radio that he is going to end cronyism while appointing his daughter to something.
Isn't there some policy against appointing one's family members? Perhaps he has to start with an executive order changing that?
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Originally Posted by marplots View Post
That's an interesting premise.
"The market will provide a solution, if it makes sense."
"Well, what makes sense then?"
"What the market provides."
"Yeah, but what will the market provide?"
"Whatever makes sense."
"I'm not paying for this conversation."
Consider the source. Not very well versed in critical thought.
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If it were really rape she wouldn't have gotten pregnant, the female body shuts that down.
Healthcare is just another hand-out. People who can't afford health insurance should just die. It's the order of things. If they had worked hard they'd be able to afford it.
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Old 11th November 2016, 08:23 AM   #96
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Originally Posted by Argumemnon View Post
Healthcare is just another hand-out. People who can't afford health insurance should just die. It's the order of things. If they had worked hard they'd be able to afford it.
Except for Medicare. Every trillion dollars spent keeping everybody alive as long as possible is worth it, if the patients are above a certain age. We shouldn't pay for birth control for poor young people but by God we should pay for Viagra for rich old people!
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Yes. And nope, they won't kick newly insured people to the curb. The Obamacare subsidies will stay in place - mark my words. Republicans really aren't as hard-hearted as liberals believe. Nowhere near.
Congressional Republicans sued to stop subsidies in states that did not operate their own exchange claiming that Congress had never explicitly funded the program. The claim was based on the idea that the word exchange in the law did not include the exchange run by the Federal government.

Yes, they are cold hearted bastards.
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Secretary of State candidate, Newt Gingrich, has called for a new House Un-American Activities Committee to hunt "Islamic supremacists" in America.

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Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich is calling for the creation of a new House Committee on Un-American Activities, invoking the infamous "Red Scare"-era congressional body as a blueprint for weeding out American ISIS adherents and sympathizers.

"We originally created the House Un-American Activities Committee to go after Nazis," he said during an appearance on "Fox and Friends" this week. "We passed several laws in 1938 and 1939 to go after Nazis and we made it illegal to help the Nazis. We're going to presently have to go take the similar steps here."
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Regurge. Check the date. That's from June.

Everything is imaginary until proven otherwise.
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The Brown Scare!
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Regurge. Check the date. That's from June.

Everything is imaginary until proven otherwise.
Muslims are scary is a position that Donald has been consistent on. He has very few of them and Newt has his ear.
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If Trump nominates a clearly unqualified person are there any Senate Republicans that would vote against confirmation?

Just wondering if there are any adults left in the room.
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If Trump nominates a clearly unqualified person are there any Senate Republicans that would vote against confirmation?

Just wondering if there are any adults left in the room.
They'd have to be at a Harriet Miers level of clearly unqualified for the position if 2003-2007 taught us anything.
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If Trump nominates a clearly unqualified person are there any Senate Republicans that would vote against confirmation?

Just wondering if there are any adults left in the room.
So long as they get what they want I doubt they'd block anything.
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Old 11th November 2016, 10:57 AM   #106
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Healthcare is just another hand-out. People who can't afford health insurance should just die. It's the order of things. If they had worked hard they'd be able to afford it.
I actually heard one of the end-times "preachers" on the radio say: "In the old days we didn't have health insurance. We had the Master Healer. We trusted in God."

So in the new theocracy, the health care plan will be to tell people to pray. Non-believers are going to hell anyways and don't deserve to be healed of anything in the meantime.

Easy peasy.
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I just had a weird thought. Imagine Trump's first TV address from the Oval Office. Will he even be able to speak without a live audience.

(Additional) - I have a vision of him saying "... I am therefore declaring martial law..." or the like.
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I just had a weird thought. Imagine Trump's first TV address from the Oval Office. Will he even be able to speak without a live audience.

(Additional) - I have a vision of him saying "... I am therefore declaring martial law..." or the like.
Head line-2018, President Trump, and the first piece of a** board air force one to travel to Beijing
China to sign the surrender in the trade war as America surrenders to China giving them control of Korea, and Japan after the Nuclear war between North and South Korea.

Yes it can get worse than this.
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Head line-2018, President Trump, and the first piece of a** board air force one to travel to Beijing
China to sign the surrender in the trade war as America surrenders to China giving them control of Korea, and Japan after the Nuclear war between North and South Korea.

Yes it can get worse than this.
Like I said to my momma a bit ago when she came over to smoke pot and commiserate, we need to stop whirligigging imaginary scenarios. Don't borrow trouble. Find your actionables. We obviously can't predict the future or this thread wouldn't exist.
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Your statistics are utterly, provably false, as I have explained several times on this forum. If it were true that over 50% of illegal immigrants were visa overstays, then it wouldn't be the case that over 50% of illegal immigrants are from Mexico, and 75% from Latin America.
I'm guessing that in the world that exists in your head people from Latin America can't obtain US Visas?

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In any case, I was referring specifically to the illegal immigrants who cross our Southern border.
Your post did not specify this.

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I do not think that visa overstays is a big problem, but, in any case, that's the easiest problem to fix. Only hand out visas to people who provide enough information for you to track them (e.g. names and addresses of people they're staying with). If there is no record of them leaving when they're supposed to, you track them down.
What do you think they do at the moment?
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I actually heard one of the end-times "preachers" on the radio say: "In the old days we didn't have health insurance. We had the Master Healer. We trusted in God."

So in the new theocracy, the health care plan will be to tell people to pray. Non-believers are going to hell anyways and don't deserve to be healed of anything in the meantime.

Easy peasy.
Avoiding health insurance became a religious matter when Obama the Antchrist created the evil Obamacare. I know people who opted out of ACA insurance by joining a health sharing ministry. They pray they don't get sick. If they do get sick they pray the ministry will cover the cost of treatment instead of deciding they are an unworthy sinner.
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I predict that the system of checks and balances will work. Congress and the courts will step in to right the ship of state if the executive tries to sink it.

I predict that, ultimately, the powers of the President will be constrained for decades to come.
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They'd have to be at a Harriet Miers level of clearly unqualified for the position if 2003-2007 taught us anything.
In other words, Michael "heck of a job" Brown has a chance of getting his old FEMA job back.
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I predict that the system of checks and balances will work.
I hope you're right. The problem with checks and balances is that they need people who disagree with each other in order to function.
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I predict that the system of checks and balances will work. Congress and the courts will step in to right the ship of state if the executive tries to sink it.

I predict that, ultimately, the powers of the President will be constrained for decades to come.
Cheney set a precedent for Vice Presidential independence of both legislative and executive branches.
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... when completed, it will reduce illegal immigration by a factor of 10.
Do you have a citation for that?
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I hope you're right. The problem with checks and balances is that they need people who disagree with each other in order to function.
I'm pretty sure people will disagree with each other; groups of people tend to split into factions.
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And here's something about health care. Some rising costs may be sheer, cynical profiteering, but the industry also creates a great many jobs, and hopefully not just for claims adjustors. Discouraging people from using health care may lead to lower revenue for the medical-industrial complex, which wants people to have insurance so the hospital get paid for procedures. This is a little like a federal stimulus project, and suddenly yanking insurance from 22 million people is not a good way to will have stabilize revenues, keep people employed etc.

These actions are interconnected and always, there are unintended consequences. Prioritizing the border could mean less effort on middle-American roadway funding, for example. Really sophisticated border patrol might reduce the need for agents. I think this whole period has the potential to be a learning opportunity, as the adversarial hot air dissipates and people maybe begin to get curious about what's next.
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Avoiding health insurance became a religious matter when Obama the Antchrist created the evil Obamacare. I know people who opted out of ACA insurance by joining a health sharing ministry. They pray they don't get sick. If they do get sick they pray the ministry will cover the cost of treatment instead of deciding they are an unworthy sinner.
Is that real?
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Is that real?
Membership for Health Sharing Ministries Soars Under Obamacare.
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