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2nd August 2018, 04:01 PM | #2041 |
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2nd August 2018, 04:03 PM | #2042 |
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It's a poor sort of memory that only works backward - Lewis Carroll (1832-1898) God can make a cow out of a tree, but has He ever done so? Therefore show some reason why a thing is so, or cease to hold that it is so - William of Conches, c1150 |
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2nd August 2018, 04:13 PM | #2043 |
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The world was far less troubled during the Cold War than it has been since that fizzled out.
Southern Baptists in the US, Islamists all over, fundamentalist Judaism in Israel, the BJP in India, Putin kissing the Russian Orthodox ring, all that troubles me. What troubles you : China? Liberals? |
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2nd August 2018, 04:53 PM | #2044 |
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It's a poor sort of memory that only works backward - Lewis Carroll (1832-1898) God can make a cow out of a tree, but has He ever done so? Therefore show some reason why a thing is so, or cease to hold that it is so - William of Conches, c1150 |
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2nd August 2018, 05:43 PM | #2046 |
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2nd August 2018, 07:07 PM | #2048 |
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At the rally tonight in PA, Trump once again said told his adoring followers that the Russia investigation was a hoax; not the collusion investigation, but the Russia investigation. He also falsely claimed that Russia was very unhappy that he had won despite Putin saying clearly in Helsinki that he wanted Trump to win. And the idiots behind him cheered it as if what he was saying was true and not blatant lies. Like I said, you can't fix stupid.
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2nd August 2018, 11:33 PM | #2050 |
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They're likely to tell the truth, assuming Manafort flips..
The first thing is that I've seen it said several times that if the FBI ask you a question then they already know the answer. They're trying to gain leverage by getting you to lie to them, which is a crime. Or, to put it another way, there is no way that the FBI will be relying just on testimony to make its case. There will be corroborating evidence. Page and Manafort (if he flips) will be given immunity for crimes and lenient prosecution for others. That goes away if they lie and, in doing so, contradict what the FBI has evidence for. Then they not only get the book thrown at them, but they are also prosecuted for additional crimes. In other words - once you've taken a deal you have nothing whatsoever to lose by telling the truth and a great deal to lose by lying. If they are at all smart and have even vaguely competent counsel (I know, not necessarily true), then they'll tell the truth, even if under normal circumstances it would be inculpatory. |
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3rd August 2018, 12:48 AM | #2052 |
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3rd August 2018, 04:57 AM | #2054 |
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3rd August 2018, 04:59 AM | #2055 |
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3rd August 2018, 05:02 AM | #2056 |
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Not if you hear his side of the story. He says she kept him waiting. And it was for fifteen minutes.
The BBC has a compleely non-partisan video about this: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-...-for-the-queen |
3rd August 2018, 06:19 AM | #2057 |
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I believe that if someone flips, the FBI will push them for corroborating evidence of whatever they say. In the Manafort trial, anything that Gates says in court could simply be dismissed at Gates' word against Manafort's, but if Gates could point them to offshore bank accounts, or damning emails, etc, that would be a whole 'nother thing. And that's what they'd want.
Many (many!) years ago, a friend of mine was thinking about working with a mid-level drug dealer (importer), and my friend insisted that the importer was "too smart to get caught." He probably was. Some of his associates, however, were not. One was caught, flipped, and told the Feds about some upcoming exchange. The Feds took video of the whole transaction and then arrested the importer while he was carrying a suitcase of drugs. And when the Feds do things like that, the informant's credibility is both established and superfluous. AFAIK, the informant never even appeared in court. |
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3rd August 2018, 07:37 AM | #2060 |
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3rd August 2018, 08:55 AM | #2061 |
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Careful, You might have to end up holding his beer.
We are having to deal with something more vicious in India....only in this case the guy has the backing of a very powerful cartel of religious nut jobs and moneyed self interest (including himself) with the cunning and impunity to get things done. The majority of the media also grovel before them. |
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3rd August 2018, 05:41 PM | #2062 |
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Feinstein is a Chinese spy.
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3rd August 2018, 05:55 PM | #2064 |
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From what I've read so far, the accountants' testimony has been pretty damning, and I can't imagine that the feds hadn't thought to talk to the accountants until Gates suggested it.
Kinda makes me wonder what Gates gave them, because it doesn't look like the Feds needed anything. Maybe Gates gave them the bogus invoices? |
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Not having any previous memories of Trump in the political commentary arena, I found myself wondering, "How can he just lie like that?" But on further inspection, he didn't say Obama wasn't born in the US. All of his commentary was just JAQing off. He bakes some kind of plausible deniability into everything he says. Along with his inner circle and handlers, they've been strongly building up that his words can't possibly mean ANYTHING when challenged. That's like 90% of his MO. The same thing comes up with Giuliani and others in Trump's orbit. They sure as hell feel like they're making claims, but the phrasing always leaves them room to back out of practically anything. It can always be potentially spun in a number of ways that serve their interests given potential facts revealed in the future. It's not exactly lies (although misleading is the intent) or even BS. Both of those things require that speech makes some claim, has some meaning that can be pinned down. And his speech has pretty much no meaning except vague emotional gestures towards things. This has worked FABULOUSLY for him with his public, but I doubt that the intelligence community would be so patient with this crap as the rest of the world has been. |
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4th August 2018, 11:20 AM | #2074 |
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To give some proper perspective to partisan politics. The GOP led House of Representatives has held over 200 hearings into Hillary's emails. Of which only minor issues were ever discovered. OTOH, Despite the FBI, the NSA, the CIA and foreign intelligence services that have all concluded there was Russian meddling in the 2016 election and that meddling continues, there has been precisely 3 on this.
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Clinton continues to be used as a distraction by the Trump WH. They easily manipulate their base by using their hate for her. And the fall for it every time. Don't look at Trump's crazy, lying tweets or behavior! Look over there! Clinton, Clinton, 30,000 emails, Benghazi, Whitewater, Pizzagate, pantsuit!
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4th August 2018, 11:51 AM | #2077 |
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4th August 2018, 11:12 PM | #2078 |
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1. He'd never do that. 2. Okay but he's not currently doing it. 3. Okay but he's not currently technically doing it. 4. Okay but everyone does it. 5. He's doing it, we can't stop him, no point in complaining about it. 6. We all knew he was going to do it which... makes it okay somehow. 7. It's perfectly fine that's he's doing it. |
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4th August 2018, 11:17 PM | #2079 |
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Clinton's lax private server compromised national security. Russian meddling -- if it occurred -- assuming it made any difference -- speculating that it benefited Trump rather than Clinton -- only strengthened national security because we got an America first president.
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