[Continuation] The Trump Presidency: Part 27 - Page 3

Captain_Swoop · 6th January 2021, 12:41 PM

Pictures of guards in chamber with weapons drawn covering the doors.

dudalb · 6th January 2021, 12:41 PM

Originally Posted by Checkmite

It's literally the crowd from Trump's rally a couple of hours ago.

It's the selfsame group of people.

And Trump is still egging them on.

Captain_Swoop · 6th January 2021, 12:42 PM

Armed stand off with protestors in the rotunda.

timhau · 6th January 2021, 12:42 PM

Originally Posted by Checkmite

It's literally the crowd from Trump's rally a couple of hours ago.

It's the selfsame group of people.

Here you go again, citing facts as if they mattered.

Captain_Swoop · 6th January 2021, 12:45 PM

They’re in the chamber. One is up on the dais yelling “Trump won that election!”

Captain_Swoop · 6th January 2021, 12:47 PM

Protestors on all floors going door to door around the offices.

dudalb · 6th January 2021, 12:52 PM

Shoot the bastards.They are involved in a violent attempt to overthrow the government of the United States.

dudalb · 6th January 2021, 12:53 PM

Mitt Romeny just called this "Insurrection".
And Trump is doing this nothing.

Captain_Swoop · 6th January 2021, 12:53 PM

They have got on to scaffolding and are climbing around on the outside of the building banging on windows.

Minoosh · 6th January 2021, 12:53 PM

Originally Posted by kookbreaker

Police were able to tear gas and riot shield actual peaceful protestors so Trump could stand in front of a church and hold a bible upside down. Now suddenly the police are useless. CNN keeps cutting to small columns of cops and handfuls of police vehicles that are totally ineffective and not doing anything.

I wouldn't necessarily draw that conclusion based on a video clip. I imagine the rules of engagement here are pretty strict. People have been shot for less than the MAGA idiots are doing but I think "no fatalities" is a pretty big priority.

Minoosh · 6th January 2021, 12:55 PM

Originally Posted by dudalb

Shoot the bastards.They are involved in a violent attempt to overthrow the government of the United States.

Gorilla tranquilizer would be OK with me.

Captain_Swoop · 6th January 2021, 12:56 PM

Rep. Dan Kildee tweets

@RepDanKildee
I am in the House Chambers. We have been instructed to lie down on the floor and put on our gas masks. Chamber security and Capitol Police have their guns drawn as protesters bang on the front door of the chamber.

This is not a protest. This is an attack on America.

Captain_Swoop · 6th January 2021, 12:57 PM

There is video of a woman covered in blood being taken out of the Capitol on a stretcher

Minoosh · 6th January 2021, 12:58 PM

Originally Posted by dudalb

Mitt Romeny just called this "Insurrection".
And Trump is doing this nothing.

Nonsense - he's probably tweeting his support.

What's next? Hostages?

Captain_Swoop · 6th January 2021, 12:58 PM

Aaron C. Davis (WaPo) tweets

@byaaroncdavis
BREAKING: A source tells me The Defense Department has just denied a request by DC officials to deploy the National Guard to the US Capitol.

Captain_Swoop · 6th January 2021, 12:59 PM

Garrett Haake (NBC) tweets

@GarrettHaake
Two sources familiar tell me that @SpeakerPelosi & @MayorBowser have asked for the national guard to come to Capitol Hill to clear rioters. One of those sources says DOD has not yet approved change-of-mission for the DC guard.

Captain_Swoop · 6th January 2021, 01:00 PM

So there you have it, the National Guard were only there to gas Black Lives Matter protestors ... but won't come and help when the seat of government is invaded???

thaiboxerken · 6th January 2021, 01:01 PM

Apparently, the national guard isn't authorized to be there because DC isn't a state.

timhau · 6th January 2021, 01:02 PM

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop

Garrett Haake (NBC) tweets

@GarrettHaake
Two sources familiar tell me that @SpeakerPelosi & @MayorBowser have asked for the national guard to come to Capitol Hill to clear rioters. One of those sources says DOD has not yet approved change-of-mission for the DC guard.

Quote:

Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort.

Tell me how this doesn't fit.

Bob001 · 6th January 2021, 01:16 PM

Originally Posted by thaiboxerken

Apparently, the national guard isn't authorized to be there because DC isn't a state.

D.C. has National Guard units which the Mayor activated and deployed elsewhere to deal with planned demonstrations. Apparently they need new orders approved by the Pentagon before they can go to the Capitol.

Bob001 · 6th January 2021, 01:18 PM

On the bright side, in many other countries police and troops would have opened up with machine guns. So far here, nobody's been killed, and only a few injuries have been reported.

Captain_Swoop · 6th January 2021, 01:23 PM

Originally Posted by Bob001

On the bright side, in many other countries police and troops would have opened up with machine guns. So far here, nobody's been killed, and only a few injuries have been reported.

Yes because surrendering your government chambers to terrorists and evacuating the building is so much a better look.

Captain_Swoop · 6th January 2021, 01:26 PM

Kellyanne Conway tweets

@KellyannePolls
STOP. Just STOP. Peace. Law and Order. Safety for All

Captain_Swoop · 6th January 2021, 01:26 PM

Ted Cruz tweets

@tedcruz
Violence is always unacceptable. Even when passions run high.

Anyone engaged in violence—especially against law enforcement—should be fully prosecuted.

God bless the Capitol Police and the honorable men & women of law enforcement who show great courage keeping all of us safe.

Bob001 · 6th January 2021, 01:29 PM

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop

Yes because surrendering your government chambers to terrorists and evacuating the building is so much a better look.

Vs. a massive death count? Yes, actually. Eventually all these people will be arrested and prosecuted.

Mader Levap · 6th January 2021, 01:29 PM

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop

@tedcruz
Violence is always unacceptable. Even when passions run high.

Anyone engaged in violence—especially against law enforcement—should be fully prosecuted.

God bless the Capitol Police and the honorable men & women of law enforcement who show great courage keeping all of us safe.

Aw, it is so nice when we get this kind of word from people that worked hard for decades to get today's outcome.

alfaniner · 6th January 2021, 01:30 PM

I'm going to go out on a limb and say Trump will be out by Friday.

TragicMonkey · 6th January 2021, 01:33 PM

I always knew this thing would end in total ********, I just didn't expect this would be the form it would take. I thought he'd start a war with Iran instead. I guess there's still time for that.

ponderingturtle · 6th January 2021, 01:34 PM

Originally Posted by TragicMonkey

I always knew this thing would end in total ********, I just didn't expect this would be the form it would take. I thought he'd start a war with Iran instead. I guess there's still time for that.

He could have and we just haven't heard about it yet.

Armitage72 · 6th January 2021, 01:35 PM

Originally Posted by Bob001

On the bright side, in many other countries police and troops would have opened up with machine guns. So far here, nobody's been killed, and only a few injuries have been reported.

"Other than that, how was the play Mrs. Lincoln?"

Captain_Swoop · 6th January 2021, 01:35 PM

Captain_Swoop · 6th January 2021, 01:36 PM

Originally Posted by Bob001

Vs. a massive death count? Yes, actually. Eventually all these people will be arrested and prosecuted.

Your government was driven out of it's own chamber and seat of power by terrorists. They are cowering in a bunker somewhere.

If there is a time to start shooting this is it.

Mumbles · 6th January 2021, 01:37 PM

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop

Kellyanne Conway tweets

@KellyannePolls
STOP. Just STOP. Peace. Law and Order. Safety for All

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop

Ted Cruz tweets

@tedcruz
Violence is always unacceptable. Even when passions run high.

Anyone engaged in violence—especially against law enforcement—should be fully prosecuted.

God bless the Capitol Police and the honorable men & women of law enforcement who show great courage keeping all of us safe.

Leopards, faces, etc.

Dragon · 6th January 2021, 01:39 PM

Originally Posted by alfaniner

I'm going to go out on a limb and say Trump will be out by Friday.

Voluntarily, "voluntarily" after a visit by senior republicans or via section 4 of the 25th Amendent?

kookbreaker · 6th January 2021, 01:41 PM

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop

Kellyanne Conway tweets

@KellyannePolls
STOP. Just STOP. Peace. Law and Order. Safety for All

A bow and arrow against the lightning.

timhau · 6th January 2021, 01:42 PM

Originally Posted by CNN

Multiple officers injured in the mob violence
From CNN's Pamela Brown and Noah Gray

Multiple officers have been injured with at least one transported to the hospital, multiple sources tell CNN.

Pro-Trump rioters stormed the US Capitol earlier today, where members of Congress were meeting to certify President-elect Joe Biden's win.

That's from their live feed.

Ladewig · 6th January 2021, 01:42 PM

Originally Posted by MRC_Hans

I think his followers will be seriously seep off after a time. I mean, how will he hold rallies without a campaign staff? Security? Who will let him a venue without up-front payment? Will the news cover him, once he is no longer president and has nothing sensible to say? (He never had, but the POTUS speaking nonsense is newsworthy in itself)

Hans

Why not?

Before he was president they covered him even though he had nothing sensible to say.

For years CNN let him call in and ramble on about shocking Birther evidence he was really close to releasing. Really, really close. And really, really shocking.

TragicMonkey · 6th January 2021, 01:43 PM

Originally Posted by Dragon

Voluntarily, "voluntarily" after a visit by senior republicans or via section 4 of the 25th Amendent?

If anybody has any sense it'll be a relapse of Covid infection and he'll be reported to be in an induced coma until his sad passing away without recovering consciousness in early February.

Captain_Swoop · 6th January 2021, 01:48 PM

ANADOLU AGENCY (ENG) tweets

@anadoluagency
#BREAKING Turkey invites all parties in US to use moderation, common sense to overcome this domestic political crisis

Turkey concerned over developments in US, urges calm and lawful solution to problems, says parliament head

Captain_Swoop · 6th January 2021, 01:49 PM

White House Press Secretary Kayleigh McEnany:

"At President Trump’s direction, the National Guard is on the way along with other federal protective services. We reiterate President Trump’s call against violence and to remain peaceful."

6th January 2021, 12:41 PM	#82
dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sacramento Posts: 50,334	Originally Posted by Checkmite It's literally the crowd from Trump's rally a couple of hours ago. It's the selfsame group of people. And Trump is still egging them on.
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6th January 2021, 12:42 PM	#84
timhau NWO Litter Technician Join Date: May 2004 Location: Looks like Finland. Smells like Finland. Quacks like Finland. Where the hell am I? Posts: 14,474	Originally Posted by Checkmite It's literally the crowd from Trump's rally a couple of hours ago. It's the selfsame group of people. Here you go again, citing facts as if they mattered.
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6th January 2021, 12:52 PM	#87
dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sacramento Posts: 50,334	Shoot the bastards.They are involved in a violent attempt to overthrow the government of the United States.
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6th January 2021, 12:53 PM	#88
dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sacramento Posts: 50,334	Mitt Romeny just called this "Insurrection". And Trump is doing this nothing.
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6th January 2021, 01:01 PM	#98
thaiboxerken Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 31,711	Apparently, the national guard isn't authorized to be there because DC isn't a state.
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6th January 2021, 12:41 PM	#81
Captain_Swoop Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 31,912	Pictures of guards in chamber with weapons drawn covering the doors.

6th January 2021, 12:45 PM	#85
Captain_Swoop Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 31,912	They’re in the chamber. One is up on the dais yelling “Trump won that election!”

6th January 2021, 12:47 PM	#86
Captain_Swoop Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 31,912	Protestors on all floors going door to door around the offices.

6th January 2021, 12:53 PM	#90
Minoosh Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 12,239	Originally Posted by kookbreaker Police were able to tear gas and riot shield actual peaceful protestors so Trump could stand in front of a church and hold a bible upside down. Now suddenly the police are useless. CNN keeps cutting to small columns of cops and handfuls of police vehicles that are totally ineffective and not doing anything. I wouldn't necessarily draw that conclusion based on a video clip. I imagine the rules of engagement here are pretty strict. People have been shot for less than the MAGA idiots are doing but I think "no fatalities" is a pretty big priority.

6th January 2021, 12:55 PM	#91
Minoosh Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 12,239	Originally Posted by dudalb Shoot the bastards.They are involved in a violent attempt to overthrow the government of the United States. Gorilla tranquilizer would be OK with me.

6th January 2021, 12:56 PM	#92
Captain_Swoop Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 31,912	Rep. Dan Kildee tweets @RepDanKildee I am in the House Chambers. We have been instructed to lie down on the floor and put on our gas masks. Chamber security and Capitol Police have their guns drawn as protesters bang on the front door of the chamber. This is not a protest. This is an attack on America.

6th January 2021, 12:57 PM	#93
Captain_Swoop Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 31,912	There is video of a woman covered in blood being taken out of the Capitol on a stretcher

6th January 2021, 12:58 PM	#94
Minoosh Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 12,239	Originally Posted by dudalb Mitt Romeny just called this "Insurrection". And Trump is doing this nothing. Nonsense - he's probably tweeting his support. What's next? Hostages?

6th January 2021, 12:59 PM	#96
Captain_Swoop Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 31,912	Garrett Haake (NBC) tweets @GarrettHaake Two sources familiar tell me that @SpeakerPelosi & @MayorBowser have asked for the national guard to come to Capitol Hill to clear rioters. One of those sources says DOD has not yet approved change-of-mission for the DC guard.

6th January 2021, 01:00 PM	#97
Captain_Swoop Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 31,912	So there you have it, the National Guard were only there to gas Black Lives Matter protestors ... but won't come and help when the seat of government is invaded???

6th January 2021, 01:02 PM	#99
timhau NWO Litter Technician Join Date: May 2004 Location: Looks like Finland. Smells like Finland. Quacks like Finland. Where the hell am I? Posts: 14,474	Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop Garrett Haake (NBC) tweets @GarrettHaake Two sources familiar tell me that @SpeakerPelosi & @MayorBowser have asked for the national guard to come to Capitol Hill to clear rioters. One of those sources says DOD has not yet approved change-of-mission for the DC guard. Quote: Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. Tell me how this doesn't fit.
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6th January 2021, 01:16 PM	#100
Bob001 Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: US of A Posts: 12,637	Originally Posted by thaiboxerken Apparently, the national guard isn't authorized to be there because DC isn't a state. D.C. has National Guard units which the Mayor activated and deployed elsewhere to deal with planned demonstrations. Apparently they need new orders approved by the Pentagon before they can go to the Capitol.

6th January 2021, 01:18 PM	#101
Bob001 Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: US of A Posts: 12,637	On the bright side, in many other countries police and troops would have opened up with machine guns. So far here, nobody's been killed, and only a few injuries have been reported.

6th January 2021, 01:23 PM	#102
Captain_Swoop Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 31,912	Originally Posted by Bob001 On the bright side, in many other countries police and troops would have opened up with machine guns. So far here, nobody's been killed, and only a few injuries have been reported. Yes because surrendering your government chambers to terrorists and evacuating the building is so much a better look.

6th January 2021, 01:26 PM	#103
Captain_Swoop Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 31,912	Kellyanne Conway tweets @KellyannePolls STOP. Just STOP. Peace. Law and Order. Safety for All

6th January 2021, 01:26 PM	#104
Captain_Swoop Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 31,912	Ted Cruz tweets @tedcruz Violence is always unacceptable. Even when passions run high. Anyone engaged in violence—especially against law enforcement—should be fully prosecuted. God bless the Capitol Police and the honorable men & women of law enforcement who show great courage keeping all of us safe.

6th January 2021, 01:29 PM	#105
Bob001 Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: US of A Posts: 12,637	Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop Yes because surrendering your government chambers to terrorists and evacuating the building is so much a better look. Vs. a massive death count? Yes, actually. Eventually all these people will be arrested and prosecuted.

6th January 2021, 01:29 PM	#106
Mader Levap Graduate Poster Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 1,576	Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop @tedcruz Violence is always unacceptable. Even when passions run high. Anyone engaged in violence—especially against law enforcement—should be fully prosecuted. God bless the Capitol Police and the honorable men & women of law enforcement who show great courage keeping all of us safe. Aw, it is so nice when we get this kind of word from people that worked hard for decades to get today's outcome.
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6th January 2021, 01:30 PM	#107
alfaniner Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Sorth Dakonsin Posts: 24,890	I'm going to go out on a limb and say Trump will be out by Friday.
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6th January 2021, 01:33 PM	#108
TragicMonkey Poisoned Waffles Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Monkey Posts: 59,508	I always knew this thing would end in total ********, I just didn't expect this would be the form it would take. I thought he'd start a war with Iran instead. I guess there's still time for that.
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6th January 2021, 01:34 PM	#109
ponderingturtle Orthogonal Vector Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 50,461	Originally Posted by TragicMonkey I always knew this thing would end in total ********, I just didn't expect this would be the form it would take. I thought he'd start a war with Iran instead. I guess there's still time for that. He could have and we just haven't heard about it yet.
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6th January 2021, 01:35 PM	#110
Armitage72 Philosopher Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 5,262	Originally Posted by Bob001 On the bright side, in many other countries police and troops would have opened up with machine guns. So far here, nobody's been killed, and only a few injuries have been reported. "Other than that, how was the play Mrs. Lincoln?"
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6th January 2021, 01:35 PM	#111
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6th January 2021, 01:36 PM	#112
Captain_Swoop Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 31,912	Originally Posted by Bob001 Vs. a massive death count? Yes, actually. Eventually all these people will be arrested and prosecuted. Your government was driven out of it's own chamber and seat of power by terrorists. They are cowering in a bunker somewhere. If there is a time to start shooting this is it.

6th January 2021, 01:37 PM	#113
Mumbles Philosopher Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 8,429	Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop Kellyanne Conway tweets @KellyannePolls STOP. Just STOP. Peace. Law and Order. Safety for All Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop Ted Cruz tweets @tedcruz Violence is always unacceptable. Even when passions run high. Anyone engaged in violence—especially against law enforcement—should be fully prosecuted. God bless the Capitol Police and the honorable men & women of law enforcement who show great courage keeping all of us safe. Leopards, faces, etc.
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6th January 2021, 01:39 PM	#114
Dragon Graduate Poster Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 1,593	Originally Posted by alfaniner I'm going to go out on a limb and say Trump will be out by Friday. Voluntarily, "voluntarily" after a visit by senior republicans or via section 4 of the 25th Amendent?
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6th January 2021, 01:41 PM	#115
kookbreaker Evil Fokker Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 13,176	Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop Kellyanne Conway tweets @KellyannePolls STOP. Just STOP. Peace. Law and Order. Safety for All A bow and arrow against the lightning.
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6th January 2021, 01:42 PM	#116
timhau NWO Litter Technician Join Date: May 2004 Location: Looks like Finland. Smells like Finland. Quacks like Finland. Where the hell am I? Posts: 14,474	Originally Posted by CNN Multiple officers injured in the mob violence From CNN's Pamela Brown and Noah Gray Multiple officers have been injured with at least one transported to the hospital, multiple sources tell CNN. Pro-Trump rioters stormed the US Capitol earlier today, where members of Congress were meeting to certify President-elect Joe Biden's win. That's from their live feed.
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6th January 2021, 01:42 PM	#117
Ladewig I lost an avatar bet. Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 28,041	Originally Posted by MRC_Hans I think his followers will be seriously seep off after a time. I mean, how will he hold rallies without a campaign staff? Security? Who will let him a venue without up-front payment? Will the news cover him, once he is no longer president and has nothing sensible to say? (He never had, but the POTUS speaking nonsense is newsworthy in itself) Hans Why not? Before he was president they covered him even though he had nothing sensible to say. For years CNN let him call in and ramble on about shocking Birther evidence he was really close to releasing. Really, really close. And really, really shocking.
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6th January 2021, 01:43 PM	#118
TragicMonkey Poisoned Waffles Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Monkey Posts: 59,508	Originally Posted by Dragon Voluntarily, "voluntarily" after a visit by senior republicans or via section 4 of the 25th Amendent? If anybody has any sense it'll be a relapse of Covid infection and he'll be reported to be in an induced coma until his sad passing away without recovering consciousness in early February.
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