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Old 13th June 2019, 04:44 AM   #1
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It's all going off in Hong Kong. I can't find a thread about it.

Anyway, here's a journalist being supplied with essential protest kit by those that came better prepared:

https://preview.redd.it/8cl1whsq1343...t=mp4&612e525d



Is it too much of a stretch to remember 1989 at this time?
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Old 13th June 2019, 11:12 AM   #2
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Originally Posted by 3point14 View Post
It's all going off in Hong Kong. I can't find a thread about it.

Anyway, here's a journalist being supplied with essential protest kit by those that came better prepared:

https://preview.redd.it/8cl1whsq1343...t=mp4&612e525d



Is it too much of a stretch to remember 1989 at this time?
This is the sort of thing these kids are resisting

"The demonstrators also appeared mindful of Beijing's growing use of electronic surveillance, such as facial recognition technology, to build dossiers on those it considers politically unreliable, and many of them wore surgical masks to hide their features as well as reduce the effects of tear gas."

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/new...ectid=12240312

China is one thoroughly evil empire.
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Old 13th June 2019, 11:17 AM   #3
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Originally Posted by 3point14 View Post

Is it too much of a stretch to remember 1989 at this time?
not at all.
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Old 13th June 2019, 02:48 PM   #4
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Originally Posted by Samson View Post
China is one thoroughly evil empire.


On my recent trip to Asia, I visited several police states, but China was the only one that felt like a police state. They really wanted you to know that they considered you a threat, even if you were just there on vacation.
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Old 13th June 2019, 03:07 PM   #5
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Originally Posted by Horatius View Post
On my recent trip to Asia, I visited several police states, but China was the only one that felt like a police state. They really wanted you to know that they considered you a threat, even if you were just there on vacation.
Yeah, there's not a lot of velvet glove these days, and plenty of iron fist.

People in HK & Taiwan need to accept that they're part of China and there's absolutely nothing they can do about it.

HK, in particular, should have seen this coming for the past 20 years and more - the two-state system would only work as long it suits China, which involved HK shutting up and making money.

Have your hookers and blow, but don't piss off the Party.
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Old 14th June 2019, 12:16 AM   #6
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This was always on the cards, China gave Patton a fig leaf for his domestic audience but China was always clear that "two systems one country" was a temporary measure. And China "conceded" that for for the simple reason it didn't want to disrupt the cash cow.
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Old 14th June 2019, 02:07 AM   #7
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I find it interesting that those people who are constantly screaming about how the UK and the US are becoming police states are noticeably silent when it comes to this obvious and actual police state. Infowars, for example- yes, I held my nose and had a quick peek- is ignoring this story entirely.
Funny, that.
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Old 14th June 2019, 02:29 AM   #8
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Originally Posted by Cosmic Yak View Post
I find it interesting that those people who are constantly screaming about how the UK and the US are becoming police states are noticeably silent when it comes to this obvious and actual police state. Infowars, for example- yes, I held my nose and had a quick peek- is ignoring this story entirely.
Funny, that.
It really is 1984 being rolled out, but with critical mass.
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There are some positive developments, a few officials have sided with the protestors. The decision on the legislation has been postponed.
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Old 15th June 2019, 04:14 AM   #10
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Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger View Post
There are some positive developments, a few officials have sided with the protestors. The decision on the legislation has been postponed.
How long, do you think, before those officials mysteriously disappear?
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Old 16th June 2019, 10:16 PM   #11
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Originally Posted by 3point14 View Post
It's all going off in Hong Kong. I can't find a thread about it.

Anyway, here's a journalist being supplied with essential protest kit by those that came better prepared:

https://preview.redd.it/8cl1whsq1343...t=mp4&612e525d

Is it too much of a stretch to remember 1989 at this time?
I said it back in 1998 that Kong Kongers will rue the day they went from British rule to Chinese rule.

I hate being right sometimes.

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There was an interesting interview with the BBC's china correspondent saying here was no reporting about this in China.

The BBC also reported 2 million people were involved in the demonstration, I think this indicates just how scared the people of Hong Kong are of the Chinese legal system. In theory having an extradition agreement between Hong Kong and China sounds reasonable obviously the reality would be quite scary. Certainly the church leaders interviewed took the view that they would be at risk of extradition.
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Old Today, 07:15 AM   #13
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Originally Posted by Planigale View Post

The BBC also reported 2 million people were involved in the demonstration, I think this indicates just how scared the people of Hong Kong are of the Chinese legal system. In theory having an extradition agreement between Hong Kong and China sounds reasonable obviously the reality would be quite scary.
Quite scary indeed:

“China is harvesting organs from detainees, tribunal concludes”
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.the...unal-concludes



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“Sometimes it is difficult to avoid the rather gloomy thought that we are seeing the emergence of a superpower that does not believe in individual human rights. “ - from his guardian opinion piece
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