The thread for stupidity from GQP politicians who don't have their own thread - Page 4

shemp · 15th January 2022, 09:30 PM

Originally Posted by Gord_in_Toronto

Oh dear me.

Glenn Beck said he didn’t need the vaccine – now he’s very sick with COVID and taking ivermectin

https://www.salon.com/2022/01/13/gle...ectin_partner/

Whatsamatter? "Dr" Herschel Walker's dry mist cure did not work? I'd ask for your money back.

Just spray some Lysol down his throat, he'll be fine.

Fidelio · 16th January 2022, 06:31 AM

Originally Posted by Regnad Kcin

Why do you hate football?

Indeed, I've watched Herschel's career from high school, to football, to astronomer (he discovered Uranus ya know) to renowned right wing medical crackpot. So don't go dissin' me bud Herschel!

Dammit!

Stacyhs · 17th January 2022, 01:24 AM

Originally Posted by Fidelio

Indeed, I've watched Herschel's career from high school, to football, to astronomer (he discovered Uranus ya know) to renowned right wing medical crackpot. So don't go dissin' me bud Herschel!

Dammit!

He sounds to me like he should volunteer for that research program on footballers and concussions related brain damage.

slyjoe · 17th January 2022, 07:11 AM

Originally Posted by Stacyhs

He sounds to me like he should volunteer for that research program on footballers and concussions related brain damage.

Heh.

ponderingturtle · 17th January 2022, 10:40 AM

Originally Posted by Stacyhs

According to GOP Senator Tommy Tuberville, we were fighting to “free Europe of socialism."

" I tell people, my dad fought 76 years ago in Europe to free Europe of socialism."

As the Nazis were fascists, not socialists, I guess we weren't. Silly me.

You are assuming his dad was fighting against the nazis.

bruto · 17th January 2022, 03:35 PM

Originally Posted by Stacyhs

According to GOP Senator Tommy Tuberville, we were fighting to “free Europe of socialism."

" I tell people, my dad fought 76 years ago in Europe to free Europe of socialism."

As the Nazis were fascists, not socialists, I guess we weren't. Silly me.

He must have **** himself when he realized the Russians were our allies!

Stacyhs · 17th January 2022, 04:35 PM

Originally Posted by bruto

He must have **** himself when he realized the Russians were our allies!

Oh, I dunno. The current GOP seems to have no problems with the Russians.

Norman Alexander · 17th January 2022, 06:08 PM

Originally Posted by Stacyhs

Oh, I dunno. The current GOP seems to have no problems with the Russians.

They pay well!

bruto · 17th January 2022, 08:02 PM

Originally Posted by Stacyhs

Oh, I dunno. The current GOP seems to have no problems with the Russians.

True, but those nice friendly trumpetteers were big bad commies back then.

Of course these days I think half the population thinks the phrase "fight fire with fire" means you should toss the water and fill your bucket with gasoline.

Ladewig · 17th January 2022, 08:11 PM

Originally Posted by Stacyhs

According to GOP Senator Tommy Tuberville, we were fighting to “free Europe of socialism."

" I tell people, my dad fought 76 years ago in Europe to free Europe of socialism."

As the Nazis were fascists, not socialists, I guess we weren't. Silly me.

It’s weird how in 1945 we allegedly hated socialism and in 1948 we loved it. I mean the Berliners didn’t pay for the food we were airlifting - that’s socialism, right?

carlitos · 17th January 2022, 08:26 PM

Originally Posted by shemp

Just spray some Lysol down his throat, he'll be fine.

Swallow a tanning bulb. The UV light kills it very quickly, in a matter of a minute or two.

ponderingturtle · 18th January 2022, 07:08 AM

Originally Posted by Ladewig

It’s weird how in 1945 we allegedly hated socialism and in 1948 we loved it. I mean the Berliners didn’t pay for the food we were airlifting - that’s socialism, right?

The problem is that you have basic historical literacy, when all you need to be a senator is being a college football coach.

Donal · 18th January 2022, 09:27 AM

Originally Posted by ponderingturtle

The problem is that you have basic historical literacy, when all you need to be a senator is being a college football coach.

Or have a rich daddy. Or be on TV. Or commit a racially motivated killing (anticipating Senator Rittenhouse's tenure).

JoeMorgue · 18th January 2022, 09:40 AM

Basically how many problems across wide swaths of society really boil down to "You can be wrong, even intentionally, and never face any consequence or indeed any reaction at all because of it?"

Stacyhs · 18th January 2022, 01:31 PM

Originally Posted by ponderingturtle

The problem is that you have basic historical literacy, when all you need to be a senator is being a college football coach.

Or have your nose firmly stuck up Trump's rectum in a red state.

In the Party of Trump, literacy of any kind is not deemed an asset. Gaslighting the stupid and/or uneducated is so much easier.

JoeMorgue · 20th January 2022, 09:54 AM

McConnell said the quiet part out loud again.

In response to (valid but that's neither here nor there) complaints about their blatant vote suppression efforts McConnell said:

"Well, the concern is misplaced, because if you look at the statistics, African American voters are voting at just as high a percentage as Americans."

bruto · 20th January 2022, 11:45 AM

Originally Posted by JoeMorgue

McConnell said the quiet part out loud again.

In response to (valid but that's neither here nor there) complaints about their blatant vote suppression efforts McConnell said:

"Well, the concern is misplaced, because if you look at the statistics, African American voters are voting at just as high a percentage as Americans."

Wow. I bet he doesn't even realize the depth of what he said, either.

JoeMorgue · 20th January 2022, 12:13 PM

Originally Posted by bruto

Wow. I bet he doesn't even realize the depth of what he said, either.

Well let's found out.

TROLLS! OH TROLLS! Come tell us why this doesn't matter and we're just being dramatic and ohwhatabouta....

Segnosaur · 20th January 2022, 01:13 PM

Originally Posted by JoeMorgue

McConnell said the quiet part out loud again.

In response to (valid but that's neither here nor there) complaints about their blatant vote suppression efforts McConnell said:

"Well, the concern is misplaced, because if you look at the statistics, African American voters are voting at just as high a percentage as Americans."

Even if you give him the benefit of the doubt and assume he meant "African American voters are voting at same percentage as white voters", he would still be wrong.

In 2016, 58% of white people voted, but only 56% of african Americans
did. In 2020, the gap was even bigger: 64% of white voters, 59% of African americans. (The only years when a higher percentage of african americans voted was in 2008 and 2012, when they were able to select someone born in Nigeria

)

See: Statista

JoeMorgue · 20th January 2022, 01:14 PM

Well that's exactly what he was doing. Saying something offensive to distract from the fact that he was wrong.

bruto · 20th January 2022, 01:22 PM

Originally Posted by JoeMorgue

Well that's exactly what he was doing. Saying something offensive to distract from the fact that he was wrong.

Because of course in the Republican value system being both wrong and offensive at the same time is a twofer.

JoeMorgue · 31st January 2022, 01:47 PM

In our continuing coverage of "You said the quiet part out loud..."

Mark Peake, a Republican State Senator from Virginia, openly admitted on the Virginia Senate floor that intended purpose of a proposed "rEligIouS FrEeDoM" bill was to protect the discrimination of gay people under the law.

Quote:

“You are correct, what you said is correct. They would be allowed to discriminate against people that they do not feel follow their religious beliefs. This is the whole point of it, is for their religious beliefs, and it gives them the ability to discriminate against people that conflict with their religious beliefs.”

Then he chuckled, saying, “I think that is the substance of this bill.”

https://www.losangelesblade.com/2022...-lgbtq-people/

And again we're going to, I think, have more and more of these moments. The Republicans want to say it. It kills them that they have pussyfoot around it. They want to go "I'm wrong, I'm hateful, but I'm power and you can't stop me."

ponderingturtle · 31st January 2022, 01:53 PM

Originally Posted by JoeMorgue

In our continuing coverage of "You said the quiet part out loud..."

Mark Peake, a Republican State Senator from Virginia, openly admitted on the Virginia Senate floor that intended purpose of a proposed "rEligIouS FrEeDoM" bill was to protect the discrimination of gay people under the law.

Come on it is not to just discriminate against gay people, it is also to discriminate against the jews.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...-them-services

Exactly as intended. Jews need to know what Tennessee thinks of them.

Armitage72 · 31st January 2022, 02:35 PM

Originally Posted by JoeMorgue

In our continuing coverage of "You said the quiet part out loud..."

Mark Peake, a Republican State Senator from Virginia, openly admitted on the Virginia Senate floor that intended purpose of a proposed "rEligIouS FrEeDoM" bill was to protect the discrimination of gay people under the law.

I haven't read the text of the Bill, but it would be ironic if it ended up like Louisiana allowing state vouchers to be used for religious schools and being horrified to discover that Muslim schools were eligible.
"It was only supposed to apply to our religion."

"I'm sorry, but this is a Wiccan-run business and your beliefs are unacceptable to us."

JoeMorgue · 31st January 2022, 02:40 PM

Originally Posted by Armitage72

"It was only supposed to apply to our religion."

Mark my words, they are going to get more comfortable putting that in the text instead of the subtext.

Again they want to say it. I think they are getting sick of playing the game.

Stacyhs · 31st January 2022, 02:55 PM

Originally Posted by JoeMorgue

In our continuing coverage of "You said the quiet part out loud..."

Mark Peake, a Republican State Senator from Virginia, openly admitted on the Virginia Senate floor that intended purpose of a proposed "rEligIouS FrEeDoM" bill was to protect the discrimination of gay people under the law.

https://www.losangelesblade.com/2022...-lgbtq-people/

And again we're going to, I think, have more and more of these moments. The Republicans want to say it. It kills them that they have pussyfoot around it. They want to go "I'm wrong, I'm hateful, but I'm power and you can't stop me."

Trump legitimized the things they didn't used to say out loud but only within their own circles. You know, inside those private right wing websites, etc that another member said were easy to find online. Links to which were never produced when requested. Repeatedly.

Beelzebuddy · 31st January 2022, 03:15 PM

Originally Posted by Stacyhs

Trump legitimized the things they didn't used to say out loud but only within their own circles. You know, inside those private right wing websites, etc that another member said were easy to find online. Links to which were never produced when requested. Repeatedly.

When you first started asking people for this I thought you were being sarcastic, but you keep bringing it up. Are you honestly having diffculty finding groups of racist dickbags on the internet? Have you tried throwing a rock?

Stacyhs · 31st January 2022, 06:16 PM

Originally Posted by Beelzebuddy

When you first started asking people for this I thought you were being sarcastic, but you keep bringing it up. Are you honestly having diffculty finding groups of racist dickbags on the internet? Have you tried throwing a rock?

I wasn't asking 'people' for this; I asked one person who claimed that we could know how right wingers interpreted Glenn Beck's painting. I said that racists (yes, I know, not all right wingers are racists) would not necessarily tend to express their racism in public but would among those of like mind as in private groups. He said those closed groups were plentiful on the internet and we could read them. I asked for links to any of these groups. None was.

Quote:

Are you honestly having diffculty finding groups of racist dickbags on the internet? Have you tried throwing a rock?

It wasn't my claim so why should I, nor did I, spend any time looking for racist dickbags discussing Glenn Beck's painting?

Beelzebuddy · 1st February 2022, 06:15 AM

Well, that one person doesn't appear to be in this thread, so why bring it up here?

Stacyhs · 1st February 2022, 03:43 PM

Originally Posted by JoeMorgue

In our continuing coverage of "You said the quiet part out loud..."

Mark Peake, a Republican State Senator from Virginia, openly admitted on the Virginia Senate floor that intended purpose of a proposed "rEligIouS FrEeDoM" bill was to protect the discrimination of gay people under the law.

https://www.losangelesblade.com/2022...-lgbtq-people/

And again we're going to, I think, have more and more of these moments. The Republicans want to say it. It kills them that they have pussyfoot around it. They want to go "I'm wrong, I'm hateful, but I'm power and you can't stop me."

Originally Posted by Stacyhs

Trump legitimized the things they didn't used to say out loud but only within their own circles. You know, inside those private right wing websites, etc that another member said were easy to find online. Links to which were never produced when requested. Repeatedly.

Originally Posted by Beelzebuddy

When you first started asking people for this I thought you were being sarcastic, but you keep bringing it up. Are you honestly having diffculty finding groups of racist dickbags on the internet? Have you tried throwing a rock?

Originally Posted by Stacyhs

I wasn't asking 'people' for this; I asked one person who claimed that we could know how right wingers interpreted Glenn Beck's painting. I said that racists (yes, I know, not all right wingers are racists) would not necessarily tend to express their racism in public but would among those of like mind as in private groups. He said those closed groups were plentiful on the internet and we could read them. I asked for links to any of these groups. None was.

It wasn't my claim so why should I, nor did I, spend any time looking for racist dickbags discussing Glenn Beck's painting?

Originally Posted by Beelzebuddy

Well, that one person doesn't appear to be in this thread, so why bring it up here?

1) The poster doesn't have to be in this particular thread and 2) to make a point regarding what I'd just said.

turingtest · 1st February 2022, 04:52 PM

Originally Posted by JoeMorgue

In our continuing coverage of "You said the quiet part out loud..."

Mark Peake, a Republican State Senator from Virginia, openly admitted on the Virginia Senate floor that intended purpose of a proposed "rEligIouS FrEeDoM" bill was to protect the discrimination of gay people under the law.

Quote:

Quote:
“You are correct, what you said is correct. They would be allowed to discriminate against people that they do not feel follow their religious beliefs. This is the whole point of it, is for their religious beliefs, and it gives them the ability to discriminate against people that conflict with their religious beliefs.”

Then he chuckled, saying, “I think that is the substance of this bill.”

https://www.losangelesblade.com/2022...-lgbtq-people/

And again we're going to, I think, have more and more of these moments. The Republicans want to say it. It kills them that they have pussyfoot around it. They want to go "I'm wrong, I'm hateful, but I'm power and you can't stop me."

It's also coming really close to saying that the ability to discriminate against people who don't follow their religious beliefs isn't just the point of the law, but the point of the religious beliefs. I mean, at some point even the religious need to understand the difference between a law that's a shield for their beliefs from undue interference and one that makes their beliefs a sword to wield against others.

dudalb · 1st February 2022, 05:40 PM

Originally Posted by Stacyhs

Oh, I dunno. The current GOP seems to have no problems with the Russians.

SOme of them do to be fair.

dudalb · 1st February 2022, 05:41 PM

Originally Posted by turingtest

It's also coming really close to saying that the ability to discriminate against people who don't follow their religious beliefs isn't just the point of the law, but the point of the religious beliefs. I mean, at some point even the religious need to understand the difference between a law that's a shield for their beliefs from undue interference and one that makes their beliefs a sword to wield against others.

It's disgusting, but also stupid. ANy business who would turn away paying customers becuase they are gay is a fool.

Stacyhs · 2nd February 2022, 12:05 AM

Originally Posted by dudalb

It's disgusting, but also stupid. ANy business who would turn away paying customers becuase they are gay is a fool.

There is no shortage of fools in this world.

ponderingturtle · 2nd February 2022, 05:34 AM

Originally Posted by dudalb

It's disgusting, but also stupid. ANy business who would turn away paying customers becuase they are gay is a fool.

Not really, look at the hundreds of thousands they get from christian crowdfunding sites. Could easily offset the business lost.

Stacyhs · 5th February 2022, 12:54 AM

Rand Paul: Yeah, I know he's a Libertarian, but let's face it: he's just as crazy as the majority of the current crop of GOP Congressmembers are:

Quote:

Obsessed Rand Paul Threatens to Investigate Fauci if GOP Takes Senate

Speaking to conservative podcast host Lisa Boothe, Paul said he’ll continue his feud with Fauci if Republicans take the Senate and he becomes chairman of the Health, Education, Labor & Pensions Committee. He said: “If we win in November, if I’m chairman of a committee, if I have subpoena power, we'll go after every one of [Fauci's] records... We’ll have an investigator go through this piece-by-piece because we don’t need this to happen again.” Fauci recently accused Paul of inciting death threats against him by stoking up “the crazies” with misinformation.

shemp · 8th February 2022, 07:27 AM

'Indefensible': Houston GOP precinct chair releases 'hate-filled' list of party priorities

Quote:

Texas Democrats want Harris County GOP precinct chair Carla Richburg to be removed after she allegedly submitted resolutions to the county Republican party calling for bigoted actions like considering all Chinese nationals as "spies."

A Sunday, February 6, tweet from the Texas Democrats showed a document with Richburg's name at the bottom outlining multiple transphobic, anti-immigrant, and homophobic Republican party priorities submitted to the Harris County Republican Party (HCRP). Richburg is Precinct 602 Chair for the HCRP and identifies herself as such in the document.

In the document, Richburg allegedly calls for the removal of "sex education of any kind" and for the "manditory [sic]" death penalty for people found guilty of murder of police officers or "victoms [sic] of gang warfare."

Richburg allegedly wants all "Chinese nationals" to be considered spies and be forcibly removed from businesses, schools, universities, and the U.S. She also calls for their travel and work visas to be canceled.

Her last resolution says the state will "wage war against all invaders into the Texas borders by deadly force" with minimal warning.

Other actions Richburg calls for includes:

Prohibition of all medical mandates to fight pandemics.

A ban on all abortions.

Denial of transgender and other gender identities.

To remove "marriage" from same-sex marriages and only consider them as civil unions.

The Don · 8th February 2022, 07:44 AM

Originally Posted by shemp

'Indefensible': Houston GOP precinct chair releases 'hate-filled' list of party priorities

Her crime is saying the quiet part out loud. It won't be long before the Overton window is moved sufficiently that such views wouldn't even cause a ripple, much less an outrage.

JoeMorgue · 8th February 2022, 07:46 AM

Originally Posted by The Don

It won't be long before the Overton window is moved sufficiently that such views wouldn't even cause a ripple, much less an outrage.

A brick got thrown through that window a long time ago.

Stacyhs · 8th February 2022, 03:14 PM

Originally Posted by shemp

'Indefensible': Houston GOP precinct chair releases 'hate-filled' list of party priorities

This doesn't surprise me at all. Anyone want to bet on whether she's removed or not? Don't be surprised if she runs for Congress and wins. She's just the kind of Republican the current party likes. She, MTG, and Boebert can be besties.

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16th January 2022, 06:31 AM	#122
Fidelio Graduate Poster Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: The island of Atlanta Posts: 1,147	Originally Posted by Regnad Kcin Why do you hate football? Indeed, I've watched Herschel's career from high school, to football, to astronomer (he discovered Uranus ya know) to renowned right wing medical crackpot. So don't go dissin' me bud Herschel! Dammit!
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17th January 2022, 07:11 AM	#124
slyjoe Illuminator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Near Harmonica Virgins, AZ Posts: 3,502	Originally Posted by Stacyhs He sounds to me like he should volunteer for that research program on footballers and concussions related brain damage. Heh.
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17th January 2022, 10:40 AM	#125
ponderingturtle Orthogonal Vector Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 53,072	Originally Posted by Stacyhs According to GOP Senator Tommy Tuberville, we were fighting to “free Europe of socialism." " I tell people, my dad fought 76 years ago in Europe to free Europe of socialism." As the Nazis were fascists, not socialists, I guess we weren't. Silly me. You are assuming his dad was fighting against the nazis.
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17th January 2022, 03:35 PM	#126
bruto Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Way way north of Diddy Wah Diddy Posts: 34,758	Originally Posted by Stacyhs According to GOP Senator Tommy Tuberville, we were fighting to “free Europe of socialism." " I tell people, my dad fought 76 years ago in Europe to free Europe of socialism." As the Nazis were fascists, not socialists, I guess we weren't. Silly me. He must have **** himself when he realized the Russians were our allies!
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17th January 2022, 01:24 AM	#123
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 30,320	Originally Posted by Fidelio Indeed, I've watched Herschel's career from high school, to football, to astronomer (he discovered Uranus ya know) to renowned right wing medical crackpot. So don't go dissin' me bud Herschel! Dammit! He sounds to me like he should volunteer for that research program on footballers and concussions related brain damage.

17th January 2022, 04:35 PM	#127
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 30,320	Originally Posted by bruto He must have **** himself when he realized the Russians were our allies! Oh, I dunno. The current GOP seems to have no problems with the Russians.

17th January 2022, 06:08 PM	#128
Norman Alexander Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Dharug & Gundungurra Posts: 14,982	Originally Posted by Stacyhs Oh, I dunno. The current GOP seems to have no problems with the Russians. They pay well!
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17th January 2022, 08:02 PM	#129
bruto Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Way way north of Diddy Wah Diddy Posts: 34,758	Originally Posted by Stacyhs Oh, I dunno. The current GOP seems to have no problems with the Russians. True, but those nice friendly trumpetteers were big bad commies back then. Of course these days I think half the population thinks the phrase "fight fire with fire" means you should toss the water and fill your bucket with gasoline.
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17th January 2022, 08:11 PM	#130
Ladewig I lost an avatar bet. Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 28,767	Originally Posted by Stacyhs According to GOP Senator Tommy Tuberville, we were fighting to “free Europe of socialism." " I tell people, my dad fought 76 years ago in Europe to free Europe of socialism." As the Nazis were fascists, not socialists, I guess we weren't. Silly me. It’s weird how in 1945 we allegedly hated socialism and in 1948 we loved it. I mean the Berliners didn’t pay for the food we were airlifting - that’s socialism, right?
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17th January 2022, 08:26 PM	#131
carlitos "más divertido" Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: USA! USA! Posts: 24,384	The thread for stupidity from GQP politicians who don't have their own thread Originally Posted by shemp Just spray some Lysol down his throat, he'll be fine. Swallow a tanning bulb. The UV light kills it very quickly, in a matter of a minute or two.

18th January 2022, 07:08 AM	#132
ponderingturtle Orthogonal Vector Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 53,072	Originally Posted by Ladewig It’s weird how in 1945 we allegedly hated socialism and in 1948 we loved it. I mean the Berliners didn’t pay for the food we were airlifting - that’s socialism, right? The problem is that you have basic historical literacy, when all you need to be a senator is being a college football coach.
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18th January 2022, 09:27 AM	#133
Donal Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 5,628	Originally Posted by ponderingturtle The problem is that you have basic historical literacy, when all you need to be a senator is being a college football coach. Or have a rich daddy. Or be on TV. Or commit a racially motivated killing (anticipating Senator Rittenhouse's tenure).
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18th January 2022, 09:40 AM	#134
JoeMorgue Self Employed Remittance Man Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 44,114	Basically how many problems across wide swaths of society really boil down to "You can be wrong, even intentionally, and never face any consequence or indeed any reaction at all because of it?"
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18th January 2022, 01:31 PM	#135
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 30,320	Originally Posted by ponderingturtle The problem is that you have basic historical literacy, when all you need to be a senator is being a college football coach. Or have your nose firmly stuck up Trump's rectum in a red state. In the Party of Trump, literacy of any kind is not deemed an asset. Gaslighting the stupid and/or uneducated is so much easier.

20th January 2022, 09:54 AM	#136
JoeMorgue Self Employed Remittance Man Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 44,114	McConnell said the quiet part out loud again. In response to (valid but that's neither here nor there) complaints about their blatant vote suppression efforts McConnell said: "Well, the concern is misplaced, because if you look at the statistics, African American voters are voting at just as high a percentage as Americans."
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20th January 2022, 11:45 AM	#137
bruto Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Way way north of Diddy Wah Diddy Posts: 34,758	Originally Posted by JoeMorgue McConnell said the quiet part out loud again. In response to (valid but that's neither here nor there) complaints about their blatant vote suppression efforts McConnell said: "Well, the concern is misplaced, because if you look at the statistics, African American voters are voting at just as high a percentage as Americans." Wow. I bet he doesn't even realize the depth of what he said, either.
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20th January 2022, 12:13 PM	#138
JoeMorgue Self Employed Remittance Man Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 44,114	Originally Posted by bruto Wow. I bet he doesn't even realize the depth of what he said, either. Well let's found out. TROLLS! OH TROLLS! Come tell us why this doesn't matter and we're just being dramatic and ohwhatabouta....
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20th January 2022, 01:13 PM	#139
Segnosaur Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Canada, eh? Posts: 19,897	Originally Posted by JoeMorgue McConnell said the quiet part out loud again. In response to (valid but that's neither here nor there) complaints about their blatant vote suppression efforts McConnell said: "Well, the concern is misplaced, because if you look at the statistics, African American voters are voting at just as high a percentage as Americans." Even if you give him the benefit of the doubt and assume he meant "African American voters are voting at same percentage as white voters", he would still be wrong. In 2016, 58% of white people voted, but only 56% of african Americans did. In 2020, the gap was even bigger: 64% of white voters, 59% of African americans. (The only years when a higher percentage of african americans voted was in 2008 and 2012, when they were able to select someone born in Nigeria ) See: Statista
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20th January 2022, 01:14 PM	#140
JoeMorgue Self Employed Remittance Man Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 44,114	Well that's exactly what he was doing. Saying something offensive to distract from the fact that he was wrong.
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20th January 2022, 01:22 PM	#141
bruto Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Way way north of Diddy Wah Diddy Posts: 34,758	Originally Posted by JoeMorgue Well that's exactly what he was doing. Saying something offensive to distract from the fact that he was wrong. Because of course in the Republican value system being both wrong and offensive at the same time is a twofer.
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31st January 2022, 01:47 PM	#142
JoeMorgue Self Employed Remittance Man Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 44,114	In our continuing coverage of "You said the quiet part out loud..." Mark Peake, a Republican State Senator from Virginia, openly admitted on the Virginia Senate floor that intended purpose of a proposed "rEligIouS FrEeDoM" bill was to protect the discrimination of gay people under the law. Quote: “You are correct, what you said is correct. They would be allowed to discriminate against people that they do not feel follow their religious beliefs. This is the whole point of it, is for their religious beliefs, and it gives them the ability to discriminate against people that conflict with their religious beliefs.” Then he chuckled, saying, “I think that is the substance of this bill.” https://www.losangelesblade.com/2022...-lgbtq-people/ And again we're going to, I think, have more and more of these moments. The Republicans want to say it. It kills them that they have pussyfoot around it. They want to go "I'm wrong, I'm hateful, but I'm power and you can't stop me."
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31st January 2022, 01:53 PM	#143
ponderingturtle Orthogonal Vector Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 53,072	Originally Posted by JoeMorgue In our continuing coverage of "You said the quiet part out loud..." Mark Peake, a Republican State Senator from Virginia, openly admitted on the Virginia Senate floor that intended purpose of a proposed "rEligIouS FrEeDoM" bill was to protect the discrimination of gay people under the law. Come on it is not to just discriminate against gay people, it is also to discriminate against the jews. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...-them-services Exactly as intended. Jews need to know what Tennessee thinks of them.
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31st January 2022, 02:35 PM	#144
Armitage72 Philosopher Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 7,825	Originally Posted by JoeMorgue In our continuing coverage of "You said the quiet part out loud..." Mark Peake, a Republican State Senator from Virginia, openly admitted on the Virginia Senate floor that intended purpose of a proposed "rEligIouS FrEeDoM" bill was to protect the discrimination of gay people under the law. I haven't read the text of the Bill, but it would be ironic if it ended up like Louisiana allowing state vouchers to be used for religious schools and being horrified to discover that Muslim schools were eligible. "It was only supposed to apply to our religion." "I'm sorry, but this is a Wiccan-run business and your beliefs are unacceptable to us."
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31st January 2022, 02:40 PM	#145
JoeMorgue Self Employed Remittance Man Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 44,114	Originally Posted by Armitage72 "It was only supposed to apply to our religion." Mark my words, they are going to get more comfortable putting that in the text instead of the subtext. Again they want to say it. I think they are getting sick of playing the game.
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31st January 2022, 02:55 PM	#146
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 30,320	Originally Posted by JoeMorgue In our continuing coverage of "You said the quiet part out loud..." Mark Peake, a Republican State Senator from Virginia, openly admitted on the Virginia Senate floor that intended purpose of a proposed "rEligIouS FrEeDoM" bill was to protect the discrimination of gay people under the law. https://www.losangelesblade.com/2022...-lgbtq-people/ And again we're going to, I think, have more and more of these moments. The Republicans want to say it. It kills them that they have pussyfoot around it. They want to go "I'm wrong, I'm hateful, but I'm power and you can't stop me." Trump legitimized the things they didn't used to say out loud but only within their own circles. You know, inside those private right wing websites, etc that another member said were easy to find online. Links to which were never produced when requested. Repeatedly.

31st January 2022, 03:15 PM	#147
Beelzebuddy Philosopher Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 9,385	Originally Posted by Stacyhs Trump legitimized the things they didn't used to say out loud but only within their own circles. You know, inside those private right wing websites, etc that another member said were easy to find online. Links to which were never produced when requested. Repeatedly. When you first started asking people for this I thought you were being sarcastic, but you keep bringing it up. Are you honestly having diffculty finding groups of racist dickbags on the internet? Have you tried throwing a rock?
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31st January 2022, 06:16 PM	#148
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 30,320	Originally Posted by Beelzebuddy When you first started asking people for this I thought you were being sarcastic, but you keep bringing it up. Are you honestly having diffculty finding groups of racist dickbags on the internet? Have you tried throwing a rock? I wasn't asking 'people' for this; I asked one person who claimed that we could know how right wingers interpreted Glenn Beck's painting. I said that racists (yes, I know, not all right wingers are racists) would not necessarily tend to express their racism in public but would among those of like mind as in private groups. He said those closed groups were plentiful on the internet and we could read them. I asked for links to any of these groups. None was. Quote: Are you honestly having diffculty finding groups of racist dickbags on the internet? Have you tried throwing a rock? It wasn't my claim so why should I, nor did I, spend any time looking for racist dickbags discussing Glenn Beck's painting?

1st February 2022, 06:15 AM	#149
Beelzebuddy Philosopher Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 9,385	Well, that one person doesn't appear to be in this thread, so why bring it up here?
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1st February 2022, 03:43 PM	#150
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 30,320	Originally Posted by JoeMorgue In our continuing coverage of "You said the quiet part out loud..." Mark Peake, a Republican State Senator from Virginia, openly admitted on the Virginia Senate floor that intended purpose of a proposed "rEligIouS FrEeDoM" bill was to protect the discrimination of gay people under the law. https://www.losangelesblade.com/2022...-lgbtq-people/ And again we're going to, I think, have more and more of these moments. The Republicans want to say it. It kills them that they have pussyfoot around it. They want to go "I'm wrong, I'm hateful, but I'm power and you can't stop me." Originally Posted by Stacyhs Trump legitimized the things they didn't used to say out loud but only within their own circles. You know, inside those private right wing websites, etc that another member said were easy to find online. Links to which were never produced when requested. Repeatedly. Originally Posted by Beelzebuddy When you first started asking people for this I thought you were being sarcastic, but you keep bringing it up. Are you honestly having diffculty finding groups of racist dickbags on the internet? Have you tried throwing a rock? Originally Posted by Stacyhs I wasn't asking 'people' for this; I asked one person who claimed that we could know how right wingers interpreted Glenn Beck's painting. I said that racists (yes, I know, not all right wingers are racists) would not necessarily tend to express their racism in public but would among those of like mind as in private groups. He said those closed groups were plentiful on the internet and we could read them. I asked for links to any of these groups. None was. It wasn't my claim so why should I, nor did I, spend any time looking for racist dickbags discussing Glenn Beck's painting? Originally Posted by Beelzebuddy Well, that one person doesn't appear to be in this thread, so why bring it up here? 1) The poster doesn't have to be in this particular thread and 2) to make a point regarding what I'd just said.

1st February 2022, 04:52 PM	#151
turingtest Mistral, mistral wind... Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Embedded and embattled, reporting from Mississippi Posts: 5,184	Originally Posted by JoeMorgue In our continuing coverage of "You said the quiet part out loud..." Mark Peake, a Republican State Senator from Virginia, openly admitted on the Virginia Senate floor that intended purpose of a proposed "rEligIouS FrEeDoM" bill was to protect the discrimination of gay people under the law. Quote: Quote: “You are correct, what you said is correct. They would be allowed to discriminate against people that they do not feel follow their religious beliefs. This is the whole point of it, is for their religious beliefs, and it gives them the ability to discriminate against people that conflict with their religious beliefs.” Then he chuckled, saying, “I think that is the substance of this bill.” https://www.losangelesblade.com/2022...-lgbtq-people/ And again we're going to, I think, have more and more of these moments. The Republicans want to say it. It kills them that they have pussyfoot around it. They want to go "I'm wrong, I'm hateful, but I'm power and you can't stop me." It's also coming really close to saying that the ability to discriminate against people who don't follow their religious beliefs isn't just the point of the law, but the point of the religious beliefs. I mean, at some point even the religious need to understand the difference between a law that's a shield for their beliefs from undue interference and one that makes their beliefs a sword to wield against others.
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1st February 2022, 05:40 PM	#152
dudalb Suspended Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sacramento Posts: 58,604	Originally Posted by Stacyhs Oh, I dunno. The current GOP seems to have no problems with the Russians. SOme of them do to be fair.

1st February 2022, 05:41 PM	#153
dudalb Suspended Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sacramento Posts: 58,604	Originally Posted by turingtest It's also coming really close to saying that the ability to discriminate against people who don't follow their religious beliefs isn't just the point of the law, but the point of the religious beliefs. I mean, at some point even the religious need to understand the difference between a law that's a shield for their beliefs from undue interference and one that makes their beliefs a sword to wield against others. It's disgusting, but also stupid. ANy business who would turn away paying customers becuase they are gay is a fool.

2nd February 2022, 12:05 AM	#154
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 30,320	Originally Posted by dudalb It's disgusting, but also stupid. ANy business who would turn away paying customers becuase they are gay is a fool. There is no shortage of fools in this world.

2nd February 2022, 05:34 AM	#155
ponderingturtle Orthogonal Vector Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 53,072	Originally Posted by dudalb It's disgusting, but also stupid. ANy business who would turn away paying customers becuase they are gay is a fool. Not really, look at the hundreds of thousands they get from christian crowdfunding sites. Could easily offset the business lost.
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