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25th March 2023, 04:32 PM
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By the way, just to clarify, too late for editing, ex Gov. Douglas is either lying or misinformed, or fudging words. Mead did not use the precise word "eugenics" at the time (it was first used in the 1880's but was not common), but he counted all sorts of things including criminality and prostitution and the like as belonging to the class of "defectives," which he claimed was increasing dangerously, and advocated restrictive marriage laws, segregation of defectives, and sterilization. He was quite vociferous about it.
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28th March 2023, 11:35 AM
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In other local news out indigenous religious nutters are back in court:
https://www.rte.ie/news/courts/2023/...n-burke-court/ https://www.rte.ie/news/courts/2023/...1-enoch-burke/ |
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28th March 2023, 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by catsmate
Is this another case of the 'Freemen of the Land/Sovereign Citizen' ******** that seems to be infecting the brains of morons around the world? |
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28th March 2023, 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by catsmate
Originally Posted by novaphile
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28th March 2023, 05:37 PM
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Yes, it's hard to make sense of the Burke stuff if you haven't been following it, but I read to the bottom of the second link and they finally reminded us of what it's all about. Burke objected, presumably in a fairly objectionable way, when told that a student was to be addressed by a new set of pronouns.
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29th March 2023, 02:08 AM
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Originally Posted by novaphile
Think the likes of Pat Robertson (in fact these goms get funding from the same far right billionaires the US christian fascists do). That being said, I wouldn't be surprised if the Burkes do go down the FotL route eventually. |
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29th March 2023, 02:12 AM
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Originally Posted by bruto
Incidentally, a year prior a similar instruction was given re another student who was transitioning. The first time, not a peep of dissent out of Burke; given his bully boy characteristics, he was probably afraid of getting his block knocked off the first time round if he showed his true homophobia. |
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29th March 2023, 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by novaphile
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29th March 2023, 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Trebuchet
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29th March 2023, 02:54 PM
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Ah, thanks team.
I shouldn't have stopped at the first article. The ranting in Court stuff is just a general Karen/Kevin thing then I guess. If you ever want to see bizarre human behaviour search for 'Karen' and 'Court' in youtube. The amounts of breathtakingly stupid behaviour is astonishing. i.e. Judge: "30 days contempt of Court, if you speak again I'll give you another 30." Karen: "You have no!" Judge: "60 days" |
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29th March 2023, 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by catsmate
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31st March 2023, 05:31 AM
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Burke III continues to rant and demand special treatment from whatever alternative universe he inhabits....
https://www.rte.ie/news/courts/2023/...1-enoch-burke/ 
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20th May 2023, 02:03 AM
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Bump.
Enoch Burke loses. No doubt the tantrums will continue. Also an interesting case regarding pro per defendants. Can a person have legal representation forced upon them? https://www.thejournal.ie/drunk-driv...72576-May2023/ |
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20th May 2023, 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted by catsmate
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20th May 2023, 10:29 PM
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Meanwhile in my town's community groups it's the usual complaints about drivers, posts about lost dogs, and koala sightings.
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21st May 2023, 05:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Orphia Nay
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21st May 2023, 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Gulliver Foyle
Though I don't think Simeon would be joining him....
Originally Posted by Gulliver Foyle
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21st May 2023, 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Orphia Nay
Originally Posted by Gord_in_Toronto
Same here but substitute "coyote" for "koala".
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21st May 2023, 11:47 AM
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Meanwhile, in Rotherham...
Pensioner asks — please help me find my special Rotherham United walking stick By Gareth Dennison on Fri 19 May 2023 A DEVOTED Millers supporter has appealed for fellow fans to keep an eye for his lost one-of-a-kind RUFC walking stick. Apparently nowt much 'as 'appened since Friday. |
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21st May 2023, 11:54 AM
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She's her own worst enemy. |
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21st May 2023, 11:57 AM
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From where I sit I have a nice view out of the French Doors into the garden, taking in the bird table. It's frequented mostly by pigeons, one at a time, but lately there have been 2 or 3 at a time using it as a squabbling ground. They get pretty nasty with each other.
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21st May 2023, 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by GlennB
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21st May 2023, 09:29 PM
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I can't remember if I posted about it at the time, but just after Christmas in 2021 there was an almighty explosion at a kebab shop near me, which rattled my windows and damaged a bunch of nearby shops.
Well, Kingsley's is finally open again. Kingsley's is a local fried chicken franchise that has become a bit of an icon since it opened in the... actually, I don't know when the first place opened. They advertise with the slogan "Unbelievable chicken, awesome chips". Personally I like their Southern Fry Breast Fillet Burger (yes, burger) with coleslaw. |
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25th May 2023, 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Gord_in_Toronto
In deeper news, my wife reported yesterday that she saw some squirrels being attached by some crows. Nature is getting nastier.
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25th May 2023, 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Gord_in_Toronto
In deeper news, my wife reported yesterday that she saw some squirrels being attached by some crows. Nature is getting nastier.
... when it hit the ground, it only made it a couple of metres, before my two chickens had killed it. Red of beak and claw. |
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25th May 2023, 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Gord_in_Toronto
In deeper news, my wife reported yesterday that she saw some squirrels being attached by some crows. Nature is getting nastier.
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27th May 2023, 08:52 PM
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Big news today other than the governor predictably vetoing the budget was that a hungry bear broke into a Connecticut bakery and gorged on cupcakes. Neither too cold nor too hot they were apparently just right, and he ate 60 of them.
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27th May 2023, 09:03 PM
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Our local news made the international news: https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...swatch-watches
Police act to stop locals being infected by THE GAY! Looks like Swatch turning it to their advantage, as they’ve said they’ll just restock, effectively daring more raids. Makes them look better allies. |
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27th May 2023, 09:11 PM
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28th May 2023, 12:32 AM
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Originally Posted by bruto
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As human right is always something given, it always in reality reduces to the right which men give, "concede," to each other. If the right to existence is conceded to new-born children, then they have the right; if it is not conceded to them, as was the case among the Spartans and ancient Romans, then they do not have it. For only society can give or concede it to them; they themselves cannot take it, or give it to themselves. |
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28th May 2023, 12:33 AM
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Originally Posted by catsmate
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As human right is always something given, it always in reality reduces to the right which men give, "concede," to each other. If the right to existence is conceded to new-born children, then they have the right; if it is not conceded to them, as was the case among the Spartans and ancient Romans, then they do not have it. For only society can give or concede it to them; they themselves cannot take it, or give it to themselves. |
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28th May 2023, 07:32 AM
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28th May 2023, 05:35 PM
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Well, it was once said... "the hills are alive".
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Originally Posted by catsmate
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Census data has been released, https://www.irishtimes.com/ireland/2...n-latest-data/
Catholicism is down, especially in Dublin, Islam, Orthodox and Hinduism are up. Nearly as many Sikhs as Jews, more Satanists than Scientologists, Quakers and Hare Krishnas. But more Jedi Knights than the last four combined. 'No Religion' is up 67%. |
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Originally Posted by arthwollipot
Not in Ireland anyway, and not in the UK either I believe, they are counted as a separate religion just like any other group with thirty or more adherents. State agencies have no role in determining what is a "real" religion. |
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