The post-Trump fascist creep catch-all thread - Page 10

dudalb · 17th August 2021, 06:07 PM

Originally Posted by kookbreaker

Fetterman was right when he called these guys the dimmer bulbs.

If one of them showed up on my doorstep, my answer would be

NONE OF YOUR DAMNED BUSINESS

maybe with a stronger word then Damned.

But yup., we are dealing with idiots here.

Stacyhs · 17th August 2021, 07:15 PM

Originally Posted by Norman Alexander

Battle them differently. Get creative!

Start some sort of charity drive where donations are based on how far they march, or how many of them avoid arrest, etc.

Some Germans show you how.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...00-for-charity

Brilliant. Absolutely brilliant! Gotta hand it to those German townspeople. But I'm sure there were some good people there, too!

TurkeysGhost · 18th August 2021, 05:07 AM

Would be a shame if anyone showed up to this fascist summer camp and doxxed everyone that attended.

Quote:

“Hitler Youth, Without the Hitler”

On August 20, 2021, a network of paleoconservative and White nationalist youth activists will gather at F.D. Roosevelt State Park outside of Atlanta, Georgia for a weekend camping retreat called 76Fest. Arielle Early, an 18-year-old White nationalist social media influencer billed as a “special guest” at 76Fest, asked listeners on a July 25 episode of her podcast, “How do we win the culture war?” The task, she explained, is to reach “the people who need help identifying what they believe in.”

https://www.politicalresearch.org/20...without-hitler

Norman Alexander · 18th August 2021, 06:47 AM

Originally Posted by SuburbanTurkey

Would be a shame if anyone showed up to this fascist summer camp and doxxed everyone that attended.

https://www.politicalresearch.org/20...without-hitler

They should proudly get identifying tattoos on their foreheads. Be proud, now!

Stacyhs · 18th August 2021, 12:08 PM

Originally Posted by Norman Alexander

They should proudly get identifying tattoos on their foreheads. Be proud, now!

Tattoos: For when an armband just isn't enough!

sackett · 18th August 2021, 12:34 PM

Originally Posted by Norman Alexander

They should proudly get identifying tattoos on their foreheads. Be proud, now!

By golly, I think this would be a really patriotic thing to do: GIVE them tats on their foreheads! Why should the Poor, I mean Pool, dammit, I mean ProuD BoyS have to pay some (probably non-aryan) yob to enoble their brows with Hakenkreutzen? Who does not have a pocket knife and a bottle of ink for such a glorious cause?

Remember that movie Inglorius Basterds? Well, I think I need say no more.

dudalb · 18th August 2021, 12:45 PM

Just read one of the Original Captain America stories from 1941 where the German American Bund..the main US Nazi organization..is terrorzing German Americans who refuse to join .They make the mistake of beating up the father of one of Bucky's friends and Cap and Bucky clean out "Camp Nordland". A lot of fun.

Armitage72 · 18th August 2021, 01:33 PM

Originally Posted by dudalb

Just read one of the Original Captain America stories from 1941 where the German American Bund..the main US Nazi organization..is terrorzing German Americans who refuse to join .They make the mistake of beating up the father of one of Bucky's friends and Cap and Bucky clean out "Camp Nordland". A lot of fun.

In the real world, Nazi supporters came to the Timely offices to try to threaten and intimidate the writers and artists. It's been said that Jack Kirby, who eventually became the inspiration for The Thing, had to be restrained from going down to the lobby and getting into a fight with them. He was later drafted and fought actual Nazis.

dudalb · 18th August 2021, 02:19 PM

Originally Posted by Armitage72

In the real world, Nazi supporters came to the Timely offices to try to threaten and intimidate the writers and artists. It's been said that Jack Kirby, who eventually became the inspiration for The Thing, had to be restrained from going down to the lobby and getting into a fight with them. He was later drafted and fought actual Nazis.

He was in the Third Army under Patton.
He could, by being the creator of Captian America, have gotten a soft job in Army PR, but he fought to get put into a combat unit. I wonder if the screen writers of "Captain America:First Avenger" knew this and sort of wrote it into the film .

dudalb · 18th August 2021, 02:24 PM

And over at DC Superman ,post war, beat up on the KKK...

https://www.thevintagenews.com/2018/...perman-vs-kkk/

I understand DC has approved a couple of indies doing an animated version of that storyline.

dudalb · 18th August 2021, 04:21 PM

And the attacking Biden for letting the Afghan who helped us down (and I think Biden is very culpable for the clusterf--- the evacuation of Afghanistan has become) while fearmongering about letting those same Afghans Allies into the US is a new high..or low..n hypocrisy.
No one is saying we should not screen them carefully....I fully expect a few Al qaida types will try to slip in....but it's not an issue of screening, it wanting to keep them out because they have the wrong skin color and the wrong religion.

Norman Alexander · 18th August 2021, 04:25 PM

Originally Posted by dudalb

And the attacking Biden for letting the Afghan who helped us down (and I think Biden is very culpable for the clusterf--- the evacuation of Afghanistan has become) while fearmongering about letting those same Afghans Allies into the US is a new high..or low..n hypocrisy.
No one is saying we should not screen them carefully....I fully expect a few Al qaida types will try to slip in....but it's not an issue of screening, it wanting to keep them out because they have the wrong skin color and the wrong religion.

Don't think you're alone.

Quote:

Peter Dutton [Australian Defence Minister] suggests some former Afghan guards and interpreters could pose security risk to Australia

https://www.theguardian.com/australi...k-to-australia

dudalb · 18th August 2021, 05:15 PM

Originally Posted by Norman Alexander

Don't think you're alone.

https://www.theguardian.com/australi...k-to-australia

White Australia Lives!

That is pure bigotry. I repeat:Yes, there needs to be screening..I have no doubt a few Al Qaida/ISIS types are going to try to slip in...but the crap in the article is pure bigotry
What next? We need to put the Abos back in their place?
Of course, if I was in snarky mood, I could point out how Australia got started anyway...WHo exactly the First Fleet was bringing over....

dudalb · 18th August 2021, 05:17 PM

No fan of the Latter Day Saints church on many issues but I have to approve of what the Governor of Utah just did:
In Utah, Republican Gov. Spencer Cox penned an open letter to Biden Tuesday, offering to accept Afghan refugees, citing the history of the state, which was founded by members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

“Our state was settled by refugees fleeing religious persecution 170 years ago,” he wrote. “Their descendants have a deep understanding of the danger and pain caused by forced migration and an appreciation for the wonderful contributions of refugees in our communities.”

TheGoldcountry · 18th August 2021, 05:43 PM

Originally Posted by dudalb

No fan of the Latter Day Saints church on many issues but I have to approve of what the Governor of Utah just did:
In Utah, Republican Gov. Spencer Cox penned an open letter to Biden Tuesday, offering to accept Afghan refugees, citing the history of the state, which was founded by members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

“Our state was settled by refugees fleeing religious persecution 170 years ago,” he wrote. “Their descendants have a deep understanding of the danger and pain caused by forced migration and an appreciation for the wonderful contributions of refugees in our communities.”

I'm sure they're hoping for new recruits, but that's better than the so-called "Christians" in this country that suddenly act very un-Christ like when people need help. The Mormons seem to have a better track record than many for practicing what they preach.

Norman Alexander · 18th August 2021, 09:20 PM

Originally Posted by dudalb

White Australia Lives!

That is pure bigotry. I repeat:Yes, there needs to be screening..I have no doubt a few Al Qaida/ISIS types are going to try to slip in...but the crap in the article is pure bigotry
What next? We need to put the Abos back in their place?
Of course, if I was in snarky mood, I could point out how Australia got started anyway...WHo exactly the First Fleet was bringing over....

Dutton has a track record of racism and bigotry, from the days when he was a redneck young policeman in a state where the government was corrupt and most of the cops were on the take.

https://www.ccc.qld.gov.au/about-us/...gerald-inquiry

dudalb · 19th August 2021, 02:05 PM

Originally Posted by Norman Alexander

Dutton has a track record of racism and bigotry, from the days when he was a redneck young policeman in a state where the government was corrupt and most of the cops were on the take.

https://www.ccc.qld.gov.au/about-us/...gerald-inquiry

He probably longs for the good old days of the Rabbit Wire fence when the Government in Australia knew how to keep the Abos in line.....

Norman Alexander · 19th August 2021, 02:26 PM

Originally Posted by dudalb

He probably longs for the good old days of the Rabbit Wire fence when the Government in Australia knew how to keep the Abos in line.....

Just FYI, The Rabbit Proof Fence is in a different state a thousand miles away (Western Australia), and it was to keep our feral rabbits under under control (it didn't). It was never anything to do with controlling native populations. There were other more insidious methods used until only a few decades ago.

No, Dutton is a bit of a truncheon-loving guy. His solutions to perceived "problems" involves metaphorically or literally hitting people. He's a thug.

kevbo · 20th August 2021, 12:17 AM

Originally Posted by TheGoldcountry

I'm sure they're hoping for new recruits, but that's better than the so-called "Christians" in this country that suddenly act very un-Christ like when people need help. The Mormons seem to have a better track record than many for practicing what they preach.

At least it would get them into the USA. They could always move elsewhere later if the proselytizing becomes too much for them. Or, they could take up a personal challenge to convert as many as they can to Allah. And parts of Utah are just about as rugged and desolate as many parts of Afghanistan. Should feel just like home.

Stacyhs · 22nd August 2021, 03:46 PM

This seemed the best place for this as Colbert covers the crazy anti-vaxxers, Newsom and a few other hot topics. My favorite part is the anti-vaxxers at a meeting voicing their...um...well, you'll see.

https://www.facebook.com/colbertlate...82658699009086

autumn1971 · 22nd August 2021, 04:18 PM

Originally Posted by dudalb

No fan of the Latter Day Saints church on many issues but I have to approve of what the Governor of Utah just did:
In Utah, Republican Gov. Spencer Cox penned an open letter to Biden Tuesday, offering to accept Afghan refugees, citing the history of the state, which was founded by members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

“Our state was settled by refugees fleeing religious persecution 170 years ago,” he wrote. “Their descendants have a deep understanding of the danger and pain caused by forced migration and an appreciation for the wonderful contributions of refugees in our communities.”

Likewise am often very against the LDSin general, this is a good start.

Also, individual Mormons are very often as pleasant and kind as could be.
Scary as a group most of the time though.

kevbo · 22nd August 2021, 04:27 PM

Originally Posted by autumn1971

Likewise am often very against the LDSin general, this is a good start.

Also, individual Mormons are very often as pleasant and kind as could be.
Scary as a group most of the time though.

This has been my experience, also. Most of the time. Until you get a family member fired up, then all bets are off.

Stacyhs · 22nd August 2021, 04:32 PM

Originally Posted by autumn1971

Likewise am often very against the LDSin general, this is a good start.

Also, individual Mormons are very often as pleasant and kind as could be.
Scary as a group most of the time though.

Having several Mormons on both my husband's side and mine, I can say that's very true. But believe me, it is a cult.

Stacyhs · 25th August 2021, 04:54 PM

Mary Trump's latest interview covering several topic including why so many Trump supporters can't admit they were duped (starting at 8:24), why Donnie may run again and why she's changed her mind on that, etc. It's very interesting. I know several people here will agree with her when she says it's time for the Dems to recognize that playing by the rules doesn't work with the now Fascist GOP.

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I AGREE

Stacyhs · 4th September 2021, 05:29 PM

I didn't know where else to put this, but God help our education system if this is an accurate representation of our young people:

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=2175049899436770

DevilsAdvocate · 4th September 2021, 08:00 PM

Originally Posted by Stacyhs

I didn't know where else to put this, but God help our education system if this is an accurate representation of our young people:

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=2175049899436770

Mike Dice isn't that young.

Stacyhs · 4th September 2021, 09:39 PM

Originally Posted by DevilsAdvocate

Mike Dice isn't that young.

Skeptic Ginger · 7th September 2021, 02:27 PM

Rather than searching for an old Ted Cruz thread, I'll just post this funny here:

Ted Cruz Tweeted when asked what the unemployed should do now that benefits are ending: "Umm, get a job."

One quick reply: "You first!".

Stacyhs · 7th September 2021, 05:58 PM

Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger

Rather than searching for an old Ted Cruz thread, I'll just post this funny here:

Ted Cruz Tweeted when asked what the unemployed should do now that benefits are ending: "Umm, get a job."

One quick reply: "You first!".

Go to Cancún!

TurkeysGhost · 8th September 2021, 01:32 PM

After close review, Portland Mayor Wheeler admits that "do nothing and let fascists commit broad daylight gang assault" was probably not the right strategy.

Quote:

Portland Mayor Ted Wheeler indicated Wednesday he believed the city’s police force had bungled the response to a violent political protest on Aug. 22 during which far-right and counterdemonstrators brawled in downtown and Northeast Portland without law enforcement intervention.

That police response has been criticized by both activists and elected officials as recklessly hands-off, endangering both protesters and passersby. But the mayor had deemed the approach a success, noting the “community at large was not harmed” and “property damage was minimal.”

During a city council meeting Wednesday, Wheeler, who oversees the police bureau, said he no longer believed the tactic was the correct one.

“It is clear based on the public outcry, on the media outcry, on the national front, that that strategy was not the right strategy. I think we can all acknowledge that,” he said. “I take full responsibility for it.”

https://www.opb.org/article/2021/09/...t-22-protests/

Quote:

“We’re still trying to find the right recipe,” he said.

Ah yes, trying to untie the Gordion Knot that is the same couple dozen well known individuals repeatedly conspiring to commit felonies in your city. What to do, what to do...

mgidm86 · 8th September 2021, 03:39 PM

Originally Posted by TheGoldcountry

I'm sure they're hoping for new recruits, but that's better than the so-called "Christians" in this country that suddenly act very un-Christ like when people need help. The Mormons seem to have a better track record than many for practicing what they preach.

I've never had a couple of Christian youths stop by my house on their bikes and ask if I needed help moving in. The mormon kids said if I never needed anything to just ask.

The Mormoms I've encountered, whatever their motives may be, have been very kind and great neighbors, and I never saw their veil slip, if there is one.

I've never had one preach to me either.

Stacyhs · 8th September 2021, 03:52 PM

Originally Posted by SuburbanTurkey

After close review, Portland Mayor Wheeler admits that "do nothing and let fascists commit broad daylight gang assault" was probably not the right strategy.

https://www.opb.org/article/2021/09/...t-22-protests/

Ah yes, trying to untie the Gordion Knot that is the same couple dozen well known individuals repeatedly conspiring to commit felonies in your city. What to do, what to do...

Gee, Wheeler...it wasn't the right response for the police to do jack all? Whoddathunk?

You're right, Turkey, that it's the same people over and over again. I say, anyone who is committing any violence or breaking the law needs to have the book thrown at them.

TurkeysGhost · 8th September 2021, 03:56 PM

Originally Posted by Stacyhs

Gee, Wheeler...it wasn't the right response for the police to do jack all? Whoddathunk?

You're right, Turkey, that it's the same people over and over again. I say, anyone who is committing any violence or breaking the law needs to have the book thrown at them.

The way things are going, it's either the cops finally getting off their asses to make some arrests of fascists or mutual gunfire between them and the antifascists.

Proud Boy Tiny Toese was shot as part of a similar fascist mob in Olympia recently. One way or the other people are going to respond to this lawlessness by out of town agitators.

dudalb · 8th September 2021, 04:02 PM

Rally in support of 1/6 "Political Prisoners" on Sep. 18.
I can this either becoming pretty bloody or being a big fizzle.
They still have not announced any speakers. Even the obvious GOP nutters like MTG are avoding this one.

Stacyhs · 8th September 2021, 04:03 PM

Originally Posted by mgidm86

I've never had a couple of Christian youths stop by my house on their bikes and ask if I needed help moving in. The mormon kids said if I never needed anything to just ask.

The Mormoms I've encountered, whatever their motives may be, have been very kind and great neighbors, and I never saw their veil slip, if there is one.

I've never had one preach to me either.

They don't normally preach unless they're literally on a mission. You can spot the missionaries from a mile away. Usually, but not always, two guys about 18, wearing dark suits with white shirts on bicycles. Girls do missions, too, but not nearly as often as the boys. They usually go for the year after graduating high school and can be sent anywhere in the world. My eldest BIL did his in S. Dakota while my step-SIL did hers in Russia.

My cousin got sent home from his mission in disgrace because he was going out with a girl on the down low which is against the rules. I was so proud of him!

When my husband's bio father asked him if he was going to go on mission, he said "Yes...Mission Beach, San Diego!"

The Great Zaganza · 8th September 2021, 10:31 PM

Wait.
So according to Wheeler, it was EXACTLY the right thing to do, but they won't do it anymore because it makes him look bad. Going forward, he will do something worse as long as it doesn't cost him votes.

Skeptic Ginger · 8th September 2021, 11:25 PM

Originally Posted by mgidm86

... I've never had one preach to me either.

Maybe not but one of the tenets of their religion is that young people need to serve 2 years in their missionary service. And in doing that they often can be seen, 2 young men in suits and ties knocking on doors to preach.

Stacyhs · 9th September 2021, 12:00 AM

Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger

Maybe not but one of the tenets of their religion is that young people need to serve 2 years in their missionary service. And in doing that they often can be seen, 2 young men in suits and ties knocking on doors to preach.

Missions aren't compulsory, but they are very much encouraged and it's understood that 'good' Mormons go on one...especially boys.

TurkeysGhost · 9th September 2021, 01:09 PM

Quote:

Special Report: Terrorized U.S. election workers get little help from law enforcement

The Reuters investigation revealed a breakdown in coordination and accountability among various levels of law enforcement. Some election officials fumed that police investigators or federal agents didn’t appear to take the threats seriously and that it was unclear which agency, if any, was investigating. Some said they never heard from investigators again after reporting threats of violence. When pressed about the status of some cases, several police officials said they had no involvement and pointed to the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI). Federal officials, by contrast, bemoaned a lack of information-sharing by local authorities.

Through public records and interviews, Reuters documented 102 threats of death or violence received by more than 40 election officials, workers and their relatives in eight of the most contested battleground states in the 2020 presidential contest. Each was explicit enough to put a reasonable person in fear of bodily harm or death, the typical legal threshold for prosecution.

Almost all of the 102 threats of violence appeared to be inspired by Trump’s debunked claims that the election was rigged against him. The messages often included highly personal, sometimes sexualized threats of violence or death, not only to the officials themselves but also to their family members and their children.

https://www.reuters.com/legal/govern...nt-2021-09-08/

What the "stop the steal" debacle showed, even in its failure, is how much of our electoral system relies on a fairly small number of low profile office holders doing their duty faithfully.

Driving out responsible people and replacing them with fascists and their enablers is a tactic that could pay huge returns for future races that hinge on disputes in swing states.

Stacyhs · 9th September 2021, 01:15 PM

Originally Posted by SuburbanTurkey

https://www.reuters.com/legal/govern...nt-2021-09-08/

What the "stop the steal" debacle showed, even in its failure, is how much of our electoral system relies on a fairly small number of low profile office holders doing their duty faithfully.

Driving out responsible people and replacing them with fascists and their enablers is a tactic that could pay huge returns for future races that hinge on disputes in swing states.

This just goes to show how sick some of these "stop the steal" idiots are. When they lay down with Trump, they got up with more than fleas. But your concern about the integrity of poll watchers is well founded. Some of the laws states are passing concerning them is frightening.

18th August 2021, 05:07 AM	#363
TurkeysGhost Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Apr 2018 Posts: 31,634	Would be a shame if anyone showed up to this fascist summer camp and doxxed everyone that attended. Quote: “Hitler Youth, Without the Hitler” On August 20, 2021, a network of paleoconservative and White nationalist youth activists will gather at F.D. Roosevelt State Park outside of Atlanta, Georgia for a weekend camping retreat called 76Fest. Arielle Early, an 18-year-old White nationalist social media influencer billed as a “special guest” at 76Fest, asked listeners on a July 25 episode of her podcast, “How do we win the culture war?” The task, she explained, is to reach “the people who need help identifying what they believe in.” https://www.politicalresearch.org/20...without-hitler
	__________________ Previously known as SuburbanTurkey

18th August 2021, 06:47 AM	#364
Norman Alexander Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Dharug & Gundungurra Posts: 14,982	Originally Posted by SuburbanTurkey Would be a shame if anyone showed up to this fascist summer camp and doxxed everyone that attended. https://www.politicalresearch.org/20...without-hitler They should proudly get identifying tattoos on their foreheads. Be proud, now!
	__________________ _{...our governments are just trying to protect us from terror. In the same way that someone banging a hornets’ nest with a stick is trying to protect us from hornets. Frankie Boyle, Guardian, July 2015}

18th August 2021, 12:34 PM	#366
sackett Philosopher Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Detroit Posts: 8,393	Originally Posted by Norman Alexander They should proudly get identifying tattoos on their foreheads. Be proud, now! By golly, I think this would be a really patriotic thing to do: GIVE them tats on their foreheads! Why should the Poor, I mean Pool, dammit, I mean ProuD BoyS have to pay some (probably non-aryan) yob to enoble their brows with Hakenkreutzen? Who does not have a pocket knife and a bottle of ink for such a glorious cause? Remember that movie Inglorius Basterds? Well, I think I need say no more.
	__________________ If you would learn a man's character, give him authority. If you would ruin a man's character, let him seize power.

18th August 2021, 02:24 PM	#370
dudalb Suspended Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sacramento Posts: 58,604	And over at DC Superman ,post war, beat up on the KKK... https://www.thevintagenews.com/2018/...perman-vs-kkk/ I understand DC has approved a couple of indies doing an animated version of that storyline.
	Last edited by dudalb; 18th August 2021 at 02:26 PM.

18th August 2021, 04:25 PM	#372
Norman Alexander Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Dharug & Gundungurra Posts: 14,982	Originally Posted by dudalb And the attacking Biden for letting the Afghan who helped us down (and I think Biden is very culpable for the clusterf--- the evacuation of Afghanistan has become) while fearmongering about letting those same Afghans Allies into the US is a new high..or low..n hypocrisy. No one is saying we should not screen them carefully....I fully expect a few Al qaida types will try to slip in....but it's not an issue of screening, it wanting to keep them out because they have the wrong skin color and the wrong religion. Don't think you're alone. Quote: Peter Dutton [Australian Defence Minister] suggests some former Afghan guards and interpreters could pose security risk to Australia https://www.theguardian.com/australi...k-to-australia
	__________________ _{...our governments are just trying to protect us from terror. In the same way that someone banging a hornets’ nest with a stick is trying to protect us from hornets. Frankie Boyle, Guardian, July 2015}

17th August 2021, 06:07 PM	#361
dudalb Suspended Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sacramento Posts: 58,604	Originally Posted by kookbreaker Fetterman was right when he called these guys the dimmer bulbs. If one of them showed up on my doorstep, my answer would be NONE OF YOUR DAMNED BUSINESS maybe with a stronger word then Damned. But yup., we are dealing with idiots here.

17th August 2021, 07:15 PM	#362
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 30,320	Originally Posted by Norman Alexander Battle them differently. Get creative! Start some sort of charity drive where donations are based on how far they march, or how many of them avoid arrest, etc. Some Germans show you how. https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...00-for-charity Brilliant. Absolutely brilliant! Gotta hand it to those German townspeople. But I'm sure there were some good people there, too!

18th August 2021, 12:08 PM	#365
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 30,320	Originally Posted by Norman Alexander They should proudly get identifying tattoos on their foreheads. Be proud, now! Tattoos: For when an armband just isn't enough!

18th August 2021, 12:45 PM	#367
dudalb Suspended Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sacramento Posts: 58,604	Just read one of the Original Captain America stories from 1941 where the German American Bund..the main US Nazi organization..is terrorzing German Americans who refuse to join .They make the mistake of beating up the father of one of Bucky's friends and Cap and Bucky clean out "Camp Nordland". A lot of fun.

18th August 2021, 01:33 PM	#368
Armitage72 Philosopher Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 7,825	Originally Posted by dudalb Just read one of the Original Captain America stories from 1941 where the German American Bund..the main US Nazi organization..is terrorzing German Americans who refuse to join .They make the mistake of beating up the father of one of Bucky's friends and Cap and Bucky clean out "Camp Nordland". A lot of fun. In the real world, Nazi supporters came to the Timely offices to try to threaten and intimidate the writers and artists. It's been said that Jack Kirby, who eventually became the inspiration for The Thing, had to be restrained from going down to the lobby and getting into a fight with them. He was later drafted and fought actual Nazis.

18th August 2021, 02:19 PM	#369
dudalb Suspended Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sacramento Posts: 58,604	Originally Posted by Armitage72 In the real world, Nazi supporters came to the Timely offices to try to threaten and intimidate the writers and artists. It's been said that Jack Kirby, who eventually became the inspiration for The Thing, had to be restrained from going down to the lobby and getting into a fight with them. He was later drafted and fought actual Nazis. He was in the Third Army under Patton. He could, by being the creator of Captian America, have gotten a soft job in Army PR, but he fought to get put into a combat unit. I wonder if the screen writers of "Captain America:First Avenger" knew this and sort of wrote it into the film .

18th August 2021, 04:21 PM	#371
dudalb Suspended Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sacramento Posts: 58,604	And the attacking Biden for letting the Afghan who helped us down (and I think Biden is very culpable for the clusterf--- the evacuation of Afghanistan has become) while fearmongering about letting those same Afghans Allies into the US is a new high..or low..n hypocrisy. No one is saying we should not screen them carefully....I fully expect a few Al qaida types will try to slip in....but it's not an issue of screening, it wanting to keep them out because they have the wrong skin color and the wrong religion.

18th August 2021, 05:15 PM	#373
dudalb Suspended Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sacramento Posts: 58,604	Originally Posted by Norman Alexander Don't think you're alone. https://www.theguardian.com/australi...k-to-australia White Australia Lives! That is pure bigotry. I repeat:Yes, there needs to be screening..I have no doubt a few Al Qaida/ISIS types are going to try to slip in...but the crap in the article is pure bigotry What next? We need to put the Abos back in their place? Of course, if I was in snarky mood, I could point out how Australia got started anyway...WHo exactly the First Fleet was bringing over....

18th August 2021, 05:17 PM	#374
dudalb Suspended Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sacramento Posts: 58,604	No fan of the Latter Day Saints church on many issues but I have to approve of what the Governor of Utah just did: In Utah, Republican Gov. Spencer Cox penned an open letter to Biden Tuesday, offering to accept Afghan refugees, citing the history of the state, which was founded by members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. “Our state was settled by refugees fleeing religious persecution 170 years ago,” he wrote. “Their descendants have a deep understanding of the danger and pain caused by forced migration and an appreciation for the wonderful contributions of refugees in our communities.”

18th August 2021, 05:43 PM	#375
TheGoldcountry Philosopher Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 7,657	Originally Posted by dudalb No fan of the Latter Day Saints church on many issues but I have to approve of what the Governor of Utah just did: In Utah, Republican Gov. Spencer Cox penned an open letter to Biden Tuesday, offering to accept Afghan refugees, citing the history of the state, which was founded by members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. “Our state was settled by refugees fleeing religious persecution 170 years ago,” he wrote. “Their descendants have a deep understanding of the danger and pain caused by forced migration and an appreciation for the wonderful contributions of refugees in our communities.” I'm sure they're hoping for new recruits, but that's better than the so-called "Christians" in this country that suddenly act very un-Christ like when people need help. The Mormons seem to have a better track record than many for practicing what they preach.
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18th August 2021, 09:20 PM	#376
Norman Alexander Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Dharug & Gundungurra Posts: 14,982	Originally Posted by dudalb White Australia Lives! That is pure bigotry. I repeat:Yes, there needs to be screening..I have no doubt a few Al Qaida/ISIS types are going to try to slip in...but the crap in the article is pure bigotry What next? We need to put the Abos back in their place? Of course, if I was in snarky mood, I could point out how Australia got started anyway...WHo exactly the First Fleet was bringing over.... Dutton has a track record of racism and bigotry, from the days when he was a redneck young policeman in a state where the government was corrupt and most of the cops were on the take. https://www.ccc.qld.gov.au/about-us/...gerald-inquiry
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19th August 2021, 02:05 PM	#377
dudalb Suspended Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sacramento Posts: 58,604	Originally Posted by Norman Alexander Dutton has a track record of racism and bigotry, from the days when he was a redneck young policeman in a state where the government was corrupt and most of the cops were on the take. https://www.ccc.qld.gov.au/about-us/...gerald-inquiry He probably longs for the good old days of the Rabbit Wire fence when the Government in Australia knew how to keep the Abos in line.....

19th August 2021, 02:26 PM	#378
Norman Alexander Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Dharug & Gundungurra Posts: 14,982	Originally Posted by dudalb He probably longs for the good old days of the Rabbit Wire fence when the Government in Australia knew how to keep the Abos in line..... Just FYI, The Rabbit Proof Fence is in a different state a thousand miles away (Western Australia), and it was to keep our feral rabbits under under control (it didn't). It was never anything to do with controlling native populations. There were other more insidious methods used until only a few decades ago. No, Dutton is a bit of a truncheon-loving guy. His solutions to perceived "problems" involves metaphorically or literally hitting people. He's a thug.
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20th August 2021, 12:17 AM	#379
kevbo Critical Thinker Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Rogue Valley, Oregon Posts: 376	Originally Posted by TheGoldcountry I'm sure they're hoping for new recruits, but that's better than the so-called "Christians" in this country that suddenly act very un-Christ like when people need help. The Mormons seem to have a better track record than many for practicing what they preach. At least it would get them into the USA. They could always move elsewhere later if the proselytizing becomes too much for them. Or, they could take up a personal challenge to convert as many as they can to Allah. And parts of Utah are just about as rugged and desolate as many parts of Afghanistan. Should feel just like home.

22nd August 2021, 03:46 PM	#380
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 30,320	This seemed the best place for this as Colbert covers the crazy anti-vaxxers, Newsom and a few other hot topics. My favorite part is the anti-vaxxers at a meeting voicing their...um...well, you'll see. https://www.facebook.com/colbertlate...82658699009086

22nd August 2021, 04:18 PM	#381
autumn1971 Illuminator Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 4,199	Originally Posted by dudalb No fan of the Latter Day Saints church on many issues but I have to approve of what the Governor of Utah just did: In Utah, Republican Gov. Spencer Cox penned an open letter to Biden Tuesday, offering to accept Afghan refugees, citing the history of the state, which was founded by members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. “Our state was settled by refugees fleeing religious persecution 170 years ago,” he wrote. “Their descendants have a deep understanding of the danger and pain caused by forced migration and an appreciation for the wonderful contributions of refugees in our communities.” Likewise am often very against the LDSin general, this is a good start. Also, individual Mormons are very often as pleasant and kind as could be. Scary as a group most of the time though.
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22nd August 2021, 04:27 PM	#382
kevbo Critical Thinker Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Rogue Valley, Oregon Posts: 376	Originally Posted by autumn1971 Likewise am often very against the LDSin general, this is a good start. Also, individual Mormons are very often as pleasant and kind as could be. Scary as a group most of the time though. This has been my experience, also. Most of the time. Until you get a family member fired up, then all bets are off.

22nd August 2021, 04:32 PM	#383
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 30,320	Originally Posted by autumn1971 Likewise am often very against the LDSin general, this is a good start. Also, individual Mormons are very often as pleasant and kind as could be. Scary as a group most of the time though. Having several Mormons on both my husband's side and mine, I can say that's very true. But believe me, it is a cult.

4th September 2021, 05:29 PM	#385
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 30,320	I didn't know where else to put this, but God help our education system if this is an accurate representation of our young people: https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=2175049899436770

4th September 2021, 08:00 PM	#386
DevilsAdvocate Philosopher Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 7,435	Originally Posted by Stacyhs I didn't know where else to put this, but God help our education system if this is an accurate representation of our young people: https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=2175049899436770 Mike Dice isn't that young.
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4th September 2021, 09:39 PM	#387
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 30,320	Originally Posted by DevilsAdvocate Mike Dice isn't that young.

7th September 2021, 02:27 PM	#388
Skeptic Ginger Nasty Woman Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 93,946	Rather than searching for an old Ted Cruz thread, I'll just post this funny here: Ted Cruz Tweeted when asked what the unemployed should do now that benefits are ending: "Umm, get a job." One quick reply: "You first!".

7th September 2021, 05:58 PM	#389
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 30,320	Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger Rather than searching for an old Ted Cruz thread, I'll just post this funny here: Ted Cruz Tweeted when asked what the unemployed should do now that benefits are ending: "Umm, get a job." One quick reply: "You first!". Go to Cancún!

8th September 2021, 01:32 PM	#390
TurkeysGhost Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Apr 2018 Posts: 31,634	After close review, Portland Mayor Wheeler admits that "do nothing and let fascists commit broad daylight gang assault" was probably not the right strategy. Quote: Portland Mayor Ted Wheeler indicated Wednesday he believed the city’s police force had bungled the response to a violent political protest on Aug. 22 during which far-right and counterdemonstrators brawled in downtown and Northeast Portland without law enforcement intervention. That police response has been criticized by both activists and elected officials as recklessly hands-off, endangering both protesters and passersby. But the mayor had deemed the approach a success, noting the “community at large was not harmed” and “property damage was minimal.” During a city council meeting Wednesday, Wheeler, who oversees the police bureau, said he no longer believed the tactic was the correct one. “It is clear based on the public outcry, on the media outcry, on the national front, that that strategy was not the right strategy. I think we can all acknowledge that,” he said. “I take full responsibility for it.” https://www.opb.org/article/2021/09/...t-22-protests/ Quote: “We’re still trying to find the right recipe,” he said. Ah yes, trying to untie the Gordion Knot that is the same couple dozen well known individuals repeatedly conspiring to commit felonies in your city. What to do, what to do...
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8th September 2021, 03:39 PM	#391
mgidm86 Philosopher Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,624	Originally Posted by TheGoldcountry I'm sure they're hoping for new recruits, but that's better than the so-called "Christians" in this country that suddenly act very un-Christ like when people need help. The Mormons seem to have a better track record than many for practicing what they preach. I've never had a couple of Christian youths stop by my house on their bikes and ask if I needed help moving in. The mormon kids said if I never needed anything to just ask. The Mormoms I've encountered, whatever their motives may be, have been very kind and great neighbors, and I never saw their veil slip, if there is one. I've never had one preach to me either.
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8th September 2021, 03:52 PM	#392
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 30,320	Originally Posted by SuburbanTurkey After close review, Portland Mayor Wheeler admits that "do nothing and let fascists commit broad daylight gang assault" was probably not the right strategy. https://www.opb.org/article/2021/09/...t-22-protests/ Ah yes, trying to untie the Gordion Knot that is the same couple dozen well known individuals repeatedly conspiring to commit felonies in your city. What to do, what to do... Gee, Wheeler...it wasn't the right response for the police to do jack all? Whoddathunk? You're right, Turkey, that it's the same people over and over again. I say, anyone who is committing any violence or breaking the law needs to have the book thrown at them.

8th September 2021, 03:56 PM	#393
TurkeysGhost Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Apr 2018 Posts: 31,634	Originally Posted by Stacyhs Gee, Wheeler...it wasn't the right response for the police to do jack all? Whoddathunk? You're right, Turkey, that it's the same people over and over again. I say, anyone who is committing any violence or breaking the law needs to have the book thrown at them. The way things are going, it's either the cops finally getting off their asses to make some arrests of fascists or mutual gunfire between them and the antifascists. Proud Boy Tiny Toese was shot as part of a similar fascist mob in Olympia recently. One way or the other people are going to respond to this lawlessness by out of town agitators.
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8th September 2021, 04:02 PM	#394
dudalb Suspended Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sacramento Posts: 58,604	Rally in support of 1/6 "Political Prisoners" on Sep. 18. I can this either becoming pretty bloody or being a big fizzle. They still have not announced any speakers. Even the obvious GOP nutters like MTG are avoding this one.

8th September 2021, 04:03 PM	#395
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 30,320	Originally Posted by mgidm86 I've never had a couple of Christian youths stop by my house on their bikes and ask if I needed help moving in. The mormon kids said if I never needed anything to just ask. The Mormoms I've encountered, whatever their motives may be, have been very kind and great neighbors, and I never saw their veil slip, if there is one. I've never had one preach to me either. They don't normally preach unless they're literally on a mission. You can spot the missionaries from a mile away. Usually, but not always, two guys about 18, wearing dark suits with white shirts on bicycles. Girls do missions, too, but not nearly as often as the boys. They usually go for the year after graduating high school and can be sent anywhere in the world. My eldest BIL did his in S. Dakota while my step-SIL did hers in Russia. My cousin got sent home from his mission in disgrace because he was going out with a girl on the down low which is against the rules. I was so proud of him! When my husband's bio father asked him if he was going to go on mission, he said "Yes...Mission Beach, San Diego!"

8th September 2021, 10:31 PM	#396
The Great Zaganza Maledictorian Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 19,893	Wait. So according to Wheeler, it was EXACTLY the right thing to do, but they won't do it anymore because it makes him look bad. Going forward, he will do something worse as long as it doesn't cost him votes.
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