Criminal Charges Against Trump / Trump Indicted Part II - Page 7

Stacyhs · 14th May 2023, 11:25 PM

Originally Posted by newyorkguy

The photo is from a Washington Post news story, not from the CNN Town Hall. (Were any photos taken? I haven't seen any.) I chose it at random and it was supposed to be sarcastic. That is, I'm sure trump supporters -- and only trump supporters -- would cheer on those kinds of comments.

I have to admit wondering, though, if Jean Carroll having been in an interracial marriage may have angered trump -- her husband, John Johnson, was a well-known New York TV news broadcaster (though I believe they'd divorced by the time trump attacked her) -- and was the motivation for trump deciding to sexually attack her when they had a chance encounter.

Carroll and Johnson were divorced in 1990.

newyorkguy · 15th May 2023, 04:46 AM

The Daily Beast reported last week:

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Judge Lewis Kaplan reportedly denied Trump lawyer Joe Tacopina’s request last month to question Carroll about an argument she described in a book during which she called her ex-husband John Johnson “an ape” on the grounds that the “the unfair prejudicial effect” of the comment “outrageously outweighs any probative value.” Daily Beast news link

A wife calling her husband an ape during a fight -- then relating it in an autobiography -- seems completely irrelevant to an allegation that trump sexually attacked Jean Carroll. I think Judge Kaplan was right, Tacopina's strategy was outrageously prejudicial. Which I guess was the whole idea.

varwoche · 15th May 2023, 12:15 PM

Originally Posted by The Don

For all of those people who say that President Trump has no chance in 2024, I present this as evidence.

He has plenty of support and a sizeable proportion of the US electorate consider him a hero.

I'm dubious. But I was dubious in 2016 too.

Regardless, this evidence is weaker than weak tea. It was a Trump audience by design.

dann · 16th May 2023, 02:09 AM

A pretty comprehensive list:

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Why does Trump treat women this way? How many times has he done this?
Donald Trump is a R*pist (Renegade Cut on YouTube, May 15, 2023 - 20 min.)

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dann · 16th May 2023, 02:18 AM

Originally Posted by varwoche

It was a Trump audience by design.

They weren't all Trumpists, but CNN Trump Town Hall Audience Was Told “Please Do Not Boo” (New Republic, May 12, 2023)

dirtywick · 16th May 2023, 05:57 AM

if anyone ever tells you not to boo you should automatically be booing

Mike! · 16th May 2023, 06:06 AM

Originally Posted by dirtywick

if anyone ever tells you not to boo you should automatically be booing

Kind of my thinking as well, what was CNN going to do about it during their LIVE broadcast anyway, bleep it out?

Segnosaur · 16th May 2023, 06:21 AM

Originally Posted by Mike!

Kind of my thinking as well, what was CNN going to do about it during their LIVE broadcast anyway, bleep it out?

I suspect probably just call a commercial break and get security to remove the non-compliant.

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Stacyhs · 16th May 2023, 09:35 AM

It certainly gave a wrong impression that everyone there was a Trump supporter when all we heard at home was the clapping and no dissenting boos. Trump needed to hear the booing, too, not just the clapping.

Lurch · 16th May 2023, 12:40 PM

Actually, the kind of decorum formerly imposed in such settings would have been the correct and neutral policy.

Permitting the cheers but forbidding the jeers is grossly improper and unbalanced for a purported news outlet. CNN deserves every helping of opprobrium heaped upon it.

8enotto · 16th May 2023, 08:01 PM

Originally Posted by Segnosaur

I suspect probably just call a commercial break and get security to remove the non-compliant.

Sent from my moto e using Tapatalk

They can do delay loops on live broadcasts so they can catch and cut out the hecklers undetected to everyone else. Rush Limbaugh had a 15 second delay in his radio show. He exercised it well for a while to keep his show on subject and the hecklers frustrated.
Art Bell also made excellent use of it. He needed it bad too for the laughable topics he aired. Hecklers lined up to crank old Art.

Ladewig · 16th May 2023, 08:42 PM

Originally Posted by dirtywick

if anyone ever tells you not to boo you should automatically be booing

Or laugh uncontrollably at each lie.

Ladewig · 16th May 2023, 08:50 PM

Originally Posted by Stacyhs

It certainly gave a wrong impression that everyone there was a Trump supporter when all we heard at home was the clapping and no dissenting boos. Trump needed to hear the booing, too, not just the clapping.

If Trump heard booing he would tell himself that the talking head who introduced him was so bad that people were still booing him after Trump started.

He really thinks he is so smart, so clever, so handsome, so incisive, so witty, so admirable, so …yadda yadda that the only people who could dislike him are mentally unstable or are somehow making money off of showing disapproval.

The Man · 16th May 2023, 09:13 PM

Originally Posted by dirtywick

if anyone ever tells you not to boo you should automatically be booing

Originally Posted by Ladewig

Or laugh uncontrollably at each lie.

Throw a shoe, someone did it to bush and he was Persident at the time.

Though, given the condition of upon lying. The audiance could quickly run out of shoes.

Norman Alexander · 16th May 2023, 09:53 PM

Originally Posted by The Man

Throw a shoe, someone did it to bush and he was Persident at the time.

Though, given the condition of upon lying. The audiance could quickly run out of shoes.

Some of them would throw their panties. Including the GOP women.

BrettM · 16th May 2023, 11:10 PM

Originally Posted by Ladewig

Or laugh uncontrollably at each lie.

You would laugh so much, you would die laughing.

The Man · 17th May 2023, 04:43 AM

Originally Posted by Norman Alexander

Some of them would throw their panties. Including the GOP women.

Naw, if they threw their panties they'd have to stick one of their hand guns somewhere else.

Mike! · 17th May 2023, 01:33 PM

And one of Trump's top lawyers has thrown in the towel...

Originally Posted by NYT

Trump Lawyer Resigns From Defense Team in Special Counsel Inquiries
Timothy Parlatore, who has been defending the former president in the investigations into classified documents and Jan. 6, is leaving as federal prosecutors appear to be nearing decisions about bringing charges.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/17/u...20legal%20team.

ZirconBlue · 17th May 2023, 01:42 PM

Originally Posted by Orphia Nay

Trump doesn't stop committing crimes just because he's been found liable, he thinks his litigiousness will keep him safe for the term of his natural life.

Whatever it is he's living, it's not a natural life.

quadraginta · 17th May 2023, 01:54 PM

Originally Posted by Mike!

And one of Trump's top lawyers has thrown in the towel...

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/17/u...20legal%20team.

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Last month, Mr. Parlatore wrote a letter to Congress asking lawmakers for help in taking the documents investigation away from prosecutors and giving it to the intelligence community — a move that, among other things, would have removed the threat of a criminal indictment against Mr. Trump.

The letter also seemed to preview some of Mr. Trump’s potential defenses in the documents case, noting that during his chaotic departure from the White House, aides “quickly packed everything into boxes and shipped them to Florida.” This hasty process, Mr. Parlatore argued, suggested that “White House institutional processes,” not “intentional decisions by President Trump,” were responsible for sensitive material being hauled away.

Last week, Mr. Trump appeared to undercut those assertions on live television, declaring at a CNN town hall event that he knowingly removed government records from the White House and claiming that he was allowed to take anything he wanted with him as his personal property.

“I took the documents,” he said at the event. “I’m allowed to.”

I bet none of that had anything to do with his decision to ~~bail out~~ withdraw.

catsmate · 17th May 2023, 02:15 PM

Originally Posted by Stacyhs

Personally, I think rape should be defined as any non-consensual vaginal or anal penetration by any object, not just a penis.

It is here and in many jurisdictions.

Norman Alexander · 18th May 2023, 01:36 AM

Originally Posted by The Man

Naw, if they threw their panties they'd have to stick one of their hand guns somewhere else.

They do. And they love it!

Lurch · 18th May 2023, 05:52 AM

Originally Posted by Norman Alexander

Some of them would throw their panties. Including the GOP women.

What would be the mantie to pantie ratio, the world wonders?

Stacyhs · 18th May 2023, 03:32 PM

Originally Posted by Ladewig

If Trump heard booing he would tell himself that the talking head who introduced him was so bad that people were still booing him after Trump started.

He really thinks he is so smart, so clever, so handsome, so incisive, so witty, so admirable, so …yadda yadda that the only people who could dislike him are mentally unstable or are somehow making money off of showing disapproval.

I don't think so. He'd know they were booing and why but he'd act like it was something else. It would get under his skin.

Stacyhs · 18th May 2023, 03:34 PM

Originally Posted by Norman Alexander

Some of them would throw their panties. Including the GOP women.

And Lindsey Graham.

Norman Alexander · 18th May 2023, 04:37 PM

Originally Posted by Lurch

What would be the mantie to pantie ratio, the world wonders?

Ugh. No, we don't.

alfaniner · 18th May 2023, 05:00 PM

Originally Posted by Stacyhs

I don't think so. He'd know they were booing and why but he'd act like it was something else. It would get under his skin.

And bristle. Oh, how I love to see him bristle. It's only been a couple of times but it was delicious.

Frank Newgent · 19th May 2023, 07:47 AM

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The Georgia prosecutor leading an investigation into former President Donald J. Trump and his allies has taken the unusual step of announcing remote work days for most of her staff during the first three weeks of August, asking judges in a downtown Atlanta courthouse not to schedule trials for part of that time as she prepares to bring charges in the inquiry.

The moves suggest that Fani T. Willis, the Fulton County district attorney, is expecting a grand jury to unseal indictments during that time period. Ms. Willis outlined the remote work plan and made the request to judges in a letter sent on Thursday to 21 Fulton County officials, including the chief county judge, Ural Glanville, and the sheriff, Pat Labat.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/19/u...ni-willis.html

Stacyhs · 19th May 2023, 06:30 PM

Originally Posted by Frank Newgent

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/19/u...ni-willis.html

Furthermore, note the highlighted:

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In a letter Thursday to the chief judge of the courthouse, Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis said she plans on having 70% of her staff working remotely between July 31 and Aug. 18. Those who will remain in the courthouse at that time include the leadership staff and "all armed investigators," according to the letter, a copy of which was obtained by NBC News.

Seems Fanni may be expecting some trouble those two weeks in August.

A Trump indictment would be a very nice anniversary present for me.

Segnosaur · 19th May 2023, 08:03 PM

Originally Posted by Frank Newgent

The Georgia prosecutor leading an investigation into former President Donald J. Trump and his allies has taken the unusual step of announcing remote work days for most of her staff during the first three weeks of August...
The moves suggest that Fani T. Willis, the Fulton County district attorney, is expecting a grand jury to unseal indictments during that time period.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/19/u...ni-willis.html

So I guess there is a bit of a race...

Who will issue indictments first, The DOJ over Documents/Jan6, or Fani Willis in Georgia.

But there is also another race... will Willis be able to actually indict Trump (if he actually is one of the people charged) and have him up for trial before the state government takes actions to block her from prosecuting Trump.

From: AP News
Gov. Brian Kemp signed a bill into law Friday creating a new commission empowered to discipline and remove wayward prosecutors, saying it will curb “far-left prosecutors” who are “making our communities less safe.”... Some have viewed the law as Republican retribution against Willis, who is considering criminal charges against former President Donald Trump over interference in Georgia’s 2020 election.

Stacyhs · 20th May 2023, 05:36 PM

Originally Posted by Segnosaur

So I guess there is a bit of a race...

Who will issue indictments first, The DOJ over Documents/Jan6, or Fani Willis in Georgia.

But there is also another race... will Willis be able to actually indict Trump (if he actually is one of the people charged) and have him up for trial before the state government takes actions to block her from prosecuting Trump.

From: AP News
Gov. Brian Kemp signed a bill into law Friday creating a new commission empowered to discipline and remove wayward prosecutors, saying it will curb “far-left prosecutors” who are “making our communities less safe.”... Some have viewed the law as Republican retribution against Willis, who is considering criminal charges against former President Donald Trump over interference in Georgia’s 2020 election.

What about 'far-RIGHT prosecutors'?

The Man · 21st May 2023, 06:01 AM

Originally Posted by Stacyhs

What about 'far-RIGHT prosecutors'?

They'd be the ones prosecuting the “far-left prosecutors”.

Stacyhs · 21st May 2023, 02:18 PM

Another lawyer dumps Trump.

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Tim Parlatore, one of the lawyers defending Donald Trump against special counsel Jack Smith’s investigation into the handling of documents marked as classified, has resigned from the former president’s legal team.

“It’s personal and it’s got nothing to do with my belief in the strength of the case,” Parlatore told POLITICO Wednesday morning.

Sure. Sure, it doesn't, Tim.

Mike! · 21st May 2023, 03:04 PM

Originally Posted by Stacyhs

Another lawyer dumps Trump.

Sure. Sure, it doesn't, Tim.

Check bounced.

Norman Alexander · 21st May 2023, 03:07 PM

Originally Posted by The Man

Originally Posted by Stacyhs

What about 'far-RIGHT prosecutors'?

They'd be the ones prosecuting the “far-left prosecutors”.

Prosecutors at 10 paces! Turn and fire!

Stacyhs · 21st May 2023, 03:12 PM

Originally Posted by Norman Alexander

Prosecutors at 10 paces! Turn and fire!

Unfair advantage to the right-wing prosecutors! They learned to shoot while still in utero!

shemp · 21st May 2023, 04:34 PM

Originally Posted by Mike!

Check bounced.

Ex-Trump lawyer reveals in-fighting among former president’s legal team

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An attorney working Donald Trump’s legal team has quit, citing in-fighting among the former president’s inner circle.

Timothy Parlatore left his role this week, according to The New York Times, after working for Mr Trump for at least a year.

In an interview with CNN on Saturday, Mr Parlatore explained that the reason for his departure was ongoing friction with Boris Epshteyn, another legal adviser to Mr Trump.

Mr Epshteyn, according to Mr Parlatore, has been stonewalling the legal team in their attempts to ascertain whether all presidential records that Mr Trump took with him when he left the White House had been turned over to the National Archives.

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“The real reason is because there are certain individuals that made defending the president much harder than it needed to be. In particular, there is one individual who works for him, Boris Epshteyn, who had really done everything he could to try to block us, to prevent us from doing what we could to defend the president,” said Mr Parlatore.

“In my opinion, he was not very honest with us or with the client on certain things,” he added.

It also didn't help that The Fat Orange Cheeto bragged at the infamous Town Hall Meeting that he took the documents and claimed that they belonged to him, evaporating his primary defense. Would you want to work for a client that can't keep his ******* fat stupid mouth shut?

Steve · 21st May 2023, 04:39 PM

Originally Posted by shemp

Ex-Trump lawyer reveals in-fighting among former president’s legal team

It also didn't help that The Fat Orange Cheeto bragged at the infamous Town Hall Meeting that he took the documents and claimed that they belonged to him, evaporating his primary defense. Would you want to work for a client that can't keep his ******* fat stupid mouth shut?

Boris Epshtyne seems to be just the kind of person Trump would want to employ.

Norman Alexander · 21st May 2023, 07:47 PM

Wow, just Googled Boris Epshteyn. He is a distillation of just about all the nasty characters and dubious contacts that we have long associated with Trump behind the scenes - dodgy offshore banking, Russian contacts, failed businesses, direction and coordination of 6-Jan... Real piece of work.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boris_Epshteyn

Reformed Offlian · 21st May 2023, 07:55 PM

Originally Posted by The Man

Throw a shoe, someone did it to bush and he was Persident at the time.

Though, given the condition of upon lying. The audiance could quickly run out of shoes.

Pumps for Trump!

15th May 2023, 12:15 PM	#243
varwoche Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Puget Sound Posts: 16,643	Originally Posted by The Don For all of those people who say that President Trump has no chance in 2024, I present this as evidence. He has plenty of support and a sizeable proportion of the US electorate consider him a hero. I'm dubious. But I was dubious in 2016 too. Regardless, this evidence is weaker than weak tea. It was a Trump audience by design.
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16th May 2023, 02:18 AM	#245
dann Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 17,863	Originally Posted by varwoche It was a Trump audience by design. They weren't all Trumpists, but CNN Trump Town Hall Audience Was Told “Please Do Not Boo” (New Republic, May 12, 2023)
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16th May 2023, 05:57 AM	#246
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16th May 2023, 06:06 AM	#247
Mike! Official Ponylandistanian National Treasure. Respect it! Join Date: May 2010 Location: Ponylandistan! Where the bacon grows on trees! Can it get any better than that? I submit it can not! Posts: 50,202	Originally Posted by dirtywick if anyone ever tells you not to boo you should automatically be booing Kind of my thinking as well, what was CNN going to do about it during their LIVE broadcast anyway, bleep it out?
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16th May 2023, 06:21 AM	#248
Segnosaur Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Canada, eh? Posts: 19,897	Originally Posted by Mike! Kind of my thinking as well, what was CNN going to do about it during their LIVE broadcast anyway, bleep it out? I suspect probably just call a commercial break and get security to remove the non-compliant. Sent from my moto e using Tapatalk
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14th May 2023, 11:25 PM	#241
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 30,322	Originally Posted by newyorkguy The photo is from a Washington Post news story, not from the CNN Town Hall. (Were any photos taken? I haven't seen any.) I chose it at random and it was supposed to be sarcastic. That is, I'm sure trump supporters -- and only trump supporters -- would cheer on those kinds of comments. I have to admit wondering, though, if Jean Carroll having been in an interracial marriage may have angered trump -- her husband, John Johnson, was a well-known New York TV news broadcaster (though I believe they'd divorced by the time trump attacked her) -- and was the motivation for trump deciding to sexually attack her when they had a chance encounter. Carroll and Johnson were divorced in 1990.

15th May 2023, 04:46 AM	#242
newyorkguy Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: NY Posts: 13,077	The Daily Beast reported last week: Quote: Judge Lewis Kaplan reportedly denied Trump lawyer Joe Tacopina’s request last month to question Carroll about an argument she described in a book during which she called her ex-husband John Johnson “an ape” on the grounds that the “the unfair prejudicial effect” of the comment “outrageously outweighs any probative value.” Daily Beast news link A wife calling her husband an ape during a fight -- then relating it in an autobiography -- seems completely irrelevant to an allegation that trump sexually attacked Jean Carroll. I think Judge Kaplan was right, Tacopina's strategy was outrageously prejudicial. Which I guess was the whole idea.

16th May 2023, 09:35 AM	#249
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 30,322	It certainly gave a wrong impression that everyone there was a Trump supporter when all we heard at home was the clapping and no dissenting boos. Trump needed to hear the booing, too, not just the clapping.

16th May 2023, 12:40 PM	#250
Lurch Master Poster Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Ottawa Posts: 2,411	Actually, the kind of decorum formerly imposed in such settings would have been the correct and neutral policy. Permitting the cheers but forbidding the jeers is grossly improper and unbalanced for a purported news outlet. CNN deserves every helping of opprobrium heaped upon it.

16th May 2023, 08:01 PM	#251
8enotto Master Poster Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: Mexico Posts: 2,872	Originally Posted by Segnosaur I suspect probably just call a commercial break and get security to remove the non-compliant. Sent from my moto e using Tapatalk They can do delay loops on live broadcasts so they can catch and cut out the hecklers undetected to everyone else. Rush Limbaugh had a 15 second delay in his radio show. He exercised it well for a while to keep his show on subject and the hecklers frustrated. Art Bell also made excellent use of it. He needed it bad too for the laughable topics he aired. Hecklers lined up to crank old Art.

16th May 2023, 08:42 PM	#252
Ladewig I lost an avatar bet. Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 28,767	Originally Posted by dirtywick if anyone ever tells you not to boo you should automatically be booing Or laugh uncontrollably at each lie.
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16th May 2023, 08:50 PM	#253
Ladewig I lost an avatar bet. Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 28,767	Originally Posted by Stacyhs It certainly gave a wrong impression that everyone there was a Trump supporter when all we heard at home was the clapping and no dissenting boos. Trump needed to hear the booing, too, not just the clapping. If Trump heard booing he would tell himself that the talking head who introduced him was so bad that people were still booing him after Trump started. He really thinks he is so smart, so clever, so handsome, so incisive, so witty, so admirable, so …yadda yadda that the only people who could dislike him are mentally unstable or are somehow making money off of showing disapproval.
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16th May 2023, 09:13 PM	#254
The Man Unbanned zombie poster Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Poughkeepsie, NY Posts: 17,528	Originally Posted by dirtywick if anyone ever tells you not to boo you should automatically be booing Originally Posted by Ladewig Or laugh uncontrollably at each lie. Throw a shoe, someone did it to bush and he was Persident at the time. Though, given the condition of upon lying. The audiance could quickly run out of shoes.
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16th May 2023, 09:53 PM	#255
Norman Alexander Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Dharug & Gundungurra Posts: 14,983	Originally Posted by The Man Throw a shoe, someone did it to bush and he was Persident at the time. Though, given the condition of upon lying. The audiance could quickly run out of shoes. Some of them would throw their panties. Including the GOP women.
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16th May 2023, 11:10 PM	#256
BrettM Scholar Join Date: Jun 2022 Posts: 107	Originally Posted by Ladewig Or laugh uncontrollably at each lie. You would laugh so much, you would die laughing.
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17th May 2023, 04:43 AM	#257
The Man Unbanned zombie poster Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Poughkeepsie, NY Posts: 17,528	Originally Posted by Norman Alexander Some of them would throw their panties. Including the GOP women. Naw, if they threw their panties they'd have to stick one of their hand guns somewhere else.
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17th May 2023, 01:33 PM	#258
Mike! Official Ponylandistanian National Treasure. Respect it! Join Date: May 2010 Location: Ponylandistan! Where the bacon grows on trees! Can it get any better than that? I submit it can not! Posts: 50,202	And one of Trump's top lawyers has thrown in the towel... Originally Posted by NYT Trump Lawyer Resigns From Defense Team in Special Counsel Inquiries Timothy Parlatore, who has been defending the former president in the investigations into classified documents and Jan. 6, is leaving as federal prosecutors appear to be nearing decisions about bringing charges. https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/17/u...20legal%20team.
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17th May 2023, 01:42 PM	#259
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17th May 2023, 01:54 PM	#260
quadraginta Becoming Beth Join Date: May 2009 Location: Central Vale of Humility (USA, sort of) Posts: 26,869	Originally Posted by Mike! And one of Trump's top lawyers has thrown in the towel... https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/17/u...20legal%20team. Quote: Last month, Mr. Parlatore wrote a letter to Congress asking lawmakers for help in taking the documents investigation away from prosecutors and giving it to the intelligence community — a move that, among other things, would have removed the threat of a criminal indictment against Mr. Trump. The letter also seemed to preview some of Mr. Trump’s potential defenses in the documents case, noting that during his chaotic departure from the White House, aides “quickly packed everything into boxes and shipped them to Florida.” This hasty process, Mr. Parlatore argued, suggested that “White House institutional processes,” not “intentional decisions by President Trump,” were responsible for sensitive material being hauled away. Last week, Mr. Trump appeared to undercut those assertions on live television, declaring at a CNN town hall event that he knowingly removed government records from the White House and claiming that he was allowed to take anything he wanted with him as his personal property. “I took the documents,” he said at the event. “I’m allowed to.” I bet none of that had anything to do with his decision to ~~bail out~~ withdraw.
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17th May 2023, 02:15 PM	#261
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18th May 2023, 01:36 AM	#262
Norman Alexander Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Dharug & Gundungurra Posts: 14,983	Originally Posted by The Man Naw, if they threw their panties they'd have to stick one of their hand guns somewhere else. They do. And they *love* it!
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18th May 2023, 05:52 AM	#263
Lurch Master Poster Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Ottawa Posts: 2,411	Originally Posted by Norman Alexander Some of them would throw their panties. Including the GOP women. What would be the mantie to pantie ratio, the world wonders?

18th May 2023, 03:32 PM	#264
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 30,322	Originally Posted by Ladewig If Trump heard booing he would tell himself that the talking head who introduced him was so bad that people were still booing him after Trump started. He really thinks he is so smart, so clever, so handsome, so incisive, so witty, so admirable, so …yadda yadda that the only people who could dislike him are mentally unstable or are somehow making money off of showing disapproval. I don't think so. He'd know they were booing and why but he'd act like it was something else. It would get under his skin.

18th May 2023, 03:34 PM	#265
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 30,322	Originally Posted by Norman Alexander Some of them would throw their panties. Including the GOP women. And Lindsey Graham.

18th May 2023, 04:37 PM	#266
Norman Alexander Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Dharug & Gundungurra Posts: 14,983	Originally Posted by Lurch What would be the mantie to pantie ratio, the world wonders? Ugh. No, we don't.
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18th May 2023, 05:00 PM	#267
alfaniner Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Sorth Dakonsin Posts: 27,901	Originally Posted by Stacyhs I don't think so. He'd know they were booing and why but he'd act like it was something else. It would get under his skin. And bristle. Oh, how I love to see him bristle. It's only been a couple of times but it was delicious.
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19th May 2023, 07:47 AM	#268
Frank Newgent Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 7,076	Quote: The Georgia prosecutor leading an investigation into former President Donald J. Trump and his allies has taken the unusual step of announcing remote work days for most of her staff during the first three weeks of August, asking judges in a downtown Atlanta courthouse not to schedule trials for part of that time as she prepares to bring charges in the inquiry. The moves suggest that Fani T. Willis, the Fulton County district attorney, is expecting a grand jury to unseal indictments during that time period. Ms. Willis outlined the remote work plan and made the request to judges in a letter sent on Thursday to 21 Fulton County officials, including the chief county judge, Ural Glanville, and the sheriff, Pat Labat. https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/19/u...ni-willis.html
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19th May 2023, 06:30 PM	#269
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 30,322	Originally Posted by Frank Newgent https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/19/u...ni-willis.html Furthermore, note the highlighted: Quote: In a letter Thursday to the chief judge of the courthouse, Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis said she plans on having 70% of her staff working remotely between July 31 and Aug. 18. Those who will remain in the courthouse at that time include the leadership staff and "all armed investigators," according to the letter, a copy of which was obtained by NBC News. Seems Fanni may be expecting some trouble those two weeks in August. A Trump indictment would be a very nice anniversary present for me.

19th May 2023, 08:03 PM	#270
Segnosaur Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Canada, eh? Posts: 19,897	Originally Posted by Frank Newgent The Georgia prosecutor leading an investigation into former President Donald J. Trump and his allies has taken the unusual step of announcing remote work days for most of her staff during the first three weeks of August... The moves suggest that Fani T. Willis, the Fulton County district attorney, is expecting a grand jury to unseal indictments during that time period. https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/19/u...ni-willis.html So I guess there is a bit of a race... Who will issue indictments first, The DOJ over Documents/Jan6, or Fani Willis in Georgia. But there is also another race... will Willis be able to actually indict Trump (if he actually is one of the people charged) and have him up for trial before the state government takes actions to block her from prosecuting Trump. From: AP News Gov. Brian Kemp signed a bill into law Friday creating a new commission empowered to discipline and remove wayward prosecutors, saying it will curb “far-left prosecutors” who are “making our communities less safe.”... Some have viewed the law as Republican retribution against Willis, who is considering criminal charges against former President Donald Trump over interference in Georgia’s 2020 election.
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20th May 2023, 05:36 PM	#271
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 30,322	Originally Posted by Segnosaur So I guess there is a bit of a race... Who will issue indictments first, The DOJ over Documents/Jan6, or Fani Willis in Georgia. But there is also another race... will Willis be able to actually indict Trump (if he actually is one of the people charged) and have him up for trial before the state government takes actions to block her from prosecuting Trump. From: AP News Gov. Brian Kemp signed a bill into law Friday creating a new commission empowered to discipline and remove wayward prosecutors, saying it will curb “far-left prosecutors” who are “making our communities less safe.”... Some have viewed the law as Republican retribution against Willis, who is considering criminal charges against former President Donald Trump over interference in Georgia’s 2020 election. What about 'far-RIGHT prosecutors'?

21st May 2023, 06:01 AM	#272
The Man Unbanned zombie poster Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Poughkeepsie, NY Posts: 17,528	Originally Posted by Stacyhs What about 'far-RIGHT prosecutors'? They'd be the ones prosecuting the “far-left prosecutors”.
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21st May 2023, 02:18 PM	#273
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 30,322	Another lawyer dumps Trump. Quote: Tim Parlatore, one of the lawyers defending Donald Trump against special counsel Jack Smith’s investigation into the handling of documents marked as classified, has resigned from the former president’s legal team. “It’s personal and it’s got nothing to do with my belief in the strength of the case,” Parlatore told POLITICO Wednesday morning. Sure. Sure, it doesn't, Tim.

21st May 2023, 03:04 PM	#274
Mike! Official Ponylandistanian National Treasure. Respect it! Join Date: May 2010 Location: Ponylandistan! Where the bacon grows on trees! Can it get any better than that? I submit it can not! Posts: 50,202	Originally Posted by Stacyhs Another lawyer dumps Trump. Sure. Sure, it doesn't, Tim. Check bounced.
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21st May 2023, 03:07 PM	#275
Norman Alexander Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Dharug & Gundungurra Posts: 14,983	Originally Posted by The Man Originally Posted by Stacyhs What about 'far-RIGHT prosecutors'? They'd be the ones prosecuting the “far-left prosecutors”. Prosecutors at 10 paces! Turn and fire!
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21st May 2023, 03:12 PM	#276
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 30,322	Originally Posted by Norman Alexander Prosecutors at 10 paces! Turn and fire! Unfair advantage to the right-wing prosecutors! They learned to shoot while still in utero!