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Old 24th May 2023, 11:01 PM   #321
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Hell no, give him the eternal ignominy he deserves. Billions of years form now in a galaxy far, far away. Students of all galactic species should be given classes in how not to be such a self-eviscerating dufus.

Lesson #1: At times keep your freak’n mouth, or enunciating hole (for other species), shut!

ETA: The saddest part is if he had just held to that precept and kept the quite part a bit more quite he might have gotten closer to emulating those tyrants he so admires. Still, no fat lady singing yet, so complacency is not an option.
I would pay top dollar to see him tarred and feathered outside the White House, then clapped in the stocks pantless for a few days on Pay-Per-View. But that ain't gonna happen.

The only ignominy Trump acknowledges and hates is when he is ignored. Zero ratings. No churn. Name not in print. Etc. And that would be in the form of some headline like "Absolute certain nominee Trump 100% rejected in favour of younger, more successful candidates...in the GOP primaries".
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Old 24th May 2023, 11:40 PM   #322
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I know the Dominion lawsuit wasn't a criminal charge, but this seemed the best thread for this:


The Independent

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Donald Trump launched into a bizarre rant on Truth Social about the payout to Dominion Voting Systems.

“So Dominion gets almost a Billion Dollars and I, after years of Fake News, Hoaxes, Scams, and Investigations, am entitled to NOTHING? Is that really the way it’s supposed to work? I don’t think so!” the former president wrote on Tuesday.
Someone hand that man a cheese plate.
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That's exactly the way it's supposed to work. He firmly believes himself to be the most important person in the universe.
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Old 25th May 2023, 01:18 AM   #324
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Originally Posted by Norman Alexander View Post
I would pay top dollar to see him tarred and feathered outside the White House, then clapped in the stocks pantless for a few days on Pay-Per-View. But that ain't gonna happen.

The only ignominy Trump acknowledges and hates is when he is ignored. Zero ratings. No churn. Name not in print. Etc. And that would be in the form of some headline like "Absolute certain nominee Trump 100% rejected in favour of younger, more successful candidates...in the GOP primaries".

Run out on a rail, by his own supporters, like in "Oh Brother Where Art Thou" would at least be my preference.

Who the freak cares what he acknowledges or hates? That just feeds into him. If you can't be famous be infamous. He's chosen the latter, he can have it. How can it not be, the defamation adjudication. His enunciating hole, south of his mouth hole has set him up to be punitively if not judiciary slapped, or both, hard. His acknowledgement is not, even legally a concern. He's cooked his own goose there. That it has already been legally determined as defamatory before means you can't even argue otherwise now.

Now a younger, more successful candidates...in the GOP primaries would have a better chance of doing their dirty deeds done dirt cheep, politically wise. **** trump, they're the one's you'd have to look out for. Thankfully the GOP can't get fully behind anyone else (if there were any) yet.
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Old 25th May 2023, 03:13 AM   #325
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Originally Posted by Stacyhs View Post
I know the Dominion lawsuit wasn't a criminal charge, but this seemed the best thread for this:


The Independent

Someone hand that man a cheese plate.
Maybe if he actually managed to successfully sue someone...
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Old 25th May 2023, 01:20 PM   #326
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Originally Posted by arthwollipot View Post
That's exactly the way it's supposed to work. He firmly believes himself to be the most important person in the universe.
The universe was created the moment Trump was born and will end the moment he dies! He is the Alpha and the Omega!
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Old 25th May 2023, 02:39 PM   #327
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Originally Posted by shemp View Post
The universe was created the moment Trump was born and will end the moment he dies! He is the Alpha and the Omega!
I always thought he was the Alpha Sigma Sigma.
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Old 25th May 2023, 02:45 PM   #328
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Maybe if he actually managed to successfully sue someone...
Didn't he manage to successfully sue his own bank for being stupid enough to lend to him?

He also won some lawsuit against some paper for damaging his reputation. The paper's argument was IIRC that he had damaged his own reputation to such a degree that anything he was trying to attribute to them was trivial. He won for $1, again IIRC.
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Old 25th May 2023, 04:23 PM   #329
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Originally Posted by The Man View Post
Didn't he manage to successfully sue his own bank for being stupid enough to lend to him?

He also won some lawsuit against some paper for damaging his reputation. The paper's argument was IIRC that he had damaged his own reputation to such a degree that anything he was trying to attribute to them was trivial. He won for $1, again IIRC.
But people are saying it was the BEST $1 award in the history of $1 award lawsuits...like you've never seen before.

Question: How could Trump's reputation being damaged any more than it already is?
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Old 25th May 2023, 04:57 PM   #330
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But people are saying sir, it was the BEST $1 award in the history of $1 award lawsuits...like you've never seen before.

Question: How could Trump's reputation being damaged any more than it already is?
FIFY

Exactly the papers argument, heck I'd go as high as $5 if I could possibly damage his reputation any more than he has already.
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Old 25th May 2023, 05:44 PM   #331
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It's being reported that Trump had two employees move boxes of documents the day before the FBI search at Mar a Lago.

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Two employees of Donald Trump moved boxes of papers at Mar-a-Lago a day before the Justice Department visited the former president’s residence to collect classified documents , The Washington Post reported Thursday.

The Post, citing people familiar with the matter, reported that investigators view the timing – just before FBI agents and a prosecutor visited the Florida resort to recover the documents sought as part of a subpoena – as a potential sign of obstruction.

Investigators have evidence, the newspaper reported, that the former president kept classified documents in a visible place in his office and had shown them to others. He also allegedly conducted “a ‘dress rehearsal’ for moving sensitive papers” along with his team before they were subpoenaed in May 2022, according to the report.
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Old 25th May 2023, 05:52 PM   #332
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Originally Posted by Stacyhs View Post
I think the odds that Trump will get a federal indictment just went up in Vegas.
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Old 25th May 2023, 07:24 PM   #333
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Originally Posted by dudalb View Post
I think the odds that Trump will get a federal indictment just went up in Vegas.
Oh, it's coming, all right.
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Old 25th May 2023, 07:26 PM   #334
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The universe was created the moment Trump was born and will end the moment he dies! He is the Alpha and the Omega!
It would be funny if it weren't literally what he actually believed.
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Old 26th May 2023, 03:58 AM   #335
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Guess who said: "Trump has the personality of a mortician and the energy that makes Jeb Bush look an Olympian.”

https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/s...83521546481666
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Old 26th May 2023, 05:53 AM   #336
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Originally Posted by Frank Newgent View Post
Guess who said: "Trump has the personality of a mortician and the energy that makes Jeb Bush look an Olympian.”

https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/s...83521546481666
[Without looking...] That could only be some coke-head idiot who fails to edit his own recording?

[With looking...] ****, what are the odds!
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Old 26th May 2023, 06:01 AM   #337
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Didn't he manage to successfully sue his own bank for being stupid enough to lend to him?

He also won some lawsuit against some paper for damaging his reputation. The paper's argument was IIRC that he had damaged his own reputation to such a degree that anything he was trying to attribute to them was trivial. He won for $1, again IIRC.
Yeah, that is when the source was wrong about what they said so the jury legally has to find the person guilty, but they award that amount to show that their reputation was utter trash to begin with.

James Randi, from whom this forum used to be named, was sued by a guy he had called a "child molester" when the guy in question had only pled guilty to possession of child pornography. Said guy admitted to having sex with a minor he was the legal guardian of during the trial. The jury had to find Randi guilty but award the plaintiff $1.

Its the legal way of saying "you're too much of a **** to be slandered".
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Originally Posted by Frank Newgent View Post
Guess who said: "Trump has the personality of a mortician and the energy that makes Jeb Bush look an Olympian.”

https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/s...83521546481666
You must admit though, it's an ingenious way to write yourself out of a will.
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[Without looking...] That could only be some coke-head idiot who fails to edit his own recording?

[With looking...] ****, what are the odds!
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Trump captured on tape acknowledging he kept a classified document on Iran...

https://news.yahoo.com/trump-capture...eqxE_QD6LJjcxF
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Trump captured on tape acknowledging he kept a classified document on Iran...

https://news.yahoo.com/trump-capture...eqxE_QD6LJjcxF
It's the tapes that always get you in the end. Ask Nixon.
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Oh, it's coming, all right.
Problem is people want everythng to happen quickly. In teal lfie, the legal system takes longer then it does on an episode of "Law And Order",
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Oh, it's coming, all right.
I'll believe it when it happens.
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Criminal Charges Against Trump / Trump Indicted Part II

I am beginning to think so many republican’s are planning to run against Trump thinking he will be taken down by his legal troubles.

However, I will believe it when I see it.
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I am beginning to think so many republican’s are planning to run against Trump thinking he will be taken down by his legal troubles.

However, I will believe it when I see it.
It is stunning to me that he hasn't been already. Anyone else would be in jail by now.
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I am beginning to think so many republican’s are planning to run against Trump thinking he will be taken down by his legal troubles.

However, I will believe it when I see it.
My understanding is that Trump wants a lot of other candidates to split up the "anyone but Trump" vote.
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Trump captured on tape acknowledging he kept a classified document on Iran...

https://news.yahoo.com/trump-capture...eqxE_QD6LJjcxF
From your link:

"Leaks from radical partisans behind this political persecution are designed to inflame tensions and continue the media’s harassment of President Trump and his supporters," Trump spokesperson Steven Cheung said on Wednesday."

So no claim that is not true, then. Saying it was a 'leak' certainly implies it is true.
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It is stunning to me that he hasn't been already. Anyone else would be in jail by now.
But he's not anyone else. He's a former POTUS and the leading GOP contender in 2024. That's why the evidence has to be overwhelming and every single i dotted and t crossed.
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From your link:

"Leaks from radical partisans behind this political persecution are designed to inflame tensions and continue the media’s harassment of President Trump and his supporters," Trump spokesperson Steven Cheung said on Wednesday."

So no claim that is not true, then. Saying it was a 'leak' certainly implies it is true.
Who is Steven Cheung?

I swear, Trump's lackeys are just the latest people to fall mentally ill with Q/Trumpitis.
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Who is Steven Cheung?

I swear, Trump's lackeys are just the latest people to fall mentally ill with Q/Trumpitis.
Obviously not one of the Chinese responsible for the JynaVirus!
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But he's not anyone else. He's a former POTUS and the leading GOP contender in 2024. That's why the evidence has to be overwhelming and every single i dotted and t crossed.
I think they have had overwhelming evidence of multiple crimes for 18 months if not much longer.
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I think they have had overwhelming evidence of multiple crimes for 18 months if not much longer.
Can you imagine what would happen if a loophole was left un-accounted-for? They need to take their time and be absolutely thorough.
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Originally Posted by Orphia Nay View Post
Who is Steven Cheung?

I swear, Trump's lackeys are just the latest people to fall mentally ill with Q/Trumpitis.

Wikipedia says he's a political advisor who worked on Trump's 2016 and 2020 campaigns, and he used to be director of communications for public affairs for Ultimate Fighting Championship. Only two of those things involved someone getting severely beaten in some form.
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Can you imagine what would happen if a loophole was left un-accounted-for? They need to take their time and be absolutely thorough.
I understand that. But I'm still convinced that they have had more than enough incriminating evidence against Trump to convict him of dozens of crimes including espionage, mishandling documents, seditious conspiracy, election interference, obstruction of justice and much more.

How long do they wait? After the next election? Equal justice has become a joke.
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I'll wait until the legal experts say that they've got enough evidence.
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I'll wait until the legal experts say that they've got enough evidence.
You do understand that they're terrified.
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You do understand that they're terrified.
And that there is precedent where the legal experts have said that they have enough evidence to prosecute Trump, but were prevented from proceeding further. As you say, though, just about any smart person would be a bit terrified. Holding Trump accountable is probably worse than holding the mafia accountable, at present. Pretty much all the same risks to oneself and those one cares about, with additional nigh certainty of social death among right wingers and likely professional consequences in practice on top of that if right wingers are in a position of power there (likely, given the quite significant rightward lean across the Justice system).
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And yet, mafia bosses have still been prosecuted.
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Old 31st May 2023, 09:45 PM   #359
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And that there is precedent where the legal experts have said that they have enough evidence to prosecute Trump, but were prevented from proceeding further. As you say, though, just about any smart person would be a bit terrified. Holding Trump accountable is probably worse than holding the mafia accountable, at present. Pretty much all the same risks to oneself and those one cares about, with additional nigh certainty of social death among right wingers and likely professional consequences in practice on top of that if right wingers are in a position of power there (likely, given the quite significant rightward lean across the Justice system).
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And yet, mafia bosses have still been prosecuted.
Yes they have been. But this has been delayed to the point of absurdity.
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Yes they have been. But this has been delayed to the point of absurdity.
Indeed. The point isn't that Trump cannot be prosecuted, but rather that it's so far past the point where pretty much anyone else would have been that it's absurd. There's understandable reason for such, but those reasons are largely not well in line with anything normal.
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