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Evidence that Hunter flew 2500 miles with the computers?
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In the recording, John Paul said Hunter brought in three laptops. The first laptop was a post 2016 model and John Paul did not check it in because he knew that model of laptop would not allow the data to be recovered because of the water damage and the type of hardware within. He sent it home with Hunter. The second laptop also had water damage and it had keyboard issues only. John Paul gave Hunter a plug-in keyboard to take home with him. Hunter took the laptop and keyboard home, it was never left at the store. The third laptop was left there. This is the laptop John Paul made the hard drive copies of and this is also the laptop the FBI confiscated. This is the laptop that contains the information given to Rudy Giuliani.
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I don't think Bill Barr has committed any crimes.
Ruined the status of the Justice Department and committed, oh, a dozen or more impeachable acts. Maybe his partisan activities could violate the Hatch Act, but not in the obvious ways of, say, the Interior Dept's recent propaganda. He's a terrible son of a bitch, but I don't know what he could be charged with. 'Course, there's an awful lot of laws I don't know, I s'pose. |
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Last year? Funny how he's not in jail yet...
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#1490 |
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I know you don't exactly math, but Hunter lived 2500+ miles away. I know physical location is evidence for those of us in the real world, but what sort of evidence do you require?
Jebus, it wasn't his signature. The signature on the repair request and his legal signature have been posted side by side already. How much more evidence do you need? This is shooting fish in a barrel now. Here, in an effort to not make you look like a blithering idiot, let's stick to only your preferred sources ok? Was the repair guy able to contact the person who couldn't forge Hunter's signature? No? Huh, you'd think a guy who had already spent $85 in parts to do a $75 job would contact the guy who authorized the repair. Hahahahahaahahhahahhaa Hahahahahah Hahahahahah Hahahahahah! You're demanding proof of what your star and only witness claimed? OMG, I'm so glad I'm not as gullible as you are! Which MacBook was John Paul Luc Picard authorized to repair? Oh, none of them? Huh, so we're back to Hunter flying 2500+ miles to find a guy who is not only not authorized to do the work, but by his own testimony unable to do the work. Instead of going to an Apple shop less than 10 miles from his house? My god does one have to be a special kind of stupid to still buy Giuliani's story! The part where Deeptuck's useful idiots fell on their faces? Oh, pal, I'm gonna keep on looking and laughing at the "see above" for weeks. Let me refresh yours: 3 + 2 = 5. You claim 3 + 2, but say 5 is a lie. In fairness to you, let's agree all the Guiliani and Ukrainian sourced (but I repeat myself) laptops are a lie. That leaves us with... Zero laptops. Dang-it. And you were so close! |
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Seems a little strange to me that the FBI would confiscate the laptop and backup HD and have no issue with the shop owner keeping a copy for himself considering that the original belonged to someone else. Is the FBI in the habit of leaving copies of sensitive and/or criminal data with potential witnesses to do with as they please?
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Jean Luc Picard claimed that he made a copy of the laptop before he contacted the FBI. He also claimed that no he made a copy after contacting the FBI because they asked him to, what with his demonstrable lack of Apple authorized skill set. See, a blind unauthorized repair guy is head and shoulders above the FBI computer guys.
So, Jean Claude Van Damme apparently made something like 3 copies of the laptop, both before he contacted the FBI, after he contacted the FBI, and nuh uh he never contacted the FBI but he made a copy so they don't Seth Rich him. |
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Maybe I should start a go fund me for 5 million bucks to get the real hunter hard drive from Ukraine
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The laptops could've been in Delaware already? He was still pretty hot for his dead brother's wife at that time, according to some of the texts I've been reading. He could've flown in the town to bang one out. He could've been there on business travel. He could've been there arranging business to make more money off of his daddy's name. Until you provide evidence that he was in California on that day, you're just blowing smoke.
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There's a difference between not leaving any contact info and John Paul not being able to contact Hunter, right? In the recorded interview, a reporter asks John Paul why he didn't reach out to someone in the Biden family after Hunter did not come back and pick up the laptop. He says it's not standard procedure for them. They get multiple points of contact when they fill out the paperwork and when the repair is complete they make every effort to reach out and contact the customer. After 90 days they recycle the computer. Why do you assume John Paul did not try to contact Hunter Biden?
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A reporter asked him "why didn't you save the security footage," to which he responded, "because it was just a customer." The reporter asking questions implies that the CCTV footage is stored on his servers for two months, and he said by the time he became suspicious of what was on the laptop the recordings were already off of the server.
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which had encryption which was broken by who. Rudy claimed that hunters icloud account was hacked and that however most of the data on the drive was still encrypted. Thats probably why the hard drive cost 5 million.
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#1499 |
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Tucker knows Trump is going down.
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Mac Isaac's lawyer has issued a detailed timeline to clarify misunderstandings about what happened.
A link to the document can be found here. Mac Isaac's father tried to give a copy of the hard drive to the FBI in mid-July, they turned him away but contacted him in mid-October asking for a copy. Hunter came back two days after dropping the laptop off with a hard drive to transfer the recovered data onto. |
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In the delaware.com print story he said it is standard procedure to contact the owner.
In the delaware.com print story he declines to answer the question of whether he did or didn't. I have listened to the whole interview, but don't want to replay the hourlong thing to catch this bit. If you are willing and can get a timestamp I'll look. I listened to the audio after I read the delaware.com story and didn't catch this alleged discrepancy, and I'm trained to spot that kind of stuff. Could have missed it though. |
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"Founded by John Soloman [sic]". Enough said, really. But for those who are unaware of Solomon's work: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_S...tor)#Reception
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Maybe, probably.
But: An October Surprise à la Comey letter doesn't require much: a real though not very significant fact (Weiner's laptop with Huma's emails on it), a rogue FBI agent in NYC threatening to leak it, Comey thinking that Trump will lose anyway, so preempts the leak. No big conspiracy needing dozens of acolytes, the perfect October Surprise. Going after Biden votes will require ... well, that depends on the results. If it is close, and they need to swap one or two states, yes, maybe Barr will be able to marshal a few US attorneys (or GOP state/district attorneys) to strategically dispute presumed Biden votes, and then count on the federal courts and SCOTUS to finish the job. If it is not close, and they need to swap 4,5,6 states, using a different ad hoc rationale in each of them, that becomes a conspiracy involving quite a few people. Possible? Yes. Seems unlikely though. |
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I see, now you are claiming he routinely leaves 3 laptops in Delaware, where he doesn't live or work, "for business"? Do you have any experience with business people or with laptops in general?
Also, it's actually incumbent on you and your side to prove Hunter was in that repair shop that day, not my job to prove he wasn't. I see. They're plainly not the same, but you want to assume they are until an expert tells you they aren't? Given how quickly you swallow John Isaac Peter Paul and Mary's claim to be the top guy at Apple, I would have thought you'd accept any claim. I'm going by the fact that he didn't leave contact info as evidence that he refused to leave contact info. I get that this may be confusing to you, but it's pretty basic stuff. In other interviews, John Claude claims he didn't know who the laptop belonged to, he assumed it was Hunter Biden's because of a sticker for a charity that Hunter did not work for was on the laptop. That's a strange claim to make if he had Hunter's contact information. Because when directly asked that question, John Luke said "no comment." Not "yes I called him". His timeline of when he became suspicious varies wildly depending on the telling. His original claim was that he became suspicious because of the sticker, but he also claims he inadvertently saw emails and pics that made him suspicious while recovering the drive. And both of those occurred well before the 2 months had lapsed. Are you not familiar with the concept of companies authorizing properly trained and certified people to work on their products? I doubt that, so playing dumb is not helping your case. Nope. John Paul Isaac Bob Fred claimed his "medical condition" means he can't see well enough to see a person standing 2 or 3 feet away. That bad eyesight means he can't see well enough to open up the guts of a laptop either. We both agree that Guiliani doesn't have anything originally belonging to Hunter. The hard drive Giuliani got from the Ukraine by way of a blind Delaware guy, plus the original 3 laptops he claimed plus the 2 more laptops he claims Derkach has still equals at least 5 though. I'm still trying to find the article about the one Hunter supposedly left with a psychiatrist or psychologist. Web searches for that are overwhelmed with articles about how stupid Giuliani's laptop claims are, unfortunately. |
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Quick question as I've not been following the detail of this but I'm presuming the repair guy had asked for Hunter's laptop password and his if his icloud password and had him remove two factor authentication?
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The Giuliani led Hunter Biden thing was preceded by a fake "intelligence" document produced by a fake "intelligence firm" called Typhoon Investigations, written by the non existing security analyst Martin Aspen.
The document asserts an elaborate conspiracy theory involving Joe Biden's son and business in China. It (obviously) went viral on the right wing web.
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Aha! I found the 6th laptop story!
"At this point, Birkenfeld seemed to recognize how surreal this all sounds: that Hunter Biden would not only professionally see but live with a psychiatrist in a state hundreds of miles from his home—a psychiatrist who accused his dad of having dementia—that he confided intricate details of international corruption during these therapy sessions, that he would leave YET ANOTHER LAPTOP at this TV doctor’s residence; and that the DEA would surreptitiously seize that laptop right when Senate investigators were swarming." |
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Wow, yeah.
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But I will have some of the excess laptops.
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I like how the only two people still taking this seriously have been reduced to "Okay but do you have evidence that the thing I have presented no evidence for not true?"
Hunter Biden's laptop is in my garage right next to the invisible dragon it seems. |
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I was just thinking about how uninteresting this story really is, deep down. If Hunter Biden were instead named Hunter Smith, nobody would have heard about it. It wouldn't have even made the local news in a sleepy town.
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