The thread for stupidity from GQP politicians who don't have their own thread - Page 10

Ladewig · 15th April 2022, 08:30 PM

I know Don Jr isn’t a politician, but I have a question about him that is too small for a new thread.

Originally Posted by DonJr tweet

Elon Musk controlling Twitter and allowing for free speech is literally worse than Pearl Harbor!!!

You know it’s coming folks

What is he trying to say?

Norman Alexander · 15th April 2022, 09:16 PM

Originally Posted by Stacyhs

Funny...I didn't know "Nicely" is Ukrainian. Is potato?

Is potato-brain.

Norman Alexander · 15th April 2022, 09:18 PM

Originally Posted by Ladewig

I know Don Jr isn’t a politician, but I have a question about him that is too small for a new thread.

Originally Posted by Little Don

Elon Musk controlling Twitter and allowing for free speech is literally worse than Pearl Harbor!!!

You know it’s coming folks

What is he trying to say?

That he knows nothing about Elon Musk, Twitter, free speech, Pearl Harbour, or history in general.

Sorry, he's just confirming what we already know. There's nothing new here for us to learn.

Stacyhs · 16th April 2022, 12:46 AM

Originally Posted by Ladewig

They want whatever Trump wants at any particular moment.

Trump is still butthurt at the commission because after Trump was diagnosed with COVID, the commission decided that he should participate in the second debate from a remote location. Trump then refused to participate at all.

Basically, he took his ball and went home like a child when he couldn't get his way.

Stacyhs · 16th April 2022, 12:49 AM

Originally Posted by Ladewig

I know Don Jr isn’t a politician, but I have a question about him that is too small for a new thread.

What is he trying to say?

He's an idiot. And he's an emotionally scarred little boy still trying to get his Daddy's love.

Ladewig · 16th April 2022, 02:35 AM

Originally Posted by Norman Alexander

That he knows nothing about Elon Musk, Twitter, free speech, Pearl Harbour, or history in general.

Sorry, he's just confirming what we already know. There's nothing new here for us to learn.

He also knows nothing about what literally means.

But more specifically, if #45 is already banned from Twitter, why would Junior be upset about Musk wanting to champion free speech? Such a move cannot hurt daddy and depending on Musk’s understanding of free speech might very well help daddy.

jimbob · 16th April 2022, 03:58 AM

https://www.unilad.co.uk/news/senato...l?fr=operanews

Don't worry if you are homeless. Hitler lived on the streets for two years in 1910 and look what he achieved. He's an inspiration

Norman Alexander · 16th April 2022, 04:01 AM

Originally Posted by jimbob

https://www.unilad.co.uk/news/senato...l?fr=operanews

Don't worry if you are homeless. Hitler lived on the streets for two years in 1910 and look what he achieved. He's an inspiration

According to this Alter Sturmer, Hitler became FAMOUS!

Regnad Kcin · 16th April 2022, 07:53 PM

Originally Posted by Ladewig

I know Don Jr isn’t a politician, but I have a question about him that is too small for a new thread.

Originally Posted by DonJr tweet

Elon Musk controlling Twitter and allowing for free speech is literally worse than Pearl Harbor!!!

You know it’s coming folks

What is he trying to say?

I’ll take a crack:

“[The lunatic leftists are absolutely going to say] Elon Musk controlling Twitter and allowing free speech [meaning Trump will be back on] is literally worse than Pearl Bailey!!!”

Stacyhs · 17th April 2022, 11:32 AM

Florida has rejected 40 textbook submissions...MATH textbooks...for violating the state's new "Don't Say Gay" law because they allegedly contain CRT references. What? Do they contain things like "If a white cop stops 12 men at traffic stops and shoots 8, what percentage of the men were black?"

TheGoldcountry · 17th April 2022, 11:39 AM

Originally Posted by Stacyhs

Florida has rejected 40 textbook submissions...MATH textbooks...for violating the state's new "Don't Say Gay" law because they allegedly contain CRT references. What? Do they contain things like "If a white cop stops 12 men at traffic stops and shoots 8, what percentage of the men were black?"

"If a Republican is polling at 45%, how many black votes need to be suppressed in a district of 50,000? NOTE: ONE BLACK PERSON NO LONGER EQUALS 3/5 OF A VOTE."

RecoveringYuppy · 17th April 2022, 12:21 PM

Originally Posted by TheGoldcountry

"If a Republican is polling at 45%, how many black votes need to be suppressed in a district of 50,000? NOTE: ONE BLACK PERSON NO LONGER EQUALS 3/5 OF A VOTE."

Not to step on your joke, but note that the 3/5 of a vote that slave counted for wasn't their own vote. It was used for the number of that state's legislators in the House.

gnome · 17th April 2022, 12:35 PM

True it was really more of a question of "how many people that can't vote and are owned as property should count towards my state's legislative power?"

Zero would have been the better answer than three for every five.

TheGoldcountry · 17th April 2022, 12:36 PM

Originally Posted by RecoveringYuppy

Not to step on your joke, but note that the 3/5 of a vote that slave counted for wasn't their own vote. It was used for the number of that state's legislators in the House.

Yes, I know. I knew this would be the first response.

I was gilding the lily.

Armitage72 · 17th April 2022, 12:41 PM

It's interesting seeing the top headlines that come up with a Google search.

Washington Post:
"Florida rejects math textbooks for 'prohibited' topics including critical race theory"

CNN:
"Florida rejects several math textbooks from schools citing Critical Race"

Florida Department of Education:
"Florida Rejects Publishers' Attempts to Indoctrinate Students"

jimbob · 17th April 2022, 01:11 PM

Originally Posted by Regnad Kcin

Originally Posted by Ladewig

I know Don Jr isn’t a politician, but I have a question about him that is too small for a new thread.

Originally Posted by DonJr tweet

Elon Musk controlling Twitter and allowing for free speech is literally worse than Pearl Harbor!!!

You know it’s coming folks

What is he trying to say?

I’ll take a crack:

“[The lunatic leftists are absolutely going to say] Elon Musk controlling Twitter and allowing free speech [meaning Trump will be back on] is literally worse than Pearl Bailey!!!”

Fixed it for how I initially read it, which I thought would probably help with, for want of a better word, "comprehension".

mgidm86 · 17th April 2022, 03:16 PM

Originally Posted by Ladewig

I know Don Jr isn’t a politician, but I have a question about him that is too small for a new thread.

What is he trying to say?

He doesn't understand that what Musk wants is to allow people like Trump to spew his ******** on Twitter without restriction. He's upset about what he sees as "free speech violations", at least that's how I understand it. Musk is still a Trumper isn't he?

I could be wrong but since a Trump is saying one thing it is pretty safe for me to believe that the exact opposite is true.

Stacyhs · 17th April 2022, 04:00 PM

Originally Posted by mgidm86

He doesn't understand that what Musk wants is to allow people like Trump to spew his ******** on Twitter without restriction. He's upset about what he sees as "free speech violations", at least that's how I understand it. Musk is still a Trumper isn't he?

I could be wrong but since a Trump is saying one thing it is pretty safe for me to believe that the exact opposite is true.

No, and never has been a 'supporter'. But, he is not super anti-Trump either. He says he prefers to stay out of politics.

https://www.newsweek.com/elon-musk-d...witter-1697979

Ladewig · 17th April 2022, 04:21 PM

Originally Posted by Regnad Kcin

I’ll take a crack:

“[The lunatic leftists are absolutely going to say] Elon Musk controlling Twitter and allowing free speech [meaning Trump will be back on] is literally worse than Pearl Bailey!!!”

Yes, that was the only way I could make heads or tails of it, but I was lost as to how he could have gone from that thought to that post.

.
ETA
I guess it helps to remember that he does like that cocaine powder.

Donal · 18th April 2022, 07:22 AM

Originally Posted by Stacyhs

Florida has rejected 40 textbook submissions...MATH textbooks...for violating the state's new "Don't Say Gay" law because they allegedly contain CRT references. What? Do they contain things like "If a white cop stops 12 men at traffic stops and shoots 8, what percentage of the men were black?"

This goes back to the whole "show me what says that" nonsense proponents of the bill tried to use. No, the bill doesn't specifically use certain terms, but we all heard the rhetoric and hysteria leading up to it and around it. And the bill is vague enough that whatever someone gets a hair up their butt about and declares "controversial" is now banned.

That's exactly how Jim Crow laws worked.

Stacyhs · 18th April 2022, 01:32 PM

When asked by news media to present specific examples from the "rejected for illegal content" books, the FL Dept. of Education failed to do so.

Quote:

In a statement Friday, the Department of Education said 54 of 132 submitted textbooks, about 41%, were rejected for not conforming with the state's Benchmarks for Excellent Student Thinking (B.E.S.T.) Standards.

The rejected books included references to CRT, Common Core and Social Emotional Learning in mathematics, the department said.

The highest number of books rejected were for grades K-5, where 71% didn't meet the standards, the department said.

The department didn't give examples of which books were rejected or the standards that weren't met.

Quote:

"Math is about getting the right answer, and we want kids to learn to think so they can get the right answer, it's not about how you feel about the problem or to introduce some of these other things," DeSantis said.

Democrats said the move is the latest by the state to control public schools.

".@EducationFL just announced they're banning dozens of math textbooks they claim "indoctrinate" students with CRT. They won't tell us what they are or what they say b/c it’s a lie," Florida Rep. Carlos Smith tweeted. "#DeSantis has turned our classrooms into political battlefields and this is just the beginning."

https://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local/...dents/2738376/

CRT has never been, and isn't, taught in elementary schools. It's a college level or Advanced Placement High School course. This is just another 'create a boogeyman' for the GOP to clutch their pearls over.

Checkmite · 18th April 2022, 09:53 PM

Probably too many black-sounding character names in the word problems.

Jim_MDP · 19th April 2022, 01:34 PM

Originally Posted by Checkmite

Probably too many black-sounding character names in the word problems.

Someone tell me the "Maya Angelou was child raped by her sister's boyfriend" in an algebra problem example came from The Onion or somesuch. Please.
Can't find the article I saw that in.

And it was a crap question construction as well.

dasmiller · 19th April 2022, 02:19 PM

Originally Posted by Jim_MDP

Someone tell me the "Maya Angelou was child raped by her sister's boyfriend" in an algebra problem example came from The Onion or somesuch. Please.
Can't find the article I saw that in.

And it was a crap question construction as well.

It came from an online worksheet from around 2012, though AFAIK it is still available, though it's been toned down a bit. It was never part of a textbook. It comes up periodically as a controversial thing that some teacher has assigned.

Stacyhs · 19th April 2022, 02:54 PM

Originally Posted by dasmiller

It came from an online worksheet from around 2012, though AFAIK it is still available, though it's been toned down a bit. It was never part of a textbook. It comes up periodically as a controversial thing that some teacher has assigned.

Here is what you're referring to.

https://supercopyeditors.com/blog/wr...on-goes-viral/

It was part of a math worksheet that also included a "person puzzle" and intended for grades 10 and up which is obvious unless you think primary and middle schoolers are doing algebra. Also, it wasn't in a textbook but on a website that can be downloaded for use. This a parent having a conniption fit over it:

"Last night my wife brought to me a picture of MATH HOMEWORK, pictured below, from a student that she was tutoring that is in the Troy R-3 School District. Clearly this is not math homework, but an attempt to normalize sexual activity to our students behind the backs of parents!"

It does no such thing.

Originally Posted by Jim_MDP

Someone tell me the "Maya Angelou was child raped by her sister's boyfriend" in an algebra problem example came from The Onion or somesuch. Please.
Can't find the article I saw that in.

And it was a crap question construction as well.

Yes, it was part of a math question and that wasn't the question construction, either. See the link above.

bruto · 19th April 2022, 03:37 PM

Originally Posted by Jim_MDP

Someone tell me the "Maya Angelou was child raped by her sister's boyfriend" in an algebra problem example came from The Onion or somesuch. Please.
Can't find the article I saw that in.

And it was a crap question construction as well.

the only thing I've seen so far is an allegation that this appeared in Missouri schools, and that, supposedly, it also was used somewhere in Pennsylvania at some time. But the only source I've seen for that is a couple of far right web pages. I have seen no source on this that I would trust for impartiality. I was expecting maybe Snopes would have something by now, but it doesn't seem to. I imagine something will come up soon.

dasmiller · 19th April 2022, 03:50 PM

Originally Posted by Stacyhs

It was part of a math worksheet that also included a "person puzzle" and intended for grades 10 and up which is obvious unless you think primary and middle schoolers are doing algebra.

I think I understand the intent & motivation behind the original creation of the sheet, but I think the combination of math and Maya Angelou's biography is...weird and probably unproductive. I'm okay with teaching either thing separately, but I don't think they should be combined, and especially not like that.

But that's just a teaching-strategy issue, not a moral issue.

Quote:

Also, it wasn't in a textbook but on a website that can be downloaded for use. This a parent having a conniption fit over it:

"Last night my wife brought to me a picture of MATH HOMEWORK, pictured below, from a student that she was tutoring that is in the Troy R-3 School District. Clearly this is not math homework, but an attempt to normalize sexual activity to our students behind the backs of parents!"

It does no such thing.

I know that such things were said, but I don't see how anyone who's actually read the worksheet could possibly interpret it that way. It's like saying that Jaws was an attempt to normalize skinny-dipping.

Stacyhs · 19th April 2022, 04:17 PM

Originally Posted by dasmiller

I think I understand the intent & motivation behind the original creation of the sheet, but I think the combination of math and Maya Angelou's biography is...weird and probably unproductive. I'm okay with teaching either thing separately, but I don't think they should be combined, and especially not like that.

But that's just a teaching-strategy issue, not a moral issue.

As a former teacher, I think the concept is fine but those two "fill in the blanks" were not a good choice by the creator of the worksheet. I could have seen the reaction of some parents a mile away and would never have used it.

Quote:

I know that such things were said, but I don't see how anyone who's actually read the worksheet could possibly interpret it that way. It's like saying that Jaws was an attempt to normalize skinny-dipping.

Breaking news: people can be very, very stupid.

Checkmite · 19th April 2022, 04:45 PM

It's kind of stupid. Firstly, the "assignment" didn't come from a textbook, and the incident in regards to it didn't happen in Florida.

But even if it had, how does the fact that a person was raped as a child appearing in a quiz equate to "teaching critical race theory"? Is conveying the fact that a black person suffered any hardship at all, whether or not the harm is even alleged to be an act of racism, automatically "CRT"?

Oh what am I saying, of course it is.

Aridas · 19th April 2022, 09:10 PM

Not quite a politician thing, but close enough, I think, given the state of the Republican Party.

Quote:

Jesse Watters jokes about how he courted a woman 14 years his junior. He let the air out of her tires so he could offer her a ride home. He leaves out that he was married at the time. This is some stalker nonsense. She also worked for him. It's a Fox News love story

To poke at something more directly said by Republican lawmakers, though, here's an accusation of grooming and a powerful refutation of it.

Stacyhs · 20th April 2022, 12:05 AM

Originally Posted by Aridas

Not quite a politician thing, but close enough, I think, given the state of the Republican Party.

To poke at something more directly said by Republican lawmakers, though, here's an accusation of grooming and a powerful refutation of it.

I hope McMorrow made Theis feel ashamed of herself. But, I doubt it. People like Theis have no shame. Not only is what Theis said disgusting and stupid, it's also lazy because she's just parroting the latest GOP idiocy. She's not a leader, she's a follower.

dudalb · 20th April 2022, 02:08 PM

Florida is making itself a state that people will not want to visit.
FOr a state that is so dependent on tourism that is just crazy.

dudalb · 20th April 2022, 02:11 PM

Originally Posted by Stacyhs

When asked by news media to present specific examples from the "rejected for illegal content" books, the FL Dept. of Education failed to do so.

https://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local/...dents/2738376/

CRT has never been, and isn't, taught in elementary schools. It's a college level or Advanced Placement High School course. This is just another 'create a boogeyman' for the GOP to clutch their pearls over.

This, Most people shouting about Critical Race Theory don't know what it is.
Actual CRT I am not crazy about as a theory...it has too much of an agenda for me and it usually pretty distorted...but this has nothing to do with the crap going on in Florida.

slyjoe · 20th April 2022, 03:10 PM

Originally Posted by dudalb

Florida is making itself a state that people will not want to visit.
FOr a state that is so dependent on tourism that is just crazy.

I think they are fine with burning everything down to own the libs.

Florida and Texas are both on my lists of places to not visit. Florida is full of old people and bugs. Texas is full of Texans.

kevbo · 20th April 2022, 04:52 PM

Originally Posted by slyjoe

I think they are fine with burning everything down to own the libs.

Florida and Texas are both on my lists of places to not visit. Florida is full of old people and bugs. Texas is full of Texans.

Stacyhs · 20th April 2022, 04:54 PM

Originally Posted by slyjoe

I think they are fine with burning everything down to own the libs.

Florida and Texas are both on my lists of places to not visit. Florida is full of old people and bugs. Texas is full of Texans.

I won't go to either state. Crazy does not attract me.

ETA: De Santis is actually up in the polls for re-election. Just goes to show that bigotry, intolerance, and being a Trump wanna-be is big in FL. No, thanks.

kookbreaker · 20th April 2022, 08:31 PM

Originally Posted by dudalb

This, Most people shouting about Critical Race Theory don't know what it is.
Actual CRT I am not crazy about as a theory...it has too much of an agenda for me and it usually pretty distorted...but this has nothing to do with the crap going on in Florida.

It’s a convenient bugaboo to get the GQP riled up.

Dr. Keith · 20th April 2022, 08:46 PM

Originally Posted by slyjoe

I think they are fine with burning everything down to own the libs.

Florida and Texas are both on my lists of places to not visit. Florida is full of old people and bugs. Texas is full of Texans.

Fair.

bruto · 21st April 2022, 07:58 AM

Originally Posted by slyjoe

I think they are fine with burning everything down to own the libs.

Florida and Texas are both on my lists of places to not visit. Florida is full of old people and bugs. Texas is full of Texans.

But at least it will be safe from space pirates!

slyjoe · 21st April 2022, 11:06 AM

Originally Posted by Dr. Keith

Fair.

Kind of ironic too; I live in Arizona.

15th April 2022, 08:30 PM	#361
Ladewig I lost an avatar bet. Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 28,767	I know Don Jr isn’t a politician, but I have a question about him that is too small for a new thread. Originally Posted by DonJr tweet Elon Musk controlling Twitter and allowing for free speech is literally worse than Pearl Harbor!!! You know it’s coming folks What is he trying to say?
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15th April 2022, 09:16 PM	#362
Norman Alexander Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Dharug & Gundungurra Posts: 14,982	Originally Posted by Stacyhs Funny...I didn't know "Nicely" is Ukrainian. Is potato? Is potato-brain.
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15th April 2022, 09:18 PM	#363
Norman Alexander Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Dharug & Gundungurra Posts: 14,982	Originally Posted by Ladewig I know Don Jr isn’t a politician, but I have a question about him that is too small for a new thread. Originally Posted by Little Don Elon Musk controlling Twitter and allowing for free speech is literally worse than Pearl Harbor!!! You know it’s coming folks What is he trying to say? That he knows nothing about Elon Musk, Twitter, free speech, Pearl Harbour, or history in general. Sorry, he's just confirming what we already know. There's nothing new here for us to learn.
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16th April 2022, 02:35 AM	#366
Ladewig I lost an avatar bet. Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 28,767	Originally Posted by Norman Alexander That he knows nothing about Elon Musk, Twitter, free speech, Pearl Harbour, or history in general. Sorry, he's just confirming what we already know. There's nothing new here for us to learn. He also knows nothing about what literally means. But more specifically, if #45 is already banned from Twitter, why would Junior be upset about Musk wanting to champion free speech? Such a move cannot hurt daddy and depending on Musk’s understanding of free speech might very well help daddy.
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16th April 2022, 03:58 AM	#367
jimbob Uncritical "thinker" Moderator Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: UK Posts: 30,065	https://www.unilad.co.uk/news/senato...l?fr=operanews Don't worry if you are homeless. Hitler lived on the streets for two years in 1910 and look what he achieved. He's an inspiration
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16th April 2022, 12:46 AM	#364
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 30,320	Originally Posted by Ladewig They want whatever Trump wants at any particular moment. Trump is still butthurt at the commission because after Trump was diagnosed with COVID, the commission decided that he should participate in the second debate from a remote location. Trump then refused to participate at all. Basically, he took his ball and went home like a child when he couldn't get his way.

16th April 2022, 12:49 AM	#365
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 30,320	Originally Posted by Ladewig I know Don Jr isn’t a politician, but I have a question about him that is too small for a new thread. What is he trying to say? He's an idiot. And he's an emotionally scarred little boy still trying to get his Daddy's love.

16th April 2022, 04:01 AM	#368
Norman Alexander Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Dharug & Gundungurra Posts: 14,982	Originally Posted by jimbob https://www.unilad.co.uk/news/senato...l?fr=operanews Don't worry if you are homeless. Hitler lived on the streets for two years in 1910 and look what he achieved. He's an inspiration According to this Alter Sturmer, Hitler became FAMOUS!
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16th April 2022, 07:53 PM	#369
Regnad Kcin Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: The old Same place Posts: 10,842	Originally Posted by Ladewig I know Don Jr isn’t a politician, but I have a question about him that is too small for a new thread. Originally Posted by DonJr tweet Elon Musk controlling Twitter and allowing for free speech is literally worse than Pearl Harbor!!! You know it’s coming folks What is he trying to say? I’ll take a crack: “[The lunatic leftists are absolutely going to say] Elon Musk controlling Twitter and allowing free speech [meaning Trump will be back on] is literally worse than Pearl Bailey!!!”
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17th April 2022, 11:32 AM	#370
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 30,320	Florida has rejected 40 textbook submissions...MATH textbooks...for violating the state's new "Don't Say Gay" law because they allegedly contain CRT references. What? Do they contain things like "If a white cop stops 12 men at traffic stops and shoots 8, what percentage of the men were black?"

17th April 2022, 11:39 AM	#371
TheGoldcountry Philosopher Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 7,657	Originally Posted by Stacyhs Florida has rejected 40 textbook submissions...MATH textbooks...for violating the state's new "Don't Say Gay" law because they allegedly contain CRT references. What? Do they contain things like "If a white cop stops 12 men at traffic stops and shoots 8, what percentage of the men were black?" "If a Republican is polling at 45%, how many black votes need to be suppressed in a district of 50,000? NOTE: ONE BLACK PERSON NO LONGER EQUALS 3/5 OF A VOTE."
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17th April 2022, 12:21 PM	#372
RecoveringYuppy Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 14,185	Originally Posted by TheGoldcountry "If a Republican is polling at 45%, how many black votes need to be suppressed in a district of 50,000? NOTE: ONE BLACK PERSON NO LONGER EQUALS 3/5 OF A VOTE." Not to step on your joke, but note that the 3/5 of a vote that slave counted for wasn't their own vote. It was used for the number of that state's legislators in the House.

17th April 2022, 12:35 PM	#373
gnome Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 13,764	True it was really more of a question of "how many people that can't vote and are owned as property should count towards my state's legislative power?" Zero would have been the better answer than three for every five.
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17th April 2022, 12:36 PM	#374
TheGoldcountry Philosopher Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 7,657	Originally Posted by RecoveringYuppy Not to step on your joke, but note that the 3/5 of a vote that slave counted for wasn't their own vote. It was used for the number of that state's legislators in the House. Yes, I know. I knew this would be the first response. I was gilding the lily.
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17th April 2022, 12:41 PM	#375
Armitage72 Philosopher Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 7,825	It's interesting seeing the top headlines that come up with a Google search. Washington Post: "Florida rejects math textbooks for 'prohibited' topics including critical race theory" CNN: "Florida rejects several math textbooks from schools citing Critical Race" Florida Department of Education: "Florida Rejects Publishers' Attempts to Indoctrinate Students"

17th April 2022, 01:11 PM	#376
jimbob Uncritical "thinker" Moderator Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: UK Posts: 30,065	Originally Posted by Regnad Kcin Originally Posted by Ladewig I know Don Jr isn’t a politician, but I have a question about him that is too small for a new thread. Originally Posted by DonJr tweet Elon Musk controlling Twitter and allowing for free speech is literally worse than Pearl Harbor!!! You know it’s coming folks What is he trying to say? I’ll take a crack: “[The lunatic leftists are absolutely going to say] Elon Musk controlling Twitter and allowing free speech [meaning Trump will be back on] is literally worse than Pearl Bailey!!!” Fixed it for how I initially read it, which I thought would probably help with, for want of a better word, "comprehension".
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17th April 2022, 03:16 PM	#377
mgidm86 Philosopher Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,624	Originally Posted by Ladewig I know Don Jr isn’t a politician, but I have a question about him that is too small for a new thread. What is he trying to say? He doesn't understand that what Musk wants is to allow people like Trump to spew his ******** on Twitter without restriction. He's upset about what he sees as "free speech violations", at least that's how I understand it. Musk is still a Trumper isn't he? I could be wrong but since a Trump is saying one thing it is pretty safe for me to believe that the exact opposite is true.
mgidm86 Philosopher Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,624	__________________ Why bother?

17th April 2022, 04:00 PM	#378
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 30,320	Originally Posted by mgidm86 He doesn't understand that what Musk wants is to allow people like Trump to spew his ******** on Twitter without restriction. He's upset about what he sees as "free speech violations", at least that's how I understand it. Musk is still a Trumper isn't he? I could be wrong but since a Trump is saying one thing it is pretty safe for me to believe that the exact opposite is true. No, and never has been a 'supporter'. But, he is not super anti-Trump either. He says he prefers to stay out of politics. https://www.newsweek.com/elon-musk-d...witter-1697979

17th April 2022, 04:21 PM	#379
Ladewig I lost an avatar bet. Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 28,767	Originally Posted by Regnad Kcin I’ll take a crack: “[The lunatic leftists are absolutely going to say] Elon Musk controlling Twitter and allowing free speech [meaning Trump will be back on] is literally worse than Pearl Bailey!!!” Yes, that was the only way I could make heads or tails of it, but I was lost as to how he could have gone from that thought to that post. . ETA I guess it helps to remember that he does like that cocaine powder.
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18th April 2022, 07:22 AM	#380
Donal Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 5,628	Originally Posted by Stacyhs Florida has rejected 40 textbook submissions...MATH textbooks...for violating the state's new "Don't Say Gay" law because they allegedly contain CRT references. What? Do they contain things like "If a white cop stops 12 men at traffic stops and shoots 8, what percentage of the men were black?" This goes back to the whole "show me what says that" nonsense proponents of the bill tried to use. No, the bill doesn't specifically use certain terms, but we all heard the rhetoric and hysteria leading up to it and around it. And the bill is vague enough that whatever someone gets a hair up their butt about and declares "controversial" is now banned. That's exactly how Jim Crow laws worked.
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18th April 2022, 01:32 PM	#381
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 30,320	When asked by news media to present specific examples from the "rejected for illegal content" books, the FL Dept. of Education failed to do so. Quote: In a statement Friday, the Department of Education said 54 of 132 submitted textbooks, about 41%, were rejected for not conforming with the state's Benchmarks for Excellent Student Thinking (B.E.S.T.) Standards. The rejected books included references to CRT, Common Core and Social Emotional Learning in mathematics, the department said. The highest number of books rejected were for grades K-5, where 71% didn't meet the standards, the department said. The department didn't give examples of which books were rejected or the standards that weren't met. Quote: "Math is about getting the right answer, and we want kids to learn to think so they can get the right answer, it's not about how you feel about the problem or to introduce some of these other things," DeSantis said. Democrats said the move is the latest by the state to control public schools. ".@EducationFL just announced they're banning dozens of math textbooks they claim "indoctrinate" students with CRT. They won't tell us what they are or what they say b/c it’s a lie," Florida Rep. Carlos Smith tweeted. "#DeSantis has turned our classrooms into political battlefields and this is just the beginning." https://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local/...dents/2738376/ CRT has never been, and isn't, taught in elementary schools. It's a college level or Advanced Placement High School course. This is just another 'create a boogeyman' for the GOP to clutch their pearls over.

18th April 2022, 09:53 PM	#382
Checkmite Skepticifimisticalationist Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Gulf Coast Posts: 28,236	Probably too many black-sounding character names in the word problems.
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19th April 2022, 01:34 PM	#383
Jim_MDP Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: N.Cal/S.Or Posts: 9,399	Originally Posted by Checkmite Probably too many black-sounding character names in the word problems. Someone tell me the "Maya Angelou was child raped by her sister's boyfriend" in an algebra problem example came from The Onion or somesuch. Please. Can't find the article I saw that in. And it was a crap question construction as well.
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19th April 2022, 02:19 PM	#384
dasmiller Just the right amount of cowbell Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Well past Hither, looking for Yon Posts: 6,671	Originally Posted by Jim_MDP Someone tell me the "Maya Angelou was child raped by her sister's boyfriend" in an algebra problem example came from The Onion or somesuch. Please. Can't find the article I saw that in. And it was a crap question construction as well. It came from an online worksheet from around 2012, though AFAIK it is still available, though it's been toned down a bit. It was never part of a textbook. It comes up periodically as a controversial thing that some teacher has assigned.
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19th April 2022, 02:54 PM	#385
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 30,320	Originally Posted by dasmiller It came from an online worksheet from around 2012, though AFAIK it is still available, though it's been toned down a bit. It was never part of a textbook. It comes up periodically as a controversial thing that some teacher has assigned. Here is what you're referring to. https://supercopyeditors.com/blog/wr...on-goes-viral/ It was part of a math worksheet that also included a "person puzzle" and intended for grades 10 and up which is obvious unless you think primary and middle schoolers are doing algebra. Also, it wasn't in a textbook but on a website that can be downloaded for use. This a parent having a conniption fit over it: "Last night my wife brought to me a picture of MATH HOMEWORK, pictured below, from a student that she was tutoring that is in the Troy R-3 School District. Clearly this is not math homework, but an attempt to normalize sexual activity to our students behind the backs of parents!" It does no such thing. Originally Posted by Jim_MDP Someone tell me the "Maya Angelou was child raped by her sister's boyfriend" in an algebra problem example came from The Onion or somesuch. Please. Can't find the article I saw that in. And it was a crap question construction as well. Yes, it was part of a math question and that wasn't the question construction, either. See the link above.
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19th April 2022, 03:37 PM	#386
bruto Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Way way north of Diddy Wah Diddy Posts: 34,758	Originally Posted by Jim_MDP Someone tell me the "Maya Angelou was child raped by her sister's boyfriend" in an algebra problem example came from The Onion or somesuch. Please. Can't find the article I saw that in. And it was a crap question construction as well. the only thing I've seen so far is an allegation that this appeared in Missouri schools, and that, supposedly, it also was used somewhere in Pennsylvania at some time. But the only source I've seen for that is a couple of far right web pages. I have seen no source on this that I would trust for impartiality. I was expecting maybe Snopes would have something by now, but it doesn't seem to. I imagine something will come up soon.
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19th April 2022, 03:50 PM	#387
dasmiller Just the right amount of cowbell Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Well past Hither, looking for Yon Posts: 6,671	Originally Posted by Stacyhs It was part of a math worksheet that also included a "person puzzle" and intended for grades 10 and up which is obvious unless you think primary and middle schoolers are doing algebra. I think I understand the intent & motivation behind the original creation of the sheet, but I think the combination of math and Maya Angelou's biography is...weird and probably unproductive. I'm okay with teaching either thing separately, but I don't think they should be combined, and especially not like that. But that's just a teaching-strategy issue, not a moral issue. Quote: Also, it wasn't in a textbook but on a website that can be downloaded for use. This a parent having a conniption fit over it: "Last night my wife brought to me a picture of MATH HOMEWORK, pictured below, from a student that she was tutoring that is in the Troy R-3 School District. Clearly this is not math homework, but an attempt to normalize sexual activity to our students behind the backs of parents!" It does no such thing. I know that such things were said, but I don't see how anyone who's actually read the worksheet could possibly interpret it that way. It's like saying that Jaws was an attempt to normalize skinny-dipping.
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19th April 2022, 04:17 PM	#388
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 30,320	Originally Posted by dasmiller I think I understand the intent & motivation behind the original creation of the sheet, but I think the combination of math and Maya Angelou's biography is...weird and probably unproductive. I'm okay with teaching either thing separately, but I don't think they should be combined, and especially not like that. But that's just a teaching-strategy issue, not a moral issue. As a former teacher, I think the concept is fine but those two "fill in the blanks" were not a good choice by the creator of the worksheet. I could have seen the reaction of some parents a mile away and would never have used it. Quote: I know that such things were said, but I don't see how anyone who's actually read the worksheet could possibly interpret it that way. It's like saying that Jaws was an attempt to normalize skinny-dipping. Breaking news: people can be very, very stupid.

19th April 2022, 04:45 PM	#389
Checkmite Skepticifimisticalationist Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Gulf Coast Posts: 28,236	It's kind of stupid. Firstly, the "assignment" didn't come from a textbook, and the incident in regards to it didn't happen in Florida. But even if it had, how does the fact that a person was raped as a child appearing in a quiz equate to "teaching critical race theory"? Is conveying the fact that a black person suffered any hardship at all, whether or not the harm is even alleged to be an act of racism, automatically "CRT"? Oh what am I saying, of course it is.
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19th April 2022, 09:10 PM	#390
Aridas Crazy Little Green Dragon Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: East Coast, US Posts: 9,946	Not quite a politician thing, but close enough, I think, given the state of the Republican Party. Quote: Jesse Watters jokes about how he courted a woman 14 years his junior. He let the air out of her tires so he could offer her a ride home. He leaves out that he was married at the time. This is some stalker nonsense. She also worked for him. It's a Fox News love story To poke at something more directly said by Republican lawmakers, though, here's an accusation of grooming and a powerful refutation of it.
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20th April 2022, 12:05 AM	#391
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 30,320	Originally Posted by Aridas Not quite a politician thing, but close enough, I think, given the state of the Republican Party. To poke at something more directly said by Republican lawmakers, though, here's an accusation of grooming and a powerful refutation of it. I hope McMorrow made Theis feel ashamed of herself. But, I doubt it. People like Theis have no shame. Not only is what Theis said disgusting and stupid, it's also lazy because she's just parroting the latest GOP idiocy. She's not a leader, she's a follower.

20th April 2022, 02:08 PM	#392
dudalb Suspended Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sacramento Posts: 58,604	Florida is making itself a state that people will not want to visit. FOr a state that is so dependent on tourism that is just crazy.

20th April 2022, 02:11 PM	#393
dudalb Suspended Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sacramento Posts: 58,604	Originally Posted by Stacyhs When asked by news media to present specific examples from the "rejected for illegal content" books, the FL Dept. of Education failed to do so. https://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local/...dents/2738376/ CRT has never been, and isn't, taught in elementary schools. It's a college level or Advanced Placement High School course. This is just another 'create a boogeyman' for the GOP to clutch their pearls over. This, Most people shouting about Critical Race Theory don't know what it is. Actual CRT I am not crazy about as a theory...it has too much of an agenda for me and it usually pretty distorted...but this has nothing to do with the crap going on in Florida.

20th April 2022, 03:10 PM	#394
slyjoe Illuminator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Near Harmonica Virgins, AZ Posts: 3,502	Originally Posted by dudalb Florida is making itself a state that people will not want to visit. FOr a state that is so dependent on tourism that is just crazy. I think they are fine with burning everything down to own the libs. Florida and Texas are both on my lists of places to not visit. Florida is full of old people and bugs. Texas is full of Texans.
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20th April 2022, 04:52 PM	#395
kevbo Critical Thinker Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Rogue Valley, Oregon Posts: 376	Originally Posted by slyjoe I think they are fine with burning everything down to own the libs. Florida and Texas are both on my lists of places to not visit. Florida is full of old people and bugs. Texas is full of Texans.