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Old Yesterday, 09:39 AM   #2761
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Originally Posted by Stout View Post
But he left out the best part, canceling somebody is actually fun.
You're projecting again.
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Old Yesterday, 09:41 AM   #2762
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Originally Posted by Dr. Keith View Post
To return to the purpose of this thread, I’d like to point out another real life cancellation: the M&M Spokescandies have been canceled for no longer giving Tucker a boner.
Yeah, even by the standards of right-wing USAian whackjobbery that was weird.
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Old Yesterday, 10:01 AM   #2763
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Originally Posted by d4m10n View Post
Shouldn't private universities be expected to live up to their stated principles?
And when they don’t, then what?
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Old Yesterday, 10:04 AM   #2764
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Originally Posted by Stout View Post
A while ago I watched a documentary about this old timey Italian guy who used a telescope to prove the Earth actually revolved around the sun. This upset some sort of inquisition who found that idea contrary to and offensive against their belief system that the Earth was the center of all things to they heavily censored him.
Your abject lack of understanding of the events around the trial of Galileo Galilei matches that of pretty much everything else you've posted about here.
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Old Yesterday, 10:07 AM   #2765
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Originally Posted by d4m10n View Post
The faculty already gave us their reasons for asking Miller to step down.
I’m not seeing anything that precludes the possibility that there were other contributing factors.

Either way, I’m still unclear why you think you’re in a better position to judge the fairness of this than the faculty of the university. Could you please explain that?
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Old Yesterday, 10:17 AM   #2766
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Originally Posted by Stout View Post
A while ago I watched a documentary about this old timey Italian guy who used a telescope to prove the Earth actually revolved around the sun. This upset some sort of inquisition who found that idea contrary to and offensive against their belief system that the Earth was the center of all things to they heavily censored him.

If we take one of the names of the list posted in post 2747, John Stoddard, we can see the same sort of anti science parallel at play here. A minor cancellation for sure, like getting banned from Reddit for wrongthink but a case of wanting something that's true to not be true.

IIRC, the church didn't admit that they were the ones doing the anti-science wrongthink until several hundred years later.
Yes, the similarities between being forced to recant your beliefs under threat of torture and imprisonment and being removed from an email list are striking and chilling. Another flawless analogy from the “cancel culture” hand-wringers. No notes.
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Old Yesterday, 11:33 AM   #2767
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Originally Posted by johnny karate View Post
Yes, the similarities between being forced to recant your beliefs under threat of torture and imprisonment and being removed from an email list are striking and chilling. Another flawless analogy from the “cancel culture” hand-wringers. No notes.
That was a post on ideology and superstition vs reality and truth which I understand is a very difficult concept for cancel culture idealists. Fear not, we're on the path to a new enlightenment and shorty we'll enter a new age of reason.
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Old Yesterday, 12:04 PM   #2768
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Originally Posted by lionking View Post
Oh for goodness sake, if you don’t care one way or another, how on earth can you even have an opinion? You must live in Humpty Dumpty land.
You have just confirmed what I thought.... you do not understand that its possible for both to be true. You see the world in black and white.

Who's living in Humpty Dumpty land now?

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I can have the opinion that chips are better than crisps and still not care which I get with my sandwich.
Exactly! I can have opinions that...

- the Bengals will get to the Superbowl
- mustard is better than tomato ketchup on a hotdog
- the 2013 Nissan X-Trail is better than the 2014 model
- Labor will win the next Australian election
- you won't understand any what I am saying here

...but not care one way or the other about any of the above.
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Old Yesterday, 02:00 PM   #2769
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Originally Posted by johnny karate View Post
Either way, I’m still unclear why you think you’re in a better position to judge the fairness of this than the faculty of the university.
I'm not about to cede my sense of fairness to them, especially given the self evident weakness of their stated argument. If they had argued in favor of restitution or reparation for Erika López Prater, that would have been constructive and furthered the stated goals of the university. Instead, in keeping with the spirit of the age, they called for yet another unnecessary cancellation.
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