CNN does it again.....

dudalb · 25th May 2023, 03:12 PM

Announced a GOP Town Meeting with Mike Pence June.
After all, went so well the last time.......

God, Chris Licht is an idiot . Lets of the same exact thing in the same exact way and somehow hope for different results.
All it will result in is MSNBC getting even more new viewers.

BTW I suspect Pence is a sloppy second; I think they wanted De Santis but De Santis is simply not making any appreances on mainstream media; he is even not making any appreances outside of news footage with Fox.

angrysoba · 25th May 2023, 03:49 PM

Then I would suggest DeSantis is the idiot. It makes sense for a candidate to get as much exposure as they can.

Let’s face it, all the cable channels are garbage. But at least they are watched by elderly voters.

dudalb · 25th May 2023, 05:38 PM

Originally Posted by angrysoba

Then I would suggest DeSantis is the idiot. It makes sense for a candidate to get as much exposure as they can.

Let’s face it, all the cable channels are garbage. But at least they are watched by elderly voters.

De Santis, for some reason beyond me, had decided not to use the norman news media in his campagin.

IMHO he is DOA. Watch as the GOP leaderhsip scrambles to find a new "Not Trump" candidate.

Apathia · 25th May 2023, 05:59 PM

CNN was already in the sewer.
Remember Kellyanne Conway?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hlt3rA-oDao&t=4s

varwoche · 25th May 2023, 06:33 PM

I fail to see why CNN has been so roundly criticized over the Trump town hall. Conducting such affairs makes perfect sense.

It's not CNN's fault that the leading GOP candidate is a racist, fascist, lying, mysoginist, sexual abusing, dictator-loving, CT foisting, grifting, infantile megalomaniac. It's not their job to filter out viable canidates despite how deplorable they are.

dudalb · 25th May 2023, 06:43 PM

Originally Posted by varwoche

I fail to see why CNN has been so roundly criticized over the Trump town hall. Conducting such affairs makes perfect sense.

It's not CNN's fault that the leading GOP candidate is a racist, fascist, lying, mysoginist, sexual abusing, dictator-loving, CT foisting, grifting, infantile megalomaniac. It's not their job to filter out viable canidates despite how deplorable they are.

But it was CNN's decision to pack the meeting with Trump supporters, and use a journalist who allowed Trump to walk all over her.
Not to mention they should have invited all the current GOP candidates.
Sorry, not letting CNN off the hook for this. They deserve every bit of criticism they have got.

Armitage72 · 25th May 2023, 06:44 PM

Originally Posted by varwoche

I fail to see why CNN has been so roundly criticized over the Trump town hall. Conducting such affairs makes perfect sense.

It's not CNN's fault that the leading GOP candidate is a racist, fascist, lying, mysoginist, sexual abusing, dictator-loving, CT foisting, grifting, infantile megalomaniac. It's not their job to filter out viable canidates despite how deplorable they are.

One problem was that they allowed the Trump supporters in the audience to cheer while insisting that his detractors stay quiet.

alfaniner · 25th May 2023, 07:11 PM

Nobody is going to care about or watch the Pence Town Hall.

Regnad Kcin · 25th May 2023, 07:14 PM

Dang, Mike Pence!

Stacyhs · 25th May 2023, 07:18 PM

Originally Posted by alfaniner

Nobody is going to care about or watch the Pence Town Hall.

Agreed. He is going nowhere. Even if Trump doesn't get the nomination, Pence lost any hope of getting the MAGA crowd on Jan. 6

varwoche · 25th May 2023, 07:39 PM

Originally Posted by dudalb

But it was CNN's decision to pack the meeting with Trump supporters, and use a journalist who allowed Trump to walk all over her.
Not to mention they should have invited all the current GOP candidates.
Sorry, not letting CNN off the hook for this. They deserve every bit of criticism they have got.

Trump presents a difficult challenge for any journalist. And I'm not so sure this characterization is accurate.

Originally Posted by Armitage72

One problem was that they allowed the Trump supporters in the audience to cheer while insisting that his detractors stay quiet.

Valid point.

Segnosaur · 25th May 2023, 09:27 PM

Originally Posted by varwoche

I fail to see why CNN has been so roundly criticized over the Trump town hall. Conducting such affairs makes perfect sense.

It's not CNN's fault that the leading GOP candidate is a racist, fascist, lying, mysoginist, sexual abusing, dictator-loving, CT foisting, grifting, infantile megalomaniac. It's not their job to filter out viable canidates despite how deplorable they are.

Its not CNNs job to "filter out candidates".

But, as a news organization, it is CNNs duty to provide accurate facts to its viewers. It was obvious that Trump, being well, Trump, was going to say lots of things that were incorrect, and with such rapid delivery that it would have been impossible to properly fact check all his incorrect statements.

If you must provide airtime to Trump in a "town hall" format, don't do it live, tape it. Allow commentators to dissect any and all of his lies (pausing the "town hall" if necessary.) Or just stick to carrying short segments of his appearances in other venues (again taking the time to properly fact check.)

The Great Zaganza · 25th May 2023, 10:13 PM

Disagree.
CNN's job is to make a program that attracts the kind of audiences their advertisers want.
Trump's and Pence's supporters are not really Grade A in this regard.

Mojo · 25th May 2023, 11:02 PM

Originally Posted by dudalb

De Santis, for some reason beyond me, had decided not to use the norman news media in his campagin.

Perhaps he could give an interview to the Anglo-Saxon Chronicle.

quadraginta · 25th May 2023, 11:24 PM

Originally Posted by varwoche

I fail to see why CNN has been so roundly criticized over the Trump town hall. Conducting such affairs makes perfect sense.

It's not CNN's fault that the leading GOP candidate is a racist, fascist, lying, mysoginist, sexual abusing, dictator-loving, CT foisting, grifting, infantile megalomaniac. It's not their job to filter out viable canidates despite how deplorable they are.

You left out 'solipsistic narcissist'. (Which may be redundant.)

Segnosaur · 26th May 2023, 07:40 AM

Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza

Disagree.
CNN's job is to make a program that attracts the kind of audiences their advertisers want.
Trump's and Pence's supporters are not really Grade A in this regard.

Well, TECHNICALLY the job of any company is to maximize profit for its shareholders.

But, society treats news organizations differently than (for example) car manufacturers or department stores. We give them "freedom of the press" protections, special access to our leaders, etc., so I don't think we're out of line in expecting their results to be different (i.e. that they should adhere to the idea of accuracy.) And earning a profit/attracting viewers is tied in to the type of accuracy they provide. (i.e. if they are seen as wrong all the time, they may lose viewership and profits.)

If they don't want to provide accurate information, then they shouldn't be calling themselves a "news" organization.

DuvalHMFIC · 26th May 2023, 07:49 AM

Mike Pence is 2023's Dan Quayle. They even share the same number of syllables in their name!

JoeMorgue · 26th May 2023, 07:49 AM

I miss the days when misspelling a word would forever tank your political asperations.

RoboTimbo · 26th May 2023, 08:15 AM

Those heady days of "potatoe" or shouting "Yee Haw!" or wearing a brown suit. When Republicans had actual character or could mime it well enough to pass.

JoeMorgue · 26th May 2023, 08:22 AM

Things that used to ruin politicians:

- Misspelling a root vegetable
- Looking stupid in a tank helmet.
- Being sweaty at a debate.
- Having a weird scream.

Things that don't ruin politicians now.

- Openly attempting a coup.
- Openly making Nazi gestures.
- Being racist.
- Mocking disable people.
- Bragging about sexually assaulting underage girls.

RoboTimbo · 26th May 2023, 08:37 AM

They were waiting all this time for someone to give them permission. And brother, did they get it.

RoboTimbo · 26th May 2023, 08:40 AM

Originally Posted by RoboTimbo

When Republicans had actual character or could mime it well enough to pass.

I could be misremembering this part.

d4m10n · 26th May 2023, 09:10 AM

Originally Posted by dudalb

Announced a GOP Town Meeting with Mike Pence

I'm not saying he's a likely frontrunner, but he is a former VP and probably GOP primary voters should hear his message. This is especially true if he finds some way to convincingly differentiate himself from the current prohibitive frontrunner.

JoeMorgue · 26th May 2023, 09:12 AM

I don't envy the media's balancing act of "Don't give them any attention" and "Don't let who they are and what they are doing be hidden."

varwoche · 26th May 2023, 09:19 AM

Originally Posted by DuvalHMFIC

Mike Pence is 2023's Dan Quayle. They even share the same number of syllables in their name!

Though Quayle never put on this sort of surreal display, as if a scene from Austin Powers.

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I AGREE

crescent · 26th May 2023, 09:19 AM

MS NBC is nice.

Donal · 26th May 2023, 09:40 AM

We're in this mess due in no small part to their abdicating their responsibility

JoeMorgue · 26th May 2023, 09:52 AM

"If one side says it is raining and the other side says it is not, it is not the new's job to 'report on both sides of the controversy.' It is the new's job to open a window and check."

Because the Right has totally bought in on the "Everything is a bias, there is no difference between something being wrong and it being unpopular" thing.

d4m10n · 26th May 2023, 11:11 AM

Originally Posted by JoeMorgue

"If one side says it is raining and the other side says it is not, it is not the news' job to 'report on both sides of the controversy.' It is the news' job to open a window and check."

That's a fine aphorism and all, but it doesn't tell us whether any of the GOP candidates should be given a platform to either debate or field questions on CNN.

JoeMorgue · 26th May 2023, 11:29 AM

Originally Posted by d4m10n

That's a fine aphorism and all, but it doesn't tell us whether any of the GOP candidates should be given a platform to either debate or field questions on CNN.

I mean surely we don't want to "Cancel" anyone...

d4m10n · 26th May 2023, 11:43 AM

"We" don't but surely some do.

Trebuchet · 26th May 2023, 12:09 PM

Gotta wonder if they'll prevent Trump supporters from booing Pence!

dudalb · 26th May 2023, 01:04 PM

Originally Posted by Armitage72

One problem was that they allowed the Trump supporters in the audience to cheer while insisting that his detractors stay quiet.

This.
If CNN had done a GOP candidates town meeting, and inviting all the annunced candidates to participates, there would not be a problem. But the basically gave Trump 90 minutes for a rally. That is what the deserved criticism is about.
I agree that the "Ignore Trump" theory that is going around is silly, though.

Orphia Nay · 26th May 2023, 07:11 PM

Originally Posted by Trebuchet

Gotta wonder if they'll prevent Trump supporters from booing Pence!

If CNN are being consistent and have planned this series of town halls at all, the audience will be supportive of the candidates and/or not allowed to boo, like during the Trump one.

TragicMonkey · 26th May 2023, 10:32 PM

Originally Posted by Orphia Nay

If CNN are being consistent and have planned this series of town halls at all, the audience will be supportive of the candidates and/or not allowed to boo, like during the Trump one.

Some of them were actually saying "Boo-urns".

Orphia Nay · 26th May 2023, 11:11 PM

Originally Posted by TragicMonkey

Some of them were actually saying "Boo-urns".

Mojo · 26th May 2023, 11:47 PM

Originally Posted by JoeMorgue

"If one side says it is raining and the other side says it is not, it is not the new's job to 'report on both sides of the controversy.' It is the new's job to open a window and check."

Because the Right has totally bought in on the "Everything is a bias, there is no difference between something being wrong and it being unpopular" thing.

Remember when the postmodern "all narratives are equally valid" ******** was supposed to be a left-wing thing?

dudalb · 30th May 2023, 04:20 PM

Originally Posted by Mojo

Perhaps he could give an interview to the Anglo-Saxon Chronicle.

I get the joke, I also have a copy of the real Angle Saxon Chronicle. I doubt the GOP candiates could understand it, ev en in translation.

gnome · 30th May 2023, 07:16 PM

Originally Posted by JoeMorgue

I don't envy the media's balancing act of "Don't give them any attention" and "Don't let who they are and what they are doing be hidden."

How difficult is it not to make it a softball event and allow cheering but hush detractors? I don't buy the "This is hard" argument in this case.

Sherkeu · 30th May 2023, 11:54 PM

CNN is tanking. Democratic politics is boring. Biden is boring. Kamala is boring. Trump gets ratings. Ratings get ad dollars.

Pence is boring, but if he is available and can speak...listen to how many times he is questioned with the word 'trump' in it, and you'll see why they agreed to him. trump is ratings.

Like it or hate it....Do the math.

25th May 2023, 03:12 PM	#1
dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sacramento Posts: 58,605	CNN does it again..... Announced a GOP Town Meeting with Mike Pence June. After all, went so well the last time....... God, Chris Licht is an idiot . Lets of the same exact thing in the same exact way and somehow hope for different results. All it will result in is MSNBC getting even more new viewers. BTW I suspect Pence is a sloppy second; I think they wanted De Santis but De Santis is simply not making any appreances on mainstream media; he is even not making any appreances outside of news footage with Fox.
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25th May 2023, 03:49 PM	#2
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25th May 2023, 05:38 PM	#3
dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sacramento Posts: 58,605	Originally Posted by angrysoba Then I would suggest DeSantis is the idiot. It makes sense for a candidate to get as much exposure as they can. Let’s face it, all the cable channels are garbage. But at least they are watched by elderly voters. De Santis, for some reason beyond me, had decided not to use the norman news media in his campagin. IMHO he is DOA. Watch as the GOP leaderhsip scrambles to find a new "Not Trump" candidate.
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25th May 2023, 05:59 PM	#4
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25th May 2023, 06:33 PM	#5
varwoche Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Puget Sound Posts: 16,630	I fail to see why CNN has been so roundly criticized over the Trump town hall. Conducting such affairs makes perfect sense. It's not CNN's fault that the leading GOP candidate is a racist, fascist, lying, mysoginist, sexual abusing, dictator-loving, CT foisting, grifting, infantile megalomaniac. It's not their job to filter out viable canidates despite how deplorable they are.
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25th May 2023, 06:43 PM	#6
dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sacramento Posts: 58,605	Originally Posted by varwoche I fail to see why CNN has been so roundly criticized over the Trump town hall. Conducting such affairs makes perfect sense. It's not CNN's fault that the leading GOP candidate is a racist, fascist, lying, mysoginist, sexual abusing, dictator-loving, CT foisting, grifting, infantile megalomaniac. It's not their job to filter out viable canidates despite how deplorable they are. But it was CNN's decision to pack the meeting with Trump supporters, and use a journalist who allowed Trump to walk all over her. Not to mention they should have invited all the current GOP candidates. Sorry, not letting CNN off the hook for this. They deserve every bit of criticism they have got.
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25th May 2023, 06:44 PM	#7
Armitage72 Philosopher Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 7,824	Originally Posted by varwoche I fail to see why CNN has been so roundly criticized over the Trump town hall. Conducting such affairs makes perfect sense. It's not CNN's fault that the leading GOP candidate is a racist, fascist, lying, mysoginist, sexual abusing, dictator-loving, CT foisting, grifting, infantile megalomaniac. It's not their job to filter out viable canidates despite how deplorable they are. One problem was that they allowed the Trump supporters in the audience to cheer while insisting that his detractors stay quiet.

25th May 2023, 07:11 PM	#8
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25th May 2023, 07:14 PM	#9
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25th May 2023, 07:18 PM	#10
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 30,298	Originally Posted by alfaniner Nobody is going to care about or watch the Pence Town Hall. Agreed. He is going nowhere. Even if Trump doesn't get the nomination, Pence lost any hope of getting the MAGA crowd on Jan. 6

25th May 2023, 07:39 PM	#11
varwoche Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Puget Sound Posts: 16,630	Originally Posted by dudalb But it was CNN's decision to pack the meeting with Trump supporters, and use a journalist who allowed Trump to walk all over her. Not to mention they should have invited all the current GOP candidates. Sorry, not letting CNN off the hook for this. They deserve every bit of criticism they have got. Trump presents a difficult challenge for any journalist. And I'm not so sure this characterization is accurate. Originally Posted by Armitage72 One problem was that they allowed the Trump supporters in the audience to cheer while insisting that his detractors stay quiet. Valid point.
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25th May 2023, 09:27 PM	#12
Segnosaur Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Canada, eh? Posts: 19,893	Originally Posted by varwoche I fail to see why CNN has been so roundly criticized over the Trump town hall. Conducting such affairs makes perfect sense. It's not CNN's fault that the leading GOP candidate is a racist, fascist, lying, mysoginist, sexual abusing, dictator-loving, CT foisting, grifting, infantile megalomaniac. It's not their job to filter out viable canidates despite how deplorable they are. Its not CNNs job to "filter out candidates". But, as a news organization, it is CNNs duty to provide accurate facts to its viewers. It was obvious that Trump, being well, Trump, was going to say lots of things that were incorrect, and with such rapid delivery that it would have been impossible to properly fact check all his incorrect statements. If you must provide airtime to Trump in a "town hall" format, don't do it live, tape it. Allow commentators to dissect any and all of his lies (pausing the "town hall" if necessary.) Or just stick to carrying short segments of his appearances in other venues (again taking the time to properly fact check.)
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25th May 2023, 10:13 PM	#13
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Mojo Mostly harmless Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Nor Flanden Posts: 37,079	Originally Posted by dudalb De Santis, for some reason beyond me, had decided not to use the norman news media in his campagin. Perhaps he could give an interview to the Anglo-Saxon Chronicle.
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26th May 2023, 07:40 AM	#16
Segnosaur Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Canada, eh? Posts: 19,893	Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza Disagree. CNN's job is to make a program that attracts the kind of audiences their advertisers want. Trump's and Pence's supporters are not really Grade A in this regard. Well, TECHNICALLY the job of any company is to maximize profit for its shareholders. But, society treats news organizations differently than (for example) car manufacturers or department stores. We give them "freedom of the press" protections, special access to our leaders, etc., so I don't think we're out of line in expecting their results to be different (i.e. that they should adhere to the idea of accuracy.) And earning a profit/attracting viewers is tied in to the type of accuracy they provide. (i.e. if they are seen as wrong all the time, they may lose viewership and profits.) If they don't want to provide accurate information, then they shouldn't be calling themselves a "news" organization.
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RoboTimbo Hostile Nanobacon Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Rachel, KS Posts: 31,675	They were waiting all this time for someone to give them permission. And brother, did they get it.

26th May 2023, 08:40 AM	#22
RoboTimbo Hostile Nanobacon Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Rachel, KS Posts: 31,675	Originally Posted by RoboTimbo When Republicans had actual character or could mime it well enough to pass. I could be misremembering this part.

26th May 2023, 09:10 AM	#23
d4m10n Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Mounts Farm Posts: 10,908	Originally Posted by dudalb Announced a GOP Town Meeting with Mike Pence I'm not saying he's a likely frontrunner, but he is a former VP and probably GOP primary voters should hear his message. This is especially true if he finds some way to convincingly differentiate himself from the current prohibitive frontrunner.
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JoeMorgue Self Employed Remittance Man Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 44,080	"If one side says it is raining and the other side says it is not, it is not the new's job to 'report on both sides of the controversy.' It is the new's job to open a window and check." Because the Right has totally bought in on the "Everything is a bias, there is no difference between something being wrong and it being unpopular" thing.
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26th May 2023, 11:11 AM	#29
d4m10n Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Mounts Farm Posts: 10,908	Originally Posted by JoeMorgue "If one side says it is raining and the other side says it is not, it is not the news' job to 'report on both sides of the controversy.' It is the news' job to open a window and check." That's a fine aphorism and all, but it doesn't tell us whether any of the GOP candidates should be given a platform to either debate or field questions on CNN.
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26th May 2023, 11:29 AM	#30
JoeMorgue Self Employed Remittance Man Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 44,080	Originally Posted by d4m10n That's a fine aphorism and all, but it doesn't tell us whether any of the GOP candidates should be given a platform to either debate or field questions on CNN. I mean surely we don't want to "Cancel" anyone...
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26th May 2023, 11:43 AM	#31
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26th May 2023, 12:09 PM	#32
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26th May 2023, 01:04 PM	#33
dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sacramento Posts: 58,605	Originally Posted by Armitage72 One problem was that they allowed the Trump supporters in the audience to cheer while insisting that his detractors stay quiet. This. If CNN had done a GOP candidates town meeting, and inviting all the annunced candidates to participates, there would not be a problem. But the basically gave Trump 90 minutes for a rally. That is what the deserved criticism is about. I agree that the "Ignore Trump" theory that is going around is silly, though.
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26th May 2023, 07:11 PM	#34
Orphia Nay Penguilicious Spodmaster. Tagger Photo Contest Winner Join Date: May 2005 Location: Ponylandistan Presidential Palace (above the Spods' stables). Posts: 41,936	Originally Posted by Trebuchet Gotta wonder if they'll prevent Trump supporters from booing Pence! If CNN are being consistent and have planned this series of town halls at all, the audience will be supportive of the candidates and/or not allowed to boo, like during the Trump one.
	__________________ "We stigmatize and send to the margins people who trigger in us the feelings we want to avoid" - Melinda Gates, "The Moment of Lift".

26th May 2023, 10:32 PM	#35
TragicMonkey Poisoned Waffles Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Monkey Posts: 66,006	Originally Posted by Orphia Nay If CNN are being consistent and have planned this series of town halls at all, the audience will be supportive of the candidates and/or not allowed to boo, like during the Trump one. Some of them were actually saying "Boo-urns".
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26th May 2023, 11:11 PM	#36
Orphia Nay Penguilicious Spodmaster. Tagger Photo Contest Winner Join Date: May 2005 Location: Ponylandistan Presidential Palace (above the Spods' stables). Posts: 41,936	Originally Posted by TragicMonkey Some of them were actually saying "Boo-urns".
	__________________ "We stigmatize and send to the margins people who trigger in us the feelings we want to avoid" - Melinda Gates, "The Moment of Lift".