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Old Today, 02:36 PM   #3481
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Just returning from Orlando and Doral (Miami), Florida, and heading to the Oval Office, where I will present the great Economist, Dr. Arthur Laffer, with the Presidential Medal of Freedom.
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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop View Post
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Just returning from Orlando and Doral (Miami), Florida, and heading to the Oval Office, where I will present the great Economist, Dr. Arthur Laffer, with the Presidential Medal of Freedom.
Well, of course he is! Laffer blamed the 2008 recession on Obama:
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ď[i]f youíll remember, coming into the election in 2008, when Obama started rising in the polls and doing well in the polls, the stock market crashed. And the stock market tells you what will be, not what has been. The stock market looks forward.

ďAnd if they see an Obama coming into office, theyíll crash, and thatís what led to the Great Recession.Ē
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-s...ecession-obama

What a tool.
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Originally Posted by Aridas View Post
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Sharia court orders jail for rape victim unless kids handed to rapist. Wait...I meant Alabama.

Serial Rapist = got off scot-free despite irrefutable evidence, looks like, but even if he hadn't...
Victim = Facing jail time for any refusal to work with the serial rapist/attempt to deny visitation.

Horrific.

It isn't "Think of the children". It's 'Think of the children's child-molesting, rapist daddy.'

No surprise that makes sense to modern conservatives.
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Originally Posted by Ladewig View Post
I canít find a transcript of President Trumpís Orlando speech on the White House website. Am I simply technologically illiterate or is it not there?
I don't think a campaign speech would be posted to the White House website.
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Originally Posted by Minoosh View Post
I don't think a campaign speech would be posted to the White House website.
That is loser Democrat thinking.
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Originally Posted by Trebuchet View Post
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One size doesn’t fit all - I support West Virginia Schools. Keep up the great work, @WVGovernor Big Jim Justice - I am with you!

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Just had a great conversation with @realDonaldTrump. We talked about our good public schools in WV and how he totally supports my plan for WV public schools. The President and I are bound at the hip, and he has done remarkable work that has been tremendously beneficial for WV!
44 out of 50, according to this article.


When I was going to public school there they were teaching us about logarithms and using the lessons to show us how to build our own slide rules ... in sixth grade. The other years were comparable. (You could take Latin as an elective in eighth grade.)

Apparently they've lost a lot of ground.
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Old Today, 03:38 PM   #3487
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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop View Post
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One size doesnít fit all - I support West Virginia Schools. Keep up the great work, @WVGovernor Big Jim Justice - I am with you!

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Just had a great conversation with @realDonaldTrump. We talked about our good public schools in WV and how he totally supports my plan for WV public schools. The President and I are bound at the hip, and he has done remarkable work that has been tremendously beneficial for WV!
WV ranks fourth from the bottom in national public school rankings. Keep up the great work, WV!
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I am afraid we are in for four more years of Trump, given the tone of contempt for the political center we see coming from the Democrats.
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Originally Posted by Stacyhs View Post
WV ranks fourth from the bottom in national public school rankings. Keep up the great work, WV!
https://www.edweek.org/ew/collection...cess-2019.html
They are aiming for 50th place, that obviously being the best position.
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Originally Posted by Ladewig View Post
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Don't be surprised if Trump gives them money to build a huge neon "TRUMP Heights" sign.
Trump give money?!
[coughing, sputtering, choking]

Iíd be less surprised if he held a press conference and announced that all his financial records would be available to Congress immediately.

Nothing there about it being his own money.
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I am afraid we are in for four more years of Trump, given the tone of contempt for the political center we see coming from the Democrats.
Bernie will be great.
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Originally Posted by ponderingturtle View Post
Why would that be different from him cheating on his wife with a porn star days after his son was born? Try something that would actually hurt his popularity not something else they would ignore.

I have reached the point where I almost literally can't even imagine what that would be.

Oddly, I feel a little bit reassured by that.
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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop View Post
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Acting Secretary of Defense Patrick Shanahan, who has done a wonderful job, has decided not to go forward with his confirmation process so that he can devote more time to his family....

<snip>

There's a certain amount of irony potential in that statement.

Considering the circumstances, that is.
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I have reached the point where I almost literally can't even imagine what that would be.
Embracing black, Latinx, and/or LGBT people. And making it a serious effort, like mandating that doctors and businesses cannot discriminate against the transgendered community, or taking firm steps against police brutality.

Seems obvious to me.
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Congratulations to President Lopez Obrador — Mexico voted to ratify the USMCA today by a huge margin. Time for Congress to do the same here!
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I am afraid we are in for four more years of Trump, given the tone of contempt for the political center we see coming from the Democrats.
A wee while back, I was inclined to agree with you, and said the Dems needed to occupy the centre before pushing left.

A little time has changed my mind - especially given the centre now being far right of where it was - and I think the only way forward worth pursuing is left of centre.

Four years of a fascist might be countered by eight years of social democracy in a way that time chasing the centre won't be.

In a world shifting right, maybe the best answer is to kick it left.
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Bernie will be great.
Bernie will lose. A lot of voters will just stay home if it comes between Bernie and Donald.
I think that some "Progressives" are living in as much of a fantasy land as the Trump supporters.
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A wee while back, I was inclined to agree with you, and said the Dems needed to occupy the centre before pushing left.

A little time has changed my mind - especially given the centre now being far right of where it was - and I think the only way forward worth pursuing is left of centre.

Four years of a fascist might be countered by eight years of social democracy in a way that time chasing the centre won't be.

In a world shifting right, maybe the best answer is to kick it left.
SOrry, but as long as you have been posting here you have been well left of center.
And the whole idea of using one extreme to try to balance another has never turns out very well.
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Bernie will lose. A lot of voters will just stay home if it comes between Bernie and Donald.
I think that some "Progressives" are living in as much of a fantasy land as the Trump supporters.
The evils of socialism versus the Trump kleptocracy. Itís a tough call.
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Originally Posted by dudalb View Post
SOrry, but as long as you have been posting here you have been well left of center.
And the whole idea of using one extreme to try to balance another has never turns out very well.
Because universal healthcare, living minimum wages, quality education for all, holding corporations accountable and pulling back on the obscene wealth divide is radical.
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Bernie will lose. A lot of voters will just stay home if it comes between Bernie and Donald.
I think that some "Progressives" are living in as much of a fantasy land as the Trump supporters.
I'd vote for Bernie before Trump (hell, I'd vote for the dead Bernie from "Weekend at Bernie's") but he is way down my list of preferred candidates.
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Because universal healthcare, living minimum wages, quality education for all, holding corporations accountable and pulling back on the obscene wealth divide is radical.
Question is how do you thwse things, and I think a approach that basically does not like private businesses very much and seems to regard success as a crime is never going to sell in the US. His whole "a thing called capitalism got in the way" comment turned me off to no end.
I strongly support UHC, but am skeptical about the other four as giving way too much power to the government then I would like to see.

Yes, I am strongly opposed to radicalism on both sides of the political spectrum and refuse to believe the only choices are between two different but both bad ideas.
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The evils of socialism versus the Trump kleptocracy. Itís a tough call.
Yeah, Hard line government controls everything Socialism has been such a huge success wherever it has been tried.
I just don't like extremes, and thing the idea that the only way to fix one extreme is to go to another has generally proven disasterous.And I a think, outside a few of the most"progressive" districts in the country, Amercans, though they might want specific things like UHC, are not ready to go the Social Democracy route. And a lot of what Bernie advocates goes a lot further then the European Social Deomcracies want.
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I'd vote for Bernie before Trump (hell, I'd vote for the dead Bernie from "Weekend at Bernie's") but he is way down my list of preferred candidates.
It's not so much his specific policies...though I would like to know who is going to pay for them....but that Bernie obvilously has real issues with the mere idea of Private Enterprise that concerns me.
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Originally Posted by dudalb View Post
Question is how do you thwse things, and I think a approach that basically does not like private businesses very much and seems to regard success as a crime is never going to sell in the US. His whole "a thing called capitalism got in the way" comment turned me off to no end.
I strongly support UHC, but am skeptical about the other four as giving way too much power to the government then I would like to see.

Yes, I am strongly opposed to radicalism on both sides of the political spectrum and refuse to believe the only choices are between two different but both bad ideas.
That is a disingenuous framing.
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Yeah, Hard line government controls everything Socialism has been such a huge success wherever it has been tried.
I just don't like extremes, and thing the idea that the only way to fix one extreme is to go to another has generally proven disasterous.And I a think, outside a few of the most"progressive" districts in the country, Amercans, though they might want specific things like UHC, are not ready to go the Social Democracy route. And a lot of what Bernie advocates goes a lot further then the European Social Deomcracies want.
The idea that America would prefer another four years of dumb, chaotic, self interest, and refugee concentration camps over genuine efforts to improve the lives of ordinary citizens at some cost to the uberwealthy and controlling corporations is hard to understand.

You are probably right. America is ******.
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The idea that America would prefer another four years of dumb, chaotic, self interest over genuine efforts to improve the lives of ordinary citizens at some cost to the uberwealthy and controlling corporations is hard to understand.

You are probably right. America is ******.
and the open contempt that lot of progressives have for the American people for not being as far to the left as they would like is also playing right into's Trump's hands.
Give the American people a reasonable alternative to Trump's idiocy and they will take it. Give them a choice of extremes, many will sit it out.
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and the open contempt that lot of progressives have for the American people for not being as far to the left as they would like is also playing right into's Trump's hands.
Give the American people a reasonable alternative to Trump's idiocy and they will take it. Give them a choice of extremes, many will sit it out.
Bernie is offering reasonable alternatives that are framed as extreme. Look at the way Obamaís health care plan were framed by lies. Republicans will continue to lie and push the idols of capitalism which the masses will continue to buy against their own interests. The contempt from the left is as understandable as Trump supporters reactions to it.
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and the open contempt that lot of progressives have for the American people for not being as far to the left as they would like is also playing right into's Trump's hands.
Give the American people a reasonable alternative to Trump's idiocy and they will take it. Give them a choice of extremes, many will sit it out.
I'd agree with that. This country has divided into extremes and neither will work alone. What we need is moderation...a centrist who can give something to both sides. Extremists from either side will NOT work with others. Compromise, people, compromise.
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I'd agree with that. This country has divided into extremes and neither will work alone. What we need is moderation...a centrist who can give something to both sides. Extremists from either side will NOT work with others. Compromise, people, compromise.
And more importantly, someone who doesn’t plan to upset the rorts gravy train for the obscenely wealthy or rein in the political power of corporations, hold them accountable or make them cut into profits with fair wages will get the all important backing of these same powerful people. The media can keep framing fair deals in the interests of ordinary folk as extreme. Just as with health care. I mean a lot of powerful people would stand to lose a lot of money if you fixed that mess. Extreme is the scare framing for any efforts to take care of the rigged economy.
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I'd agree with that. This country has divided into extremes and neither will work alone. What we need is moderation...a centrist who can give something to both sides. Extremists from either side will NOT work with others. Compromise, people, compromise.
It can't happen though, Obama was centrist as they come but that didn't stop any Republican from refusing to work with the radical leftist. He's still thought of as that commie muslim kenyan by the Alex Jones crowd.
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It can't happen though, Obama was centrist as they come but that didn't stop any Republican from refusing to work with the radical leftist. He's still thought of as that commie muslim kenyan by the Alex Jones crowd.
It can happen. The Alex Jones crowd is hopeless but the GOP in Congress may be willing to be more sensible once the threat of Trump is gone and they've seen the country tire of him. Going extreme far left is not the answer.
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It can happen. The Alex Jones crowd is hopeless but the GOP in Congress may be willing to be more sensible once the threat of Trump is gone and they've seen the country tire of him. Going extreme far left is not the answer.
What are some real policy examples of this category for you?
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