[Split Thread] Is Donald Trump a Truther?

Childlike Empress · 10th March 2018, 04:17 PM

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Chemtrails are a rare occasion of a "conspiracy theory" that can be investigated by everybody under NATO skies.

9/11 "truth" has not "died out", in fact your president is "a truther", who knows like everybody who paid attention that this truth is just too hard to swallow for the average propaganda victim, i.e. "the masses". I think I got it in 2008 when Alex Jones was leading his brown shirts shouting about the "New World Order" into NYC memorial. Lost cause as a prime focus. But don't "worry", the insurance files are filled to the brinks and the game will "soon" come to a place where you will have to worry if justice will go grainual enough to reach you, "debunker".

Mark F · 10th March 2018, 04:41 PM

Originally Posted by Childlike Empress

https://i.imgur.com/RlIO9Jo.gif

Chemtrails are a rare occasion of a "conspiracy theory" that can be investigated by everybody under NATO skies.

9/11 "truth" has not "died out", in fact your president is "a truther", who knows like everybody who paid attention that this truth is just too hard to swallow for the average propaganda victim, i.e. "the masses". I think I got it in 2008 when Alex Jones was leading his brown shirts shouting about the "New World Order" into NYC memorial. Lost cause as a prime focus. But don't "worry", the insurance files are filled to the brinks and the game will "soon" come to a place where you will have to worry if justice will go grainual enough to reach you, "debunker".

The current POTUS is a pathological liar and extreme narcissist - so yeah, he makes a perfect "Truther".

beachnut · 10th March 2018, 05:25 PM

Originally Posted by Mark F

The current POTUS is a pathological liar and extreme narcissist - so yeah, he makes a perfect "Truther".

He likes Alex Jones, does CE like Alex Jones too?

What, he lies? Does that make CIC, the LIC?

Paik was pointing to the Official Flight path, and CIT are idiots misleading morons who can't think for themselves.

Who can translate this claptrap. Is it a case of wishful projection.

Quote:

Chemtrails are a rare occasion of a "conspiracy theory" that can be investigated by everybody under NATO skies.

9/11 "truth" has not "died out", in fact your president is "a truther", who knows like everybody who paid attention that this truth is just too hard to swallow for the average propaganda victim, i.e. "the masses". I think I got it in 2008 when Alex Jones was leading his brown shirts shouting about the "New World Order" into NYC memorial. Lost cause as a prime focus. But don't "worry", the insurance files are filled to the brinks and the game will "soon" come to a place where you will have to worry if justice will go grainual enough to reach you, "debunker".

We only have >300,000,000 possible/future possible Presidential candidates, and this one lost the popular vote by ~3,000,000 - it makes him an unaware he is the minority party president who thinks Alex Jones is great.

"truth" does that mean CE knows 9/11 truth is a scam? Is CE a chemtrail believer. Jets are spreading a known killer, dihydrogen monoxide. I have spread dihydrogen monoxide from Okinawa to Diego Garcia, to Perth AU, past 60 south, byt Norway past 60 north, all the back to Saudi Arabia.

Dihydrogen monoxide, chemtrails, who knew.

"a truther", doesn't that mean a big liar.

Cosmic Yak · 11th March 2018, 01:59 AM

Originally Posted by Childlike Empress

9/11 "truth" has not "died out", in fact your president is "a truther", who knows like everybody who paid attention that this truth is just too hard to swallow for the average propaganda victim, i.e. "the masses"..

Oh really?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...=.69b4ee7dc5d9

Please quote anything Trump has said about 9/11 to support this idea of yours.

MicahJava · 11th March 2018, 06:26 AM

Originally Posted by Cosmic Yak

Oh really?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...=.69b4ee7dc5d9

Please quote anything Trump has said about 9/11 to support this idea of yours.

Was it a hoax when Trump signed something by AE911TRUTH?

https://911debunkers.blogspot.com/20...1-truther.html

Dave Rogers · 11th March 2018, 06:58 AM

Originally Posted by MicahJava

Was it a hoax when Trump signed something by AE911TRUTH?

https://911debunkers.blogspot.com/20...1-truther.html

Holding out an AE911T flyer when Trump went by in an autograph line, then claiming it proves he supports the 9/11 truth movement, is as low as the movement's sunk now, is it?

I'm amazed you're not embarrassed to post this.

Dave

abaddon · 11th March 2018, 07:50 AM

Originally Posted by MicahJava

Was it a hoax when Trump signed something by AE911TRUTH?

https://911debunkers.blogspot.com/20...1-truther.html

So is 911 truth supposed to be embarrassed by this, or trump, or both?

MicahJava · 11th March 2018, 08:24 AM

Originally Posted by Dave Rogers

Holding out an AE911T flyer when Trump went by in an autograph line, then claiming it proves he supports the 9/11 truth movement, is as low as the movement's sunk now, is it?

I'm amazed you're not embarrassed to post this.

Dave

Did I say "Trump is a WTC demolition theorist and here's the proof"? No. I asked if he signed one of AE911TRUTH's pamphlets. Damn.

beachnut · 11th March 2018, 10:57 AM

Originally Posted by MicahJava

Was it a hoax when Trump signed something by AE911TRUTH?

https://911debunkers.blogspot.com/20...1-truther.html

Tweet him, ask him. If Trump believes 9/11 truth claims, it is proof 9/11 truth claims are real fake news. The problem comes if he starts calling 9/11 truth claim "fake news". oops

benthamitemetric · 11th March 2018, 11:13 AM

Originally Posted by MicahJava

Did I say "Trump is a WTC demolition theorist and here's the proof"? No. I asked if he signed one of AE911TRUTH's pamphlets. Damn.

Who cares? Do you think he even knew what he was signing?

Back in reality, Trump actually was heckled by fraudster Rick Shaddock during the campaign: https://www.infowars.com/911-truther...ampaign-event/

Quote:

Rick Shaddock is an activist for 9/11 Truth and the co-founder of the Association of Nine Eleven Truth Activists. After Shaddock was able to gain access to the press room, he asked Trump a question that left the billionaire confused and dumbfounded. “As a builder of many skyscrapers, you know they’re built to be strong,” Shaddock asked Trump, before saying “Many people have questions about how those towers came down.” “The World Trade Center?” Trump responded with confusion. After Shaddock simply answered with a “yeah,” Trump rolled his eyes, and asked, “Is this guy some kind of conspiracy guy?

Trump isn't the sharpest tool in the shed and it's no wonder he couldn't quickly grasp what would happen when a commercial airliner crashes into a skyscraper, and it's also no wonder he signed thousands of things at campaign rallies without looking at them closely, but even he isn't dull enough to believe 9-11 truth nonsense 17 years later.

Childlike Empress · 11th March 2018, 12:26 PM

Originally Posted by MicahJava

Did I say "Trump is a WTC demolition theorist and here's the proof"? No.

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I AGREE

Oystein · 11th March 2018, 12:35 PM

Hahahahahahaha!
Trump was 4 miles away from the WTC, but he saw bombs. Too funny!

beachnut · 11th March 2018, 01:54 PM

Originally Posted by Childlike Empress

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I AGREE

Wow, someong who lied 2000 times in one year is your support for moronic fantasy of 9/11 truth. CIT were idiots, and Paik was pointing to the real flight path of 77. 9/11 truth is bogus, it does not mean anti-war and other BS is bogus.

9/11 truth is only lies. 16 years of moronic claptrap. Not a surprize Trump, the minority president, says idiotic things, he does it daily.

More evidence why you fell for CIT lies. Or is this a parody on 9/11 truth nonsense.

TJM · 11th March 2018, 02:13 PM

Basically trump is saying the buildings were so robust that a even a bomb couldn’t bring them down, so it had to be a bomb.

Yup, I’d say that’s stupid enough to qualify him as a 9/11 truther.

theprestige · 11th March 2018, 02:20 PM

Originally Posted by AJM8125

Basically trump is saying the buildings were so robust that a even a bomb couldn’t bring them down, so it had to be a bomb.

Yup, I’d say that’s stupid enough to qualify him as a 9/11 truther.

WTF does this have to do with the topic of the thread?

Dave Rogers · 11th March 2018, 03:12 PM

Originally Posted by MicahJava

Did I say "Trump is a WTC demolition theorist and here's the proof"? No. I asked if he signed one of AE911TRUTH's pamphlets. Damn.

Yeah, yeah, you were just saying things at random and it was never meant to support the idea that Trump is a truther, so no fair suggesting you were.

As usual, you're arguing like a five-year-old.

Dave

Brainster · 11th March 2018, 05:02 PM

Originally Posted by AJM8125

Basically trump is saying the buildings were so robust that a even a bomb couldn’t bring them down, so it had to be a bomb.

Yup, I’d say that’s stupid enough to qualify him as a 9/11 truther.

On the day of the attacks? Granted, Trump knows the basics of office buildings better than laymen, but he is not a structural engineer. Remember, the tube-in-tube design of the Twin Towers was not common even in 2001.

ETA: As for Gage, color me unsurprised. The whole 9-11 Truth thing is about where Pearl Harbor Truth was around 1958. He knows he's going to spend the rest of his life competing with Bigfoot enthusiasts, reincarnation experts and psychic detectives. Might as well embrace it.

ProBonoShill · 11th March 2018, 07:49 PM

Originally Posted by MicahJava

Was it a hoax when Trump signed something by AE911TRUTH?

https://911debunkers.blogspot.com/20...1-truther.html

LOLOLOL!!!

Really is this all you have left? Oh wow.

Pick a new hobby, you clearly suck at this one.

Cosmic Yak · 13th March 2018, 01:59 AM

Originally Posted by Childlike Empress

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I AGREE

Originally Posted by Oystein

Hahahahahahaha!
Trump was 4 miles away from the WTC, but he saw bombs. Too funny!

Actually, what Trump said was that he found it hard to believe that only planes and jet fuel could cause that much damage, and he speculated that the planes were loaded with bombs. I'm not sure he said he saw bombs, at least I didn't see anything in that video where he said that.
CE, congratulations. You have linked to a video in which Trump states the WTC was brought down by plane impacts, possibly with the aid of bombs in the planes, by terrorists, with no CD involved at all. You have thus disproved your own claim that he is a truther. Well done.
You may also have missed the video in MicahJava's link, in which Trump calls for the release of the infamous 28 pages, which he says would incriminate the Saudis. Another nice piece of self-debunking.

Oystein · 13th March 2018, 03:40 AM

Trump famously claimed that muslims cheered in New Jersey when the towers were destroyed. Obviously, he thinks muslims take the blame for 9/11.

Trump famously blamed Clinton for not taking out OBL before 9/11 - apparently, Trump believes OBL did 9/11.

Trump famously accused Bush the Lesser for failing to heed the secret services' warnings that islamists planned a terror attack - it seems almost as if Trump believes islamist terrorists did 9/11!

pgimeno · 13th March 2018, 06:33 AM

Too much cognitive dissonance at a time to be able to digest the facts.

Only time can make truthers realize their mistake, if anything. I guess we'll start to see them either call Trump a traitor at some point, or make up excuses to exculpate him for not taking action.

ahhell · 13th March 2018, 06:41 AM

For me, a "truther" has to be invested in the theory. Someone who's a true believer. If trump has any truther tendencies, he's more like the guy who saw a video on youtube and is all, "but there are still questions man!"

Crazy Chainsaw · 15th March 2018, 08:17 AM

I could respect a real Truther, they don't exist Any more, haven't seen them in ages, I can't respect a Twoofer, and I certainly can't respect a liar Like the one currently in the Oval Office.
Conspiracy theorist not Truther, never Truther to dignified a name for Trump.

CORed · 15th March 2018, 08:54 AM

Originally Posted by Oystein

Trump famously claimed that muslims cheered in New Jersey when the towers were destroyed. Obviously, he thinks muslims take the blame for 9/11.

Trump famously blamed Clinton for not taking out OBL before 9/11 - apparently, Trump believes OBL did 9/11.

Trump famously accused Bush the Lesser for failing to heed the secret services' warnings that islamists planned a terror attack - it seems almost as if Trump believes islamist terrorists did 9/11!

This is perhaps a bit off topic, but I remember when Clinton tried unsuccessfully to take out Bin Laden, a lot of Republicans accused him of doing it to divert attention away from the Lewinsky affair.

ahhell · 15th March 2018, 09:06 AM

Originally Posted by CORed

This is perhaps a bit off topic, but I remember when Clinton tried unsuccessfully to take out Bin Laden, a lot of Republicans accused him of doing it to divert attention away from the Lewinsky affair.

You mean the aspirin factory? I vaguely remember a story about him not going after Bin Laden for fear of collateral damage though.

Belz... · 15th March 2018, 09:22 AM

Originally Posted by Childlike Empress

9/11 "truth" has not "died out", in fact your president is "a truther", who knows like everybody who paid attention that this truth is just too hard to swallow for the average propaganda victim, i.e. "the masses".

Oystein · 15th March 2018, 04:22 PM

Originally Posted by CORed

This is perhaps a bit off topic, but I remember when Clinton tried unsuccessfully to take out Bin Laden, a lot of Republicans accused him of doing it to divert attention away from the Lewinsky affair.

Oh I am sure we would have a Trump-tweet to that effect if Twitter had already existed back then

Norman Alexander · 15th March 2018, 05:28 PM

Trump believes only whatever the last person who spoke to him told him. With the attention span and cerebral power and loyalty quotient of a goldfish, he is only in it for what benefit he can get right now. So if he was asked by a Twoofer if he was a twoofer and there's votes or money or publicity in it, then sure - Trump will be a twoofer...at least for the next few minutes until he has to tweet something.

beachnut · 15th March 2018, 07:23 PM

With Trump in charge of 9/11 truth, the movement of idiotic lies, he would fire everyone. 9/11 truth would not exist, after the stable genius took over.

Trump and CIT, idiots for life.

fuelair · 16th March 2018, 09:50 AM

In Trump there is no truth. And truthers do nothing but trump (where trump has the meaning of fart).

Crazy Chainsaw · 19th March 2018, 05:38 AM

Originally Posted by beachnut

With Trump in charge of 9/11 truth, the movement of idiotic lies, he would fire everyone. 9/11 truth would not exist, after the stable genius took over.

Trump and CIT, idiots for life.

The word is insane when I hear you say this about a Republican president, but I doubt Trump could ever actually be called Real Republican.

pgimeno · 22nd August 2018, 10:02 AM

Originally Posted by Childlike Empress

But don't "worry", the insurance files are filled to the brinks and the game will "soon" come to a place where you will have to worry if justice will go grainual enough to reach you, "debunker".

It's been almost half a year. How "soon" is "soon"?

Should I start "worry"ing already? How granular (if that's what you mean) is justice going, and where can we see the results so far?

Maybe it's too "soon". If so, I'll ask again in another half year.

dudalb · 22nd August 2018, 01:35 PM

Originally Posted by pgimeno

It's been almost half a year. How "soon" is "soon"?

Should I start "worry"ing already? How granular (if that's what you mean) is justice going, and where can we see the results so far?

Maybe it's too "soon". If so, I'll ask again in another half year.

Hell, we have been hearing "the truth will be coming out soon" for 17 years....

BStrong · 22nd August 2018, 02:15 PM

The word "truth" and the name "Trump" are pretty much polar opposites - the question would be better framed as :

"Does Donald Trump believe stupid ******"

That would be a yes.

Richard the G · 23rd August 2018, 12:07 AM

Originally Posted by BStrong

The word "truth" and the name "Trump" are pretty much polar opposites - the question would be better framed as :

"Does Donald Trump believe stupid ******"

That would be a yes.

I agree:

But Trump is pretty desperate now and he needs a distraction. Given the choices of war or truth I would prefer he comes out as a truther. I bet you that we will find Comey and Muller were responsible for 9/11.

Ape of Good Hope · 23rd August 2018, 12:09 AM

Regarding the nature of 'Truth', Ex New York Mayor/current Trump Attorney Rudy Giuliani floated a new meme on Sunday:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...acts-orwellian

Quote:

When the definitive history of Donald Trump’s presidency comes to be written, many years hence, 11.02am on Sunday 19 August 2018 will surely be granted a special mention.

It was the moment when the phrase was coined that might be said to sum up the spirit of the Trump era: “Truth isn’t truth.”

Quote:

In a world that has given us “fake news”, “enemy of the people” and – infamously and also to a disbelieving Todd – Kellyanne Conway’s “alternative facts”, Trump’s war on reality had just found its jingle.

The Great Zaganza · 23rd August 2018, 12:55 AM

Obviously, we have to take a popular vote before we can classify something as "True" or "False". We are living in a Democracy, after all!

Hellbound · 23rd August 2018, 05:50 AM

Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza

Obviously, we have to take a popular vote before we can classify something as "True" or "False". We are living in a Democracy, after all!

So far, at any rate. Someone should explain to Trump that "one man, one vote" doesn't mean he should be trying so hard to be that one man.

pgimeno · 23rd August 2018, 07:06 AM

The video that CE linked contained a domain name at the end: http://trumpcommission.org/

They seem to be putting a lot of blind trust on a compulsive liar.

(And spreading lies at the same time)

Edit: As is often the case with Rick's domains, this one seems to be temporarily unavailable. Here's an alternative link:

http://aneta.org/trumpcommission%5Forg/

Edit2: Archived for posterity: http://www.webcitation.org/query?url=http%3A%2F%2Faneta.org%2Ftrumpcommission %255Forg%2F&date=2018-08-23

Oystein · 20th November 2018, 03:03 PM

Trump tweeted yesterday:

Originally Posted by PDJT

Of course we should have captured Osama Bin Laden long before we did. I pointed him out in my book just BEFORE the attack on the World Trade Center. President Clinton famously missed his shot. We paid Pakistan Billions of Dollars & they never told us he was living there. Fools!..

Can any Trumpist Truther construe this any other than Trump inplying that OBL was a mastermind of 9/11? I.e. "official story" got that part right?

10th March 2018, 04:17 PM	#1
Childlike Empress Ewige Blumenkraft Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Ivory Tower Posts: 18,967	Is Donald Trump a Truther? [info]Thread split from here[/info] Chemtrails are a rare occasion of a "conspiracy theory" that can be investigated by everybody under NATO skies. 9/11 "truth" has not "died out", in fact your president is "a truther", who knows like everybody who paid attention that this truth is just too hard to swallow for the average propaganda victim, i.e. "the masses". I think I got it in 2008 when Alex Jones was leading his brown shirts shouting about the "New World Order" into NYC memorial. Lost cause as a prime focus. But don't "worry", the insurance files are filled to the brinks and the game will "soon" come to a place where you will have to worry if justice will go grainual enough to reach you, "debunker".
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10th March 2018, 04:41 PM	#2
Mark F Graduate Poster Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 1,740	Originally Posted by Childlike Empress https://i.imgur.com/RlIO9Jo.gif Chemtrails are a rare occasion of a "conspiracy theory" that can be investigated by everybody under NATO skies. 9/11 "truth" has not "died out", in fact your president is "a truther", who knows like everybody who paid attention that this truth is just too hard to swallow for the average propaganda victim, i.e. "the masses". I think I got it in 2008 when Alex Jones was leading his brown shirts shouting about the "New World Order" into NYC memorial. Lost cause as a prime focus. But don't "worry", the insurance files are filled to the brinks and the game will "soon" come to a place where you will have to worry if justice will go grainual enough to reach you, "debunker". The current POTUS is a pathological liar and extreme narcissist - so yeah, he makes a perfect "Truther".
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10th March 2018, 05:25 PM	#3
beachnut Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Dog House Posts: 25,833	Originally Posted by Mark F The current POTUS is a pathological liar and extreme narcissist - so yeah, he makes a perfect "Truther". He likes Alex Jones, does CE like Alex Jones too? What, he lies? Does that make CIC, the LIC? Paik was pointing to the Official Flight path, and CIT are idiots misleading morons who can't think for themselves. Who can translate this claptrap. Is it a case of wishful projection. Quote: Chemtrails are a rare occasion of a "conspiracy theory" that can be investigated by everybody under NATO skies. 9/11 "truth" has not "died out", in fact your president is "a truther", who knows like everybody who paid attention that this truth is just too hard to swallow for the average propaganda victim, i.e. "the masses". I think I got it in 2008 when Alex Jones was leading his brown shirts shouting about the "New World Order" into NYC memorial. Lost cause as a prime focus. But don't "worry", the insurance files are filled to the brinks and the game will "soon" come to a place where you will have to worry if justice will go grainual enough to reach you, "debunker". We only have >300,000,000 possible/future possible Presidential candidates, and this one lost the popular vote by ~3,000,000 - it makes him an unaware he is the minority party president who thinks Alex Jones is great. "truth" does that mean CE knows 9/11 truth is a scam? Is CE a chemtrail believer. Jets are spreading a known killer, dihydrogen monoxide. I have spread dihydrogen monoxide from Okinawa to Diego Garcia, to Perth AU, past 60 south, byt Norway past 60 north, all the back to Saudi Arabia. Dihydrogen monoxide, chemtrails, who knew. "a truther", doesn't that mean a big liar.
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11th March 2018, 01:59 AM	#4
Cosmic Yak Illuminator Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Where there's never a road broader than the back of your hand. Posts: 3,892	Originally Posted by Childlike Empress 9/11 "truth" has not "died out", in fact your president is "a truther", who knows like everybody who paid attention that this truth is just too hard to swallow for the average propaganda victim, i.e. "the masses".. Oh really? https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...=.69b4ee7dc5d9 Please quote anything Trump has said about 9/11 to support this idea of yours.
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11th March 2018, 06:26 AM	#5
MicahJava Illuminator Join Date: Jan 2016 Posts: 3,005	Originally Posted by Cosmic Yak Oh really? https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...=.69b4ee7dc5d9 Please quote anything Trump has said about 9/11 to support this idea of yours. Was it a hoax when Trump signed something by AE911TRUTH? https://911debunkers.blogspot.com/20...1-truther.html
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11th March 2018, 06:58 AM	#6
Dave Rogers Bandaged ice that stampedes inexpensively through a scribbled morning waving necessary ankles Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Cair Paravel, according to XKCD Posts: 32,362	Originally Posted by MicahJava Was it a hoax when Trump signed something by AE911TRUTH? https://911debunkers.blogspot.com/20...1-truther.html Holding out an AE911T flyer when Trump went by in an autograph line, then claiming it proves he supports the 9/11 truth movement, is as low as the movement's sunk now, is it? I'm amazed you're not embarrassed to post this. Dave
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11th March 2018, 07:50 AM	#7
abaddon Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Republic of Ireland Posts: 21,294	Originally Posted by MicahJava Was it a hoax when Trump signed something by AE911TRUTH? https://911debunkers.blogspot.com/20...1-truther.html So is 911 truth supposed to be embarrassed by this, or trump, or both?
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11th March 2018, 08:24 AM	#8
MicahJava Illuminator Join Date: Jan 2016 Posts: 3,005	Originally Posted by Dave Rogers Holding out an AE911T flyer when Trump went by in an autograph line, then claiming it proves he supports the 9/11 truth movement, is as low as the movement's sunk now, is it? I'm amazed you're not embarrassed to post this. Dave Did I say "Trump is a WTC demolition theorist and here's the proof"? No. I asked if he signed one of AE911TRUTH's pamphlets. Damn.
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11th March 2018, 10:57 AM	#9
beachnut Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Dog House Posts: 25,833	Originally Posted by MicahJava Was it a hoax when Trump signed something by AE911TRUTH? https://911debunkers.blogspot.com/20...1-truther.html Tweet him, ask him. If Trump believes 9/11 truth claims, it is proof 9/11 truth claims are real fake news. The problem comes if he starts calling 9/11 truth claim "fake news". oops
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11th March 2018, 11:13 AM	#10
benthamitemetric Muse Join Date: Dec 2015 Posts: 568	Originally Posted by MicahJava Did I say "Trump is a WTC demolition theorist and here's the proof"? No. I asked if he signed one of AE911TRUTH's pamphlets. Damn. Who cares? Do you think he even knew what he was signing? Back in reality, Trump actually was heckled by fraudster Rick Shaddock during the campaign: https://www.infowars.com/911-truther...ampaign-event/ Quote: Rick Shaddock is an activist for 9/11 Truth and the co-founder of the Association of Nine Eleven Truth Activists. After Shaddock was able to gain access to the press room, he asked Trump a question that left the billionaire confused and dumbfounded. “As a builder of many skyscrapers, you know they’re built to be strong,” Shaddock asked Trump, before saying “Many people have questions about how those towers came down.” “The World Trade Center?” Trump responded with confusion. After Shaddock simply answered with a “yeah,” Trump rolled his eyes, and asked, “Is this guy some kind of conspiracy guy? Trump isn't the sharpest tool in the shed and it's no wonder he couldn't quickly grasp what would happen when a commercial airliner crashes into a skyscraper, and it's also no wonder he signed thousands of things at campaign rallies without looking at them closely, but even he isn't dull enough to believe 9-11 truth nonsense 17 years later.
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11th March 2018, 12:35 PM	#12
Oystein Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 16,999	Hahahahahahaha! Trump was 4 miles away from the WTC, but he saw bombs. Too funny!
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11th March 2018, 02:13 PM	#14
TJM Potsing Whiled Runk Tagger Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 21,636	Basically trump is saying the buildings were so robust that a even a bomb couldn’t bring them down, so it had to be a bomb. Yup, I’d say that’s stupid enough to qualify him as a 9/11 truther.
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11th March 2018, 02:20 PM	#15
theprestige Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 49,583	Originally Posted by AJM8125 Basically trump is saying the buildings were so robust that a even a bomb couldn’t bring them down, so it had to be a bomb. Yup, I’d say that’s stupid enough to qualify him as a 9/11 truther. WTF does this have to do with the topic of the thread?

11th March 2018, 03:12 PM	#16
Dave Rogers Bandaged ice that stampedes inexpensively through a scribbled morning waving necessary ankles Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Cair Paravel, according to XKCD Posts: 32,362	Originally Posted by MicahJava Did I say "Trump is a WTC demolition theorist and here's the proof"? No. I asked if he signed one of AE911TRUTH's pamphlets. Damn. Yeah, yeah, you were just saying things at random and it was never meant to support the idea that Trump is a truther, so no fair suggesting you were. As usual, you're arguing like a five-year-old. Dave
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11th March 2018, 05:02 PM	#17
Brainster Penultimate Amazing Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 18,292	Originally Posted by AJM8125 Basically trump is saying the buildings were so robust that a even a bomb couldn’t bring them down, so it had to be a bomb. Yup, I’d say that’s stupid enough to qualify him as a 9/11 truther. On the day of the attacks? Granted, Trump knows the basics of office buildings better than laymen, but he is not a structural engineer. Remember, the tube-in-tube design of the Twin Towers was not common even in 2001. ETA: As for Gage, color me unsurprised. The whole 9-11 Truth thing is about where Pearl Harbor Truth was around 1958. He knows he's going to spend the rest of his life competing with Bigfoot enthusiasts, reincarnation experts and psychic detectives. Might as well embrace it.
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11th March 2018, 07:49 PM	#18
ProBonoShill Master Poster Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 2,321	Originally Posted by MicahJava Was it a hoax when Trump signed something by AE911TRUTH? https://911debunkers.blogspot.com/20...1-truther.html LOLOLOL!!! Really is this all you have left? Oh wow. Pick a new hobby, you clearly suck at this one.
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13th March 2018, 03:40 AM	#20
Oystein Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 16,999	Trump famously claimed that muslims cheered in New Jersey when the towers were destroyed. Obviously, he thinks muslims take the blame for 9/11. Trump famously blamed Clinton for not taking out OBL before 9/11 - apparently, Trump believes OBL did 9/11. Trump famously accused Bush the Lesser for failing to heed the secret services' warnings that islamists planned a terror attack - it seems almost as if Trump believes islamist terrorists did 9/11!
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13th March 2018, 06:33 AM	#21
pgimeno Illuminator Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Spain Posts: 3,641	Too much cognitive dissonance at a time to be able to digest the facts. Only time can make truthers realize their mistake, if anything. I guess we'll start to see them either call Trump a traitor at some point, or make up excuses to exculpate him for not taking action.

13th March 2018, 06:41 AM	#22
ahhell Illuminator Join Date: Feb 2017 Posts: 3,408	For me, a "truther" has to be invested in the theory. Someone who's a true believer. If trump has any truther tendencies, he's more like the guy who saw a video on youtube and is all, "but there are still questions man!"
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15th March 2018, 08:17 AM	#23
Crazy Chainsaw Philosopher Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 5,465	I could respect a real Truther, they don't exist Any more, haven't seen them in ages, I can't respect a Twoofer, and I certainly can't respect a liar Like the one currently in the Oval Office. Conspiracy theorist not Truther, never Truther to dignified a name for Trump.

15th March 2018, 08:54 AM	#24
CORed Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Central City, Colorado, USA Posts: 10,080	Originally Posted by Oystein Trump famously claimed that muslims cheered in New Jersey when the towers were destroyed. Obviously, he thinks muslims take the blame for 9/11. Trump famously blamed Clinton for not taking out OBL before 9/11 - apparently, Trump believes OBL did 9/11. Trump famously accused Bush the Lesser for failing to heed the secret services' warnings that islamists planned a terror attack - it seems almost as if Trump believes islamist terrorists did 9/11! This is perhaps a bit off topic, but I remember when Clinton tried unsuccessfully to take out Bin Laden, a lot of Republicans accused him of doing it to divert attention away from the Lewinsky affair.

15th March 2018, 09:06 AM	#25
ahhell Illuminator Join Date: Feb 2017 Posts: 3,408	Originally Posted by CORed This is perhaps a bit off topic, but I remember when Clinton tried unsuccessfully to take out Bin Laden, a lot of Republicans accused him of doing it to divert attention away from the Lewinsky affair. You mean the aspirin factory? I vaguely remember a story about him not going after Bin Laden for fear of collateral damage though.
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15th March 2018, 09:22 AM	#26
Belz... Fiend God Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: In a post-fact world Posts: 91,333	Originally Posted by Childlike Empress 9/11 "truth" has not "died out", in fact your president is "a truther", who knows like everybody who paid attention that this truth is just too hard to swallow for the average propaganda victim, i.e. "the masses".
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15th March 2018, 04:22 PM	#27
Oystein Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 16,999	Originally Posted by CORed This is perhaps a bit off topic, but I remember when Clinton tried unsuccessfully to take out Bin Laden, a lot of Republicans accused him of doing it to divert attention away from the Lewinsky affair. Oh I am sure we would have a Trump-tweet to that effect if Twitter had already existed back then
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15th March 2018, 05:28 PM	#28
Norman Alexander Philosopher Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Gundungurra Posts: 8,770	Trump believes only whatever the last person who spoke to him told him. With the attention span and cerebral power and loyalty quotient of a goldfish, he is only in it for what benefit he can get right now. So if he was asked by a Twoofer if he was a twoofer and there's votes or money or publicity in it, then sure - Trump will be a twoofer...at least for the next few minutes until he has to tweet something.
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15th March 2018, 07:23 PM	#29
beachnut Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Dog House Posts: 25,833	With Trump in charge of 9/11 truth, the movement of idiotic lies, he would fire everyone. 9/11 truth would not exist, after the stable genius took over. Trump and CIT, idiots for life.
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16th March 2018, 09:50 AM	#30
fuelair Banned Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 58,581	In Trump there is no truth. And truthers do nothing but trump (where trump has the meaning of fart).
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19th March 2018, 05:38 AM	#31
Crazy Chainsaw Philosopher Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 5,465	Originally Posted by beachnut With Trump in charge of 9/11 truth, the movement of idiotic lies, he would fire everyone. 9/11 truth would not exist, after the stable genius took over. Trump and CIT, idiots for life. The word is insane when I hear you say this about a Republican president, but I doubt Trump could ever actually be called Real Republican.

22nd August 2018, 10:02 AM	#32
pgimeno Illuminator Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Spain Posts: 3,641	Originally Posted by Childlike Empress But don't "worry", the insurance files are filled to the brinks and the game will "soon" come to a place where you will have to worry if justice will go grainual enough to reach you, "debunker". It's been almost half a year. How "soon" is "soon"? Should I start "worry"ing already? How granular (if that's what you mean) is justice going, and where can we see the results so far? Maybe it's too "soon". If so, I'll ask again in another half year.

22nd August 2018, 01:35 PM	#33
dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sacramento Posts: 50,327	Originally Posted by pgimeno It's been almost half a year. How "soon" is "soon"? Should I start "worry"ing already? How granular (if that's what you mean) is justice going, and where can we see the results so far? Maybe it's too "soon". If so, I'll ask again in another half year. Hell, we have been hearing "the truth will be coming out soon" for 17 years....
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22nd August 2018, 02:15 PM	#34
BStrong Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: San Francisco Posts: 13,079	The word "truth" and the name "Trump" are pretty much polar opposites - the question would be better framed as : "Does Donald Trump believe stupid ******" That would be a yes.
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23rd August 2018, 12:07 AM	#35
Richard the G Critical Thinker Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 253	Originally Posted by BStrong The word "truth" and the name "Trump" are pretty much polar opposites - the question would be better framed as : "Does Donald Trump believe stupid ******" That would be a yes. I agree: But Trump is pretty desperate now and he needs a distraction. Given the choices of war or truth I would prefer he comes out as a truther. I bet you that we will find Comey and Muller were responsible for 9/11.

23rd August 2018, 12:09 AM	#36
Ape of Good Hope Graduate Poster Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 1,494	Regarding the nature of 'Truth', Ex New York Mayor/current Trump Attorney Rudy Giuliani floated a new meme on Sunday: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...acts-orwellian Quote: When the definitive history of Donald Trump’s presidency comes to be written, many years hence, 11.02am on Sunday 19 August 2018 will surely be granted a special mention. It was the moment when the phrase was coined that might be said to sum up the spirit of the Trump era: “Truth isn’t truth.” Quote: In a world that has given us “fake news”, “enemy of the people” and – infamously and also to a disbelieving Todd – Kellyanne Conway’s “alternative facts”, Trump’s war on reality had just found its jingle.

23rd August 2018, 12:55 AM	#37
The Great Zaganza Maledictorian Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 14,642	Obviously, we have to take a popular vote before we can classify something as "True" or "False". We are living in a Democracy, after all!
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23rd August 2018, 05:50 AM	#38
Hellbound Merchant of Doom Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Not in Hell, but I can see it from here on a clear day... Posts: 14,388	Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza Obviously, we have to take a popular vote before we can classify something as "True" or "False". We are living in a Democracy, after all! So far, at any rate. Someone should explain to Trump that "one man, one vote" doesn't mean he should be trying so hard to be that one man.