[Ed] Jesus Guns Babies

shemp · 18th February 2022, 04:28 PM

It's not a lost Nirvana album:

https://twitter.com/ariehkovler/stat...32545218928642

Puppycow · 18th February 2022, 04:53 PM

'Murica!! Love it or leave it!! And get a haircut!!

Fidelio · 18th February 2022, 05:05 PM

We all love all three them both, right?

It's just me but I go for the guns. Georgia ya know.

Resume · 18th February 2022, 05:08 PM

I always thought Jesus was kind of a dick, but Jesus Christ, now he's gunning babies!

Stacyhs · 18th February 2022, 05:12 PM

Originally Posted by shemp

It's not a lost Nirvana album:

https://twitter.com/ariehkovler/stat...32545218928642

Words fail me.

Thermal · 18th February 2022, 05:35 PM

Not sure if this is a slam poetry recounting of the immaculate conception, or a first draft from Warren Zevon.

d4m10n · 18th February 2022, 06:03 PM

Assumed this was from a parodic film, but nope.

https://twitter.com/KandissTaylor/st...12728332283908

newyorkguy · 18th February 2022, 09:35 PM

MTG has been bloviating about making a run for governor. Looks like she's got some competition.

Warp12 · 18th February 2022, 09:41 PM

Just in case people are confused by her message:

newyorkguy · 18th February 2022, 09:44 PM

Folks, it only gets worse.

Quote:

Kandiss Taylor @KandissTaylor
Plain and simple. It’s Jesus, guns, and babies. And yes, with the commas… that’s grammatically correct! Not politically correct because I don’t fall into that category! Twitter link

Guns because we have the right to protect ourselves from tyranny. It's no longer about protecting ourselves from criminals, it's about protecting ourselves from...tyranny? Seriously?

H-E-L-P !!!

Checkmite · 18th February 2022, 10:57 PM

Originally Posted by newyorkguy

Folks, it only gets worse.

Guns because we have the right to protect ourselves from tyranny. It's no longer about protecting ourselves from criminals, it's about protecting ourselves from...tyranny? Seriously?

This is not a new development. Certainly for as long as I've heard gun-nutters nuttering, it's commonly been focused around the idea that guns are a constitutional right because people need to have the means to violently revoke democracy in the US if the democratic process results in laws they personally don't like.

Warp12 · 18th February 2022, 11:03 PM

Originally Posted by Checkmite

This is not a new development. Certainly for as long as I've heard gun-nutters nuttering, it's commonly been focused around the idea that guns are a constitutional right because people need to have the means to violently revoke democracy in the US if the democratic process results in laws they personally don't like.

The concept of resistance to tyranny has always been part of the 2A landscape. Like...since the beginning.

Norman Alexander · 18th February 2022, 11:11 PM

Originally Posted by Warp12

The concept of resistance to tyranny has always been part of the 2A landscape. Like...since the beginning.

It's been a manufactured excuse to hang onto their guns. Like...since the beginning.

bruto · 18th February 2022, 11:50 PM

I unfortunately can't unsee "guns" as a verb.

Stacyhs · 19th February 2022, 12:28 AM

I'm just imagining what a girls' night out with Kandiss, Lauren, and Marjorie would be like.

Warp12 · 19th February 2022, 12:31 AM

Originally Posted by Stacyhs

I'm just imagining what a girls' night out with Kandiss, Lauren, and Marjorie would be like.

I'm just imagining what a guy's night out with them would be like. They say you shouldn't have sex with crazy, but that doesn't fit my experience.

PitPat · 19th February 2022, 12:46 AM

Originally Posted by Stacyhs

I'm just imagining what a girls' night out with Kandiss, Lauren, and Marjorie would be like.

Oh don't play coy. You know that she's the one you've been waiting for.

Stacyhs · 19th February 2022, 12:52 AM

Originally Posted by PitPat

Oh don't play coy. You know that she's the one you've been waiting for.

True. I didn't think there was anyone more stupid than Lauren and Marjorie. But Kandiss completes them: she's the Curly Joe to their Moe and Larry.

Lurch · 19th February 2022, 01:01 AM

Originally Posted by Norman Alexander

It's been a manufactured excuse to hang onto their guns. Like...since the beginning.

Exactly. The only way a rabble ousts a Superpower is if that Superpower's military goes over to the rabble. When the 2A was ratified, the US was hardly a Superpower--by the standards of the time. Today's gun stroker is content with any fiction that allows him to keep his Precious. Which is why he will gloss over the object of the 2A, the "well regulated militia" (of muzzle loaders) and skip straight to the "shall not be infringed" conclusion.

For some time now I've been perturbed and fascinated by the peculiarly obscene flavor of American Christianity, which might as well be called "The Church of the Guns of God Send Money". Ghandi was so very right in liking the Christ but not the Christians. But these "Christians" are edging close to inversion. Like, Mirror Universe level.

Susheel · 19th February 2022, 01:22 AM

Originally Posted by Norman Alexander

It's been a manufactured excuse to hang onto their guns. Like...since the beginning.

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

Seems like more of a stop-gap to ensure that the State is protected by willing volunteers until such time as an army can be established after negotiating the requirements of the federalism.

Stacyhs · 19th February 2022, 01:37 AM

Originally Posted by Susheel

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

Seems like more of a stop-gap to ensure that the State is protected by willing volunteers until such time as an army can be established after negotiating the requirements of the federalism.

Without militias, how else are these almost exclusively right-wing men gonna get their testosterone pumped jollies being big, bad, macho men?

The Don · 19th February 2022, 04:26 AM

Originally Posted by Stacyhs

True. I didn't think there was anyone more stupid than Lauren and Marjorie. But Kandiss completes them: she's the Curly Joe to their Moe and Larry.

Whilst mockery may be fun, the problem is that these people keep getting elected. In some cases it may be because they simply represent the correct party but it's becoming clear to me that their values are shared by a majority of Republicans and Republican-voting independents.

PitPat · 19th February 2022, 05:29 AM

Originally Posted by The Don

Whilst mockery may be fun, the problem is that these people keep getting elected. In some cases it may be because they simply represent the correct party but it's becoming clear to me that their values are shared by a majority of Republicans and Republican-voting independents.

Fair point. I never thought I'd see the day that Georgia would elect 2 democratic US senators (and I've worked on some of the number-crunching internal polling), and was mildly ridiculed for that belief.

A new democratic governor, maybe not but at least it should be close.

newyorkguy · 19th February 2022, 06:33 AM

Guns because we have the right to protect ourselves from tyranny.

This is not a new development? From someone running for governor of a state with 10 million residents? To make it a linchpin of their candidacy? This at a time when people consider a mandate for school kids to wear face masks in the classroom an act of tyranny.

PitPat · 19th February 2022, 06:38 AM

Yeah I'm guessing she won't get very far, more of a primary fight between Kemp and Perdue. But we'll see, I've learned to not get used to conventional wisdom these days.

newyorkguy · 19th February 2022, 06:47 AM

I saw video the other night of a woman at a school board meeting literally screaming at the board members -- it was a budget hearing -- how about family budgets? To treat the long term damage their kids will suffer from having had to wear face masks in the classroom. Other attendees were cheering her on.

They became so unruly they finally had to be escorted out by police. Fortunately, none of them were prepared to exercise their second amendment rights, though I'm sure most believed the school board was acting 'tyrannically.'

Armitage72 · 19th February 2022, 07:27 AM

Originally Posted by Norman Alexander

It's been a manufactured excuse to hang onto their guns. Like...since the beginning.

They forget, or likely never knew, that George Washington personally led troops armed under the provisions of the Second Amendment to put down a rebellion by farmers who were refusing to pay taxes.

d4m10n · 19th February 2022, 08:30 AM

Originally Posted by Norman Alexander

It's been a manufactured excuse to hang onto their guns. Like...since the beginning.

The "security of a free state" language was manufactured by the people who drafted the amendment itself.

sackett · 19th February 2022, 08:38 AM

Kanndass is posing with what appears to be an M1 or M1A1 from WW2. WT everlasting F? We know she's a reactionary, but is she trying for actual time travel?

I like bats, but not when they **** all over themselves.

bruto · 19th February 2022, 08:52 AM

Originally Posted by d4m10n

The "security of a free state" language was manufactured by the people who drafted the amendment itself.

But I suspect that the interpretation that this means threatening people who disagree with you was not.

d4m10n · 19th February 2022, 08:53 AM

Originally Posted by bruto

But I suspect that the interpretation that this means threatening people who disagree with you was not.

Tyranny isn't merely "people who disagree with you," IMO.

carlitos · 19th February 2022, 08:57 AM

Originally Posted by newyorkguy

Folks, it only gets worse.

So she's wrong on everything else, but correct on the use of the Oxford comma. I'll cut her some slack then; I'm a one-issue voter.

If she had a clue, she would get Nitzer Ebb to do her campaign song.

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Thermal · 19th February 2022, 09:28 AM

Originally Posted by newyorkguy

Folks, it only gets worse.

Guns because we have the right to protect ourselves from tyranny. It's no longer about protecting ourselves from criminals, it's about protecting ourselves from...tyranny? Seriously?

H-E-L-P !!!

I just love the juxtaposition of a military rifle between pacifist Jesus and a widdle baby that deserves to live by its nature. It's like they don't see it.

bruto · 19th February 2022, 09:44 AM

Originally Posted by d4m10n

Tyranny isn't merely "people who disagree with you," IMO.

Nor in mine, but we seem to differ in this from a frighteningly large body of today's defenders of Freedom.

Lurch · 19th February 2022, 12:07 PM

Originally Posted by d4m10n

Tyranny isn't merely "people who disagree with you," IMO.

Yeah, well tell that to the likes of Klan Mom MTG, and her ilk of heat-packin' Karens.

Stacyhs · 19th February 2022, 12:16 PM

Originally Posted by The Don

Whilst mockery may be fun, the problem is that these people keep getting elected. In some cases it may be because they simply represent the correct party but it's becoming clear to me that their values are shared by a majority of Republicans and Republican-voting independents.

I think that's become fairly obvious these last few years.

Stacyhs · 19th February 2022, 12:27 PM

Originally Posted by Armitage72

They forget, or likely never knew, that George Washington personally led troops armed under the provisions of the Second Amendment to put down a rebellion by farmers who were refusing to pay taxes.

True. However, it doesn't really work to use events that occurred over 300 years ago when the US had been in existence for a handful of years and had no real standing army but relied on state militias. Times change.

Craig4 · 19th February 2022, 12:34 PM

Originally Posted by Warp12

The concept of resistance to tyranny has always been part of the 2A landscape. Like...since the beginning.

No, just no. The idea that the Founding Fathers wanted people armed to resist a central government is laughable.

shemp · 19th February 2022, 12:56 PM

Originally Posted by Stacyhs

True. However, it doesn't really work to use events that occurred over 300 years ago when the US had been in existence for a handful of years and had no real standing army but relied on state militias. Times change.

Just to nitpick, it was 1794, so it was 228 years ago.

Stacyhs · 19th February 2022, 01:01 PM

Originally Posted by shemp

Just to nitpick, it was 1794, so it was 228 years ago.

Yep, the Whiskey Rebellion. I hit the 3 key instead of the 2. I blame the keyboard manufacturers for putting the numbers in order.

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18th February 2022, 05:05 PM	#3
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18th February 2022, 05:12 PM	#5
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 30,320	Originally Posted by shemp It's not a lost Nirvana album: https://twitter.com/ariehkovler/stat...32545218928642 Words fail me.

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18th February 2022, 09:44 PM	#10
newyorkguy Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: NY Posts: 13,077	Folks, it only gets worse. Quote: Kandiss Taylor @KandissTaylor Plain and simple. It’s Jesus, guns, and babies. And yes, with the commas… that’s grammatically correct! Not politically correct because I don’t fall into that category! Twitter link Guns because we have the right to protect ourselves from tyranny. It's no longer about protecting ourselves from criminals, it's about protecting ourselves from...tyranny? Seriously? H-E-L-P !!!

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Checkmite Skepticifimisticalationist Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Gulf Coast Posts: 28,236	Originally Posted by newyorkguy Folks, it only gets worse. Guns because we have the right to protect ourselves from tyranny. It's no longer about protecting ourselves from criminals, it's about protecting ourselves from...tyranny? Seriously? This is not a new development. Certainly for as long as I've heard gun-nutters nuttering, it's commonly been focused around the idea that guns are a constitutional right because people need to have the means to violently revoke democracy in the US if the democratic process results in laws they personally don't like.
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18th February 2022, 11:03 PM	#12
Warp12 Banned Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: USA Posts: 7,583	Originally Posted by Checkmite This is not a new development. Certainly for as long as I've heard gun-nutters nuttering, it's commonly been focused around the idea that guns are a constitutional right because people need to have the means to violently revoke democracy in the US if the democratic process results in laws they personally don't like. The concept of resistance to tyranny has always been part of the 2A landscape. Like...since the beginning.

18th February 2022, 11:11 PM	#13
Norman Alexander Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Dharug & Gundungurra Posts: 14,983	Originally Posted by Warp12 The concept of resistance to tyranny has always been part of the 2A landscape. Like...since the beginning. It's been a *manufactured excuse* to hang onto their guns. Like...since the beginning.
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19th February 2022, 12:28 AM	#15
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 30,320	I'm just imagining what a girls' night out with Kandiss, Lauren, and Marjorie would be like.

19th February 2022, 12:31 AM	#16
Warp12 Banned Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: USA Posts: 7,583	Originally Posted by Stacyhs I'm just imagining what a girls' night out with Kandiss, Lauren, and Marjorie would be like. I'm just imagining what a guy's night out with them would be like. They say you shouldn't have sex with crazy, but that doesn't fit my experience.

19th February 2022, 12:46 AM	#17
PitPat Philosopher Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Seattle Posts: 5,235	Originally Posted by Stacyhs I'm just imagining what a girls' night out with Kandiss, Lauren, and Marjorie would be like. Oh don't play coy. You know that she's the one you've been waiting for.

19th February 2022, 12:52 AM	#18
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 30,320	Originally Posted by PitPat Oh don't play coy. You know that she's the one you've been waiting for. True. I didn't think there was anyone more stupid than Lauren and Marjorie. But Kandiss completes them: she's the Curly Joe to their Moe and Larry.

19th February 2022, 01:01 AM	#19
Lurch Master Poster Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Ottawa Posts: 2,411	Originally Posted by Norman Alexander It's been a *manufactured excuse* to hang onto their guns. Like...since the beginning. Exactly. The only way a rabble ousts a Superpower is if that Superpower's military goes over to the rabble. When the 2A was ratified, the US was hardly a Superpower--by the standards of the time. Today's gun stroker is content with any fiction that allows him to keep his Precious. Which is why he will gloss over the object of the 2A, the "well regulated militia" (of muzzle loaders) and skip straight to the "shall not be infringed" conclusion. For some time now I've been perturbed and fascinated by the peculiarly obscene flavor of American Christianity, which might as well be called "The Church of the Guns of God Send Money". Ghandi was so very right in liking the Christ but not the Christians. But these "Christians" are edging close to inversion. Like, Mirror Universe level.

19th February 2022, 01:22 AM	#20
Susheel Illuminator Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Hyderabad, India Posts: 3,183	Originally Posted by Norman Alexander It's been a *manufactured excuse* to hang onto their guns. Like...since the beginning. "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." Seems like more of a stop-gap to ensure that the State is protected by willing volunteers until such time as an army can be established after negotiating the requirements of the federalism.
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19th February 2022, 01:37 AM	#21
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 30,320	Originally Posted by Susheel "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." Seems like more of a stop-gap to ensure that the State is protected by willing volunteers until such time as an army can be established after negotiating the requirements of the federalism. Without militias, how else are these almost exclusively right-wing men gonna get their testosterone pumped jollies being big, bad, macho men?

19th February 2022, 04:26 AM	#22
The Don Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Sir Fynwy Posts: 36,615	Originally Posted by Stacyhs True. I didn't think there was anyone more stupid than Lauren and Marjorie. But Kandiss completes them: she's the Curly Joe to their Moe and Larry. Whilst mockery may be fun, the problem is that these people keep getting elected. In some cases it may be because they simply represent the correct party but it's becoming clear to me that their values are shared by a majority of Republicans and Republican-voting independents.

19th February 2022, 05:29 AM	#23
PitPat Philosopher Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Seattle Posts: 5,235	Originally Posted by The Don Whilst mockery may be fun, the problem is that these people keep getting elected. In some cases it may be because they simply represent the correct party but it's becoming clear to me that their values are shared by a majority of Republicans and Republican-voting independents. Fair point. I never thought I'd see the day that Georgia would elect 2 democratic US senators (and I've worked on some of the number-crunching internal polling), and was mildly ridiculed for that belief. A new democratic governor, maybe not but at least it should be close.

19th February 2022, 06:33 AM	#24
newyorkguy Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: NY Posts: 13,077	Guns because we have the right to protect ourselves from tyranny. This is not a new development? From someone running for governor of a state with 10 million residents? To make it a linchpin of their candidacy? This at a time when people consider a mandate for school kids to wear face masks in the classroom an act of tyranny.

19th February 2022, 06:38 AM	#25
PitPat Philosopher Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Seattle Posts: 5,235	Yeah I'm guessing she won't get very far, more of a primary fight between Kemp and Perdue. But we'll see, I've learned to not get used to conventional wisdom these days.

19th February 2022, 07:27 AM	#27
Armitage72 Philosopher Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 7,825	Originally Posted by Norman Alexander It's been a *manufactured excuse* to hang onto their guns. Like...since the beginning. They forget, or likely never knew, that George Washington personally led troops armed under the provisions of the Second Amendment to put down a rebellion by farmers who were refusing to pay taxes.

19th February 2022, 08:30 AM	#28
d4m10n Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Mounts Farm Posts: 10,960	Originally Posted by Norman Alexander It's been a *manufactured excuse* to hang onto their guns. Like...since the beginning. The "security of a free state" language was manufactured by the people who drafted the amendment itself.
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19th February 2022, 08:38 AM	#29
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19th February 2022, 08:52 AM	#30
bruto Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Way way north of Diddy Wah Diddy Posts: 34,758	Originally Posted by d4m10n The "security of a free state" language was manufactured by the people who drafted the amendment itself. But I suspect that the interpretation that this means threatening people who disagree with you was not.
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19th February 2022, 08:53 AM	#31
d4m10n Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Mounts Farm Posts: 10,960	Originally Posted by bruto But I suspect that the interpretation that this means threatening people who disagree with you was not. Tyranny isn't merely "people who disagree with you," IMO.
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Thermal Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: In the Troll Ignoring Section Posts: 22,626	Originally Posted by newyorkguy Folks, it only gets worse. Guns because we have the right to protect ourselves from tyranny. It's no longer about protecting ourselves from criminals, it's about protecting ourselves from...tyranny? Seriously? H-E-L-P !!! I just love the juxtaposition of a military rifle between pacifist Jesus and a widdle baby that deserves to live by its nature. It's like they don't see it.
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19th February 2022, 09:44 AM	#34
bruto Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Way way north of Diddy Wah Diddy Posts: 34,758	Originally Posted by d4m10n Tyranny isn't merely "people who disagree with you," IMO. Nor in mine, but we seem to differ in this from a frighteningly large body of today's defenders of Freedom.
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19th February 2022, 12:07 PM	#35
Lurch Master Poster Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Ottawa Posts: 2,411	Originally Posted by d4m10n Tyranny isn't merely "people who disagree with you," IMO. Yeah, well tell that to the likes of Klan Mom MTG, and her ilk of heat-packin' Karens.

19th February 2022, 12:16 PM	#36
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 30,320	Originally Posted by The Don Whilst mockery may be fun, the problem is that these people keep getting elected. In some cases it may be because they simply represent the correct party but it's becoming clear to me that their values are shared by a majority of Republicans and Republican-voting independents. I think that's become fairly obvious these last few years.

19th February 2022, 12:27 PM	#37
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 30,320	Originally Posted by Armitage72 They forget, or likely never knew, that George Washington personally led troops armed under the provisions of the Second Amendment to put down a rebellion by farmers who were refusing to pay taxes. True. However, it doesn't really work to use events that occurred over 300 years ago when the US had been in existence for a handful of years and had no real standing army but relied on state militias. Times change.

19th February 2022, 12:34 PM	#38
Craig4 Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: I live in a swamp Posts: 26,918	Originally Posted by Warp12 The concept of resistance to tyranny has always been part of the 2A landscape. Like...since the beginning. No, just no. The idea that the Founding Fathers wanted people armed to resist a central government is laughable.

19th February 2022, 12:56 PM	#39
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