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Counterbalance in the little town of Ridgeview, Ohio. Two people permanently enslaved by the tyranny of fear and superstitution, facing the future with a kind of helpless dread. Two others facing the future with confidence - having escaped one of the darker places of the Twilight Zone. |
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I know a little German.
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Mr Trump was asked to comment and said-:
"I don't speak French, or whatever language it is they speak in Germany, but I asked someone to translate and they said 'Sir', because they always call me 'Sir', 'Sir, it's very complimentary, they say you're building the wall', and he was crying he was so happy with what he'd read, a grown man crying, and shaking like he was having convulsions, he had to leave the room, he couldn't even speak. Then I heard everyone in the outer office laughing which I thought was most unfair as he couldn't help being moved to tears by my greatness. They shouldn't have laughed at him. But I suppose it was quite funny as everyone that came into my office that day was trying to hold back laughter." |
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Counterbalance in the little town of Ridgeview, Ohio. Two people permanently enslaved by the tyranny of fear and superstitution, facing the future with a kind of helpless dread. Two others facing the future with confidence - having escaped one of the darker places of the Twilight Zone. |
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The judge handling the Trump hush money payments has done a little "hushing" of his own...
From: Business Insider State Supreme Court Justice Juan Merchan fulfilled prosecutors' request this week in issuing a social media gag order on the former president...The order also stops Trump from publicly discussing details about witnesses involved in the case or any other evidence prosecutors plan to use against him.... The judge said Trump would be allowed to view "limited" evidentiary material while in the presence of his lawyers, but the court order explicitly forbade Trump, or anyone else involved in the case, from copying, transcribing, or photographing the material. Gee, how unfair. Its not like Trump has publicly attacked family members of the judiciary, or has released information about people who later got threatened by Trump's supporters. Well, Ok, he's done that, but not in the past day! His lawyers are of course complaining, but I suspect secretly they are happy since it might allow them to have at least some control over Trump to keep him from damaging the case. |
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Holy cow!
The jury is to read the verdict in a few minutes! Fast turn around on deliberations never bode well for those accused. |
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On the rape itself, "No."
On virtually everything else, yes, he did it. Trump ordered to pay out roughly $5,000,000 to E. Jean Carroll! https://www.reuters.com/legal/jurors...mp-2023-05-09/ |
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5 million?
Peanuts……. For his supporters to raise. Has anyone set up a Gofundme page yet? |
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I guess the jurors may have had the same trouble I did envisioning exactly how he might have managed to insert his penis given the circumstances. Bravo on the other liable findings and the size of the damages. Now for the delay, delay, delay tactics.
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Well he is absolutely guaranteed the Republican nomination now.
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Still gonna vote for him now, you ******* idiots?
(I doubt it will change a thing.) |
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"My advice to you is not to identify yourselves. Not now and not for a long time." Judge Kaplan's final advice to the jury.
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Trump reaction:
I HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA WHO THIS WOMAN IS. THIS VERDICT IS A DISGRACE - A CONTINUATION OF THE GREATEST WITCH HUNT OF ALL TIME! |
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Funny, most poolitical commentators are saying this is a disaster for Trump; a few acting like it
s no big thing. Look he will always have that 30$ of CUlt members and Mickey Mouse Republicans, but I think with this the teflon is off and he is looking terrible to the undecideds. |
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Republicans love to pretend that the term "witch hunt" wouldn't have widely different historical context if during the witch hunts they kept finding actual witches.
But like everything they understand nothing and just throw out words used (rightfully) against them as magic words in contexts where they either don't work or don't even make sense. I'm surprised Trump didn't call the trial a Strawman. |
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Well, considering the numerous women that Trump has raped and has sex with over these many years, then it is quite plausible that Trump may not recall who Carroll is.
However, also considering that there are several other Trump rape lawsuits just around the corner, then I am sure that Trump will recall at least a few of these women. |
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I mean on one hand you have the women saying Trump raped them and on the other hand you have Trump openly bragging about raping them. You really don't know who to believe.
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May this be only the first of many bad legal outcomes for the Diapered One. He may never pay a dime, nor do a dime, but it will hound him until he croaks because he must realize this is how history will remember him.
Bwah-effing-hah! |
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Sadly, this is the goddamn age we live in. Likely he’ll never have to Sharpie a check while successfully raising who knows how many more millions than this court award.
He may be social-media scream posting in all caps, but probably with a smile a mile wide. |
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Out of curiosity, Trump looks like he is doubling down and continuing to deny. Is it possible that Ms. Carroll can double down and sue him again for defamation?
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What if he appealed, and the second jury took a look at the evidence again and said, "Yeah, you know what. You did actually rape her too. Guilty of defamation, sexual assault, AND rape. Five million won't cut it for that. It's cell time for you."
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I know it stinks that he got off on the rape allegation, but the analysis I've seen says she raised the doubt when she said , and I'm paraphrasing, she didn't know if it was his fingers or his penis that entered her. And remember, Trump has those little tiny hands, and as such, pretty tiny fingers too.
So you can infer what you like here, but I'm still thinking he did it, and it was just so small, she couldn't be sure what it was. Right or wrong, that's what I'm thinking, and I'm sticking to it. |
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