[Continuation] Rioters storm and occupy the US Capitol - part 2 - Page 3

Captain_Swoop · 15th May 2021, 03:59 AM

Proud Boy lashes out at Trump for not pardoning him: ‘You left us alone on the battlefield’

Ethan Nordean, 30, who was arrested and charged for participating in the riot at the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, lashed out at former President Donald Trump when he realized that he wouldn’t getting a pardon and would likely being going to jail, according to newly released court records shared by POLITICO’s Kyle Cheney.

“Alright, I’m gunna say it. ******* TRUMP!” wrote in a message on Jan. 20. “******* him more than Biden. I’ve followed this guy for 4 years and given everything and lost it all. Yes he woke us up, but he let us to believe there was some great justice was upon us…and it never happened. Now I got some of my good friends and myself facing jail time cuz we followed this guys (sic) lead and never questioned it.”

“We are now and always have been on our own,” he continued. “So glad he was able to pardon a bunch of degenerates as his last move and sh** on us on the way out. ******* you Trump you left us on the battlefield bloody and alone.”

https://deadstate.org/proud-boy-lash...e-battlefield/

sackett · 15th May 2021, 07:57 AM

Now that's wooden rhetoric like

like

like

Like somebody used to make, but damn if I can think of an adequate example.

smartcooky · 17th May 2021, 02:31 PM

Originally Posted by Chris_Halkides

Anderson Cooper comments on the Republicans.

Beginning at 0:45 in that video, Rep Andrew Clyde makes the following statement

"REP. ANDREW CLYDE (R-GA): There was no insurrection and you call it an insurrection in my opinion, is a bold-faced lie. Watching the TV footage of those who entered the capitol, and walk through statuary hall showed people in an orderly fashion staying between the stanchions and ropes taking videos and pictures.

You know, if you don't know the TV footage was a video from January the 6th, you would actually think it was a normal tourist visit.

Now if this was true, then I would like to ask Rep Clyde why this photograph clearly shows him helping other congressmen to barricade the doors to the chamber!

Oops!!

tyr_13 · 17th May 2021, 07:11 PM

Originally Posted by smartcooky

Beginning at 0:45 in that video, Rep Andrew Clyde makes the following statement

"REP. ANDREW CLYDE (R-GA): There was no insurrection and you call it an insurrection in my opinion, is a bold-faced lie. Watching the TV footage of those who entered the capitol, and walk through statuary hall showed people in an orderly fashion staying between the stanchions and ropes taking videos and pictures.

You know, if you don't know the TV footage was a video from January the 6th, you would actually think it was a normal tourist visit.

Now if this was true, then I would like to ask Rep Clyde why this photograph clearly shows him helping other congressmen to barricade the doors to the chamber!

https://www.dropbox.com/s/pr7jqodjqj...lyde.jpg?raw=1

Oops!!

...he said he did that in the same speech he said the insurrectionists looked like normal tour groups. He literally already bragged about that 'gotcha'. Something about 'stood bravely with my Republican colleagues barricading the door'.

Listen, he doesn't suffer from cognitive dissonance, he enjoys every minute of it.

Captain_Swoop · 18th May 2021, 06:48 AM

GOP Leader Kevin McCarthy says he does NOT support a 9/11-style commission on January 6th.

erlando · 18th May 2021, 07:13 AM

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop

GOP Leader Kevin McCarthy says he does NOT support a 9/11-style commission on January 6th.

Of course he doesn't. Supporting that would probably get him ousted from the leadership. The GOP is not in the least bit interested in finding out any kind of truth about Jan 6th. It's all "peaceful tourists" for them.

Crossbow · 18th May 2021, 08:17 AM

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop

GOP Leader Kevin McCarthy says he does NOT support a 9/11-style commission on January 6th.

And does anyone else recall when Kevin McCarthy was all for the famous Benghazi investigation because it was a good way to get Hillary Clinton into trouble?

But now that Trump is the one who is in trouble, all of a sudden, McCarthy does not want an investigation into the Capitol insurrection.

ponderingturtle · 18th May 2021, 08:40 AM

Originally Posted by erlando

Of course he doesn't. Supporting that would probably get him ousted from the leadership. The GOP is not in the least bit interested in finding out any kind of truth about Jan 6th. It's all "peaceful tourists" for them.

They totally missed the opportunity to send Pence out to talk to them, that would have solved everything so much quicker.

Skeptic Ginger · 18th May 2021, 12:01 PM

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop

GOP Leader Kevin McCarthy says he does NOT support a 9/11-style commission on January 6th.

Gee, I wonder why not.

TurkeysGhost · 18th May 2021, 12:04 PM

Qanon shaman's lawyer is out there trashing his client.

Quote:

Watkins, the “Q Shaman” Jacob Chansley’s attorney, said his client had Asperger’s syndrome and indicated that Chansley’s mental state — and the impact of Trump’s “propaganda” efforts — would play a role in his case.

“A lot of these defendants — and I’m going to use this colloquial term, perhaps disrespectfully — but they’re all ******* short-bus people,” Watkins told TPM. “These are people with brain damage, they’re ******* retarded, they’re on the goddamn spectrum.”

“But they’re our brothers, our sisters, our neighbors, our coworkers — they’re part of our country. These aren’t bad people, they don’t have prior criminal history. ****, they were subjected to four-plus years of goddamn propaganda the likes of which the world has not seen since ******* Hitler.”

https://twitter.com/TPM/status/1394629722404016131

Crossbow · 18th May 2021, 12:16 PM

Originally Posted by SuburbanTurkey

Qanon shaman's lawyer is out there trashing his client.

https://twitter.com/TPM/status/1394629722404016131

Gee whiz!

I know that Trump has had some horrible lawyers, but I never expected that Trump supporters would end up with even worse lawyers than Trump has.

Mumbles · 18th May 2021, 12:26 PM

Originally Posted by Crossbow

Gee whiz!

I know that Trump has had some horrible lawyers, but I never expected that Trump supporters would end up with even worse lawyers than Trump has.

Here's a thread for some more info on the scumbag. I'm guessing that no good lawyer would take this case.

eerok · 18th May 2021, 12:33 PM

Originally Posted by SuburbanTurkey

Qanon shaman's lawyer is out there trashing his client.

https://twitter.com/TPM/status/1394629722404016131

Well, obviously QAnons have mental problems. All the more reason to keep them from running around loose with weapons.

Matthew Best · 18th May 2021, 01:06 PM

Originally Posted by Mumbles

Here's a thread for some more info on the scumbag.

Is that the right link? I'm not seeing the connection.

Captain_Swoop · 18th May 2021, 01:06 PM

Originally Posted by Mumbles

Here's a thread for some more info on the scumbag. I'm guessing that no good lawyer would take this case.

That appears to be a thread on immigration.

Mumbles · 18th May 2021, 01:12 PM

...huh. *shrugs* Dunno what happened, but maybe this one will work.

arthwollipot · 18th May 2021, 06:12 PM

Originally Posted by SuburbanTurkey

Qanon shaman's lawyer is out there trashing his client.

https://twitter.com/TPM/status/1394629722404016131

Wow. What an unpleasant person.

Aridas · 18th May 2021, 09:46 PM

Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger

Gee, I wonder why not.

After all, it was just tourists taking a stroll!

DevilsAdvocate · 19th May 2021, 01:47 AM

Originally Posted by arthwollipot

Wow. What an unpleasant person.

Or, as some people might say, a retarded short-bus person with brain damage on the goddamn spectrum.

Captain_Swoop · 19th May 2021, 02:05 PM

Former President Trump called for an immediate end to the debate over a commission to investigate the Jan. 6 Capitol riot the night before the House is expected to approve the plan.

“Republicans in the House and Senate should not approve the Democrat trap of the January 6 Commission. It is just more partisan unfairness and unless the murders, riots, and fire bombings in Portland, Minneapolis, Seattle, Chicago, and New York are also going to be studied, this discussion should be ended immediately,” Trump said in a statement Tuesday night.

“Republicans must get much tougher and much smarter, and stop being used by the Radical Left. Hopefully, Mitch McConnell and Kevin McCarthy are listening!” he added.

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5...nd-immediately

smartcooky · 19th May 2021, 02:10 PM

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop

Former President Trump called for an immediate end to the debate over a commission to investigate the Jan. 6 Capitol riot the night before the House is expected to approve the plan.

“Republicans in the House and Senate should not approve the Democrat trap of the January 6 Commission. It is just more partisan unfairness and unless the murders, riots, and fire bombings in Portland, Minneapolis, Seattle, Chicago, and New York are also going to be studied, this discussion should be ended immediately,” Trump said in a statement Tuesday night.

“Republicans must get much tougher and much smarter, and stop being used by the Radical Left. Hopefully, Mitch McConnell and Kevin McCarthy are listening!” he added.

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5...nd-immediately

Why doesn't AG Merrick Garland just open a special counsel investigation.... McCarthy and Moscow Mitch would not be able to do anything about that.

Captain_Swoop · 19th May 2021, 02:11 PM

Because they want to avoid accusations that it is a partisan act?

gnome · 19th May 2021, 02:16 PM

That ship has sailed.

That ship never was built in the first place, more like it.

Belz... · 19th May 2021, 02:27 PM

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop

Former President Trump called for an immediate end to the debate over a commission to investigate the Jan. 6 Capitol riot the night before the House is expected to approve the plan.

Because of course he would.

Captain_Swoop · 19th May 2021, 03:57 PM

252-175. House passed legislation creating a national, bipartisan commission to investigate the January 6th attack on the US Capitol

Announced by Speaker Pelosi from the chair.

Bill now heads to the Senate.

35 House Republicans voted Yes with all Democrats.

arthwollipot · 19th May 2021, 07:07 PM

Originally Posted by DevilsAdvocate

Or, as some people might say, a retarded short-bus person with brain damage on the goddamn spectrum.

"Unpleasant" covers it, I think. I wouldn't want to lower myself to his level.

Skeptic Ginger · 19th May 2021, 07:19 PM

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop

252-175. House passed legislation creating a national, bipartisan commission to investigate the January 6th attack on the US Capitol

Announced by Speaker Pelosi from the chair.

Bill now heads to the Senate.

35 House Republicans voted Yes with all Democrats.

I was pleasantly surprised to see that vote. I think we are seeing some of Dump's support disintegrate the further away from his toxic Presidency we get. Republicans are also getting tired of the AZ recount.

arthwollipot · 19th May 2021, 07:30 PM

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop

252-175. House passed legislation creating a national, bipartisan commission to investigate the January 6th attack on the US Capitol

Announced by Speaker Pelosi from the chair.

Bill now heads to the Senate.

35 House Republicans voted Yes with all Democrats.

Republicans should not be invited to participate in the investigation, for the same reason that Osama Bin Laden was not invited to participate in the investigation of 9/11.

smartcooky · 19th May 2021, 08:48 PM

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop

252-175. House passed legislation creating a national, bipartisan commission to investigate the January 6th attack on the US Capitol

Announced by Speaker Pelosi from the chair.

Bill now heads to the Senate.

35 House Republicans voted Yes with all Democrats.

They will need 10 Republican senators to join the Democrats. I can't see where they are going to come from. I see possibly Lisa Murkowski, Ben Sasse, Mitt Romney, Susan Collins, Ben Cassidy and maybe Pat Toomey. The rest of the Senate are Trump loyalists, sycophants and arse lickers.

The only way this will pass is by killing the filibuster - getting the two DINOs Manchin and Sinema to agree to that will be harder than finding another four GQP senators.

Skeptic Ginger · 19th May 2021, 09:15 PM

Originally Posted by smartcooky

They will need 10 Republican senators to join the Democrats. I can't see where they are going to come from. I see possibly Lisa Murkowski, Ben Sasse, Mitt Romney, Susan Collins, Ben Cassidy and maybe Pat Toomey. The rest of the Senate are Trump loyalists, sycophants and arse lickers. ....

At least 7 GOP senators say they’re open to a commission focused on Jan. 6

Quote:

Republicans probably don’t want to spend months reopening old wounds, publicly revisiting the riot and Trump’s claims of voter fraud ahead of it. But the number of senators openly expressing interest in the commission is an indicator of the momentum behind the effort to more closely examine what happened in January. And McConnell hasn’t exactly been pushing back hard against it.

It’s unclear whether the remaining Republicans who voted to convict Trump in February — Sens. Richard Burr (N.C.), Ben Sasse (Neb.) and Patrick J. Toomey (Pa.) — are on board. But they would be logical potential supporters. And if they are, and all 50 Democratic senators vote in favor of the commission, that could theoretically be 60 votes — or possibly more, since Thune’s vote, as Senate minority whip, would seemingly signal to other members of his party that they, too, can vote for the measure.

The GOP Senators might just want to get on board in order to control the investigation at least to some extent.

Quote:

Republicans could also try to force changes to the final makeup of the commission — for example, demanding that both parties can hire staff. Reluctance from Democrats to make changes or concessions could give Republicans cover to vote against it. But for now, there seems to be at least some momentum — and a few Republicans considering voting “yes.”

And what option does the GOP have? The criminal investigations are going forward. Arrests are in the hundreds. And some of those trials are going to drag Trump and the GOP into the courtroom.

Squeegee Beckenheim · 20th May 2021, 04:41 AM

https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1395130470615031809

Quote:

Wow Tim Ryan has had enough

Video embedded in tweet.

gnome · 20th May 2021, 04:49 AM

Florida has two senators, Marco Rubio and former governor Rick Scott.

I wrote to Rubio asking him to support the commission--he's occasionally (not often enough) shown a tiny particle of independence.

I didn't bother with Rick Scott. He's just a blander Trump, a grifter that ascended in politics through parroting the right Tea Party buzzwords and so far as I know he's all in on the insanity.

smartcooky · 20th May 2021, 05:00 AM

Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger

At least 7 GOP senators say they’re open to a commission focused on Jan. 6

The GOP Senators might just want to get on board in order to control the investigation at least to some extent.

And what option does the GOP have? The criminal investigations are going forward. Arrests are in the hundreds. And some of those trials are going to drag Trump and the GOP into the courtroom.

Now would be a good time for some reporters to ask Merrick Garland about the possibility of appointing a Special Counsel to investigate the 1/6 attacks. Garland could then say something like "I haven't yet made a decision. I'm waiting to see what Congress does".

A reply like that might put the fear of Christ up them, because they probably think they might be able to influence or control a Congressional Commission, but they know they would not be able to control a Special Counsel Investigation. Such and investigation would have subpoena power for witnesses, and there will be not DoJ lapdog giving out "Absolute Immunity".

kookbreaker · 20th May 2021, 06:16 AM

There was more damage to the Capitol that originally reported.

https://mobile.twitter.com/MacFarlan...56845301276674

Dr. Keith · 20th May 2021, 06:38 AM

Originally Posted by kookbreaker

There was more damage to the Capitol that originally reported.

https://mobile.twitter.com/MacFarlan...56845301276674

That's silly. It was just a normal day at the capitol. Look you can't even tell the difference from photos.

smartcooky · 20th May 2021, 06:14 PM

I have been watching the number of people charged slowy rising... we're now up to 493 "Capitol tourists".

Squeegee Beckenheim · 21st May 2021, 01:49 AM

I'm confused about something - since the insurrectionists were actually Antifa, why did the members of the GOP who hate Antifa vote against an investigation?

smartcooky · 21st May 2021, 02:08 AM

Originally Posted by Squeegee Beckenheim

I'm confused about something - since the insurrectionists were actually Antifa, why did the members of the GOP who hate Antifa vote against an investigation?

Because, like all liars tend to find, when you keep telling lies, and you keep changing your story, its really difficult to keep all your lies and stories straight.

Belz... · 21st May 2021, 02:37 AM

Originally Posted by smartcooky

Because, like all liars tend to find, when you keep telling lies, and you keep changing your story, its really difficult to keep all your lies and stories straight.

"When you tell the truth, you don't need to have a good memory." - Judge Judy

erlando · 21st May 2021, 03:22 AM

Originally Posted by Squeegee Beckenheim

I'm confused about something - since the insurrectionists were actually Antifa, why did the members of the GOP who hate Antifa vote against an investigation?

And why are peaceful Antifa tourists a problem?

15th May 2021, 07:57 AM	#82
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17th May 2021, 02:31 PM	#83
smartcooky Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Nelson, New Zealand Posts: 23,608	Its embarrassing to be Andrew Clyde right now! Originally Posted by Chris_Halkides Anderson Cooper comments on the Republicans. Beginning at 0:45 in that video, Rep Andrew Clyde makes the following statement "REP. ANDREW CLYDE (R-GA): There was no insurrection and you call it an insurrection in my opinion, is a bold-faced lie. Watching the TV footage of those who entered the capitol, and walk through statuary hall showed people in an orderly fashion staying between the stanchions and ropes taking videos and pictures. You know, if you don't know the TV footage was a video from January the 6th, you would actually think it was a normal tourist visit. Now if this was true, then I would like to ask Rep Clyde why this photograph clearly shows him helping other congressmen to barricade the doors to the chamber! Oops!!
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17th May 2021, 07:11 PM	#84
tyr_13 Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 17,629	Originally Posted by smartcooky Beginning at 0:45 in that video, Rep Andrew Clyde makes the following statement "REP. ANDREW CLYDE (R-GA): There was no insurrection and you call it an insurrection in my opinion, is a bold-faced lie. Watching the TV footage of those who entered the capitol, and walk through statuary hall showed people in an orderly fashion staying between the stanchions and ropes taking videos and pictures. You know, if you don't know the TV footage was a video from January the 6th, you would actually think it was a normal tourist visit. Now if this was true, then I would like to ask Rep Clyde why this photograph clearly shows him helping other congressmen to barricade the doors to the chamber! https://www.dropbox.com/s/pr7jqodjqj...lyde.jpg?raw=1 Oops!! ...he said he did that in the same speech he said the insurrectionists looked like normal tour groups. He literally already bragged about that 'gotcha'. Something about 'stood bravely with my Republican colleagues barricading the door'. Listen, he doesn't suffer from cognitive dissonance, he enjoys every minute of it.
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18th May 2021, 07:13 AM	#86
erlando Master Poster Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 2,429	Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop GOP Leader Kevin McCarthy says he does NOT support a 9/11-style commission on January 6th. Of course he doesn't. Supporting that would probably get him ousted from the leadership. The GOP is not in the least bit interested in finding out any kind of truth about Jan 6th. It's all "peaceful tourists" for them.
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18th May 2021, 08:17 AM	#87
Crossbow Seeking Honesty and Sanity Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Charleston, WV Posts: 14,447	Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop GOP Leader Kevin McCarthy says he does NOT support a 9/11-style commission on January 6th. And does anyone else recall when Kevin McCarthy was all for the famous Benghazi investigation because it was a good way to get Hillary Clinton into trouble? But now that Trump is the one who is in trouble, all of a sudden, McCarthy does not want an investigation into the Capitol insurrection.
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15th May 2021, 03:59 AM	#81
Captain_Swoop Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 43,373	Proud Boy lashes out at Trump for not pardoning him: ‘You left us alone on the battlefield’ Ethan Nordean, 30, who was arrested and charged for participating in the riot at the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, lashed out at former President Donald Trump when he realized that he wouldn’t getting a pardon and would likely being going to jail, according to newly released court records shared by POLITICO’s Kyle Cheney. “Alright, I’m gunna say it. ***** TRUMP!” wrote in a message on Jan. 20. “*** him more than Biden. I’ve followed this guy for 4 years and given everything and lost it all. Yes he woke us up, but he let us to believe there was some great justice was upon us…and it never happened. Now I got some of my good friends and myself facing jail time cuz we followed this guys (sic) lead and never questioned it.” “We are now and always have been on our own,” he continued. “So glad he was able to pardon a bunch of degenerates as his last move and sh on us on the way out. ******* you Trump you left us on the battlefield bloody and alone.” https://deadstate.org/proud-boy-lash...e-battlefield/

18th May 2021, 06:48 AM	#85
Captain_Swoop Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 43,373	GOP Leader Kevin McCarthy says he does NOT support a 9/11-style commission on January 6th.

18th May 2021, 08:40 AM	#88
ponderingturtle Orthogonal Vector Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 53,072	Originally Posted by erlando Of course he doesn't. Supporting that would probably get him ousted from the leadership. The GOP is not in the least bit interested in finding out any kind of truth about Jan 6th. It's all "peaceful tourists" for them. They totally missed the opportunity to send Pence out to talk to them, that would have solved everything so much quicker.
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18th May 2021, 12:01 PM	#89
Skeptic Ginger Nasty Woman Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 93,946	Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop GOP Leader Kevin McCarthy says he does NOT support a 9/11-style commission on January 6th. Gee, I wonder why not.

18th May 2021, 12:04 PM	#90
TurkeysGhost Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Apr 2018 Posts: 31,634	Qanon shaman's lawyer is out there trashing his client. Quote: Watkins, the “Q Shaman” Jacob Chansley’s attorney, said his client had Asperger’s syndrome and indicated that Chansley’s mental state — and the impact of Trump’s “propaganda” efforts — would play a role in his case. “A lot of these defendants — and I’m going to use this colloquial term, perhaps disrespectfully — but they’re all ***** short-bus people,” Watkins told TPM. “These are people with brain damage, they’re *** retarded, they’re on the goddamn spectrum.” “But they’re our brothers, our sisters, our neighbors, our coworkers — they’re part of our country. These aren’t bad people, they don’t have prior criminal history. , they were subjected to four-plus years of goddamn propaganda the likes of which the world has not seen since ***** Hitler.” https://twitter.com/TPM/status/1394629722404016131
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18th May 2021, 12:16 PM	#91
Crossbow Seeking Honesty and Sanity Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Charleston, WV Posts: 14,447	Originally Posted by SuburbanTurkey Qanon shaman's lawyer is out there trashing his client. https://twitter.com/TPM/status/1394629722404016131 Gee whiz! I know that Trump has had some horrible lawyers, but I never expected that Trump supporters would end up with even worse lawyers than Trump has.
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18th May 2021, 12:26 PM	#92
Mumbles Philosopher Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 8,726	Originally Posted by Crossbow Gee whiz! I know that Trump has had some horrible lawyers, but I never expected that Trump supporters would end up with even worse lawyers than Trump has. Here's a thread for some more info on the scumbag. I'm guessing that no good lawyer would take this case.
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18th May 2021, 12:33 PM	#93
eerok Quixoticist Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: ON Canada Posts: 5,441	Originally Posted by SuburbanTurkey Qanon shaman's lawyer is out there trashing his client. https://twitter.com/TPM/status/1394629722404016131 Well, obviously QAnons have mental problems. All the more reason to keep them from running around loose with weapons.
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18th May 2021, 01:06 PM	#94
Matthew Best Philosopher Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Leicester Square, London Posts: 9,889	Originally Posted by Mumbles Here's a thread for some more info on the scumbag. Is that the right link? I'm not seeing the connection.

18th May 2021, 01:12 PM	#96
Mumbles Philosopher Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 8,726	...huh. shrugs Dunno what happened, but maybe this one will work.
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18th May 2021, 06:12 PM	#97
arthwollipot Observer of Phenomena Pronouns: he/him Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Ngunnawal Country Posts: 82,095	Originally Posted by SuburbanTurkey Qanon shaman's lawyer is out there trashing his client. https://twitter.com/TPM/status/1394629722404016131 Wow. What an unpleasant person.
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18th May 2021, 09:46 PM	#98
Aridas Crazy Little Green Dragon Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: East Coast, US Posts: 9,946	Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger Gee, I wonder why not. After all, it was just tourists taking a stroll!
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19th May 2021, 01:47 AM	#99
DevilsAdvocate Philosopher Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 7,435	Originally Posted by arthwollipot Wow. What an unpleasant person. Or, as some people might say, a retarded short-bus person with brain damage on the goddamn spectrum.
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19th May 2021, 02:05 PM	#100
Captain_Swoop Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 43,373	Former President Trump called for an immediate end to the debate over a commission to investigate the Jan. 6 Capitol riot the night before the House is expected to approve the plan. “Republicans in the House and Senate should not approve the Democrat trap of the January 6 Commission. It is just more partisan unfairness and unless the murders, riots, and fire bombings in Portland, Minneapolis, Seattle, Chicago, and New York are also going to be studied, this discussion should be ended immediately,” Trump said in a statement Tuesday night. “Republicans must get much tougher and much smarter, and stop being used by the Radical Left. Hopefully, Mitch McConnell and Kevin McCarthy are listening!” he added. https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5...nd-immediately

19th May 2021, 02:10 PM	#101
smartcooky Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Nelson, New Zealand Posts: 23,608	Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop Former President Trump called for an immediate end to the debate over a commission to investigate the Jan. 6 Capitol riot the night before the House is expected to approve the plan. “Republicans in the House and Senate should not approve the Democrat trap of the January 6 Commission. It is just more partisan unfairness and unless the murders, riots, and fire bombings in Portland, Minneapolis, Seattle, Chicago, and New York are also going to be studied, this discussion should be ended immediately,” Trump said in a statement Tuesday night. “Republicans must get much tougher and much smarter, and stop being used by the Radical Left. Hopefully, Mitch McConnell and Kevin McCarthy are listening!” he added. https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5...nd-immediately Why doesn't AG Merrick Garland just open a special counsel investigation.... McCarthy and Moscow Mitch would not be able to do anything about that.
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19th May 2021, 02:11 PM	#102
Captain_Swoop Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 43,373	Because they want to avoid accusations that it is a partisan act?

19th May 2021, 02:16 PM	#103
gnome Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 13,764	That ship has sailed. That ship never was built in the first place, more like it.
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19th May 2021, 02:27 PM	#104
Belz... Fiend God Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: In a post-fact world Posts: 96,875	Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop Former President Trump called for an immediate end to the debate over a commission to investigate the Jan. 6 Capitol riot the night before the House is expected to approve the plan. Because of course he would.
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19th May 2021, 03:57 PM	#105
Captain_Swoop Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 43,373	252-175. House passed legislation creating a national, bipartisan commission to investigate the January 6th attack on the US Capitol Announced by Speaker Pelosi from the chair. Bill now heads to the Senate. 35 House Republicans voted Yes with all Democrats.

19th May 2021, 07:07 PM	#106
arthwollipot Observer of Phenomena Pronouns: he/him Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Ngunnawal Country Posts: 82,095	Originally Posted by DevilsAdvocate Or, as some people might say, a retarded short-bus person with brain damage on the goddamn spectrum. "Unpleasant" covers it, I think. I wouldn't want to lower myself to his level.
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19th May 2021, 07:19 PM	#107
Skeptic Ginger Nasty Woman Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 93,946	Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop 252-175. House passed legislation creating a national, bipartisan commission to investigate the January 6th attack on the US Capitol Announced by Speaker Pelosi from the chair. Bill now heads to the Senate. 35 House Republicans voted Yes with all Democrats. I was pleasantly surprised to see that vote. I think we are seeing some of Dump's support disintegrate the further away from his toxic Presidency we get. Republicans are also getting tired of the AZ recount.

19th May 2021, 07:30 PM	#108
arthwollipot Observer of Phenomena Pronouns: he/him Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Ngunnawal Country Posts: 82,095	Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop 252-175. House passed legislation creating a national, bipartisan commission to investigate the January 6th attack on the US Capitol Announced by Speaker Pelosi from the chair. Bill now heads to the Senate. 35 House Republicans voted Yes with all Democrats. Republicans should not be invited to participate in the investigation, for the same reason that Osama Bin Laden was not invited to participate in the investigation of 9/11.
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19th May 2021, 08:48 PM	#109
smartcooky Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Nelson, New Zealand Posts: 23,608	Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop 252-175. House passed legislation creating a national, bipartisan commission to investigate the January 6th attack on the US Capitol Announced by Speaker Pelosi from the chair. Bill now heads to the Senate. 35 House Republicans voted Yes with all Democrats. They will need 10 Republican senators to join the Democrats. I can't see where they are going to come from. I see possibly Lisa Murkowski, Ben Sasse, Mitt Romney, Susan Collins, Ben Cassidy and maybe Pat Toomey. The rest of the Senate are Trump loyalists, sycophants and arse lickers. The only way this will pass is by killing the filibuster - getting the two DINOs Manchin and Sinema to agree to that will be harder than finding another four GQP senators.
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19th May 2021, 09:15 PM	#110
Skeptic Ginger Nasty Woman Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 93,946	Originally Posted by smartcooky They will need 10 Republican senators to join the Democrats. I can't see where they are going to come from. I see possibly Lisa Murkowski, Ben Sasse, Mitt Romney, Susan Collins, Ben Cassidy and maybe Pat Toomey. The rest of the Senate are Trump loyalists, sycophants and arse lickers. .... At least 7 GOP senators say they’re open to a commission focused on Jan. 6 Quote: Republicans probably don’t want to spend months reopening old wounds, publicly revisiting the riot and Trump’s claims of voter fraud ahead of it. But the number of senators openly expressing interest in the commission is an indicator of the momentum behind the effort to more closely examine what happened in January. And McConnell hasn’t exactly been pushing back hard against it. It’s unclear whether the remaining Republicans who voted to convict Trump in February — Sens. Richard Burr (N.C.), Ben Sasse (Neb.) and Patrick J. Toomey (Pa.) — are on board. But they would be logical potential supporters. And if they are, and all 50 Democratic senators vote in favor of the commission, that could theoretically be 60 votes — or possibly more, since Thune’s vote, as Senate minority whip, would seemingly signal to other members of his party that they, too, can vote for the measure. The GOP Senators might just want to get on board in order to control the investigation at least to some extent. Quote: Republicans could also try to force changes to the final makeup of the commission — for example, demanding that both parties can hire staff. Reluctance from Democrats to make changes or concessions could give Republicans cover to vote against it. But for now, there seems to be at least some momentum — and a few Republicans considering voting “yes.” And what option does the GOP have? The criminal investigations are going forward. Arrests are in the hundreds. And some of those trials are going to drag Trump and the GOP into the courtroom.

20th May 2021, 04:41 AM	#111
Squeegee Beckenheim Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 32,124	https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1395130470615031809 Quote: Wow Tim Ryan has had enough Video embedded in tweet.
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20th May 2021, 04:49 AM	#112
gnome Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 13,764	Florida has two senators, Marco Rubio and former governor Rick Scott. I wrote to Rubio asking him to support the commission--he's occasionally (not often enough) shown a tiny particle of independence. I didn't bother with Rick Scott. He's just a blander Trump, a grifter that ascended in politics through parroting the right Tea Party buzzwords and so far as I know he's all in on the insanity.
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20th May 2021, 05:00 AM	#113
smartcooky Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Nelson, New Zealand Posts: 23,608	Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger At least 7 GOP senators say they’re open to a commission focused on Jan. 6 The GOP Senators might just want to get on board in order to control the investigation at least to some extent. And what option does the GOP have? The criminal investigations are going forward. Arrests are in the hundreds. And some of those trials are going to drag Trump and the GOP into the courtroom. Now would be a good time for some reporters to ask Merrick Garland about the possibility of appointing a Special Counsel to investigate the 1/6 attacks. Garland could then say something like "I haven't yet made a decision. I'm waiting to see what Congress does". A reply like that might put the fear of Christ up them, because they probably think they might be able to influence or control a Congressional Commission, but they know they would not be able to control a Special Counsel Investigation. Such and investigation would have subpoena power for witnesses, and there will be not DoJ lapdog giving out "Absolute Immunity".
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20th May 2021, 06:16 AM	#114
kookbreaker Evil Fokker Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 14,540	There was more damage to the Capitol that originally reported. https://mobile.twitter.com/MacFarlan...56845301276674
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20th May 2021, 06:38 AM	#115
Dr. Keith Not a doctor. Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 25,592	Originally Posted by kookbreaker There was more damage to the Capitol that originally reported. https://mobile.twitter.com/MacFarlan...56845301276674 That's silly. It was just a normal day at the capitol. Look you can't even tell the difference from photos.
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20th May 2021, 06:14 PM	#116
smartcooky Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Nelson, New Zealand Posts: 23,608	I have been watching the number of people charged slowy rising... we're now up to 493 "Capitol tourists".
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