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Lackey
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Oh you are so right, none of the models used by the UK governments to make policy said my mother and her partner would get the disease - I know because I’ve looked.
What is the use of these models if they aren’t “spot on” and can’t say whether two people out of over 60 million will get the disease. |
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#2642 |
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First, I am sorry your mother and her partner contracted the disease.
Second, I recognize the sarcasm... I was not referring to specific events and as you know, modeling will never cover that level of detail. The R0 and the Re have been all over the board and the modeling for isolation, social distancing, face masks, reduction of crowd size and so on... has done very little to contain this virus. Every mitigating method is based off of modeling and yet the numbers rise. The methods to flatten the curve may more influence on this virus to continue than anything else. Flattening was never intended to eliminate this virus, it was enforced to halt the rapid rise at the beginning of this mess AND it was successful in accomplishing that goal but it extended the duration time. Now that the winter is approaching those who live in the Northern Hemisphere... it could be a greater nightmare. |
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#2644 |
Penultimate Amazing
Join Date: Sep 2001
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Wow, they had to throw shade at the celebration of Trump's defeat in there announcement of Carson's illness.
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#2645 |
Penultimate Amazing
Join Date: Jun 2010
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Biden:
"The single most effective thing we can do to stop the spread of Covid is wear a mask. The head of the CDC warned this fall & for the foreseeable future, a mask remains the most potent weapon against the virus...do it for your neighbor. A mask is not a political statement |
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#2646 |
Penultimate Amazing
Join Date: Jun 2010
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Donald Trump Jr. Tweeted
The timing of this is pretty amazing. Nothing nefarious about the timing of this at all right? Face with rolling eyes Quote Tweet Lauren Peikoff @laurenpeikoff BREAKING: Pfizer’s coronavirus vaccine is more than 90% effective in first analysis, company reports https://washingtonpost.com/health/20...ive/?tid=ss_tw |
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Penultimate Amazing
Join Date: Jun 2010
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Donald Trump Jr. tweeted
@DonaldJTrumpJr Amazing how this is coming out now. It’s almost as if it was always exaggerated on purpose! Quote Tweet Daily Mail U.K. @DailyMailUK Official data is 'exaggerating' the risk of Covid and talk of a second wave is 'misleading', 500 academics say https://trib.al/nQtCVq1 |
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#2648 |
Penultimate Amazing
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Canada, eh?
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Not the only person associated with Trump to have caught it recently...
From: Law and Crime David Bossie, a conservative activist who is not a lawyer but who is nonetheless coordinating the Trump campaign’s post-election legal strategy, has tested positive for COVID-19... From the looks of it, this guy was a one-man super-spreader event... both visiting campaign offices and travelling. |
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#2649 |
Penultimate Amazing
Join Date: Jun 2010
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Dan Crenshaw tweets
@DanCrenshawTX US House candidate, TX-2 Great work by the administration pushing the historic and unprecedented vaccine development under Operation Warp Speed, even as cynical Democrats attempted to undermine its credibility. Joe Biden’s only plan for the virus is Trump’s plan. Always has been. |
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#2650 |
Penultimate Amazing
Join Date: Jun 2010
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Trump Tweets
If Joe Biden were President, you wouldn’t have the Vaccine for another four years, nor would the @US_FDA have ever approved it so quickly. The bureaucracy would have destroyed millions of lives! As I have long said, @Pfizer and the others would only announce a Vaccine after the Election, because they didn’t have the courage to do it before. Likewise, the @US_FDA should have announced it earlier, not for political purposes, but for saving lives! |
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#2651 |
Illuminator
Join Date: Feb 2007
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#2652 |
Penultimate Amazing
Join Date: Jun 2010
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Does he really think the entire world conspired to hold back a vaccine just to get at him?
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#2653 |
Scholar
Join Date: Jun 2016
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Yes, the world revolves around him.
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#2655 |
Penultimate Amazing
Join Date: Jun 2010
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Trump Tweets
Nothing! Quote Tweet Mark R. Levin @marklevinshow 1. Phony Joe Biden. Joe Biden is truly an ambulance chaser. He had nothing to do with the vaccine that is about to be made available to the public, he had nothing to do with the manufacturing process that is already underway, 2. and he had nothing to do with the distribution process that is set in place, all of which were superbly instituted by President Trump and his team. 3. So, there he is, at a podium, reading from a teleprompter, telling us how he will follow the science, how he will distribute the vaccine, etc., 4. now that Pfizer announced today that its vaccine is ready to go very, very soon (obviously, Pfizer chose to hold back its announcement until after the election). 5. This is the kind of ******** we are going to hear from this clown (to quote him), who did absolutely nothing and has done absolutely nothing. 6. In fact, all the while, when Trump and his team were doing everything possible to get vaccines and therapeutics invented and distributed, Biden was attacking them every step of the way. But it's just like the economy, which is springing back in a huge way. 7. Biden has trashed the unprecedented rebound, spewing the usual bromides about how only the rich benefit, etc. Biden is not the president yet, if ever, depending how events unfold. 8. But regardless, this really takes a set of grapefruits for Biden to posture as he did today, and for the media to regurgitate it like Biden has somehow done something or accomplished something. Biden has been AWOL, utterly irrelevant. 9. And it is nauseating watching this choreographed fiction by the guy who hid in his basement throughout the virus. |
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#2656 |
Penultimate Amazing
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: NY
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I thought Covid-19 was going to disappear after Election Day?
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#2657 |
Penultimate Amazing
Join Date: Jun 2010
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Ivanka thinks Don should get the credit.
@IvankaTrump Once again, our President defied the expectations of the “experts” and delivered on his ambitious goal of having a safe + effective #COVID19 #vaccine for the American people by the end of this year! Promises Made, Promises Kept Flag of United States |
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#2658 |
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Since the pandemic began, Trump, like a cable TV psychic medium, has been throwing **** against the wall to see what will stick. If Ivanka insists on using scare quotes around the word expert, she should include the biggest "expert" of all: her father.
It's 15 people and soon it will be down to zero. It's like a flu. It'll go away with the heat. He endorsed unproven treatments like chloroquine and oleandrin, suggested moronic treatments like injecting disinfectant and light. He discouraged masks and social distancing, even and especially at his idiot rallies. He said it was going away. His administration's lackadaisical attitude towards the virus resulted in Trump getting it himself. He then still held super-spreader rallies, said we had" turned the corner," and finally, finally was semi-correct about a fast-tracked vaccine that he had little, if anything, to do with. It still has to be FDA approved, manufactured in vast amounts, and probably won't be available in quantity to the public in general until first quarter 2021. Or just as the most optimistic "experts" were predicting. So yeah 'Vanka, your old man was in the general vicinity of being right about something, without having much to do with that something, so **** off. |
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#2659 |
Illuminator
Join Date: Sep 2006
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Pfizer wasn't a part of operation warp speed.
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#2660 |
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Illuminator
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#2665 |
Lackey
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#2666 |
Penultimate Amazing
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trump's nemesis, the Washington Post, has a non-paywalled news article headlined, "40 times Trump said the coronavirus would go away," and consists of video of sound bites as trump "repeatedly said that the virus will disappear": WaPo link
(When you click on the video at the top of the linked page there is a brief commercial.) "One day it will go away, just like a miracle." Sure it will. ![]() |
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Penultimate Amazing
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#2669 |
Penultimate Amazing
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1. He'd never do that. 2. Okay but he's not currently doing it. 3. Okay but he's not currently technically doing it. 4. Okay but everyone does it. 5. He's doing it, we can't stop him, no point in complaining about it. 6. We all knew he was going to do it which... makes it okay somehow. 7. It's perfectly fine that's he's doing it. |
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#2670 |
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#2671 |
Penultimate Amazing
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: United States
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How dare you all be mentioning Covid after Nov. 3! Are you trying to make a liar out of our president?
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#2672 |
Maledictorian
Join Date: Aug 2016
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The Pfizer vaccine has the serious drawback of needing deep cooling, which probably means slower distribution and possibly even slower manufacture.
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#2674 |
Penultimate Amazing
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Penultimate Amazing
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On October 30th, Dr. Anthony Fauci predicted that the country is heading into a new surge in Covid-19 cases and deaths would rise as well. He criticized governments that were unwilling to make tough choices. Since November 4th, the day after the elections, new cases in the U.S. have topped 100,000 every day.
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Penultimate Amazing
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#2677 |
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COVID hospitalizations at all time high.
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Penultimate Amazing
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Penultimate Amazing
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Master Poster
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