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Old 25th November 2018, 05:46 AM   #521
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Comets are refractory dust with a minimal mass component of ice.
Nope. They are refractory dust, fluffy primordial dust, ice and organics. And it is all very porous. However, at least you admit the electric comet is dead. Yippee! Please point out the rocky planet with such a surface composition.
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Old 25th November 2018, 06:26 AM   #522
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Nope, compact refractory dust, organics with minimal “ice/s”

Some of your fluffy ducks are consolidated.

Not sure on the planet and if comets were blown of said planets but that does not mean they can not be ROCK. I could put name out a few asteroids though with similar compositions.
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Old 25th November 2018, 06:32 AM   #523
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So irrelevant, comets could be made from green cheese and you’d be happy.

Thought you where a scientist?

These are peer reviewed papers not my rantings.

So play it safe sport and stay within your own discipline.

Seems comets are mostly rock then says another expert.
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Not sure on the planet and if comets were blown of said planets but that does not mean they can not be ROCK. I could put name out a few asteroids though with similar compositions.
Nope, they cannot have have blasted off a planet. That is idiotic. And they CANNOT be rock. It would have been detected. It wasn't. Now quit lying.
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Nope, compact refractory dust, organics with minimal “ice/s”
Quit lying. There are two distinctly different types of dust detected. Consolidated, and fluffy. Kind of like the difference between a grain of sand and cigarette ash.
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Old 25th November 2018, 07:53 AM   #526
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Papers from November 2018 on circuit theory in relation to comets and that comets are predominantly refractory dust and organics not new enough for you?

That are just confirming, for me at least, my model is correct.


Comets are rocks discharging in the solar plasma!

Have not changed my stance since day one over at the universe today forum.
So let me see if I understand correctly.

By “Electric Comet Model” you mean that “comets are rocks discharging in the solar plasma”.

And, to be quite clear, you do NOT mean the Thornhill & Talbott idea of comets being blasted off the Earth in historical times, displaying tails etc due to the Sun’s radial electric fields, jets due to EDM, etc.

If so, then you yourself have posted lots of material that is inconsistent with your own idea (I cannot, in good conscience, call it a “model”).

For example, estimates of the bulk density of at least some comets is consistent with them being “mostly space” (i.e. comets are very porous), and certainly not the ROCK of your idea.

Second, your attempts to provide any details about “discharging in the solar plasma” have shown that you have an exceedingly poor grasp of the relevant physics; in fact, what you have posted on this is, without a doubt, no more than cherry picking words that you think bolster your case.

If you are not just trolling, why is it that you never (as far as I can tell) even try to dig into the details? Why, for example, have you never (apparently) taken tusenfem’s advice and at least tried to understand some very basic plasma physics?
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Seems comets are mostly rock then says another expert.
Will you quit LYING?

Show this detection of rock, LIAR.

I am getting sick to death of this continual LYING and OBFUSCATION.

Show this detection of rock, or ST*U.
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Just to take a break from the crap, there is a new paper in MNRAS;

Surface localization of gas sources on comet 67P/Churyumov-Gerasimenko based on DFMS/COPS data
Läuter. M. et al.
https://academic.oup.com/mnras/advan...dFrom=fulltext

Seems the global gas production rate over the mission was ~ 6 x 109 kg.
That is six million tonnes. Which, using H2O ice = six million m3. Six million m3 is equivalent to a hole in the ground that is 600m long x 100m wide x 100m deep.

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And the dust-to-ice ratio in the mass loss was ~ 0.5 with significant error bars. IOW there may have been twice as much mass loss from ice as from dust.
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Old 25th November 2018, 02:30 PM   #529
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So rock-like = mostly rock! ...
A stupid post to to detail from his electric comet insanity.

The description "rock-like" means the terrain looks like rock in images.
Usual insane insult of Michael A’Hearn stating that comets are made of actual rock.

Nothing to do with Sol88's electric comet insanity:
Sol88's comet delusions include comets are rocks; these rocks were blasted from the Earth including recently; blasting was by electrical discharges between Earth and Venus; an imaginary solar electric field charges up comets; the charge causes never detected electrical discharges; comet jets are electrical discharges; images show that comets are rocks; Birkeland currents in comets and their tails with no appropriate magnetic field; papers using bedrock to describe layers of ices support his comet are rock delusion, imaginary double layers do magic; many years of lying that ices have not been detected on comets, a "hard shell of refractory +material on the outside" lie, insanity of consolidated ices and dust in papers being rock, an insane spate of lies about ices and dust papers.
Totally inane delusions about charge separation doing magic. Stupidly thinks that a ambipolar electric field is a double layer.
Insanity of dust removal from the surface changing measured comet density
Electrical discharge machining insanity.
A repeated insane insult of Michael A’Hearn.
A delusion that the estimates of outgassing form ices are wrong.
"water from hydrated minerals" idiocy.

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Lies about a ices and dust comet paper to derail from his electric comet insanity.

Unexpected and significant findings in comet 67P/Churyumov–Gerasimenko: an interdisciplinary view
This is a standard ices and dust comet paper with "A HIGH DUST-TO-WATER RATIO" as astronomers also found with Tempel 1.
There is not even any of his insanity that any astronomer using any geological term w.r.t comets means comets are made of actual rock!

Nothing to do with Sol88's electric comet insanity:
Sol88's comet delusions include comets are rocks; these rocks were blasted from the Earth including recently; blasting was by electrical discharges between Earth and Venus; an imaginary solar electric field charges up comets; the charge causes never detected electrical discharges; comet jets are electrical discharges; images show that comets are rocks; Birkeland currents in comets and their tails with no appropriate magnetic field; papers using bedrock to describe layers of ices support his comet are rock delusion, imaginary double layers do magic; many years of lying that ices have not been detected on comets, a "hard shell of refractory +material on the outside" lie, insanity of consolidated ices and dust in papers being rock, an insane spate of lies about ices and dust papers.
Totally inane delusions about charge separation doing magic. Stupidly thinks that a ambipolar electric field is a double layer.
Insanity of dust removal from the surface changing measured comet density
Electrical discharge machining insanity.
A repeated insane insult of Michael A’Hearn.
A delusion that the estimates of outgassing form ices are wrong.
"water from hydrated minerals" idiocy.

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Where's 67P ice?
A lying question to derail from his electric comet insanity.
He has a quote about 67P's ices. He has been obsessively writing about the measured ratio of dust to ices for weeks !

Sol88's electric comet insanity:
Sol88's comet delusions include comets are rocks; these rocks were blasted from the Earth including recently; blasting was by electrical discharges between Earth and Venus; an imaginary solar electric field charges up comets; the charge causes never detected electrical discharges; comet jets are electrical discharges; images show that comets are rocks; Birkeland currents in comets and their tails with no appropriate magnetic field; papers using bedrock to describe layers of ices support his comet are rock delusion, imaginary double layers do magic; many years of lying that ices have not been detected on comets, a "hard shell of refractory +material on the outside" lie, insanity of consolidated ices and dust in papers being rock, an insane spate of lies about ices and dust papers.
Totally inane delusions about charge separation doing magic. Stupidly thinks that a ambipolar electric field is a double layer.
Insanity of dust removal from the surface changing measured comet density
Electrical discharge machining insanity.
A repeated insane insult of Michael A’Hearn.
A delusion that the estimates of outgassing form ices are wrong.
"water from hydrated minerals" idiocy.
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I could keep going but I think most lurkers here get the idea.
Lurkers already know that Sol88 is sticking to his electric comet insanity and adding to his track record of ignorance, idiocy, delusions, lies and insults.

This is a deluded "Comet 67P appears to be dry and rocky" lie. We know that 67 has no rock at all. We know that 67P is at least 1/6 ices. We know Sol88 is lying about 67P because Unexpected and significant findings in comet 67P/Churyumov–Gerasimenko: an interdisciplinary view
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This water content is much lower than the dust-to-water mass ratio of six in the nucleus. Comet 67P ejects very dry dust, where with dry, we define dust containing less water than 15 per cent of its mass (dust is wet in the opposite case).
We can do simple arithmetic and know that 1\6 is 16.66%. That paper is stating that Comet 67P is wet!
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Then what prey tell does determine the mass of the comet?
An insanely stupid "mass" question to derail from his electric comet insanity.

What determines the mass of a comet is the mass of its atoms ! For 67P, 5/6 of the atoms are in dust and 1/6 of the atoms are in ices.

An irrelevant and stupid question to derail from his electric comet insanity was the stupidity of mentioning porosity as if it determined mass and thus emphasizing his "rock", etc. insanity.
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As shown by Don Scott in his paper on Birkeland currents.
A delusion that his prophet Scott from the Thunderbolts cult can write correct physics.
This is the idiot who turned the Sun into a white dwarf by making the Sun basically a light bulb (externally powered by imaginary electric currents) !
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Irrelevant. ...
An insane "irrelevant" lie to derail from his electric comet insanity

Sol88 repeated a lying "where all this "ICE" is coming from" question when this 9 year old thread and even the sources he has cited has stated where the ices come from.
jonesdave116 listed papers about the detection of ices on 67P !

Sol88 turned a lying question into insanity by mentioning more recent papers which are about dust and ices on 67P. Sol88 adds a blatant lie of "dust to ice ratio of 6-100/1" ! The bulk dust to ice ratio is 6. The dust ejected from the surface is as expected dryer.
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You forgot double layers!
More double layer idiocy to derail from his electric comet insanity.

He has been told many times the reasons why double layers cannot exist at comets and they have never been detected at comets.
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Birkeland currents are not real?

They are in operation at comets.
An idiotic "Birkeland currents" question and lie to derail from his electric comet insanity.

It is the reality of Birkeland currents that means that they do not occur around comets !
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I see you can’t handle the truth, jd116.

Comets are mostly rock with a minor mass fraction from ice.
Insults and comet are mostly actual rock lies to derail from his electric comet insanity

That the electric comet has tenets is what makes the electric comet a religion touted by an ignorant and deluded cult. What makes the electric comet insane dogma is its contents
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Sol88's comet delusions include comets are rocks; these rocks were blasted from the Earth including recently; blasting was by electrical discharges between Earth and Venus; an imaginary solar electric field charges up comets; the charge causes never detected electrical discharges; comet jets are electrical discharges; images show that comets are rocks; Birkeland currents in comets and their tails with no appropriate magnetic field, ...
In the real world, a couple of comets are mostly dust with some ices (a dust to ices ratio of 6 as Sol88 as been quoting obsessively for the last few weeks). That suggests that comets in general have more dust than ices. Time will tell if that is correct.

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Where’s all the exposed water ice?
An insane "exposed water ice" post to derail from his electric comet insanity
The detection of exposed water ice, e.g. on Tempel 1 10 years ago!, has been cited to him many times.
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Maybe, jd116, you’d care to discuss the diamagnetic cavity again and your misunderstanding that cometary outgassing is the cause.
Back to "diamagnetic cavity" lies to derail from his electric comet insanity.

The formation of a diamagnetic cavity is standard cometary science and is not his lie of "cometary outgassing" or his "charge separation" stupidity.
The formation of magnetic cavities in comets (1992)
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They never tested rock, why not?
Insane "They never tested rock" post to derail from his electric comet insanity.
Astronomers are not insane. Astronomers know the measured properties of comets means that they are not actual rock. Astronomers tested the MUPUS results against rational compositions of comets and found them consistent with sintered ices.

His repeated insane insult of Michael A’Hearn stating that comets are actual rock as in Sol88's electric comet insanity.

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Papers from November 2018 on circuit theory in relation to comets and that comets are predominantly refractory dust and organics not new enough for you?
"circuit theory" delusions and lies to derail from his electric comet insanity.

No scientific paper published on comets since we had good data on comets has supported Sol88's electric comet insanity.
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Have not changed my stance since day one over at the universe today forum.
Sol88 sticks to a 12 years of Sol88's electric comet insanity.
Sol88 confirms that this is 12 years of the insanity that comets are actual rock, etc. and has have been obviously lying for the last few weeks about being rational about the measured composition of comets as dust and ices.

Electric Comets by the banned Sol88 2006-May-22.

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And the latest SAFIRE update, enjoy.
Stupidity of a SAFIRE propaganda video instead of actual published science for a science thread. A presentation at an electric universe crank conference emphasizes the insanity at the foundations of the project.
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Or did d you want the actual paper written by the top peer reviewed scientists say in the abstract

Comets are composed of rock.
An insane "Comets are composed of rock." paper lie his electric comet insanity.

No "actual paper written by the top peer reviewed scientists" will state that comets are made of actual rock as in Sol88's electric comet insanity. There are many papers that use the word rock to describe ducat and ices and part of Sol88's electric comet insanity is "insanity of consolidated ices and dust in papers being rock".
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Idiocy of a dust and ices comet paper to derail from his electric comet insanity.

Structure and elastic parameters of the near surface of Abydos site on comet 67P/Churyumov–Gerasimenko, as obtained by SESAME/CASSE listening to the MUPUS insertion phase
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The accelerometers of the SESAME/CASSE instrument aboard Rosetta's lander Philae recorded surface waves produced during the MUPUS hammering phase. After presenting evidence that all feet of Philae were in contact with the ground, we analyze group arrival time differences between the three feet of Philae and obtain a Rayleigh wave velocity between 79ms−1
and 400ms−1, which translate into a shear modulus μ of 3.6 MPa ≤ μ ≤ 346 MPa, and a Young's modulus E of 7.2 MPa ≤ E ≤ 980 MPa (with the lower bounds being better constrained than the upper bounds). Mixture models of snow and regolith suggest a porosity below 0.74. From the frequency-dependent dispersion of the average signal we conclude that the above values are valid for a surface layer of 10 cm to 50 cm thickness, while rigidity is significantly reduced underneath this layer. Our findings are consistent with the concept of a thin consolidated shell around a less rigid interior.
The concept of comets having a "thin consolidated shell" has been around for decades. This paper cites Keller et al., 1986 and a Kührt & Keller, 1994 review.

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More comets are dust and ices to derail from his actual electric comet insanity (comets are actual rock, etc.).
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Idiocy of a dust and ices comet paper to derail from his electric comet insanity.

Structure and elastic parameters of the near surface of Abydos site on comet 67P/Churyumov–Gerasimenko, as obtained by SESAME/CASSE listening to the MUPUS insertion phase

The concept of comets having a "thin consolidated shell" has been around for decades. This paper cites Keller et al., 1986 and a Kührt & Keller, 1994 review.
CONSERT probes the nucleus of comet 67P/C-G

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Indeed, the results show that the small lobe of the comet is consistent with a very loosely compacted (porosity 75–85%) mixture of dust and ice (dust-to-ice ratio 0.4–2.6 by volume) that is fairly homogeneous on the scale of tens of metres. The permittivity value is approximately 1.27.
Mmmm something not right.


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Stupidity of a SAFIRE propaganda video instead of actual published science for a science thread. A presentation at an electric universe crank conference emphasizes the insanity at the foundations of the project.
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Old 25th November 2018, 05:31 PM   #550
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Originally Posted by Reality Check View Post
Back to "diamagnetic cavity" lies to derail from his electric comet insanity.

The formation of a diamagnetic cavity is standard cometary science and is not his lie of "cometary outgassing" or his "charge separation" stupidity.
The formation of magnetic cavities in comets (1992)
Is that how the diamagnetic cavity works Reality Check?

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The diamagnetic cavity is a region devoid of magnetic field, arising at the interface between the incoming solar wind and the outflowing gas from a comet. Based on previous observations at other comets, theoretical simulations had predicted that such a cavity would extend only 50–100 km from the nucleus during the comet's most active months, but one of the first detections made by Rosetta was at 170 km.
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Is that how you and jd116 think it still works?
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Old 25th November 2018, 05:32 PM   #551
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Originally Posted by Reality Check View Post
A delusion that his prophet Scott from the Thunderbolts cult can write correct physics.
This is the idiot who turned the Sun into a white dwarf by making the Sun basically a light bulb (externally powered by imaginary electric currents) !
Nope they did empirical science!

and it's been VERY fruitful!
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Old 25th November 2018, 05:58 PM   #552
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Originally Posted by Reality Check View Post
Sol88 sticks to a 12 years of Sol88's electric comet insanity.
Sol88 confirms that this is 12 years of the insanity that comets are actual rock, etc. and has have been obviously lying for the last few weeks about being rational about the measured composition of comets as dust and ices.

Electric Comets by the banned Sol88 2006-May-22.
I don’t know whether to thank you or curse you, RC!

That CQ thread is ... really depressing, or hilariously funny, or ... but at least it confirms that Sol88 (a.k.a. Starboy)’s primary (or sole?) rationale for his “Electric Comet Theory” is false dichotomy (“mainstream is WRONG, THEREFORE the EC MUST be right!”)!
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Old 25th November 2018, 06:22 PM   #553
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Idiocy of a comets are not rock paper to derail from his electric comets are rock, etc, insanity.
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The Surprising comet (Read code for not expected from a sublimating chunk of ice)
Insane "comet surprises" lie to derail from his electric comets insanity.

The surprising comet does not support the insanity that comets are rock, etc.

The surprising comet is not his lie of "not expected from a sublimating chunk of ice". The lie is insane because no one has said that comets are chunks of ice - they are dust and ices. The lie is insane because the results listed are those expected from a comet made of ices and dust.
  • The comet has dust and ices !
  • The comet has nitrogen and oxygen whose outgassing indicates trapping during formation in the early Solar System.
  • The measured ratio of deuterium to H for 11 comets shows the range of formation conditions.
  • A controlling influence in comet activity is the comet shape.
  • A "diamagnetic cavity" surprise (being at 170 km form the nucleus when models predicted 50–100 km ).
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They beat the big boys at Magnetic confinement fusion!
The abysmal stupidity that SAFIRE are researching magnetic confinement , fusion, or even doing science.

SAFIRE have a more complex version of a plasma globe and the insanity that this is a model of the Sun.

The "big boys at Magnetic confinement fusion" are actually creating fusion and are not insane enough to think that they are modeling the Sun !

Magnetic confinement fusion
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Old 25th November 2018, 06:48 PM   #556
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Is that how the diamagnetic cavity works Reality Check?
An insane "diamagnetic cavity" question to derail from his electric comet insanity

Back to "diamagnetic cavity" lies to derail from his electric comet insanity cites The formation of magnetic cavities in comets (1992)
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Old 25th November 2018, 06:57 PM   #557
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Nope they did empirical science!
Still cannot understand the insanity of Scott making the Sun into a white dwarf.
Astronomy 101: Stable stars need internal heat sources providing a temperature gradient that increases with depth to balance out gravitational weight. Remove that from the Sun and it collapses to a white dwarf now rather than at the end of its lifetime.

Not a surprise that a person with 12 years of spewing out the Thunderbolts cult electric comet insanity is in denial of basic physics.

Sol88's electric comet insanity has been held for over 12 years (since 22 May 2006).

Sol88's comet delusions include comets are rocks; these rocks were blasted from the Earth including recently; blasting was by electrical discharges between Earth and Venus; an imaginary solar electric field charges up comets; the charge causes never detected electrical discharges; comet jets are electrical discharges; images show that comets are rocks; Birkeland currents in comets and their tails with no appropriate magnetic field; papers using bedrock to describe layers of ices support his comet are rock delusion, imaginary double layers do magic; many years of lying that ices have not been detected on comets, a "hard shell of refractory +material on the outside" lie, insanity of consolidated ices and dust in papers being rock, an insane spate of lies about ices and dust papers.
Totally inane delusions about charge separation doing magic. Stupidly thinks that a ambipolar electric field is a double layer.
Insanity of dust removal from the surface changing measured comet density
Electrical discharge machining insanity.
A repeated insane insult of Michael A’Hearn.
A delusion that the estimates of outgassing form ices are wrong.
"water from hydrated minerals" idiocy.
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and it's been VERY fruitful!
A deluded "it's been VERY fruitful" lie when the Thunderbolts cult have overwhelmingly produced insanity.
There are deluded books by the cult prophets Talbott, Thornhill and scott.
Scott does have a few published papers but that includes his idiocy of an externally powered Sun.
SAFIRE have a standard plasma physics paper without their solar model insanity.
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Originally Posted by tusenfem View Post
Fail!

It is clear that you are under the impression that "circuit theory" (as advanced e.g. by Alfvén) means that you just (as an example) take Jesper Lindkvist's simulation, take the plot he made, and just draw in the "circuit". This, of course, make no sense, because in a circuit the currents can only flow along the circuit lines that you have drawn, and in a real plasma currents can flow in any direction, along the magnetic field or perpendicular to the magnetic field.
Circuit theory has its merits, that is not in question, but in order to be able to create a circuit description of a plasma physical process, you will have to know the how and what of plasma physics, in order not to mess up your circuit.

So, it may happen? There could be coupling to other, larger, current systems as well?

Could any of this electric curcuit containing empirically testable both on earth and in space plasma, have plasma structures we are not 100% sure of?

This is a pubic forum, we can do a dash of speculation.

Seems like just such a teaser.
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Old 25th November 2018, 11:55 PM   #560
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Originally Posted by Reality Check View Post
A deluded "it's been VERY fruitful" lie when the Thunderbolts cult have overwhelmingly produced insanity.
There are deluded books by the cult prophets Talbott, Thornhill and scott.
Scott does have a few published papers but that includes his idiocy of an externally powered Sun.
SAFIRE have a standard plasma physics paper without their solar model insanity.
Sorry sport you must have been blow’n the top of a frothy when you read that.

What it actual said was the SAFIRE team, doing repeatable empirical roll ya sleeves up hands on science has been EXTREMELY fruitful for SAFIRE and VERY fruitful for the EU-ES-EC

Reality Confabulator.
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