The thread for Non Drag Queens charged with child sexual assault

[shemp]

With mug shot goodness!

Plea deal likely for former Plover youth pastor accused of child sexual assault

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PLOVER, Wis. (WSAW) -- The former Plover youth pastor charged with child sexual assault is scheduled to reach a plea agreement in his case this summer.

Jordan Huffman, 52, is charged with eight counts including first-degree sexual assault of a child, child enticement and contributing to the delinquency of a child. Huffman was arrested last August in Florida. He was extradited to Wisconsin and remained in custody until September. He’s free on a $100,000 cash bond. According to online court records, Huffman will be monitored by GPS or electronic monitoring.

Amazing how many child-molesting youth pastors are not drag queens!

[shemp]

This time, it's a youth softball coach who's a not-a-drag-queen molester! With mug shot goodness!

https://twitter.com/antifaoperative/...33489222995969

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Florida youth softball coach, Andrew Overheul, has been indicted by the DOJ for producing child sexual abuse materials using four minors.

[casebro]

Regarding the actual subject at hand, Why is Shemp so concerned with Drag Queens being accused of child molestations?

I've got one for you Shemp:

Non Drag Queen charged with having a goat for a lover. Film at 11, on selected pay-per-view sites only.

[Upchurch]

Well, if they’re not a drag queen, they must surely be trans, right?

Right?

[Susheel]

Originally Posted by casebro

Regarding the actual subject at hand, Why is Shemp so concerned with Drag Queens being accused of child molestations?

I've got one for you Shemp:

Non Drag Queen charged with having a goat for a lover. Film at 11, on selected pay-per-view sites only.

I guess he was providing tongue-in-cheek commentary on the hypocritical right-wing talking point of pre-emptively accusing drag performers of being sexual predators with no real evidence while ignoring actual evidenced predatory practices in institutions coddled by the same group---church, sports, etc.

[sir drinks-a-lot]

You'd probably get a lot more hits if you included drag queens.

[catsmate]

Originally Posted by sir drinks-a-lot

You'd probably get a lot more hits if you included drag queens.

What is that supposed to mean?

[shemp]

The richest man in South Dakota, who is probably not a drag queen, has been under investigation for years for having child porn on his computer, but nothing has been done.

Unsealed Docs Reveal Investigation Into Child Porn on Billionaire’s Account

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Multiple images of nude underage girls were found on an email account linked to billionaire banker T. Denny Sanford, according to affidavits released Thursday.

Sanford, the richest man in South Dakota with connections to several powerful officials, was under investigation for three years for accessing and possessing child pornography. No charges were filed in South Dakota after the investigation concluded in May 2022.

Sanford had waged a legal battle for a year to keep the affidavits sealed, despite state law stating they should be released once a decision not to charge him had been made. But on April 6, the South Dakota Supreme Court upheld a 2022 circuit court ruling that the probable cause documents be released. Sanford had another chance to appeal that decision, but did not.

During the investigation three images of nude underage females, which were repeated in 36 total files, were discovered. The photos show the girls’ bare breasts and vaginas, search warrants said. Their ages were estimated at between 8-12 years old, 10-15 years old, and 12-15 years old, according to an affidavit prepared by South Dakota Division of Criminal Investigation Agent Jeff Kollars, who has experience and training in sexual exploitation cases. In 2018, he was nominated for a national award for his work by the National Center for Missing & Exploited Children.

Kollars filed the first affidavit in the Sanford investigation on Dec. 9, 2019, and four more on March 12, 2020.

Other nude images of young girls were discovered during the investigation into an AOL email account that Sanford had access to during the time period. In addition, investigators found a photo of Sanford’s driver’s license, a June 2019 letter from the Dalai Lama to Sanford “thanking him for support for a University of California San Diego T. Denny Sanford Institute for Empathy and Compassion,” and a hotel receipt in Sanford’s name on the account. It also contained photos of Sanford in an airplane, wearing a hospital gown and sitting at a table.

Also, who the hell still uses AOL?

[sir drinks-a-lot]

Originally Posted by catsmate

What is that supposed to mean?

Another way of saying it is that the thread could be much longer if drag queens were included. Get it now?

[autumn1971]

Originally Posted by sir drinks-a-lot

Another way of saying it is that the thread could be much longer if drag queens were included. Get it now?

So your massive file of evidence of these predatory drag queens is foiled by the thread title.

Curses!

[Darat]

Originally Posted by sir drinks-a-lot

You'd probably get a lot more hits if you included drag queens.

What sort of percentage change are we talking about?

[shemp]

Originally Posted by sir drinks-a-lot

Another way of saying it is that the thread could be much longer if drag queens were included. Get it now?

If you have evidence, start your own thread. I'd be interested to see how many drag queens have actually molested children or possessed child porn.

[casebro]

Originally Posted by sir drinks-a-lot

You'd probably get a lot more hits if you included drag queens.

What is "more hits" a euphemism for?

[Susheel]

Originally Posted by sir drinks-a-lot

Another way of saying it is that the thread could be much longer if drag queens were included. Get it now?

Really? Can you provide something concrete other than a snide claim? Right now it seems like its not the drag queens who are the problem, but those accusing the drag queens of being the problem.

[catsmate]

Originally Posted by sir drinks-a-lot

Another way of saying it is that the thread could be much longer if drag queens were included. Get it now?

So you're claiming that the rate of sexual abuse of children among drag performers is much higher than the general public?
That's just silly.

[Gulliver Foyle]

Originally Posted by sir drinks-a-lot

Another way of saying it is that the thread could be much longer if drag queens were included. Get it now?

If you think that drag queens get arrested a lot, then you'll be able to provide the evidence.

[The Atheist]

Originally Posted by shemp

The richest man in South Dakota, who is probably not a drag queen, has been under investigation for years for having child porn on his computer, but nothing has been done.

A lot of child porn collectors are old rich white men.

A bloke who had been NZ's richest man for a number of years actually got sent to jail for it.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/cri...ldabuse-images

He was never a drag queen either.

[Darat]

Christian missionary, not yet confirmed to be a drag queen: https://lawandcrime.com/crime/former...cts-gonorrhea/

"...An Iowa man and former Christian missionary was convicted of sexually abusing a child after prosecutors told jurors the victim contracted gonorrhea...."

[novaphile]

Originally Posted by shemp

If you have evidence, start your own thread. I'd be interested to see how many drag queens have actually molested children or possessed child porn.

Do you count pantomime performers as 'drag queens' ?

[novaphile]

I'm thinking of this guy (Ric Marshall):

https://www.news.com.au/national/sou...2e78d1a60e4a04

My parents were very keen for me to act for 'The Cottage Theatre' and Ric Marshall always played the 'dame' role in every pantomime he put on.

I can't remember why I strongly didn't want to work with him, in hindsight, I think he was probably creepy.

Personally, I don't think that pantomime qualifies as a drag queen performance, but I'm interested in the opinions of others.

(i.e. Ric Marshall belongs in this thread in my opinion)

[arthwollipot]

Panto isn't a drag show, but I would say that some of the performers in panto are in drag.

[The_Animus]

Originally Posted by sir drinks-a-lot

You'd probably get a lot more hits if you included drag queens.

No, it wouldn't. That's the entire point, which I think you know.

But please start your own thread so we can compare. In betting it'll go about as well as the terrorism on the right vs terrorism on the left threads.

[Parsman]

Do we count Catholic priests as drag queens because they dress up in frocks? That might affect the list quite a bit.

[Venom]

Originally Posted by The_Animus

No, it wouldn't. That's the entire point, which I think you know.

But please start your own thread so we can compare. In betting it'll go about as well as the terrorism on the right vs terrorism on the left threads.

That's the thing about these threads. I don't know what exactly about drag queens is more "sexual" as JoeMorgue once said, compared to other people and events.

It boils down to paranoia that children will "turn gay" upon seeing them. Maybe they should worry more about unwanted pregnancy after taking their tweens to football games featuring half-naked cheerleaders.

[shemp]

Probable non-drag queen in the Texas legislature gives alcohol to, and has sex with, a 19-year-old member of his staff.

Texas House committee recommends expelling Rep. Bryan Slaton

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A House committee has recommended the expulsion of Republican state Rep. Bryan Slaton after finding he had engaged in inappropriate sexual conduct with an aide, then acted to thwart an investigation into the matter.

A scathing report by the House General Investigating Committee, distributed to House shortly after noon Saturday, found Slaton did not dispute allegations that he had sex with the 19-year-old woman and provided alcohol to her, nor did he express regret or remorse for his conduct. Instead, the report said, Slaton’s lawyer argued the complaints should be dismissed because the behavior occurred in Slaton’s Austin residence, not the workplace.

What the hell kind of ******* defense is that!? "Gee, I didn't rape her in my office, so it's OK!"

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The report found Slaton had sex with the 19-year-old staffer in the early hours of April 1 at his apartment in Austin. The aide told the committee Slaton had provided her several drinks of rum and coke and that she consumed “a lot of alcohol” and felt “really dizzy.” The aide declined to answer questions from the committee about sexual activity.

The aide’s friend told the committee that the woman, who had never had sex before, said she had unprotected sex with Slaton and obtained Plan B pregnancy-prevention medication from a drugstore the next day. The committee concluded that because the aide was intoxicated, she “could not effectively consent to intercourse and could not indicate whether [Slaton’s conduct] was welcome or unwelcome.”

Of course, they can afford to get rid of him, because he'll just be replaced by another GQP good old boy. If they were in danger of losing his district, they'd probably fight tooth and nail to defend him.

[Samson]

Originally Posted by novaphile

Do you count pantomime performers as 'drag queens' ?

Watched Dick Whittington when young where Dick was played by a woman. Does that make her a drag king?

[novaphile]

Originally Posted by Samson

Watched Dick Whittington when young where Dick was played by a woman. Does that make her a drag king?

I have a suspicion that, that is another one of those 'pantomime' traditions.

I've seen three different versions and the 'male' lead was played by a woman in all three.

Google says:

Principal Boys (think Aladdin, Jack and good old Dick Whittington) tend to be played by women, and the first ever principal boy role was played by an actress called Eliza Povey, who played Jack in Jack and the Beanstalk at Drury Lane in 1819.

https://www.cambridgeartstheatre.com...ow-about-panto

[Craig4]

Here's a thought. Instead of worrying about types of people, you could come up with child safety risk management plans that would mitigate the chances anyone molesting children.

[catsmate]

Originally Posted by novaphile

I have a suspicion that, that is another one of those 'pantomime' traditions.

I've seen three different versions and the 'male' lead was played by a woman in all three.

Google says:

Principal Boys (think Aladdin, Jack and good old Dick Whittington) tend to be played by women, and the first ever principal boy role was played by an actress called Eliza Povey, who played Jack in Jack and the Beanstalk at Drury Lane in 1819.

https://www.cambridgeartstheatre.com...ow-about-panto

Breeches roles.

[novaphile]

Originally Posted by catsmate

Breeches roles.

There's a few operas that I like listening to, but in person, I found that I couldn't stretch my suspension of disbelief that far when watching a live performance.

For example, a very large woman, in her fifties, playing the role of a 14 year old girl, with everyone dancing around exclaiming how young, slim and pretty she is...

Much easier to just listen to the music.

[Samson]

Originally Posted by novaphile

There's a few operas that I like listening to, but in person, I found that I couldn't stretch my suspension of disbelief that far when watching a live performance.

For example, a very large woman, in her fifties, playing the role of a 14 year old girl, with everyone dancing around exclaiming how young, slim and pretty she is...

Much easier to just listen to the music.

I am sure you have just breeched a litany of contemporary inclusion protocols right there.

[novaphile]

Originally Posted by Samson

I am sure you have just breeched a litany of contemporary inclusion protocols right there.

Probably.

[Samson]

Originally Posted by novaphile

Probably.

If she was pretty one out of three aint bad.

[arthwollipot]

Originally Posted by Parsman

Do we count Catholic priests as drag queens because they dress up in frocks? That might affect the list quite a bit.

I've tried to argue before that they are not drag queens because the cassock is by definition a garment that can only be worn by men.

The best argument that could be mustered against that was "if it looks like a frock and quacks like a frock...".

[TragicMonkey]

I think "drag queen" implies a great deal more than merely wearing female-appearing clothing. I think it requires attitude, flash, outrageous fashion, sassiness, and above all presence. Calling a cassocked priest a drag queen is like calling a golf cart a Formula 1 racecar: sure, they're both vehicles with wheels but nobody's going to mistake them for each other.

[Emily's Cat]

Originally Posted by Craig4

Here's a thought. Instead of worrying about types of people, you could come up with child safety risk management plans that would mitigate the chances anyone molesting children.

[tyr_13]

Originally Posted by Craig4

Here's a thought. Instead of worrying about types of people, you could come up with child safety risk management plans that would mitigate the chances anyone molesting children.

The point of this thread is that such risk management would never include 'ban children from seeing drag' because it's not valid as a risk. That might seem like a pointless thing to argue but states are making children seeing drag a sex offense so...

[Emily's Cat]

Originally Posted by tyr_13

The point of this thread is that such risk management would never include 'ban children from seeing drag' because it's not valid as a risk. That might seem like a pointless thing to argue but states are making children seeing drag a sex offense so...

And here I thought this thread was supposed to be about pedos that are NOT drag queens. Apparently I was completely wrong about that, and this is actually a thread with which to mock the other thread, and not actually about the stated purpose at all. Sort of a collective, broad-scale call-out thread.

[tyr_13]

Originally Posted by Emily's Cat

And here I thought this thread was supposed to be about pedos that are NOT drag queens. Apparently I was completely wrong about that, and this is actually a thread with which to mock the other thread, and not actually about the stated purpose at all. Sort of a collective, broad-scale call-out thread.

Amassing evidence of this kind is as close as one can get to proving the negative that pearl-clutchers insist on being provided before they agree criminalizing drag around children (or defacto 'drag or trans in public') is a bad idea.

And the mockery of that demand to prove a negative is very useful. Framing it as a 'call-out' thread is just a feeble attempt to leverage board rules to blunt the impact of the mockery. It's fine to mock unskeptical failures of reasoning.

[Matthew Best]

Originally Posted by Emily's Cat

And here I thought this thread was supposed to be about pedos that are NOT drag queens.

Like these people, presumably,, none of whom, as far as I know, are drag queens:

Trans woman jailed for sex with 14-year-old girl

Trans inmate who filmed sexual abuse of 7-year-old daughter

Transgender woman jailed for sexually abusing children

Norwich trans woman had indecent images of children