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25th May 2017, 03:14 AM | #121 |
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Yeah, it was a little annoying though. Shermer has been on Rogan's show before and they got on very well. Rogan even spoke well of him in later podcasts as well. So it was surprising to see how he treated him in this episode.
Honestly I like Joe Rogan's podcast and watch a lot of episodes. Generally while Joe can sometimes be credulous or biased, he is a good host, relatively honest, actually interested in the truth, etc. But while I tried I couldn't even finish this episode because it was just getting to aggravating. I made it about an hour and three quarters through and decided it wasn't worth continuing. I enjoy trying to understand how people who see things differently than me come to their viewpoint. Sometimes they even change my mind which is a cool thing to happen. But this was just bullying. |
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*^Is offering testimony having not witnessed the entire event.^*
This was not a debate it was a discussion, wherein Shermer AGREES with Hancock, and at the end says he is both well research and well reasoned. --- -He wasn't up to it -He didn't have all his fact -He's not our best skeptic -Being faced with facts isn't a place where skeptics bode well -How can skeptics be expected to speak intelligently during a debate OR, and hear me out... Shermer is an intelligent, reasonable, logical person who heard and saw facts that changed his mind? |
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You're missing the point of my post. If there was a "reversion back" to hunter gatherers, then there must have been hunter gatherers prior to the alleged "higher forms". We have ample evidence of the primitive artefacts made over millions of years by these earlier hunter gatherers.
So where are the later advanced artefacts of the civilisation that was capable of creating "higher forms"? |
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I think Hancock watched Planet of the Apes one too many times
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So from Egypt we have only "difficult to erect" pyramids? That's it? None of the mass of other artefacts that all civilisations necessarily generate, from combs and pins to long inscriptions on the walls of public buildings? But we do have these other things, heaps of them, from ancient civilisations.
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It was only on the last page that you conceded that Wally Wallington showed that one man could erect a monolith. Now you're trying to backtrack on that?
And how could they have come before the hunter-gatherers? Homo sapiens is about 100,000 years old, about 40,000 years ago entered Eurasia. How do you think they lived all the time before the invention of agriculture? |
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Also, it's quite fallacious to call Shermer the spokesperson for all posters here. And dishonest. Because he isn't.
Even if he were, science isn't some medieval trial by combat. And where did Shermer present himself as an expert on archaology, astronomy and climate change? I must have missed that. Or it's another dishonest assertion. |
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This was not a 'debate,' it was a discussion wherein each party was allowed to speak at length, without restraint.
There were no 'rules' enacted or implied. He did not 'fail to win,' it was a discussion and a presentation of facts, after which Shermer admits Hancock and his associate were both well reasoned and well researched. He did not 'lose his mind'...or become hypnotized by magic. The exchange is in no way as you describe it. |
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The OP stated that Hancock "wiped the floor with Shermer", so I am sorry that I got it wrong. There are some disadvantages with not seeing the video that is the subject.
OK, Shermer admits that Hancock and his associate were both well reasoned and well researched, and because of that you want us to concede that crank archaeology is true? I still have better things to do with my life than watching hours of discussions, but you have got me interested, so if you can find a transcript of the discussion - or even just a presentation of the "modern" research that Hancock has produced that is supposed to turn his crackpottery into science, I'll be willing to read it. |
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Should I claim that skeptics have 'ran' from this topic because they refused to address the research provided?
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