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Old 11th December 2015, 04:46 PM   #161
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Originally Posted by Lopesito View Post
I have no info about a possibility of a virus in jpeg.

mega.nz does not detect viruses in your files, the files are encrypted before uploading into mega.nz and after the download decrypted in your computer; but after downloading the whole zip file can be checked by any anti-virus program without opening it

I suppose that this was the final check if I am preparing viruses to files for you. Feel free, there are no viruses involved.
Sorry but your responses only confirm my unwillingness to download the files. No insult- I simply have no clue who you are or the other members on "your team," who I gather have been sharing files electronically.
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Old 11th December 2015, 04:47 PM   #162
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Plan:
(1) prepare a fake shooting scene with a stuntman lying on the ground
(2) invite real Ahmed Merabet into the death trap and murder him
Evidence?

Quote:
Reality:
(1) due to the problem with Police car entering the wrong way, the Blv Richard Lenoir was upset down and no real fake shooting could be staged, hence the Jordi Mir's movie was digitally corrected to show the shooting scene, but the editor forgot to add the blood into the movie, and what is more important, the shooter did not shoot in reality and no shells were ejected; moreover nobody noticed it and did not include the shells afterwards
Evidence?

Quote:
(2) Ahmed Merabet was murdered according the plan, but the video of the murder leaked into the French online TV; then some clever guy in our team noticed it; hence we have the movie of the murder; moreover in the Eyewitness movie we see murderers in detail ...
Evidence?

Quote:
Unfortunately, the Blv Richard Lenoir was upset down and they skipped the event and prepared only a digital cheated movie.
Consequently they forgot to put the shells on the ground.
They forgot the blood on the ground.
Evidence?
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Old 11th December 2015, 04:47 PM   #163
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Originally Posted by Lopesito View Post
I have no info about a possibility of a virus in jpeg.

mega.nz does not detect viruses in your files, the files are encrypted before uploading into mega.nz and after the download decrypted in your computer; but after downloading the whole zip file can be checked by any anti-virus program without opening it

I suppose that this was the final check if I am preparing viruses to files for you. Feel free, there are no viruses involved.
You would say that if you were trying to get us to upload a virus.
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Old 11th December 2015, 04:48 PM   #164
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This movie is a JFK case. Not CH shooting :-(


If I understand this right, the clip I linked to does not show anything suspicious then?

- True, the missing shells are proved from the other media

And, from reading what you wrote here:
"The first published version is provable edited from 5 takes, there are provable click in the soundtrack, there are provable edits, there are provable cheating with frames, ..."

there is another version which does show something suspicious? Do you have a separate link to that, or would I have to download the whole report to see the other version?

- Just now you must download the file References.zip to get the original full quality movie proving the cheating


ETA: If there is no clip that shows what you find suspicious about the shell casings, that's fine too. But remember, we are talking about one of the strongest proofs. I'm just trying to look at it fairly.

- Yes. All evidences should be cross-checked to get the correct image.
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Old 11th December 2015, 04:54 PM   #165
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I must warn Lopesito that many of us have older siblings. The line "Feel free, there are no viruses involved," reminds me way too much of being told by my older brother, "Trust me, I would never have put a bug in your milk!" From my experience, a questionable reassurance.

But unlike my brother, I am not even accusing Lopesito of including a virus intentionally. Just that his computer might have acquired one from his team or elsewhere.
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Old 11th December 2015, 04:55 PM   #166
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So far this appears to be a classic conspiracy theory in that the "unravelling" of the conspiracy appears to be due to someone spotting "inconsistencies" compared to what they would have expected in a "real" situation. i.e. they cannot find a report of spent shells where they should be, or they see an entry of an estimated location on a computer for a plane that has already crashed, or the number of bullets that someone could fire from a blot action rifle in x seconds, etc...

Perhaps Lopesito would be willing to tell us if the proof from the investigation is largely of this nature? Is the lack of a report of spent shells outside Charlie Hebdo, as cited here, one of the most telling elements of the existence of this conspiracy?
No.

Nevertheless, I understand the spirit of your posts.

If I would ever write anything similar to the quoted post I would say "Awkward!!!".
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Old 11th December 2015, 04:58 PM   #167
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Sorry but your responses only confirm my unwillingness to download the files. No insult- I simply have no clue who you are or the other members on "your team," who I gather have been sharing files electronically.
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Old 11th December 2015, 04:58 PM   #168
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Since the file is hard to access I'm sure the mods won't care if you start to copy and paste it here in chapters. I'm genuinely interested in reading it. I mean it is only fair that I see the report before judging it.
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Old 11th December 2015, 04:59 PM   #169
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Originally Posted by Roger Ramjets View Post
Evidence?

Evidence?

Evidence?

Evidence?
Read Paris2015.pdf & References.zip
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Old 11th December 2015, 04:59 PM   #170
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Originally Posted by Lopesito View Post
I have no info about a possibility of a virus in jpeg.

mega.nz does not detect viruses in your files, the files are encrypted before uploading into mega.nz and after the download decrypted in your computer; but after downloading the whole zip file can be checked by any anti-virus program without opening it

I suppose that this was the final check if I am preparing viruses to files for you. Feel free, there are no viruses involved.
You would say that though, wouldn't you.

See I have a suspicious mind too.
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Old 11th December 2015, 05:03 PM   #171
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Read Paris2015.pdf & References.zip
You just need to accept that no one is going to click on your link.

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Old 11th December 2015, 05:05 PM   #172
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I must warn Lopesito that many of us have older siblings. The line "Feel free, there are no viruses involved," reminds me way too much of being told by my older brother, "Trust me, I would never have put a bug in your milk!" From my experience, a questionable reassurance.

But unlike my brother, I am not even accusing Lopesito of including a virus intentionally. Just that his computer might have acquired one from his team or elsewhere.
I understand.

But, downloading jpeg or zip files and scanning them locally before opening is a common method used worldwide.

But a real CTer knows: They are there. Who? The invisible clones of jelly-fishes !!!
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Old 11th December 2015, 05:05 PM   #173
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Pretty rubbish at the whole conspiracy thing then weren't they?

Pretty rubbish at the whole conspiracy thing - understand

then weren't they - not understand

......................................
The second part turns the first part from a statement to a question. I'm asking if you agree with me.


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All that effort and they used morons, that only someone as sharp as you could pick up on.

This maybe means that the False flag team used stupid persons, that even I can uncover them? Or it is a compliment that only I could uncover?

.......................................

Amazeballs. ???

.........................................

Thanks for translation.
There might be smattering of sarcasm, or there might not. You decide.
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Old 11th December 2015, 05:11 PM   #174
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Since the file is hard to access I'm sure the mods won't care if you start to copy and paste it here in chapters. I'm genuinely interested in reading it. I mean it is only fair that I see the report before judging it.
The pdf file is split into separate pages.
http://paris2015.okis.ru/file/paris2015/page1.jpg
...
http://paris2015.okis.ru/file/paris2015/page145.jpg

The better choice is the whole PDF here:
https://mega.nz/#!iVZkkL5Y!v7AEkEKiM...06okcNE95UZa4A

In skepticforum.com the mod Pyrrho created a local copy of the PDF into drive.google.com


Could the mods do something useful here?
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Old 11th December 2015, 05:13 PM   #175
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You would say that though, wouldn't you.

See I have a suspicious mind too.
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You just need to accept that no one is going to click on your link.
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Old 11th December 2015, 05:17 PM   #177
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Originally Posted by Lopesito View Post
The pdf file is split into separate pages.
http://paris2015.okis.ru/file/paris2015/page1.jpg
...
http://paris2015.okis.ru/file/paris2015/page145.jpg

The better choice is the whole PDF here:
https://mega.nz/#!iVZkkL5Y!v7AEkEKiM...06okcNE95UZa4A

In skepticforum.com the mod Pyrrho created a local copy of the PDF into drive.google.com


Could the mods do something useful here?
I think the mods might think that they are being quite useful being mods, and don't need to be your secretary to prove their usefulness.

Just my opinion, of course.
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We moved from "crankpot theory" through "where are the proofs" into "files with viruses" level.

Déjà vu
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We moved from "crankpot theory" through "where are the proofs" into "files with viruses" level.

Déjà vu
I wish you could share more about the missing shell casings. I really thought that might lead somewhere.
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I think the mods might think that they are being quite useful being mods, and don't need to be your secretary to prove their usefulness.

Just my opinion, of course.
I agree
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I wish you could share more about the missing shell casings. I really thought that might lead somewhere.
Everywhere during the investigation of the CH shooting every single shell was circled with a chalk circle, photographed, checked wrt to fingerprints, ...

This place was photographed from various sides. No shell, no circle, no investigation, ...

Nothing.

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No shell, no circle, no investigation, ... Nothing.
Moreover, the whole picture is a collection of pieces that will or will not fit together.

The "No shell proof" is supporting and from the other side is supported by the other proofs.

Finally, only the whole explanation in Paris2015.pdf sounds.
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Moreover, the whole picture is a collection of pieces that will or will not fit together.

The "No shell proof" is supporting and from the other side is supported by the other proofs.

Finally, only the whole explanation in Paris2015.pdf sounds.
Well, the real investigators, the ones who know what they are doing and are accountable weren't producing anything to convince you. If you aren't satisfied, what does it matter? The French Gendarmes can proceed as though you don't exists and it costs them nothing. I doubt any actual French gendarmes even know you exist.
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Well, the real investigators, the ones who know what they are doing and are accountable weren't producing anything to convince you. If you aren't satisfied, what does it matter? The French Gendarmes can proceed as though you don't exists and it costs them nothing. I doubt any actual French gendarmes even know you exist.
Columbo many times heard such underestimating
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The files sharing problem:

Imagine that you would like to share such files (10MB and 500MB).

Which way you would choose?
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Columbo many times heard such underestimating
Columbo was fictional.

You do know that?
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Send it to BBC or someone like that. They will make TLDR version, for me.
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Columbo many times heard such underestimating
Columbo was a TV show and what he did was very different from what investigators do to actually solve crimes.
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Columbo was fictional.

You do know that?
I do.

The point could be that, well, the French policemen do what they want, but you maybe are looking for reasons / justification how to deny the False flag event. You may be planning (if possible) not to read the evidences. Strange.

Keep in mind that this will stay / remain with you forever. Have a nice day.

BTW, you can enjoy a feeling of superiority over someone not being able to perform investigation according well known principles.
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Send it to BBC or someone like that. They will make TLDR version, for me.
You must wait. One day you will see a movie with it
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Columbo was a TV show and what he did was very different from what investigators do to actually solve crimes.
I know.
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I think it's more than possible to not read your stuff.

But you are correct, possibly the one and only time in this whole thread.
I have no plans whatsoever to read your stuff.
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It's the three exlamation marks after every line that really make it clear how serious this is!!!
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Ps. It's crackpot theory.
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I know.
I doubt that very much. That is assuming you aren't planning to plant a virus and steal from me
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Lopesito: is this report your original work?
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Lopesito: is this report your original work?
Yes.
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It's the three exlamation marks after every line that really make it clear how serious this is!!!
The exclamations in "prof!!!" was a method for being able to keep the proofs in the text in agreement with the summary of the proofs in the summary.

And because the next version of the text is being prepared the editing marks "!!!" are still in use
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Yes.
Excellent. What language was it orginally written in?
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Ps. It's crackpot theory.
I know that, finally, you will read the Report as carefully as my posts
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